(Jun. 17, 2018  3:08 PM)@ya.dama Wrote: what i meant is that they shouldnt be banned in the limited format because they arent overpowered, sorry if i worded it incorrectly

(Apr. 08, 2018  8:10 AM)Siⱺn Wrote: I think so. With the creation of God/Switchstrike and ChoZ/Metal Layers, They greatly threw away a heaping portion of the metagame into the "Collection Purposes only" Bin. I personally think we should create a new format that bans specific parts, as to allow people with outdated Collections to be able to play a fair shot in tournament.

Here is what I propose:

Banned Layers:

ALL ChoZ and God/swtichstrike layers 
Dark Deathscyther
Lost Longinus
Exceptions: Shelter Regalus and Shadow Orichalcum


Banned Discs:

All Number cores
Heavy
Gravity
Outer
(This is because most top tier combos use heavier than average discs in the standard metagame. Banning them would open up the use of many more discs that can be used)
Exceptions: 11

All frames Banned Due to almost all core number discs being banned. 

Banned Drivers:
No drivers are banned, because the driver meta seems to be largely even.

Feel free to edit this list as much as you want. this is just an early concept. Tweak it as much as you want.

(Apr. 08, 2018  10:09 PM)Siⱺn Wrote:

(Apr. 08, 2018  4:38 PM)LordL0Ls Wrote: Legend Spriggan, Nightmare Longinus, Spriggan Requiem, and the Chozetsu beys would most likely make the list for layers. God layer beys, D2, and L2 shouldn't be banned since they are outclassed.

For number discs, 7, 0, and 12 should be banned. Maybe ban Polish, and unban Heavy & Gravity.

Drivers shouldn't get banned, but if they did, Atomic would definitely make the list.

My greatest concern is that all dual layers are outclassed because of  the God System. Dual layers also tend to have weaker teeth than god layers, which I feel could cause an imbalance for the long run. D2 and L2 were also dominating layers before God, to the point D2 had to be banned. I'm concerned L2 may be too heavy.

If you look at winning combos from the early metagame, they always comprised of Heavy and Gravity discs. All Number discs except for 11 and 12 are heavier than either one of those, probably leading many people to use them over  A-Z discs. I don't really recall anyone using something other than Heavy or Gravity in competitive play prior to Numbers. Since most other discs are roughly around the same weight, I would like too see how people use those instead of relying on a weight creep.

I also want to get rid of left spin in a limited format. Judging from what you have unbanned, dF 4B At, and spammed mG combos would easily dominate the metagame.

(Jun. 19, 2018  12:27 PM)1234beyblade Wrote: We also need to consider the fact that pre dual layers have wear issues.  I think our focus should be around dual layer and god layer for limited personally.

(Jun. 19, 2018  5:37 PM)Frostic Fox Wrote:

(Jun. 19, 2018  12:27 PM)1234beyblade Wrote: We also need to consider the fact that pre dual layers have wear issues.  I think our focus should be around dual layer and god layer for limited personally.

Is that just a TT issue? Or for both brands?

(Jun. 19, 2018  7:17 PM)1234beyblade Wrote:

(Jun. 19, 2018  5:37 PM)Frostic Fox Wrote: Is that just a TT issue? Or for both brands?

TT, I played with my Hasbro beyblades like twice so i couldn't tell you if they wear too.  They obviously do, it's just not as noticable.

(Jun. 19, 2018  7:17 PM)1234beyblade Wrote: TT, I played with my Hasbro beyblades like twice so i couldn't tell you if they wear too.  They obviously do, it's just not as noticable.

(Jun. 19, 2018  8:10 PM)bladekid Wrote: Hasbro beys do wear. For example, my Legend Spryzen has worn a bit and isn't as good, but so did my TT one. I use my hasbro one way more that my TT one and they have a similar amount of wear. Also, the hasbro rubber doesn't wear as much as TT rubber. They both wear, but hasbro doesn't wear as much.

(Jun. 19, 2018  11:48 PM)Frostic Fox Wrote: I'm not questioning whether Hasbro wears at all or not. I'm asking, is TT the only one with a significant wear problem for Single Layers? Fair if you don't know.

(Jun. 19, 2018  12:27 PM)1234beyblade Wrote: I really like how hS kinda dominates but has a 100% counter along with some 50/50 match ups and sX/wV/cR being sooo good for right spin attack all that's missing is a good left spin attacker (nL doesn't do the job unfortunately).

(Jun. 21, 2018  2:01 AM)MonoDragon Wrote:

(Jun. 19, 2018  12:27 PM)1234beyblade Wrote: I really like how hS kinda dominates but has a 100% counter along with some 50/50 match ups and sX/wV/cR being sooo good for right spin attack all that's missing is a good left spin attacker (nL doesn't do the job unfortunately).

Can I ask what that 100% counter is?

(Jun. 21, 2018  2:01 AM)MonoDragon Wrote:

(Jun. 19, 2018  12:27 PM)1234beyblade Wrote: I really like how hS kinda dominates but has a 100% counter along with some 50/50 match ups and sX/wV/cR being sooo good for right spin attack all that's missing is a good left spin attacker (nL doesn't do the job unfortunately).

Can I ask what that 100% counter is?

(Jun. 21, 2018  2:06 AM)RedPanda2 Wrote:

(Jun. 21, 2018  2:01 AM)MonoDragon Wrote: Can I ask what that 100% counter is?

i’m guessing bL.0B.X?

but i was wondering as well

(Jul. 06, 2018  1:16 PM)pegasus0000 Wrote: Because the god layer system is also outdated by ChoZ,so maybe we can do this^_^ 
Banned Layers:
ALL ChoZ layers
Spriggan Requiem
Maximum Garuda
Banned Discs:
none
Banned Drivers:
none
Restriction:
Only one god layer can exist in a deck.
Only one Core disk or Heavy/Gravity/Outer can exist in a deck.
Every Bey can be used multiple times after each one has been used at least one time.
No made changes or spin direction changes are allowed in a round.
12 must use a Frame.
Other rules would be the same as the Burst system's rule.

(Jul. 06, 2018  4:41 PM)Battleburst Wrote: I will get a few cho z beys in a while and when I do I assure you you guys I will make them fall to the mighty dual layers .

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Don’t think I like dual layers more than super z beys ,I just like challenges,that’s all