(Jan. 23, 2013  9:24 PM)Kai-V Wrote: What is Gryph good at specifically, already ? Also, OK for the other point.

(Jan. 24, 2013  12:36 AM)KainHighwind Wrote: Yo, Have you not ever used Phoenic? He wasn't exaggerating at all. As far as straight smash attack goes Phoenic is better than Gryph. And what do you mean it hasn't found a use? Phoenic has showed up in way more winning combos than Gryph (and this is coming from someone that loves Gryph).

(Jan. 24, 2013  1:48 AM)Kai-V Wrote: Poor kid, hah.


Sure, go ahead and make the necessary changes and let me know once we are back to a ready status.

Quote:Stone Face: Phoenic
Weight: 1.2 grams
The black Stone Face depicts a stylized form of the Phoenix, a mythical creature in line with the theme of Zero-G. It is the first commercially available stone face in the Zero-G series to have its creature symbol printed on as opposed to only a sticker.

Chrome Wheel: Phoenic
Weight: 29.8 grams
The Phoenic Chrome Wheel has three wings formed of big, smoothed feathers pointing towards the left, therefore contrary to its spin direction. Engraved claws appear to clutch the orb from the Crystal Wheel that protrudes through Phoenic, while the heads of the two other wings represent the beaks of birds. The relief on this Chrome Wheel isn't overly complicated: in fact, its sides are mostly vertical, straight continuations of the feathers on the top, creating a jagged pattern meant for Attack.

Phoenic provides a lot of contact points and great Smash Attack potential because of its protrusions, but, by itself, it is arguably too light to be competitive. When paired with the Thief Crystal Wheel, all of Phoenic's contact points are exposed fully but only combine for a total weight of 35.1 grams, which is a disadvantage when compared to top-tier Attack Metal Wheels such as Flash (45.6 grams) and Blitz (43.72 grams).

When used as the top Chrome Wheel of a Synchrom:
Phoenic's many well defined contact points can add Smash Attack to any Synchrom. However, these contact points are easily covered by most other Chrome Wheels which reduces the chance that these points can connect with an opponent that is at a similar height as Phoenic. Because of this, it is important to strategically pick a Track that places Phoenic as the main contact point for your opponent.

When used as the bottom Chrome Wheel of a Synchrom:
Again, Phoenic will still provide amazing Smash if it is the main contact point for your opponent. It also performs great Force Smash, especially after some of its side contact points start turning up from wear. As a side note, there is a small synergy that E230, in its normal mode, has with Phoenic when it is on the bottom of a Synchrom that helps counter the problem of Phoenic’s contact points being so easily covered. In an aggressive Wobbler setup, E230’s disk will sometimes scoop the opponent up into Phoenic, which will actually "pinch" the opponent. Even though this is technically a Force Smash, because it gets squeezed between Phoenic and the disk, the opponent is sent horizontally outwards.

When Synchromed with Itself:
When put into Synchrom with another Phoenic Chrome Wheel, most of the large protrusions become covered up but expose tiny contact points that create impressive Smash Attack when delivered with its combined weight of nearly 60 grams. However, these small contact points wear down considerably fast because it absorbs the brunt of the impact as opposed to the larger feather protrusions. It is currently the most aggressively designed Chrome Wheel, being less circular than most other Chrome Wheels. Phoenic Phoenic is currently one of the best pure Attack Synchroms in the Zero-G series, displaying powerful Smash Attack comparable to top-tier Attack Metal Wheels. Its superior weight also lends it an advantage in head-to-head match-ups against other non-Zero-G Attack Metal Wheels.

Crystal Wheel: Thief
Weight: 5.3 grams
Thief is shaped in an odd way with some longer parts but also numerous angular protrusions and appears to complement Phoenic best among other chrome wheels. It has the fire element symbol on it and is colored yellow in its release with Thief Phoenic E230GCF. A red version of Thief comes with Thief Saramanda 230WB. As with most crystal wheels, Thief is an inferior partner for any Chrome Wheel due to its weight. Although its shape best reveals all of Phoenic's smash points, it is an inferior choice to another Phoenic or any other chrome wheel.

Track: Elevator 230
Weight: 7.4 grams
E230 is a mechanical upgrade to the regular 230 Track. Its core is modified to accomodate, along its whole height, the ascent and descent of a free-moving disk, hence the term "elevator". This disk however does not freely-rotate around the Track like ED145, and its vertical position cannot be fixed. E230 works almost essentially for the Zero-G Stadiums, because its gimmick requires a lot of movements up and down to function well. As the Beyblade comes down, E230 comes in contact with the sides of the stadium, and this contact is maintained all the way to the bottom, which theoretically allows the Combination to keep its balance despite the erratic movements of the Zero-G Stadiums. This allows it to stumble over even less, which is useful since it isn't a rare occurence in those stadiums.

E230's disk can be flipped over to create a sort of "boost mode" similar to BD145. The disk can be placed in such a way that it either lies fairly low on the track, or slightly elevated around the middle. In the latter configuration, the disk moves up and down much less than in the former. When used in a non-Zero-G environment, E230's disk provides additional defense compared to a 230 track. Its wide diameter, equivalent to BD145's disk, can absorb hits from low- to mid-height attackers. Despite this, it is not a direct upgrade to 230 in Stamina combos because it performs significantly different aerodynamically and balance-wise. It is considered to be a top-tier defense track because of its height and the defensive nature of the disk, which can deflect attacks that normal 230 tracks cannot.

Bottom: Gear Circle Flat
Weight: 2.5 grams
As an upgraded version of Circle Flat, GCF is a Flat Bottom with a slightly larger tip, mounted by a huge disk. Instead of its circumference being smooth like CF, the edges of the disk have ridges that evoke the feel of a mechanical gear. This gimmick is meant to embrace the curve of the Zero-G stadiums and also create less smooth movement patterns around the stadium for the Beyblade using GCF. The flat portion of the tip is wide, comparable to an XF, creating extremely fast and aggressive movement. GCF creates significant floor scrape regardless of stadium used. In a Zero-G stadium, the wide disk of GCF helps to keep the Beyblade upright , and reduce the instance of exiting through a pocket, making it a superior choice for tip compared to other Flat bottoms.

Other Versions
Thief Saramanda 230WB - BBG-09 Random Booster Vol. 1 Thief Phoenic E230GCF (contains red recolor of Thief)
Samurai Saramanda E230ES - BBG-09 Random Booster Vol. 1 Thief Phoenic E230GCF (contains red recolor of E230)
Pirates Ifraid T125GCF - BBG-09 Random Booster Vol. 1 Thief Phoenic E230GCF (contains red recolor of GCF)
WBBA Limited Thief Phoenic Flame ver. - Red recolor of Thief and Phoenic given out as a prize for events during the World Hobby Fair in Japan last June, 2012.
Pirates Phoenic WD145SF - BBG-23 Random Booster Vol. 3 Bandid Genbull F230TB (Blue and Yellow stickers, Light Blue WD145, and Red SF)
Archer Phoenic 125B - BBG-23 Random Booster Vol. 3 Bandid Genbull F230TB (Pink and Yellow stickers, Orange 125, and Lime Green B)

Overall
Phoenic is an excellent way to add a good amount of attack to any Synchrom, assuming that its contact points are able to connect with the opponent, E230 is a top tier track for defense, and GCF is considered one of the best tips for Sway Attack. Aside from its negligible Crystal Wheel and light Face, Thief Phoenic E230GCF is composed of excellent parts that can be used in various combos in both BB-10 and Zero-G environments. All serious competitive players should own this Beyblade.

Quote:Stone Face: Phoenic
Weight: 1.2 grams
The black Stone Face depicts a stylized form of the Phoenix, a mythical creature in line with the theme of Zero-G. It is the first commercially available stone face in the Zero-G series to have its creature symbol printed on as opposed to only a sticker.

Chrome Wheel: Phoenic
Weight: 29.8 grams
The Phoenic Chrome Wheel has three wings formed of big, smoothed feathers pointing towards the left, therefore contrary to its spin direction. Engraved claws appear to clutch the orb from the Crystal Wheel that protrudes through Phoenic, while the heads of the two other wings represent the beaks of birds. The relief on this Chrome Wheel isn't overly complicated: in fact, its sides are mostly vertical, straight continuations of the feathers on the top, creating a jagged pattern meant for Attack.

Phoenic provides a lot of contact points and great Smash Attack potential because of its protrusions, but, by itself, it is arguably too light to be competitive. When paired with the Thief Crystal Wheel, all of Phoenic's contact points are exposed fully but only combine for a total weight of 35.1 grams, which is a disadvantage when compared to top-tier Attack Metal Wheels such as Flash (45.6 grams) and Blitz (43.72 grams).

When used as the top Chrome Wheel of a Synchrom:
Phoenic's many well defined contact points can add Smash Attack to any Synchrom. However, these contact points are easily covered by most other Chrome Wheels which reduces the chance that these points can connect with an opponent that is at a similar height as Phoenic. Because of this, it is important to strategically pick a Track that places Phoenic as the main contact point for your opponent. Even though they do not fully expose Phoenic's contact points, the Chrome Wheels that expose them the best are, in order of most to least exposure, Balro, Gryph, and Dragooon.

When used as the bottom Chrome Wheel of a Synchrom:
Again, Phoenic will still provide amazing Smash if it is the main contact point for your opponent. It also performs great Force Smash, especially after some of its side contact points start turning up from wear. As a side note, there is a small synergy that E230, in its normal mode, has with Phoenic when it is on the bottom of a Synchrom that helps counter the problem of Phoenic’s contact points being so easily covered. In an aggressive Wobbler setup, E230’s disk will sometimes scoop the opponent up into Phoenic, which will actually "pinch" the opponent. Even though this is technically a Force Smash, because it gets squeezed between Phoenic and the disk, the opponent is sent horizontally outwards.

When in Synchrom with Itself:
When put into Synchrom with another Phoenic Chrome Wheel, it will create Phoenic's aggressive patterns but in opposite directions. Even though most of the large protrusions become covered up, it will expose tiny contact points that create impressive Smash Attack when delivered with its combined weight of nearly 60 grams. However, these small contact points wear down considerably fast because it absorbs the brunt of the impact as opposed to the larger feather protrusions. It is currently the most aggressively designed Chrome Wheel, being less circular than most other Chrome Wheels. Phoenic Phoenic is currently one of the best pure Attack Synchroms in the Zero-G series, displaying powerful Smash Attack comparable to top-tier Attack Metal Wheels. This Synchrom's superior weight also lends it an advantage in head-to-head match-ups against other non-Zero-G Attack Metal Wheels.

Crystal Wheel: Thief
Weight: 5.3 grams
Thief is shaped in an odd way with some longer parts but also numerous angular protrusions and appears to complement Phoenic best among other chrome wheels. It has the fire element symbol on it and is colored yellow in its release with Thief Phoenic E230GCF. A red version of Thief comes with Thief Saramanda 230WB. As with most crystal wheels, Thief is an inferior partner for any Chrome Wheel due to its weight. Although its shape best reveals all of Phoenic's smash points, it should not be used, even with Phoenic.

Track: Elevator 230
Weight: 7.4 grams
E230 is a mechanical upgrade to the regular 230 Track. Its core is modified to accomodate, along its whole height, the ascent and descent of a free-moving disk, hence the term "elevator". This disk however does not freely-rotate around the Track like ED145, and its vertical position cannot be fixed. E230 works almost essentially for the Zero-G Stadiums, because its gimmick requires a lot of movements up and down to function well. As the Beyblade comes down, E230 comes in contact with the sides of the stadium, and this contact is maintained all the way to the bottom, which theoretically allows the Combination to keep its balance despite the erratic movements of the Zero-G Stadiums. This allows it to stumble over even less, which is useful since it isn't a rare occurence in those stadiums.

E230's disk can be flipped over to create a sort of "Boost Mode" similar to BD145. The disk can be placed in such a way that it either lies fairly low on the Track, or slightly elevated around the middle. In the latter configuration, the disk moves up and down much less than in the former. When used in a non-Zero-G environment, E230's disk provides additional defense compared to a 230 Track. Its wide diameter, equivalent to BD145's disk, can absorb hits from low- to mid-height attackers. Despite this, it is not a direct upgrade to 230 in Stamina combos because it performs significantly different aerodynamically and balance-wise. It is considered to be a top-tier Defense Track because of its height and the defensive nature of the disk, which can deflect attacks that normal 230 Tracks cannot.

Bottom: Gear Circle Flat
Weight: 2.5 grams
As an upgraded version of Circle Flat, GCF is a Flat Bottom with a slightly larger tip, mounted by a huge disk. Instead of its circumference being smooth like CF, the edges of the disk have ridges that evoke the feel of a mechanical gear. This gimmick is meant to embrace the curve of the Zero-G stadiums and also create less smooth movement patterns around the stadium for the Beyblade using GCF. The flat portion of the tip is wide, comparable to an XF, providing extremely fast and aggressive movement. GCF creates significant floor scrape regardless of stadium used. In a Zero-G stadium, the wide disk of GCF helps to keep the Beyblade upright, and reduce the instance of exiting through a pocket, making it a superior choice for tip compared to other Flat bottoms.

Other Versions
Thief Saramanda 230WB - BBG-09 Random Booster Vol. 1 Thief Phoenic E230GCF (contains red recolor of Thief)
Samurai Saramanda E230ES - BBG-09 Random Booster Vol. 1 Thief Phoenic E230GCF (contains red recolor of E230)
Pirates Ifraid T125GCF - BBG-09 Random Booster Vol. 1 Thief Phoenic E230GCF (contains red recolor of GCF)
WBBA Limited Thief Phoenic Flame ver. - Red recolor of Thief and Phoenic given out as a prize for events during the World Hobby Fair in Japan last June, 2012.
Pirates Phoenic WD145SF - BBG-23 Random Booster Vol. 3 Bandid Genbull F230TB (Blue and Yellow stickers, Light Blue WD145, and Red SF)
Archer Phoenic 125B - BBG-23 Random Booster Vol. 3 Bandid Genbull F230TB (Pink and Yellow stickers, Orange 125, and Lime Green B)

Overall
Phoenic is an excellent way to add a good amount of Attack to any Synchrom, assuming that its contact points are able to connect with the opponent, E230 is a top tier Track for Defense, and GCF is considered one of the best tips for Zero-G Attack. Aside from its negligible Crystal Wheel and light Stone Face, Thief Phoenic E230GCF is composed of excellent parts that can be used in various combos in both BB-10 and Zero-G environments. All serious competitive players should own this Beyblade.

Quote:Stone Face: Phoenic
Weight: 1.2 grams
The black Stone Face depicts a stylized form of the Phoenix, a mythical creature in line with the theme of Zero-G. It is the first commercially available Stone Face in the Zero-G series to have its creature symbol printed on as opposed to only a sticker.

Chrome Wheel: Phoenic
Weight: 29.8 grams
The Phoenic Chrome Wheel has three wings formed of big, smoothed feathers pointing towards the left, therefore contrary to its spin direction. Engraved talons appear to clutch the orb from the Crystal Wheel that protrudes through Phoenic, while the heads of the two other wings represent the beaks of birds. The relief on this Chrome Wheel isn't overly complicated: in fact, its sides are mostly vertical, straight continuations of the feathers on the top, creating a jagged pattern meant for Attack.

Phoenic provides a lot of contact points and great Smash Attack potential because of its protrusions, but, by itself, it is arguably too light to be competitive. When paired with the Thief Crystal Wheel, all of Phoenic's contact points are exposed fully but only combine for a total weight of 35.1 grams, which is a disadvantage when compared to top-tier Attack Metal Wheels such as Flash (45.6 grams) and Blitz (43.72 grams).

When used as the top Chrome Wheel of a Synchrom:
Phoenic's many well defined contact points can add Smash Attack to any Synchrom. However, these contact points are easily covered by most other Chrome Wheels which reduces the chance that these points can connect with an opponent that is at a similar height as Phoenic. Because of this, it is important to strategically pick a Track that places Phoenic as the main contact point for your opponent. Even though they do not fully expose Phoenic's protrusions, the Chrome Wheels that expose them the best are, in order of most to least exposure, Balro, Gryph, and Dragooon.

When used as the bottom Chrome Wheel of a Synchrom:
Again, Phoenic will still provide amazing Smash if it is the main contact point for your opponent. It also performs great Force Smash, especially after some of its side contact points start turning up from wear. As a side note, there is a small synergy that E230, in its normal mode, has with Phoenic when it is on the bottom of a Synchrom that helps counter the problem of Phoenic’s contact points being so easily covered. In an aggressive Wobbler setup, E230’s disk will sometimes scoop the opponent up into Phoenic, which will actually "pinch" the opponent. Even though this is technically a Force Smash, because it gets squeezed between Phoenic and the disk, the opponent is sent horizontally outwards.

When in Synchrom with Itself:
When put into Synchrom with another Phoenic Chrome Wheel, it will create Phoenic's aggressive patterns but in opposite directions. Even though most of the large protrusions become covered up, it will expose tiny contact points that create impressive Smash Attack when delivered with its combined weight of nearly 60 grams.However, these small contact points wear down considerably fast because it absorbs the brunt of the impact as opposed to the larger feather protrusions. It is currently the most aggressively designed Chrome Wheel, being less circular than most other Chrome Wheels. Phoenic Phoenic is currently one of the best pure Attack Synchroms in the Zero-G series, displaying powerful Smash Attack comparable to top-tier Attack Metal Wheels. This Synchrom's superior weight also lends it an advantage in head-to-head match-ups against other non-Zero-G Attack Metal Wheels.

Crystal Wheel: Thief
Weight: 5.3 grams
Thief is shaped in an odd way with some longer parts but also numerous angular protrusions and appears to complement Phoenic best among other Crystal Wheels. It has the fire element symbol on it and is colored yellow in its release with Thief Phoenic E230GCF. A red version of Thief comes with Thief Saramanda 230WB. As with most Crystal Wheels, Thief is an inferior partner for any Chrome Wheel due to its weight. Although its shape best reveals all of Phoenic's smash points, it should not be used competitively, even with Phoenic.

Track: Elevator 230
Weight: 7.4 grams
E230 is a mechanical upgrade to the regular 230 Track. Its core is modified to accomodate, along its whole height, the ascent and descent of a free-moving disk, hence the term "elevator". This disk however does not freely-rotate around the Track like ED145, and its vertical position cannot be fixed. E230 works almost essentially for the Zero-G Stadiums, because its gimmick requires a lot of movements up and down to function well. As the Beyblade comes down, E230 comes in contact with the sides of the stadium, and this contact is maintained all the way to the bottom, which theoretically allows the combination to keep its balance despite the erratic movements of the Zero-G Stadiums. This allows it to stumble over even less, which is useful since it isn't a rare occurence in those stadiums.

E230's disk can legally but secretly be flipped over to create a sort of "Boost Mode" similar to BD145. The disk can be placed in such a way that it either lies fairly low on the Track, or slightly elevated around the middle. In the latter configuration, the disk moves up and down much less than in the former. When used in a non-Zero-G environment, E230's disk provides additional defense compared to a 230 Track. Its wide diameter, equivalent to BD145's disk, can absorb hits from low- to mid-height attackers. Despite this, it is not a direct upgrade to 230 in Stamina combos because it performs significantly different aerodynamically and balance-wise. It is considered to be a top-tier Defense Track because of its height and the defensive nature of the disk, which can deflect attacks that normal 230 Tracks cannot.

Use in Defense Customization
The E230 Track has found use both in traditional Defense and in Zero-G Defense by countering the Zero-G Attack's sway. It is solid enough to defend well against most heights without being destabilised, like in the combination '''MSF-H Revizer Revizer E230RS/RB''' or with the Bottoms BSF/MB/TB/RSF/RS for Zero-G Defense.

Bottom: Gear Circle Flat
Weight: 2.5 grams
As an upgraded version of Circle Flat, GCF is a Flat Bottom with a slightly larger tip, mounted by a huge disk. Instead of its circumference being smooth like CF, the edges of the disk have ridges that evoke the feel of a mechanical gear. This gimmick is meant to embrace the curve of the Zero-G stadiums and also create less smooth movement patterns around the stadium for the Beyblade using GCF. The flat portion of the tip is wide, comparable to an XF, providing extremely fast and aggressive movement. GCF creates significant floor scrape regardless of stadium used. In a Zero-G stadium, the wide disk of GCF helps to keep the Beyblade upright, and reduce the instance of exiting through a pocket, making it a superior choice for tip compared to other Flat bottoms.

Use in Zero-G Attack Customization
GCF is essential, like CF, to create the swaying gimmick known as Zero-G Attack. Its wide disk reaches out to the stadium curve and, paired with a lot of weight, it pushes the Zero-G Stadium towards it, destabilizing the opponent to the point where it can be knocked out completely without even being touched. It can therefore be used effectively in the combination '''MSF/MSF-H Wyvang Wyvang E230/SA165/SP230 GCF'''.

Other Versions
Thief Saramanda 230WB - BBG-09 Random Booster Vol. 1 Thief Phoenic E230GCF (Clear red Thief)
Samurai Saramanda E230ES - BBG-09 Random Booster Vol. 1 Thief Phoenic E230GCF (Clear red E230)
Pirates Ifraid T125GCF - BBG-09 Random Booster Vol. 1 Thief Phoenic E230GCF (Clear red GCF)
WBBA Limited Thief Phoenic Flame ver. - World Hobby Fair Summer 2012 battle point redemption prize (Red)
Pirates Phoenic WD145SF - BBG-23 Random Booster Vol. 3 Bandid Genbull F230TB (Blue and yellow stickers)
Archer Phoenic 125B - BBG-23 Random Booster Vol. 3 Bandid Genbull F230TB (Pink and Yellow stickers)

Overall
Phoenic is an excellent way to add a good amount of Attack to any Synchrom, assuming that its contact points are able to connect with the opponent. E230 is a top-tier Track for Defense, and GCF is furthermore considered one of the best tips for Zero-G Attack. Aside from its negligible Crystal Wheel and light Stone Face, Thief Phoenic E230GCF is composed of excellent parts that can be used in various combos in both BB-10 and Zero-G environments. All serious competitive players should own this Beyblade.

Quote:Overall
Phoenic is an excellent way to add a good amount of Attack to any Synchrom, assuming that its contact points are able to connect with the opponent. E230 is a top-tier Track for Defense, and GCF is furthermore considered one of the best Bottoms for Zero-G Attack. Aside from its negligible Crystal Wheel and light Stone Face, Thief Phoenic E230GCF is composed of excellent parts that can be used in various combos in both BB-10 and Zero-G environments. All serious competitive players should own multiples of this Beyblade.

(Feb. 14, 2013  7:56 PM)KainHighwind Wrote: @*Ginga*, I believe it should technically be "Performance Tips", not Bottoms.

(Feb. 23, 2013  7:57 PM)PyroBlader88 Wrote: if anyone has a picture of hasbro`s thief phoenix it would be cool to see