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RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Dan - Mar. 23, 2011
Its not an uncommon/unheard-of combination..
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Azlanslayer - Mar. 24, 2011
Ok so, Dan said LTDC's launched using the Sliding Shoot technique will get obtain good results. Anyways, i used the technique and here are the tests for MF Flame Cancer 90WB.
Vs Attack (Click to View)
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Shabalabadoo - Mar. 24, 2011
Against WB defense. It will outspin rubber defense bottoms easily.
You got less than 25% for all except against meteo? Flame is barely lighter than earth at all, and at a low height, flame's thin profile shouldnt affect the results that much :\
I didn't get that bad when I did my tests :\
But I'll add them to the OP
Edit: wait a minute, you got a significantly lower result against Vulcan than I did. You sure you launched flame Gasher well?
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Dan - Mar. 24, 2011
WB and CS have the same amount of stamina, and when more plastic is showing with CS, it will probably have even more.. So..
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Shabalabadoo - Mar. 24, 2011
Ok dan, now I'm lost.
You mean that maybe this combo could benefit from cs?
WB's low height is what was making this do well. Any higher and it couldn't KO, which was a valuable asset to this; doing well against 85 stamina .
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Dan - Mar. 24, 2011
(Mar. 24, 2011 5:30 PM)SSJfisherman Wrote: Against WB defense. It will outspin rubber defense bottoms easily.I was referring to this. WB is just fine, easy to slide shoot.
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Shabalabadoo - Mar. 24, 2011
Oh, ahah, my bad.
Yeah, good point, I guess I'd like it against cs Defense as well
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Dan - Mar. 24, 2011
Will do right now. (shall edit this post.)
MF-H Flame Cancer 85WB vs. MF Hell Kerbecs 230CS
MF-H Flame Cancer 85WB win rate: 1/10
MF Hell Kerbecs 230CS win rate: 9/10
Destabilizer win percent: 10%
MF-H Flame Cancer 85WB vs. MF Hell Kerbecs BD145CS (Normal Mode)
MF-H Flame Cancer 85WB win rate: 6/10
MF Hell Kerbecs 230CS win rate: 4/10
Destabilizer win percent: 60%
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Shabalabadoo - Mar. 24, 2011
Forget the 230, I knew it would do bad.
Is it alright if I just put the second tests up?
And I'm surprised how well it did against hell kerbecs bd145 cs
Edit: for 230, I didn't write the results, I wrote "this combo's only current weakness is 230"
Because I had no hopes there. And all other 230 results will be bad anyways
And thank you
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Dan - Mar. 24, 2011
It could have done better if I put Kerbecs on Boost Mode, but I didn't to show whatever weakness it had.
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Azlanslayer - Mar. 29, 2011
Do we need more testings?
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Shabalabadoo - Mar. 29, 2011
Hm, all I can think of is vs flame 100 sf
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Azlanslayer - Mar. 30, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AYdyYrP44Y
Here is the video of MF Flame Bull 90WB
. This is my first time making a unedited vid 
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Ultra - Mar. 31, 2011
Would be interesting to see how this does with Burn instead of flame since the destabilisation ability is pretty equal and it has some attack ability too.
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Azlanslayer - Mar. 31, 2011
But flame doesn't have much recoil like burn does
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Ultra - Mar. 31, 2011
Fine just a suggestion but I expect it could do better than Flame cause it has more attack ability and still has the same destabiliser ability.
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Azlanslayer - Mar. 31, 2011
I will do a vid then
. Later. Wait for it ultrablader, or do u want test results first?
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Ultra - Mar. 31, 2011
I think results would be more useful tbh. Thanks for the testing.
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Azlanslayer - Mar. 31, 2011
Here it is:
Standard procedure
Burn Cancer launched with Sliding Shoot
MF Vulcan Gemios 90R2F Vs MF Burn Cancer 90WB
MF Vulcan Gemios: 7 wins (0 OS, 7 KO)
MF Burn Cancer: 3 wins (1 OS, 2 KO)
Win Percentage: 30%
Hell Kerbecs BD145WD (Boost Mode) Vs MF Burn Cancer 90WB
Hell Kerbecs: 8 wins (6 OS, 2 KO)
MF Burn Bull: 2 wins (0 OS, 2 KO)
1 Draw
Win Percentage: 20%
There's only a little bit difference
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Shabalabadoo - Mar. 31, 2011
The combos you choose to test against are strange.
Not that they're weird combos, you chose the wrong combos.
The main combos that made the difference in these tests was against stamina.
Yeah you have hell kerbecs, but the attack one really isn't necessary. I just did the attack ones in the OP to show this does well against a variety of types.
But no, I've tried burn. It's too light compared to flame. There's way too much negative recoil(you'll notice this against normal earth/burn stamina).
It would also have less defense capabilities all around due to it's recoil.
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Azlanslayer - Mar. 31, 2011
Ok then.. I will test it against hell kerbecs.
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Shabalabadoo - Mar. 31, 2011
Huh? You did... I'm not understanding why you would do them again. Unless you are switching the mode.
But here, try this.
Do mf flame Gasher 85 wb vs earth bull 145 wd
The do comparative battle: mf burn Gasher 85 wb vs earth bull 145 wd
You don't have to to tests for it, just observe
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - RustyXD - Apr. 02, 2011
i did testing and these are my results
equiptment tt attack stadium beylauncher + 3 seg launcher grip sliding shot used for attack types and flame gasher
flame gasher always launcher first execpt againts stamina types
vs 145
MF-H flame gasher 85 wb vs pegasis 145 rf
gasher wins 15 ( 5 ko, 10 os)
pegasis wins 5 ( 4 ko , 1 os)
MF-H flame gasher 85 wb vs earth bull gb145 cs
gasher wins 16 ( 2 ko, 14 os)
bull wins 4 ( 1 ko, 3 os)
MF-H flame gasher 85 wb vs hell kerbecs bd145 (boost mode) wd
gasher wins 1 (os)
kerbecs wins 9 ( 1 ko , 8 os)
i think this is a mad combo but it dosent work to well against bd145 and 230 i might do testing on other hights later
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - Shabalabadoo - Apr. 02, 2011
Sweet, I'll add them to the OP!
RE: Hybrid MF-H Flame Gasher 85 WB - th!nk - Apr. 02, 2011
(Mar. 23, 2011 11:38 AM)BladeStorm Wrote:(Mar. 23, 2011 11:29 AM)on9line Wrote: still unbelievable
Have you ever try
Hell kerbecs BD145 WD
Virgo C145/R145 WD ... or
Earth(mode2) Bull R145 WD
I don't think the combo is meant to beat stuff like Hell kerbecs BD145 WD or 230 beys.
Oldpost, I know, but seeing as (MF)Hell Kerbecs BD145WD beats basically every other stamina combo, and it's main weakness is MF-H Basalt Aquario 230CS, which will OS this easily, the concept seems kinda pointless unless you're playing an outdated metagame, and even then, buy Hell Kerbecs instead?
Sorry to be a downer, but yeah
