(Mar. 14, 2009  1:24 AM)AnnieDuck Wrote: It's astonishing how few members are using the incredible resource that Brad and his team have put together in the form of the BeyWiki.

(Mar. 14, 2009  1:04 PM)Rocky Wrote: On a slight tangent, this.
Personally, I don't mind answering the stupid little questions that newer members sometimes have - the ones that other people find irritating; they make me feel smart. XD But still, it'd be nice if more people could look through the wiki. Sure it doesn't have a page for every single beyblade but it's detailed, it has combo ideas, etc. and it covers the basics. It really is excellent and it's a shame the newer members don't read it more. I know I'm still an idiot somewhat but I read through it all when I joined and I genuinely found it interesting so it's not like it should be a burden for anyone with a real passion for beyblades.
And then if people do that more then they're gonna know more about both series and keep their love of plastics as pure preference rather than set in stone.

And Ild like to take this moment to give a quick but heartfelt thank you for all those who have contributed to the Beywiki. It's an amazing feat of human perseverance and I know all the information there has come directly from all of you and taken up your own time. I can only hope that one day I'll be knowledgable enough to write my own article.

(Mar. 14, 2009  6:14 PM)BladerQ Wrote: What a dumb topic. As the owner of the site can't you just suspend people that piss you off instead of making a volatile topic such as this one?

(Mar. 14, 2009  6:05 PM)arbitor365 Wrote: "This board is full of whiners who can only compare MFB to the new series. I'm sick of it, like really sick of it. "ohhh i like plastics more, oh this new series is lame, why aren't they using the old characters, blahblahblah" Shut up. Seriously, just shut up. It's a miracle that Beyblade came back at all, and if all you can still talk about are Beyblades from over a decade ago I have to question how much you like Beyblade in the first place."


So what I hear you saying is
"since you wont throw away your collection of classic tops for a new gimmick of metal blades, you must not be real fans."
There is a reason why we love the classics. There were hundreds of plastic blades making thousands of possibilities. It was the only series to remain constant. The electric light up beyblades came along and failed. The magnet core beyblades were similar to the original ones but the utilized magnets. The blades were cool but the magnet gimmick was useless. So consequently they died as well. Next there were the remote control blades. It was a good concept but they had no metal ring. They were tossed aside as well. The engine gear blades came out in attempt to improve the action of the battles. The problem was, they were bulky and they spun out of control and landed in the pits of the arena. While all these series came and went there always one that remained. The original. The simplicity and active customization made these tops the most fun to watch and the best selling. They were a toy that lasted through the ages. The final attempt to outdo the originals came out a few years ago. The HMS tops. When I first heard of these I didn’t know what to think. A full metal attack ring? A left/right spin launcher? All new customization tools? WOW! This thing is total ****ing garbage. Full metal my ***. I’d rather it be full ****ing size. Here is what was wrong with them

1) they were too small
2) customization was a pain
3) there was almost no customization because the pieces were almost exactly the same
4) the battles were boring to watch
5) battles spanned out too long and you just wanted them to end
6) they weren’t compatible with the originals
7) only about 10 tops or even less came out for the series before it bit the dust. What kind of marketing was that? WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?

Now ive heard the argument that the HMS can easily beat the normal ones. Well that’s a pointless argument right there. That’s like if someone buys 1000 dollars worth of pokemon cards and makes the ultimate deck. Then someone with a Zippo comes along and lights them all on fire. Well I guess the Zippo is stronger than the deck but its still cheap and stupid. If you are judging by pure strength than just don’t use normal beyblades. Use the ones you can order off the internet, you know, the ones that can take your finger off. Whether they are strong or not it still doesnt change all the flaws I mentioned above and what it all comes down to is that the HMS tops are still worthless. The HMS tops are one of the reasons why beyblade died. And now they are trying to resuscitate it by making more metal tops. That’s like poisoning someone and trying to bring them back to life by pumping antifreeze into their veins. Now, these new tops don’t look bad. Mixing metal with plastic is a good concept. At least they aren’t microscopic like the HMS. But there is one tiny problem. They aren’t compatible with the originals. Now for beyblade noobs (like a lot of people here) that wouldn’t be a problem because they don’t have a large collection to begin with but for hard core fans like me, who have been here since the beginning, it renders our collections useless. Why are they trying to start over? If they want to bring beyblade back why couldn’t they have made the compatible with the originals? Defending them for sake of bringing beyblade back is absurd. That’s like if your mom died and in order to bring her back to life you turn her into a flesh eating zombie. Starting the franchise over makes NO sense. Its like if konami decided yugi-oh would now have a whole new series of cards with a whole different playing style. Fans wouldn’t just say “well ive been using these cards for 10 years and I have spent thousands of dollars on them but whatever I guess ill throw them aside and start over. Does that make ANY sense? Im guessing you are too young to remember using the originals very much. I think beybalde has lost a large amount of its original fanbase, so what we are left with is a tiny minority of hardcore fans who own dozens of blades and a large majority of noob beybladers who have no respect for the originals. Well listen here buddy. The original tops are not useless relics. They are CLASSICS. They are considered some of the best toys ever made by many. The metal tops were nothing more than a marketing gimmick. If you want to be suckered in and collect the 7 HMS tops, start collecting the new ones and start your beyblade collection from scratch, that’s your loss. But don’t insult the real fans who refuse to abandon all that we ever cared about in beyblade. Bottom line, the classic tops were the best and anyone whos willing to trash them is not a true beyblade fan.

(Mar. 14, 2009  6:15 PM)arbitor365 Wrote: you are just making an excuse not to read it. I find that VERY pathetic

(Mar. 14, 2009  6:25 PM)arbitor365 Wrote: There are either 2 options

1) you are a noob who doesnt respect the originals

or

2) You are a fan who was here from the beginning but you are dumb enough to start all over.


You know guys, im not against changes in beyblade, but when these changes involve destroying everything we know about beybalde, than carp it.

(Mar. 14, 2009  6:28 PM)BladerQ Wrote: How the hell is keeping up with the times "destroying everything we know"?

(Mar. 14, 2009  6:05 PM)arbitor365 Wrote: "This board is full of whiners who can only compare MFB to the new series. I'm sick of it, like really sick of it. "ohhh i like plastics more, oh this new series is lame, why aren't they using the old characters, blahblahblah" Shut up. Seriously, just shut up. It's a miracle that Beyblade came back at all, and if all you can still talk about are Beyblades from over a decade ago I have to question how much you like Beyblade in the first place."


So what I hear you saying is
"since you wont throw away your collection of classic tops for a new gimmick of metal blades, you must not be real fans."
There is a reason why we love the classics. There were hundreds of plastic blades making thousands of possibilities. It was the only series to remain constant. The electric light up beyblades came along and failed. The magnet core beyblades were similar to the original ones but the utilized magnets. The blades were cool but the magnet gimmick was useless. So consequently they died as well. Next there were the remote control blades. It was a good concept but they had no metal ring. They were tossed aside as well. The engine gear blades came out in attempt to improve the action of the battles. The problem was, they were bulky and they spun out of control and landed in the pits of the arena. While all these series came and went there always one that remained. The original. The simplicity and active customization made these tops the most fun to watch and the best selling. They were a toy that lasted through the ages. The final attempt to outdo the originals came out a few years ago. The HMS tops. When I first heard of these I didn’t know what to think. A full metal attack ring? A left/right spin launcher? All new customization tools? WOW! This thing is total ****ing garbage. Full metal my ***. I’d rather it be full ****ing size. Here is what was wrong with them

1) they were too small
2) customization was a pain
3) there was almost no customization because the pieces were almost exactly the same
4) the battles were boring to watch
5) battles spanned out too long and you just wanted them to end
6) they weren’t compatible with the originals
7) only about 10 tops or even less came out for the series before it bit the dust. What kind of marketing was that? WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?

Now ive heard the argument that the HMS can easily beat the normal ones. Well that’s a pointless argument right there. That’s like if someone buys 1000 dollars worth of pokemon cards and makes the ultimate deck. Then someone with a Zippo comes along and lights them all on fire. Well I guess the Zippo is stronger than the deck but its still cheap and stupid. If you are judging by pure strength than just don’t use normal beyblades. Use the ones you can order off the internet, you know, the ones that can take your finger off. Whether they are strong or not it still doesnt change all the flaws I mentioned above and what it all comes down to is that the HMS tops are still worthless. The HMS tops are one of the reasons why beyblade died. And now they are trying to resuscitate it by making more metal tops. That’s like poisoning someone and trying to bring them back to life by pumping antifreeze into their veins. Now, these new tops don’t look bad. Mixing metal with plastic is a good concept. At least they aren’t microscopic like the HMS. But there is one tiny problem. They aren’t compatible with the originals. Now for beyblade noobs (like a lot of people here) that wouldn’t be a problem because they don’t have a large collection to begin with but for hard core fans like me, who have been here since the beginning, it renders our collections useless. Why are they trying to start over? If they want to bring beyblade back why couldn’t they have made the compatible with the originals? Defending them for sake of bringing beyblade back is absurd. That’s like if your mom died and in order to bring her back to life you turn her into a flesh eating zombie. Starting the franchise over makes NO sense. Its like if konami decided yugi-oh would now have a whole new series of cards with a whole different playing style. Fans wouldn’t just say “well ive been using these cards for 10 years and I have spent thousands of dollars on them but whatever I guess ill throw them aside and start over. Does that make ANY sense? Im guessing you are too young to remember using the originals very much. I think beybalde has lost a large amount of its original fanbase, so what we are left with is a tiny minority of hardcore fans who own dozens of blades and a large majority of noob beybladers who have no respect for the originals. Well listen here buddy. The original tops are not useless relics. They are CLASSICS. They are considered some of the best toys ever made by many. The metal tops were nothing more than a marketing gimmick. If you want to be suckered in and collect the 7 HMS tops, start collecting the new ones and start your beyblade collection from scratch, that’s your loss. But don’t insult the real fans who refuse to abandon all that we ever cared about in beyblade. Bottom line, the classic tops were the best and anyone whos willing to trash them is not a true beyblade fan.