(Sep. 06, 2020  4:21 PM)LEOBBG Wrote: im scared for the end of beyblade but i think that they can keep it going... if burst continues for a few more years, we can possibly get a series with valt's kids... or we can get a spin-off of shu's POV. we can only hope right now but heres a main question, by the way burst is going who will be the next main character?

(Apr. 22, 2020  12:29 AM)jagzz0604 Wrote: i would want them personaly to return to metal

(Oct. 01, 2020  2:49 AM)Ali Baba Wrote: I really want beyblade to back to Zero G, it was so underrated, but it was the funniest and got the best customization, I really want an Ifrit(Ifraid) evolution.
By the way this is necroposting?

(Oct. 01, 2020  3:19 AM)SupaDav03 Wrote: Removing the ability to burst is like removing the 3-point line in the NBA. The game has progressed and it’s an import part to it’s evolution. It’s the great equalizer.

(Oct. 01, 2020  4:31 AM)MagikHorse Wrote:

(Oct. 01, 2020  3:19 AM)SupaDav03 Wrote: Removing the ability to burst is like removing the 3-point line in the NBA. The game has progressed and it’s an import part to it’s evolution. It’s the great equalizer.

Modern Burst beys very rarely ever burst at all, so how is that "equalizing" anything? The 3-point line is a way to reward long shots, but Bursting as a reward is already falling out of use.

As long as they can ensure that Attack is still powerful enough to see use without burst finishes, which is easily done through good designs, there's no problem at all with removing it as a mechanic for whatever comes next.

(Oct. 01, 2020  4:58 AM)SupaDav03 Wrote:

(Oct. 01, 2020  4:31 AM)MagikHorse Wrote: Modern Burst beys very rarely ever burst at all, so how is that "equalizing" anything? The 3-point line is a way to reward long shots, but Bursting as a reward is already falling out of use.

As long as they can ensure that Attack is still powerful enough to see use without burst finishes, which is easily done through good designs, there's no problem at all with removing it as a mechanic for whatever comes next.

Maybe the most modern meta combos hardly burst sure, but PLENTY of modern beys burst. It’s not TT’s fault everyone uses the same 5 combos. 

As I stated before, and I stand by it, going from 3 ways to win back to 2 is regression. 

And like a HR in baseball, a burst is still the most exciting thing in a beyblade match. 

And as you so eloquently stated in the RBV 22 thread “it doesn’t have to be meta to be fun”. So in the realm of fun, bursts happen often enough.

(Oct. 01, 2020  6:06 AM)RoscoePColeslaw Wrote: We'll know when Burst is ending by Hasbro making Burst Beywarriors

(Oct. 01, 2020  4:58 AM)SupaDav03 Wrote: Maybe the most modern meta combos hardly burst sure, but PLENTY of modern beys burst. It’s not TT’s fault everyone uses the same 5 combos. 

As I stated before, and I stand by it, going from 3 ways to win back to 2 is regression. 

And like a HR in baseball, a burst is still the most exciting thing in a beyblade match. 

And as you so eloquently stated in the RBV 22 thread “it doesn’t have to be meta to be fun”. So in the realm of fun, bursts happen often enough.

(Oct. 01, 2020  7:59 AM)MagikHorse Wrote:

(Oct. 01, 2020  4:58 AM)SupaDav03 Wrote: Maybe the most modern meta combos hardly burst sure, but PLENTY of modern beys burst. It’s not TT’s fault everyone uses the same 5 combos. 

As I stated before, and I stand by it, going from 3 ways to win back to 2 is regression. 

And like a HR in baseball, a burst is still the most exciting thing in a beyblade match. 

And as you so eloquently stated in the RBV 22 thread “it doesn’t have to be meta to be fun”. So in the realm of fun, bursts happen often enough.

Every system begins by regressing down to basics anyways. "It's going backwards" isn't much of an argument when most systems start out with some small collection of flat, sharp, ball, and mixed attribute tips anyways with little complexity. They're gonna be basic anyways. No need to make them more complicated and take away from whatever the next line is about instead of letting its newer attributes make a name for itself.

Think of it this way, each generation has had one thing unique to it. For plastics it was basically the testing grounds to see what worked and what didn't, showcasing off their beasts as a major focus and served as a major point for bey design. HMS was all about its mixed plastic/metal construction and dual-spin everything. MFB was all about massive height variation and metal-on-metal fighting. Burst dropped all that metal and added in bursting. That is what sets it apart from the others.

I don't know what comes next, none of us here do, but to stick bursting on another line that isn't Burst feels completely and entirely wrong to me. At that point what makes Burst special? Burst didn't steal its major line-wide gimmick off of one of the others, so why should the next one steal from Burst? What about bursting makes it worth making this current line less unique? Why should bursting remain a mainstay for the series just for the sake of being able to claim an extra win condition? Is an extra win condition worth it at all? I say no, it's really not worth it, but things can still be taken from Burst like its simple twist-together assembly method that could easily be incorporated into another line.

To say bursts are the most exciting thing is also a gross overstatement, especially when the final match rides on a nail-bitingly close LAD finish or something gets slammed into a pocket like a bullet. I know one of the most exciting things I've seen recently was a recorded battle between Wombat and Ardmore Bladers that resulted in Zwei Fafnir 10Glaive Jolt' yeeting Balkesh B3 00Wall Bearing out of the top of the stadium and onto the playmat for 2 points, a very rare feat recorded live. I've heard flabbergasted shouting as King on Bearing lost 2 points to Garuda G3 on Sword-S by a pair of spin finishes in my ongoing 482 bey megatournament, streamed live on Discord and making people question of Garuda might actually win that matchup. Unless the burst is a major surprise somehow or a part decides to really fly they're really not as exciting as you're making them out to be, and it means you have to reassemble everything to continue which can be a hassle anyways. In the end it's the surprise that makes it exciting, not just the means which it's revealed.

Your sports references are also really missing the point altogether. Home runs don't exist because they're exciting, they exist because you need some sort of rule for what happens if the ball goes too far out to be retrieved and excitement is the byproduct. Basketball could technically work without a three-point line, but it only promotes close-up play and gives people little reason to make riskier shots from further away. Both home runs and 3 point shots are rewards for more difficult plays, and bursting doesn't relate to either at all in that light. It's not a reward as much as it is a byproduct of your choice, or sometimes even just sheer chance.

TLDR: Though it may be a regression to remove bursting for the next series I don't think that's a bad thing. I don't feel like bursting can continue on in the next series without depreciating what they've already done here and now, and it makes whatever is to come feel overshadowed by another proven gimmick. There's plenty of things that can be learned or adapted from Burst, but beyond that I want the next thing to shine in its own way, not just borrow something from its immediate predecessor.

(Oct. 01, 2020  6:06 AM)RoscoePColeslaw Wrote: We'll know when Burst is ending by Hasbro making Burst Beywarriors

(Oct. 01, 2020  5:00 PM)SupaDav03 Wrote: I’m sure if we polled users here on what’s more exiting: bursting an opponents bey or winning with a LAD OS, burst would win in a landslide. So your “gross overstatement” comment actually seems more like a gross overstatement, lol, but I digress.