[Takara Tomy] Hell Salamander Testing Thread

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RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - BladerGem - Jun. 21, 2018

Nice to know I have SOMETHING that can beat this monster...

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - ThePheonix - Jun. 21, 2018

Hi @[MonoDragon]! Are you still testing? If yes then can you try G3.7C.At VS hS.7.Ds? (if you want you can put Cross or Bump...)

Thanks In Advance!

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - strato-abyss19 - Jun. 22, 2018

It's insane how good this layer is. We already have a jack of all trades that outguns even the legendary Spriggan Requiem. I might just start doing some tests of my own.

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - Rebel Blader - Jun. 22, 2018

(Jun. 21, 2018 3:22 AM)MonoDragon Wrote: Hell Salamander (Defense Mode) 7Cross Atomic vs. Maximum Garuda (Hasbro) 7Cross Atomic

mG7CAt: 17 SF
3 Draws

Hell Salamander Win Rate: 0%

Dang...

Try the same matchup but with hS having bearing

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - GOD CHIPS - Jun. 22, 2018

Try HS 7 Yard

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - K1D - Jun. 22, 2018

I wonder if bounce attack is decent
hS (Atk)2G.Op (Atk),Even,sliding shoot

Vs
F3.4G.At (Hasbro),Odd,Sliding shoot
Both hard launch
@[strato-abyss19]
Here's a test for ya to start with

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - iiggoor - Jun. 23, 2018

(Jun. 21, 2018 3:22 AM)MonoDragon Wrote: Hell Salamander (Defense Mode) 7Cross Atomic vs. Maximum Garuda (Hasbro) 7Cross Atomic

mG7CAt: 17 SF
3 Draws

Hell Salamander Win Rate: 0%

Dang...

Interesting.
My hS outspins mG most of times.
E.g. hS.4.M.At vs mG.4/5.G.R/O

Spoiler (Click to View)

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - strato-abyss19 - Jun. 30, 2018

K1D That might have to wait until I can actually get my hands on a Hasbro Faf. The supply of beys here where I live is pretty dry.

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - Floydgoro - Jun. 30, 2018

Hell Salamander(Defense) 4g Atomic vs Maximum Garuda (TT) 7c Orbit

hS: 13 wins all by outspin
mG: 1 win by outspin
Draw: 6

hS win rate: 65%

Equipment used was b-88 lr string launcher for hS and light launcher for mG. Both were launched first for 10 rounds each with hS winning more when launched second with 8 out of the 13 wins. Launcher difference and power were not a factor in my opinion since there were a couple of times where I mislaunched hS, leading to a noticably weaker spin, but it was able to spin equialize and eventually win.

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - Beyblader101_ - Jun. 30, 2018

(Jun. 30, 2018 4:33 PM)Floydgoro Wrote: Hell Salamander(Defense) 4g Atomic vs Maximum Garuda (TT) 7c Orbit

hS: 13 wins all by outspin
mG: 1 win by outspin
Draw: 6

hS win rate: 65%

Equipment used was b-88 lr string launcher for hS and light launcher for mG. Both were launched first for 10 rounds each with hS winning more when launched second with 8 out of the 13 wins. Launcher difference and power were not a factor in my opinion since there were a couple of times where I mislaunched hS, leading to a noticably weaker spin, but it was able to spin equialize and eventually win.

why is your results so different than monodragon? haha seems weird in my opinion.

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - MonoDragon - Jul. 01, 2018

My Hasbro Atomics are absurdly free spinning, that's probably why

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - Floydgoro - Jul. 01, 2018

(Jun. 30, 2018 11:25 PM)@ya.dama Wrote:
(Jun. 30, 2018 4:33 PM)Floydgoro Wrote: Hell Salamander(Defense) 4g Atomic vs Maximum Garuda (TT) 7c Orbit

hS: 13 wins all by outspin
mG: 1 win by outspin
Draw: 6

hS win rate: 65%

Equipment used was b-88 lr string launcher for hS and light launcher for mG. Both were launched first for 10 rounds each with hS winning more when launched second with 8 out of the 13 wins. Launcher difference and power were not a factor in my opinion since there were a couple of times where I mislaunched hS, leading to a noticably weaker spin, but it was able to spin equialize and eventually win.

why is your results so different than monodragon? haha seems weird in my opinion.

(Jul. 01, 2018 12:11 AM)MonoDragon Wrote: My Hasbro Atomics are absurdly free spinning, that's probably why

I was using orbit for mG on this test instead of atomic. I can do tests with both using atomics though.

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - Floydgoro - Jul. 01, 2018

Hell Salamander(Defense) 4g Atomic vs Maximum Garuda (TT) 4c Atomic

hS: 5 wins (2 bursts)
mG: 11 wins all by outspins
Draws: 4
hS win rate: 25%

Spoiler (Click to View)

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - ThePheonix - Jul. 01, 2018

(Jul. 01, 2018 3:23 PM)Floydgoro Wrote: Hell Salamander(Defense) 4g Atomic vs Maximum Garuda (TT) 4c Atomic

hS: 5 wins (2 bursts)
mG: 11 wins all by outspins
Draws: 4
hS win rate: 25%

Spoiler (Click to View)
Equipment used for this test are b-88 LR String launcher for hS and light launcher for mG, tests were done on a b-33 Black Standard type stadium. I initially wanted to use a 7 disc for mG and a 4 disc for hS but decided to use 4 on both beys, since I only have one 7 disc, to lessen the variables. Again, each beys were launched first for 10 rounds each.

mG launched first: hS 2 wins by outspin, mG 4 wins, 4 draws
hS launched first: hS 3 wins (2 bursts), mG 7 wins, 0 draws

Launch order might be a factor here as the results indicate. mG can clearly outspin hS. But as I observed, mG's wins are mostly due to the layer's LAD. The difference between the frames might be a factor here.

Conclusion: mG has better LAD, but the difference in stamina is pretty much negligible. But I will still stick to orbit whenever using mG due to it's burst resistance. Hell Salamander is still a formidable layer especially on a 3on3 deck format were versatility is valued more than specialization.

I would love to revisit this test in the future once I get a second b-88 and research more on how Glaive and cross affect LAD on each spin direction.

Hey great tests! Can I ask you to switch the mode on hS because if you do wanna be circle vs circle, the results get obvious... Thanks in advance!

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - Floydgoro - Jul. 02, 2018

(Jul. 01, 2018 3:58 PM)ThePheonix Wrote:
(Jul. 01, 2018 3:23 PM)Floydgoro Wrote: Hell Salamander(Defense) 4g Atomic vs Maximum Garuda (TT) 4c Atomic

hS: 5 wins (2 bursts)
mG: 11 wins all by outspins
Draws: 4
hS win rate: 25%

Spoiler (Click to View)
Equipment used for this test are b-88 LR String launcher for hS and light launcher for mG, tests were done on a b-33 Black Standard type stadium. I initially wanted to use a 7 disc for mG and a 4 disc for hS but decided to use 4 on both beys, since I only have one 7 disc, to lessen the variables. Again, each beys were launched first for 10 rounds each.

mG launched first: hS 2 wins by outspin, mG 4 wins, 4 draws
hS launched first: hS 3 wins (2 bursts), mG 7 wins, 0 draws

Launch order might be a factor here as the results indicate. mG can clearly outspin hS. But as I observed, mG's wins are mostly due to the layer's LAD. The difference between the frames might be a factor here.

Conclusion: mG has better LAD, but the difference in stamina is pretty much negligible. But I will still stick to orbit whenever using mG due to it's burst resistance. Hell Salamander is still a formidable layer especially on a 3on3 deck format were versatility is valued more than specialization.

I would love to revisit this test in the future once I get a second b-88 and research more on how Glaive and cross affect LAD on each spin direction.

Hey great tests! Can I ask you to switch the mode on hS because if you do wanna be circle vs circle, the results get obvious... Thanks in advance!

I'll do the test tomorrow, I don't have much spare time today.

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - ThePheonix - Jul. 02, 2018

(Jul. 02, 2018 1:54 AM)Floydgoro Wrote:
(Jul. 01, 2018 3:58 PM)ThePheonix Wrote: Hey great tests! Can I ask you to switch the mode on hS because if you do wanna be circle vs circle, the results get obvious... Thanks in advance!

I'll do the test tomorrow, I don't have much spare time today.

Yeah that’s cool Smile

Do what you have to...

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - Infinite.Zero - Jul. 02, 2018

(Jul. 01, 2018 3:58 PM)ThePheonix Wrote:
(Jul. 01, 2018 3:23 PM)Floydgoro Wrote: Hell Salamander(Defense) 4g Atomic vs Maximum Garuda (TT) 4c Atomic

hS: 5 wins (2 bursts)
mG: 11 wins all by outspins
Draws: 4
hS win rate: 25%

Spoiler (Click to View)
Equipment used for this test are b-88 LR String launcher for hS and light launcher for mG, tests were done on a b-33 Black Standard type stadium. I initially wanted to use a 7 disc for mG and a 4 disc for hS but decided to use 4 on both beys, since I only have one 7 disc, to lessen the variables. Again, each beys were launched first for 10 rounds each.

mG launched first: hS 2 wins by outspin, mG 4 wins, 4 draws
hS launched first: hS 3 wins (2 bursts), mG 7 wins, 0 draws

Launch order might be a factor here as the results indicate. mG can clearly outspin hS. But as I observed, mG's wins are mostly due to the layer's LAD. The difference between the frames might be a factor here.

Conclusion: mG has better LAD, but the difference in stamina is pretty much negligible. But I will still stick to orbit whenever using mG due to it's burst resistance. Hell Salamander is still a formidable layer especially on a 3on3 deck format were versatility is valued more than specialization.

I would love to revisit this test in the future once I get a second b-88 and research more on how Glaive and cross affect LAD on each spin direction.

Hey great tests! Can I ask you to switch the mode on hS because if you do wanna be circle vs circle, the results get obvious... Thanks in advance!

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - ThePheonix - Jul. 02, 2018

(Jul. 02, 2018 6:34 AM)Infinite.Zero Wrote:
(Jul. 01, 2018 3:58 PM)ThePheonix Wrote: Hey great tests! Can I ask you to switch the mode on hS because if you do wanna be circle vs circle, the results get obvious... Thanks in advance!

Umm... Why did you quote me?

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - Suhasini - Jul. 02, 2018

(Jul. 02, 2018 11:51 AM)ThePheonix Wrote: Umm... Why did you quote me?

I guess by mistake? Well anyways, it's a spam.

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - Infinite.Zero - Jul. 02, 2018

(Jul. 02, 2018 11:51 AM)ThePheonix Wrote: Umm... Why did you quote me?

I am terribly sorry ThePheonix for qouting you.

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - ThePheonix - Jul. 02, 2018

(Jul. 02, 2018 3:27 PM)Infinite.Zero Wrote:
(Jul. 02, 2018 11:51 AM)ThePheonix Wrote: Umm... Why did you quote me?
I am terribly sorry ThePheonix for qouting you.

You my quote anyone but you should write a reply accompanying it...

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - Valkyriology - Jul. 02, 2018

(Jul. 02, 2018 4:32 PM)ThePheonix Wrote:
(Jul. 02, 2018 3:27 PM)Infinite.Zero Wrote: I am terribly sorry ThePheonix for qouting you.

You my quote anyone but you should write a reply accompanying it...

I mean it's not really a big deal probably just a mistake...

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - Floydgoro - Jul. 03, 2018

(Jul. 01, 2018 3:58 PM)ThePheonix Wrote: Hey great tests! Can I ask you to switch the mode on hS because if you do wanna be circle vs circle, the results get obvious... Thanks in advance!

Hell Salamander(Attack) 4g Atomic vs Maximum Garuda (TT) 4c Atomic

hS: 9 wins (3 bursts)
mG: 9 wins all by outspins
Draws: 2

Spoiler (Click to View)

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - Infinite.Zero - Jul. 03, 2018

(Jul. 03, 2018 5:04 AM)Floydgoro Wrote:
(Jul. 01, 2018 3:58 PM)ThePheonix Wrote: Hey great tests! Can I ask you to switch the mode on hS because if you do wanna be circle vs circle, the results get obvious... Thanks in advance!

Hell Salamander(Attack) 4g Atomic vs Maximum Garuda (TT) 4c Atomic

hS: 9 wins (3 bursts)
mG: 9 wins all by outspins
Draws: 2
[spoiler]
Equipment used are the same with the previous tests except for the atomic used on mG is a fresh out of the box from rbv6.

Again, each were launched first for 10 rounds each.

mG launched first: hS 3 wins (1 burst), mG 6 wins, draw 1
hS launched first: hS 6 wins (2 bursts), mG 3 wins, draw 1

The results of this test feels weird. I was expecting hS to do worse on attack mode against mG. I am really dumbfounded on how hS performed better on attack mode. The new atomic might be a factor here. Someone might want to repeat this test to have conclusive results.

That is pretty amazing how a God layer is doing work against these cho z combos other then Sr.

RE: Hell Salamander Testing Thread - ThePheonix - Jul. 03, 2018

(Jul. 03, 2018 5:04 AM)Floydgoro Wrote:
(Jul. 01, 2018 3:58 PM)ThePheonix Wrote: Hey great tests! Can I ask you to switch the mode on hS because if you do wanna be circle vs circle, the results get obvious... Thanks in advance!

Hell Salamander(Attack) 4g Atomic vs Maximum Garuda (TT) 4c Atomic

hS: 9 wins (3 bursts)
mG: 9 wins all by outspins
Draws: 2

Spoiler (Click to View)
Equipment used are the same with the previous tests except for the atomic used on mG is a fresh out of the box from rbv6.

Again, each were launched first for 10 rounds each.

mG launched first: hS 3 wins (1 burst), mG 6 wins, draw 1
hS launched first: hS 6 wins (2 bursts), mG 3 wins, draw 1

The results of this test feels weird. I was expecting hS to do worse on attack mode against mG. I am really dumbfounded on how hS performed better on attack mode. The new atomic might be a factor here. Someone might want to repeat this test to have conclusive results.

Ha! What’d I tell ya! hS will get in more hits because of the shape...