(Aug. 14, 2019  11:47 AM)g2_ Wrote: Guys, don't forget he lost to the potential antagonist of the series. It's like Kyle losing to Phi, he gained a point which is pretty impressive.

(Jan. 03, 2020  11:06 AM)Limetka Wrote:

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While the battle was really well done and I like the gimmicks they pulled with the generate driver, next episode being Arthur vs Gwyn has to be the most unoriginal outcome ever.

Try imagining replacing these characters with their respective counterparts:

Delta >Aiga
Drum > Valt
Gwynn > Phi
Arhur > Hearts

And pretty much nothing changes from ChoZ.

Hearts/Arthur suddenly appears out of nowhere and takes the title of the strongest one in the series. Then he returns back to his HELL Gran/ HELL Tower and the main characters travel there to challenge him. There they battle some bladers that we have previously seen before, until they get to the final boss. Delta/Aiga is really into the dark resonance powers and fights Arthur/Hearts, but loses, his bey gets broken (Achilles gets broken like an episode later by Phi but the timeline is the same) and gets depressed. There Aiga/Delta travel back home and make a new beyblade. Meanwhile Valt/Drum defeats Hearts/Arthur. Then Delta/Aiga challenges Arthur/Hearts again with his new bey and wins. Then Arthur/Hearts fight the final villain Gwynn/Phi and they lose and Phi/Gwynn makes a new bey.


Hmmmm

(Jan. 03, 2020  11:06 AM)Limetka Wrote:

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While the battle was really well done and I like the gimmicks they pulled with the generate driver, next episode being Arthur vs Gwyn has to be the most unoriginal outcome ever.

Try imagining replacing these characters with their respective counterparts:

Delta >Aiga
Drum > Valt
Gwynn > Phi
Arhur > Hearts

And pretty much nothing changes from ChoZ.

Hearts/Arthur suddenly appears out of nowhere and takes the title of the strongest one in the series.  Then he returns back to his HELL Gran/ HELL Tower and the main characters travel there to challenge him. There they battle some bladers that we have previously seen before, until they get to the final boss. Delta/Aiga is really into the dark resonance powers and fights Arthur/Hearts,  but loses, his bey gets broken (Achilles gets broken like an episode later by Phi but the timeline is the same) and gets depressed. There Aiga/Delta travel back home and make a new beyblade. Meanwhile Valt/Drum defeats Hearts/Arthur. Then Delta/Aiga challenges Arthur/Hearts again with his new bey and wins. Then Arthur/Hearts fight the final villain Gwynn/Phi and they lose and Phi/Gwynn makes a new bey.


Hmmmm

(Jan. 03, 2020  3:40 PM)Dasmind Wrote:

(Jan. 03, 2020  11:06 AM)Limetka Wrote:

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While the battle was really well done and I like the gimmicks they pulled with the generate driver, next episode being Arthur vs Gwyn has to be the most unoriginal outcome ever.

Try imagining replacing these characters with their respective counterparts:

Delta >Aiga
Drum > Valt
Gwynn > Phi
Arhur > Hearts

And pretty much nothing changes from ChoZ.

Hearts/Arthur suddenly appears out of nowhere and takes the title of the strongest one in the series.  Then he returns back to his HELL Gran/ HELL Tower and the main characters travel there to challenge him. There they battle some bladers that we have previously seen before, until they get to the final boss. Delta/Aiga is really into the dark resonance powers and fights Arthur/Hearts,  but loses, his bey gets broken (Achilles gets broken like an episode later by Phi but the timeline is the same) and gets depressed. There Aiga/Delta travel back home and make a new beyblade. Meanwhile Valt/Drum defeats Hearts/Arthur. Then Delta/Aiga challenges Arthur/Hearts again with his new bey and wins. Then Arthur/Hearts fight the final villain Gwynn/Phi and they lose and Phi/Gwynn makes a new bey.


Hmmmm

Hearts is only a crazy man but has not evil thoughts 
Arthur has a dark bey. He thinks darkness is the strongest and think he is unbeatable and has evil thoughts. And did you know how he is a control freak and a disrespectful guy.
Gwynn is not a counterpart of Phi. He is smart and creates new beys and has be friend with Drum, since his plan failed.
Phi has their mix personalities. But not as disrespectful as Arthur, not as smart as Gwynn and has evil thoughts which his brother has not . 
By the way Delta did not want to accept Drum, so they actually not the same

(Jan. 03, 2020  11:06 AM)Limetka Wrote:

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While the battle was really well done and I like the gimmicks they pulled with the generate driver, next episode being Arthur vs Gwyn has to be the most unoriginal outcome ever.

Try imagining replacing these characters with their respective counterparts:

Delta >Aiga
Drum > Valt
Gwynn > Phi
Arhur > Hearts

And pretty much nothing changes from ChoZ.

Hearts/Arthur suddenly appears out of nowhere and takes the title of the strongest one in the series. Then he returns back to his HELL Gran/ HELL Tower and the main characters travel there to challenge him. There they battle some bladers that we have previously seen before, until they get to the final boss. Delta/Aiga is really into the dark resonance powers and fights Arthur/Hearts, but loses, his bey gets broken (Achilles gets broken like an episode later by Phi but the timeline is the same) and gets depressed. There Aiga/Delta travel back home and make a new beyblade. Meanwhile Valt/Drum defeats Hearts/Arthur. Then Delta/Aiga challenges Arthur/Hearts again with his new bey and wins. Then Arthur/Hearts fight the final villain Gwynn/Phi and they lose and Phi/Gwynn makes a new bey.


Hmmmm

(Jan. 03, 2020  8:36 PM)Jinbee Wrote: Wait wait wait... let me get this straight...

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Has anyone else noticed how much Gachi is just redoing Chouzetsu at this point?

Good lord, Gwynn vs Arthur is basically Phi vs Hearts, and BOTH are in Episode 41 in their seasons too. No doubt this'll be where Gwynn gets his upgrade and likely destroys Apocalypse. Oh, and Delta uses a red balance type just like Aiga does, so his breakage and later redemption when he rematches Arthur with an upgrade.

I am 100% on Limetka on this.

Let's not forget Blind is basically Kyle Hakim, he's a defense type user... has a bey Dread Bahamut from a Triple Booster Set, like Hazard Kerbeus, AND loses 2-0 against main character with an upgrade. in Episode 32 in a similar type of arc, just replace Dead Gran with HELL.

And Gwynn is a defense user like Phi AND has long silver hair too... huh...

Sure, not all ideas will be original, but this is too similar to Chouzetsu... and that was only a year ago.

(Jan. 03, 2020  8:36 PM)Jinbee Wrote: Wait wait wait... let me get this straight...

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Has anyone else noticed how much Gachi is just redoing Chouzetsu at this point?

Good lord, Gwynn vs Arthur is basically Phi vs Hearts, and BOTH are in Episode 41 in their seasons too. No doubt this'll be where Gwynn gets his upgrade and likely destroys Apocalypse. Oh, and Delta uses a red balance type just like Aiga does, so his breakage and later redemption when he rematches Arthur with an upgrade.

I am 100% on Limetka on this.

Let's not forget Blind is basically Kyle Hakim, he's a defense type user... has a bey Dread Bahamut from a Triple Booster Set, has a reused motif from a previous season with no connections to the original owners like Kensuke/Boa, like Hazard Kerbeus, AND loses 2-0 against main character with an upgrade. in Episode 32 in a similar type of arc, just replace Dead Gran with HELL.

And Gwynn is a defense user like Phi AND has long silver hair too... huh...

Sure, not all ideas will be original, but this is too similar to Chouzetsu... and that was only a year ago. Did they really think we wanted to see it twice? Considering I found Chouzetsu an average season, I can't say I like this.

(Jan. 03, 2020  8:36 PM)Jinbee Wrote: Wait wait wait... let me get this straight...

Spoiler (Click to View)

Has anyone else noticed how much Gachi is just redoing Chouzetsu at this point?

Good lord, Gwynn vs Arthur is basically Phi vs Hearts, and BOTH are in Episode 41 in their seasons too. No doubt this'll be where Gwynn gets his upgrade and likely destroys Apocalypse. Oh, and Delta uses a red balance type just like Aiga does, so his breakage and later redemption when he rematches Arthur with an upgrade.

I am 100% on Limetka on this.

Let's not forget Blind is basically Kyle Hakim, he's a defense type user... has a bey Dread Bahamut from a Triple Booster Set, has a reused motif from a previous season with no connections to the original owners like Kensuke/Boa, like Hazard Kerbeus, AND loses 2-0 against main character with an upgrade. in Episode 32 in a similar type of arc, just replace Dead Gran with HELL.

And Gwynn is a defense user like Phi AND has long silver hair too... huh...

Sure, not all ideas will be original, but this is too similar to Chouzetsu... and that was only a year ago. Did they really think we wanted to see it twice? Considering I found Chouzetsu an average season, I can't say I like this.

(Jan. 03, 2020  8:55 PM)g2_ Wrote:

(Jan. 03, 2020  8:36 PM)Jinbee Wrote: Wait wait wait... let me get this straight...

Spoiler (Click to View)

Has anyone else noticed how much Gachi is just redoing Chouzetsu at this point?

Good lord, Gwynn vs Arthur is basically Phi vs Hearts, and BOTH are in Episode 41 in their seasons too. No doubt this'll be where Gwynn gets his upgrade and likely destroys Apocalypse. Oh, and Delta uses a red balance type just like Aiga does, so his breakage and later redemption when he rematches Arthur with an upgrade.

I am 100% on Limetka on this.

Let's not forget Blind is basically Kyle Hakim, he's a defense type user... has a bey Dread Bahamut from a Triple Booster Set, has a reused motif from a previous season with no connections to the original owners like Kensuke/Boa, like Hazard Kerbeus, AND loses 2-0 against main character with an upgrade. in Episode 32 in a similar type of arc, just replace Dead Gran with HELL.

And Gwynn is a defense user like Phi AND has long silver hair too... huh...

Sure, not all ideas will be original, but this is too similar to Chouzetsu... and that was only a year ago. Did they really think we wanted to see it twice? Considering I found Chouzetsu an average season, I can't say I like this.

Yes and Imperial Dragon is simply Cho-Z Valkyrie. Master Diabolos is Cho-Z Achilles. Big Bag Genesis is Dead Phoenix.

(Jan. 03, 2020  9:40 PM)Legend Red Eye Wrote: Jinbee don't forget the previous arcs that are very reminiscent of Chouzetsu.

1st arc - BeyCarnival let's be honest that Valt in GT is basically Lui in Cho-Z. He disappears and never battles like over 40 episodes but I want him to battle more. Enough with that, the point was the winner of the BeyCarnival gets to battle Valt just like what the situation was in Longinus Cup. Seems familiar...hmm.

2nd arc - I don't know the name I forgot, but I think the point was whoever has the highest "points" wins and gets to battle Aiga aka the World Champion. In comparison to Battleship Cruise hmmm. The point was the winner gets to take on Valt in Cho-Z.  Already familiar.

Now that you and Limetka pointed out the Hell Arc similar to Dead Castle and all the bladers similar to last season.

I can for sure state indirectly that the final arc will be Gwyn vs Everyone in GT. By Everyone, I mean role models. Like Shu and Free's destruction, it might be Valt and Aiga's. Like you said. Yeah, I can definitely see that the finale will be Delta vs Drum resulting in Drum's victory and Delta sees how good Drum is.

Amane>Rantaro/Ranjiro
Lodin>Houi
Pot>Laban ish
Fumiya>Wakiya
Joe is original I don't see his character being a copy of previous burst series.
I mean Blind's character has Jack's traits yk Jack from Metal Fight. He has his traits different from Kyle.
Gwyn has his fusion of Naoiki, Evel and Phi.

Yup Apocalypse breaks next episode.

(Jan. 03, 2020  9:27 PM)Strider Xanthos Wrote:

(Jan. 03, 2020  8:55 PM)g2_ Wrote: Yes and Imperial Dragon is simply Cho-Z Valkyrie. Master Diabolos is Cho-Z Achilles. Big Bag Genesis is Dead Phoenix.

So what's Cho-Z Spriggan?
Also, why are we all suddenly surprised by this, there have been so many parallels to Burst 1, God, and Cho-Z in this season only halfway through

(Jan. 03, 2020  9:27 PM)Strider Xanthos Wrote:

(Jan. 03, 2020  8:55 PM)g2_ Wrote: Yes and Imperial Dragon is simply Cho-Z Valkyrie. Master Diabolos is Cho-Z Achilles. Big Bag Genesis is Dead Phoenix.

So what's Cho-Z Spriggan?
Also, why are we all suddenly surprised by this, there have been so many parallels to Burst 1, God, and Cho-Z in this season only halfway through

(Jan. 04, 2020  1:04 AM)God Dragruler Wrote:

(Jan. 03, 2020  9:27 PM)Strider Xanthos Wrote: So what's Cho-Z Spriggan?
Also, why are we all suddenly surprised by this, there have been so many parallels to Burst 1, God, and Cho-Z in this season only halfway through

Your confusing surprised and wanting something different no one Is really surprised about the copy part , in fact it's the opposite most of the people who point that gt was looking basically a cho z copy (which is true) from how the story was going it's and cho z was 50/50 when it comes to like and hated , Having the same plot is one thing but where's the twist where's the originality gt being compared heavily to cho z proves it has no flavour of it's own fans predicated it with no effort cause that's what happens 90% of the time gt doesn't even try to surprised us by saying nope your prediction was wrong this time (which would very good) . The only thing I can think that we didn't see previously Is the character Joe and for some fumiya alot of juggernaut anime ,manga/light Novel and comic books tends to be very similar to one another but their's a twist in between that gives them their own personality and gt doesn't have it so far. I think thats mostly why people feel annoyed by .