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RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - MagikHorse - Apr. 17, 2022
(Apr. 17, 2022 4:15 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote:(Apr. 17, 2022 3:06 AM)WTrsal Wrote: Fusion SynchromeWiki: Salamander is bad Warrior Wheel.
Orlando FL
4/16/22
CosmoDragon 1st
Gargoyle Dragooon DF105 W2D
Gryph Salamander D125 EWD
Pegasus Bahamoote GB145 LRF
DracoBlader09 2nd
Leviathan Leviathan T125WD
NaBlade 3rd
Meteo LDrago 145 WD
Phantom Susanow 90 WF
Basalt Nemesis B: D
Lots of new faces today, I love the growth that the FL Metal Fight community is getting! Shout out to Nablade's Phantom combo that managed to tornado stall in the burst standard stadium very very well!
Salamander wheel here: *Bowser Mario 64 laugh*
I have no clue why the wiki disses Salamander like that. Sure, it's not the most impressive warrior wheel, but on the same front it's not that terrible either. Just suffers a bit from "Jack of all trades" syndrome.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Virtuous Circle - Apr. 24, 2022
Do You Miss GT?
BGT Format
La Mirada, California. April 23rd 2022
1st Shindog
LC Perfect Phoenix Ignition'
Master Spriggan Hybrid
Heaven Achilles Hasbro Wheel Drift Goku
Imperial Dragon2 0 Expand Destroy' (Deck format only)
Zwei Diabolos 10 Reach Xtreme' (Deck format only)
2nd handsome blader
Imperial Dragon2 Sting Destroy'
Naked Diabolos Hasbro Wheel Zn'+Z
Tact Longinus Ignition' Goku
Master Diabolos Around Bearing
3rd t_rex blader
Naked Diabolos Hasbro wheel Zn'+Z
Tact Longinus Ignition' Goku
Master Diabolos Around Bearing
Heaven Dragon2 Around Drift Goku (Deck format only)
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - ZephyrDraco - Apr. 24, 2022
Blader's Kingdom: South #2
BST 3 on 3 Format
The Woodlands, Texas - 4/24/22
1st Place: Blader union
-Guilty Fafnir Nexus+S Xtreme' 3
-Vanish Bahamut Tapered Bearing 10
-Dynamite (F Gear) Perseus Over High Xtend+' 2
-Rage Helios II Xtreme' 3A (Deck Format Finals Only)
2nd Place: USN
-Dynamite (F Gear) Belial II Tapered Bearing 0
-Roar Fafnir Giga Drift 10 (shoutout to USN, I've never seen such amazing control of Drift)
-Master Bahamut Wheel Zone'+Z
3rd Place: UltraBlazer
-Lord Spriggan 00Wall Rise
-Judgment Dragon Blitz Xtreme' Retsu (Shoutout to UltraBlazer, he took me out hard in quarters with this one)
-Master Diabolos Wheel Xtend+
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Whiskeytango - Apr. 25, 2022
(Apr. 24, 2022 11:57 PM)ZephyrDraco Wrote: Blader's Kingdom: South #2
BST 3 on 3 Format
The Woodlands, Texas - 4/24/22
1st Place: Blader union
-Guilty Fafnir Nexus+S Xtreme' 3
-Vanish Bahamut Tapered Bearing 10
-Dynamite (F Gear) Perseus Over High Xtend+' 2
-Rage Helios II Xtreme' 3A (Deck Format Finals Only)
2nd Place: USN
-Dynamite (F Gear) Belial II Tapered Bearing 0
-Roar Fafnir Giga Drift 10 (shoutout to USN, I've never seen such amazing control of Drift)
-Master Bahamut Wheel Zone'+Z
3rd Place: UltraBlazer
-Lord Spriggan 00Wall Rise
-Judgment Dragon Blitz Xtreme' Retsu (Shoutout to UltraBlazer, he took me out hard in quarters with this one)
-Master Diabolos Wheel Xtend+
Wild to see so many old layers placing in standard. Well done!
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - CrisisCrusher07 - Apr. 25, 2022
Winning Combos: Mike Nightwing's Blader's Kingdom 7! (5-on-5 Experimental Format)
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JCMakeEmBurst 1st Place:
Devil Belial 2 (F Gear) Tapered Bearing' -9
Rage Helios 2 (MCC) Xtreme' 3A
Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+'-0
Master Spriggan 0 Expand Drift
World Spriggan Giga Mobius 1S
geetster99 2nd Place:
Dynamite Belial 2 (F Gear) Tapered Bearihng'-3
Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+'-0
World Diabolos Giga Drift 1S
Astral Perseus Legacy Never -10
Guilty Fafnir Karma Destroy' -6
CrisisCrusher07 3rd Place:
Dynamite Perseus (F Gear) Tapered Bearihng'-9
Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+'-0
World Diabolos Giga Drift 1S
Astral Belial 2 Legacy Never -2
Guilty Fafnir Karma Venture (V Gear) -6
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - froztz - Apr. 25, 2022
Rise of GT: Zwei
Waxhaw, NC- 23 April 2022
Burst GT Format
Winning Combos:
1st arka.paul
Zwei Diabolos Sting Jolt'
Imperial Hydra 0 Expand High Xtend+'
Master Bahamut Blitz Metall Drift
2nd Fire blader07
Cosmo Achilles 00 Cross Xtend+ Goku
Master Bahamut Around Metal Drift (Deck Format Finals Only
Heaven Dragon Sting Drift Sou (Deck Format Finals Only)
3rd Breaker Bahamut
Imperial Dragon 2 Blitz Xtreme'
Lord Longinus Around Bearing' (Deck Format Finals Only)
Zwei Diabolos 7 Under Quick' (Deck Format Finals Only)
Thanks to everyone for coming out.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - p0l1w4g06 - Apr. 26, 2022
(Apr. 25, 2022 4:02 PM)froztz Wrote: Rise of GT: ZweiUmm, why use Sou on a combo and not Zan/Sen? Isn't Sou being the lightest non-Gen weight an issue?
Waxhaw, NC- 23 April 2022
Burst GT Format
Winning Combos:
1st arka.paul
Zwei Diabolos Sting Jolt'
Imperial Hydra 0 Expand High Xtend+'
Master Bahamut Blitz Metall Drift
2nd Fire blader07
Cosmo Achilles 00 Cross Xtend+ Goku
Master Bahamut Around Metal Drift (Deck Format Finals Only
Heaven Dragon Sting Drift Sou (Deck Format Finals Only)
3rd Breaker Bahamut
Imperial Dragon 2 Blitz Xtreme'
Lord Longinus Around Bearing' (Deck Format Finals Only)
Zwei Diabolos 7 Under Quick' (Deck Format Finals Only)
Thanks to everyone for coming out.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Dan - Apr. 26, 2022
CURSE GLIDES TOWARDS JUDGEMENT DAY - 3/24/22
Toronto, ON, Canada - Burst GT Experimental Format - Unranked (First Stage 1on1, Final Stage WBO Deck)
1st: Kei
Curse Solomon (Metal Chip Core) Vanguard Zone’+Z 1S
Master Diabolos Wheel (Hasbro) Xtend+
Tact Longinus Hybrid Goku
Naked Diabolos Paradox Drift Goku
Imperial Achilles Vanguard Rise (Deck Format Finals Only)
Imperial Achilles Vanguard Xtreme’ (Deck Format Finals Only)
2nd: henwooja1
Heaven Dragon 2 Around Drift Zan
Perfect Phoenix (Layer Chip) Outer Volcanic'
Turbo Spryzen S4 10Lift Bearing (Hasbro)
Master Spriggan Wheel (Hasbro) Xtend+
Imperial Achilles 0Expand Destroy'
Judgement Diabolos Blitz Quick' (Deck Format Finals Only)
3rd: Dan
Master Spriggan Wheel (Hasbro) Xtend+
Tact Longinus 10Wall Drift Sen
Curse Lucifer2 00Expand Zone'+Z (Hasbro) 1S
Judgement Odin Blitz Xtreme' Goku (Deck Format Finals Only)
4th: Ghost_Ninja
Overall it was a very fun event. I expected a bunch of more people to show up but we saw many people drop out the morning-of, so we were actually better equipped than was necessary. Perhaps a mixture of timing and the fact it isn't ranked. Still, a good event and fair enough turnout for BGT.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - th!nk - Apr. 26, 2022
(Apr. 26, 2022 4:09 AM)Dan Wrote: CURSE GLIDES TOWARDS JUDGEMENT DAY - 3/24/22
Toronto, ON, Canada - Burst GT Experimental Format - Unranked (First Stage 1on1, Final Stage WBO Deck)
1st: Kei
Curse Solomon (Metal Chip Core) Vanguard Zone’+Z 1S
Master Diabolos Wheel (Hasbro) Xtend+
Tact Longinus Hybrid Goku
Naked Diabolos Paradox Drift Goku
Imperial Achilles Vanguard Rise (Deck Format Finals Only)
Imperial Achilles Vanguard Xtreme’ (Deck Format Finals Only)
2nd: henwooja1
Heaven Dragon 2 Around Drift Zan
Perfect Phoenix (Layer Chip) Outer Volcanic'
Turbo Spryzen S4 10Lift Bearing (Hasbro)
Master Spriggan Wheel (Hasbro) Xtend+
Imperial Achilles 0Expand Destroy'
Judgement Diabolos Blitz Quick' (Deck Format Finals Only)
3rd: Dan
Master Spriggan Wheel (Hasbro) Xtend+
Tact Longinus 10Wall Drift Sen
Curse Lucifer2 00Expand Zone'+Z (Hasbro) 1S
Judgement Odin Blitz Xtreme' Goku (Deck Format Finals Only)
4th: Ghost_Ninja
Overall it was a very fun event. I expected a bunch of more people to show up but we saw many people drop out the morning-of, so we were actually better equipped than was necessary. Perhaps a mixture of timing and the fact it isn't ranked. Still, a good event and fair enough turnout for BGT.
Shame about the drops but thanks for hosting, glad you got the turnout needed.
I'm assuming Vanguard is being used for that horrid janky bending thing? Still think that's very weird, not a fan personally. Nice to see a bit more attack tho. 😅
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - TheRogueBlader - Apr. 26, 2022
(Apr. 26, 2022 5:58 AM)th!nk Wrote:What janky bendy thing do you mean? I see vanguard on three combos so I dunno which one you are referring to that bends.(Apr. 26, 2022 4:09 AM)Dan Wrote: CURSE GLIDES TOWARDS JUDGEMENT DAY - 3/24/22
Toronto, ON, Canada - Burst GT Experimental Format - Unranked (First Stage 1on1, Final Stage WBO Deck)
1st: Kei
Curse Solomon (Metal Chip Core) Vanguard Zone’+Z 1S
Master Diabolos Wheel (Hasbro) Xtend+
Tact Longinus Hybrid Goku
Naked Diabolos Paradox Drift Goku
Imperial Achilles Vanguard Rise (Deck Format Finals Only)
Imperial Achilles Vanguard Xtreme’ (Deck Format Finals Only)
2nd: henwooja1
Heaven Dragon 2 Around Drift Zan
Perfect Phoenix (Layer Chip) Outer Volcanic'
Turbo Spryzen S4 10Lift Bearing (Hasbro)
Master Spriggan Wheel (Hasbro) Xtend+
Imperial Achilles 0Expand Destroy'
Judgement Diabolos Blitz Quick' (Deck Format Finals Only)
3rd: Dan
Master Spriggan Wheel (Hasbro) Xtend+
Tact Longinus 10Wall Drift Sen
Curse Lucifer2 00Expand Zone'+Z (Hasbro) 1S
Judgement Odin Blitz Xtreme' Goku (Deck Format Finals Only)
4th: Ghost_Ninja
Overall it was a very fun event. I expected a bunch of more people to show up but we saw many people drop out the morning-of, so we were actually better equipped than was necessary. Perhaps a mixture of timing and the fact it isn't ranked. Still, a good event and fair enough turnout for BGT.
I'm assuming Vanguard is being used for that horrid janky bending thing? Still think that's very weird, not a fan personally.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - th!nk - Apr. 26, 2022
You can bend the plastic tabs on the inner ring of Vanguard downward? I think it is? To improve burst resistance pretty significantly. It was part of why it was used with Br a lot in the wbba. It feels very wrong to me personally, but it's not really high on my list of things to bicker about right now 😅
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - ScaryPhantoms - Apr. 27, 2022
What do you think about Cosmo Achilles.Vanguard.Bearing Ten
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - TheRogueBlader - Apr. 27, 2022
(Apr. 26, 2022 3:56 PM)th!nk Wrote: You can bend the plastic tabs on the inner ring of Vanguard downward? I think it is? To improve burst resistance pretty significantly. It was part of why it was used with Br a lot in the wbba. It feels very wrong to me personally, but it's not really high on my list of things to bicker about right now 😅Oh! Haha, I own vanguard and has used it quite a bit but I never realized you could do that. I’ll try that out. Funny story also, I didn’t know convert could do the weight change thing until like 7 months after I owned it and it took me 1 year to realize how to actually do the gimmick.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - th!nk - Apr. 27, 2022
(Apr. 27, 2022 12:48 AM)ScaryPhantoms Wrote: What do you think about Cosmo Achilles.Vanguard.Bearing Ten
Hi ScaryPhantoms, this thread is for posting combinations which have won at WBO Organized Play Events specifically, not combinations you feel may work. For what it's worth, that combination would be usable in GT, though probably suffer a lot due to Cosmo really needing to be above things to avoid contact with its more recoily contact points, and Br not being particularly tall.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Zektor - May. 08, 2022
Winning combinations for Lui's Rules 5-7-22. This was an experimental unranked tournament. In each round a die was rolled and one of 6 rules were applied to all matches in that round.
1st Akajumo
Roar Bahamut Giga Drift 10 (final stage)
Dynamite Valkyrie F-gear Over Metal Xtreme' 6 (both)
Guilty Longinus Nexus+s (fixed) Xtreme' 2 (both)
2nd Zektor
Vanish Lonignus Over Bearing' 9 (both)
Devil Perseus F-gear Giga Metal Drift 0 (final stage)
Roar Bahamut Nexus+s (fixed) Mobius 2 (final stage)
Guilty Bahamut Nexus+S (fixed) Bullet 2 (first stage)
Guilty Bahamut Nexus+S (fixed) Metal Xtreme' 2 (first stage)
3rd Plot Armor
Guilty Longinus Nexus+s (fixed) Xtreme' 2 (both)
Dynamite Perseus F-gear Giga Metal Drift 3 (both)
Vanish Bahmut Over Zone'+Z 9 (both)
4th Surge Master
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Trsal - May. 08, 2022
Dynamite on Metal Extreme is quite the spice, I respect it
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Whiskeytango - May. 08, 2022
(May. 08, 2022 1:09 AM)Zektor Wrote: Winning combinations for Lui's Rules 5-7-22. This was an experimental unranked tournament. In each round a die was rolled and one of 6 rules were applied to all matches in that round.
1st Akajumo
Roar Bahamut Giga Drift 10 (final stage)
Dynamite Valkyrie F-gear Over Metal Xtreme' 6 (both)
Guilty Longinus Nexus+s (fixed) Xtreme' 2 (both)
2nd Zektor
Vanish Lonignus Over Bearing' 9 (both)
Devil Perseus F-gear Giga Metal Drift 0 (final stage)
Roar Bahamut Nexus+s (fixed) Mobius 2 (final stage)
Guilty Bahamut Nexus+S (fixed) Bullet 2 (first stage)
Guilty Bahamut Nexus+S (fixed) Metal Xtreme' 2 (first stage)
3rd Plot Armor
Guilty Longinus Nexus+s (fixed) Xtreme' 2 (both)
Dynamite Perseus F-gear Giga Metal Drift 3 (both)
Vanish Bahmut Over Zone'+Z 9 (both)
4th SurgeMaster
We’re all gonna want to hear about the guilty Bullet too 😳
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Zektor - May. 08, 2022
Whiskeytango It was for the round where the bey that stops spinning first wins. It was a fun combo for sure.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Akajumo - May. 08, 2022
(May. 08, 2022 1:16 AM)Trsal Wrote: Dynamite on Metal Extreme is quite the spice, I respect it
Most of the top players in Seattle are stamina type enthusiasts, I'm just doing my part to make sure the tournament ends on time 🤣
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - UnseenBurst - May. 08, 2022
(May. 08, 2022 10:48 PM)Akajumo Wrote:(May. 08, 2022 1:16 AM)Trsal Wrote: Dynamite on Metal Extreme is quite the spice, I respect it
Most of the top players in Seattle are stamina type enthusiasts, I'm just doing my part to make sure the tournament ends on time 🤣
That's unbelievably true. The one person that used an Attack Combo against me once really caught me off guard so I tilted my Launcher so the Bey would move in a different direction so I wouldn't get immediately KO'd on. I got home around 8 from Spinless in Seattle, that was hilarious lol.
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Cscramon - May. 15, 2022
Battle At the Entertainment District
May 14, 2022
Winning Combos:
Trsal 1st Perseus Dynamite (F Gear) -3 Oval High xtend+'
Trsal 1st Bahamut Vanish - 0 Giga Bearing
Trsal 1st Valkery Prominance -10 Giga Zone'+Z
Trsal 1st Lightning L-Drago Vangard Metal Xtreme
NateSlug 2nd Perseus Dynamite (F Gear) -10 Giga Drift (high mode)
Nateslug 2nd Bahamut Guilty - 2 Nexus + S xtreme'
Nateslug 2nd Longinus Vanish - 0 Over High xtend+'
JayAshindra 3rd Longinus Vanish - 0 Over High xtend+' (high )
JayAshindra 3rd Fafnir Guilty - 2 Nexus + S Quatro
JayAshindra 3rd Perseus Devil (F Gear) - 10 Giga Drift Metal (High)
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - th!nk - May. 15, 2022
(May. 15, 2022 3:16 AM)Cscramon Wrote: Battle At the Entertainment District
May 14, 2022
Winning Combos:
Trsal 1st Perseus Dynamite (F Gear) -3 Oval High xtend+'
Trsal 1st Bahamut Vanish - 0 Giga Bearing
Trsal 1st Valkery Prominance -10 Giga Zone'+Z
Trsal 1st Lightning L-Drago Vangard Metal Xtreme
NateSlug 2nd Perseus Dynamite (F Gear) -10 Giga Drift (high mode)
Nateslug 2nd Bahamut Guilty - 2 Nexus + S xtreme'
Nateslug 2nd Longinus Vanish - 0 Over High xtend+'
JayAshindra 3rd Longinus Vanish - 0 Over High xtend+' (high )
JayAshindra 3rd Fafnir Guilty - 2 Nexus + S Quatro
JayAshindra 3rd Perseus Devil (F Gear) - 10 Giga Drift Metal (High)
Trsal you ABSOLUTE MAD LAD AHAHAHA
![[Image: lqcgqjI.png]](https://i.imgur.com/lqcgqjI.png)
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Shindog - May. 15, 2022
Shin LA Burst Standard (DB stadium experimental event) 5-14-22
South Pasadena, California
USA
Mitchjett 1st
Perseus Dynamite Over Zone Dash+Z-9 (F gear)
Bahamut Roar Giga Metal Drift-0
Longinus Guilty Legacy Drift-2
Virtuous Circle 2nd
Perseus Dynamite Over Bearing Dash-2 (F gear)
Fafnir Vanish Giga Bearing-10
Longinus Roar Wheel Metal Drift-0
Bahamut Guilty Wheel Metal Universe-2 (Deck Match Type only)
Spriggan World Blitz Drift 1S (Deck Match Type only)
Longinus Roar Giga Bearing-0 (Deck Match Type only)
Perseus Dynamite Over High Xtend+ Dash (L and F gear) (Deck Match Type only)
Killerphantom 3rd
Bahamut Vanish Over Bearing Dash-0
Valkerie1 Dynamite Giga Zone Dash+Z-2
Helios Rage Venture 3A (V gear)
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - p0l1w4g06 - May. 15, 2022
(May. 15, 2022 4:45 AM)Shindog Wrote: Shin LA Burst Standard (DB stadium experimental event) 5-14-22Assuming the backwards sounding ones are High Mode? I'm sure TT said to say a Bey's in High Mode, replace the - with a plus.
South Pasadena, California
USA
Mitchjett 1st
Perseus Dynamite Over Zone Dash+Z-9 (F gear)
Bahamut Roar Giga Metal Drift-0
Longinus Guilty Legacy Drift-2
Virtuous Circle 2nd
Perseus Dynamite Over Bearing Dash-2 (F gear)
Fafnir Vanish Giga Bearing-10
Longinus Roar Wheel Metal Drift-0
Bahamut Guilty Wheel Metal Universe-2 (Deck Match Type only)
Spriggan World Blitz Drift 1S (Deck Match Type only)
Longinus Roar Giga Bearing-0 (Deck Match Type only)
Perseus Dynamite Over High Xtend+ Dash (L and F gear) (Deck Match Type only)
Killerphantom 3rd
Bahamut Vanish Over Bearing Dash-0
Valkerie1 Dynamite Giga Zone Dash+Z-2
Helios Rage Venture 3A (V gear)
E.g.Divine Belial Nexus Adventure-3->Divine Belial Nexus Adventure+3
RE: Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events - Shindog - May. 15, 2022
(May. 15, 2022 5:09 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote:(May. 15, 2022 4:45 AM)Shindog Wrote: Shin LA Burst Standard (DB stadium experimental event) 5-14-22Assuming the backwards sounding ones are High Mode? I'm sure TT said to say a Bey's in High Mode, replace the - with a plus.
South Pasadena, California
USA
Mitchjett 1st
Perseus Dynamite Over Zone Dash+Z-9 (F gear)
Bahamut Roar Giga Metal Drift-0
Longinus Guilty Legacy Drift-2
Virtuous Circle 2nd
Perseus Dynamite Over Bearing Dash-2 (F gear)
Fafnir Vanish Giga Bearing-10
Longinus Roar Wheel Metal Drift-0
Bahamut Guilty Wheel Metal Universe-2 (Deck Match Type only)
Spriggan World Blitz Drift 1S (Deck Match Type only)
Longinus Roar Giga Bearing-0 (Deck Match Type only)
Perseus Dynamite Over High Xtend+ Dash (L and F gear) (Deck Match Type only)
Killerphantom 3rd
Bahamut Vanish Over Bearing Dash-0
Valkerie1 Dynamite Giga Zone Dash+Z-2
Helios Rage Venture 3A (V gear)
E.g.Divine Belial Nexus Adventure-3->Divine Belial Nexus Adventure+3
Nope, WBO reporting does not require stating of high mode vs low mode. This is directly copied from how it is styled on the spreadsheet to be submitted. Also, ppl can change modes and I wouldn’t list them twice?