(Sep. 04, 2008  3:04 PM)Anubis Wrote:

(Sep. 04, 2008  2:20 PM)Gekiryu Wrote:

(Sep. 04, 2008  12:21 PM)WiLdDeFeNdEr Wrote: well this probably isn't the reason yor looking for coz i don't really know how to explain it properly, but i see it like defense and attack types are opposites, defense doesn't have advantages over attack types, they can both have an advantage over eachother, just depending if your attack is powerful enough to overpower the opponants defense or whether your defense is too solid for an attacher to do any real damag. I see endurance not as a seperate type but as something they both need but which they sacrifice in exchange for grip/contact on the stadium(which both attck and defense rely on) . e.g. so it's like I think of a wolborg blade as a different ype of defense, instead of standing it's ground and defending, it's defending it self by having it's spin minimally effected and not taking much damage.
In basic terms i kinda see defnese as eather using a shield and standing your ground(the defenders that you know) or absorbing attacks so that they have minimal efects on decreasing your spin(the endurance types which you know),

it might not make sense to anyone but it's just how i see it, like in a war you basically defend or attack, attacking with endurance in mind will enable you to fight longer but not as strong if you don't use all your energy straight away, and while defending with endurance in mind means your defense won't be as solid but you'll be able to defend for longer. (dodgey example iknow , but it's hard to explain) ,

thats the best reasoning i can come up with at the moment it's not great but it'll do.

If you have a good enough defense though, good attack or not, your opponent is screwed, that's how it used to be anyway.
However, Most attack blades nowadays are built around smash attack anyway, so they don't have as much problems against defense as what they used to.
Endurance/Survival types generally outspin defensive beyblades, Wolborg is Endurance, not defensive.
Most attack type beyblades don't require endurance because you should be able to finish the battle in a couple of hits by throwing them out of the arena, or causing enough damage so that you outspin them because you've knocked all of their spin out of them.

If that makes any sense

There's a lot of upper attack combinations. o-o;

Also, Defense is very useful. I wonder why people don't bother with it. Defense has always been my specialty and it has served me very well.

(Sep. 04, 2008  3:07 PM)Gekiryu Wrote:

(Sep. 04, 2008  3:04 PM)Anubis Wrote:

(Sep. 04, 2008  2:20 PM)Gekiryu Wrote:

(Sep. 04, 2008  12:21 PM)WiLdDeFeNdEr Wrote: well this probably isn't the reason yor looking for coz i don't really know how to explain it properly, but i see it like defense and attack types are opposites, defense doesn't have advantages over attack types, they can both have an advantage over eachother, just depending if your attack is powerful enough to overpower the opponants defense or whether your defense is too solid for an attacher to do any real damag. I see endurance not as a seperate type but as something they both need but which they sacrifice in exchange for grip/contact on the stadium(which both attck and defense rely on) . e.g. so it's like I think of a wolborg blade as a different ype of defense, instead of standing it's ground and defending, it's defending it self by having it's spin minimally effected and not taking much damage.
In basic terms i kinda see defnese as eather using a shield and standing your ground(the defenders that you know) or absorbing attacks so that they have minimal efects on decreasing your spin(the endurance types which you know),

it might not make sense to anyone but it's just how i see it, like in a war you basically defend or attack, attacking with endurance in mind will enable you to fight longer but not as strong if you don't use all your energy straight away, and while defending with endurance in mind means your defense won't be as solid but you'll be able to defend for longer. (dodgey example iknow , but it's hard to explain) ,

thats the best reasoning i can come up with at the moment it's not great but it'll do.

If you have a good enough defense though, good attack or not, your opponent is screwed, that's how it used to be anyway.
However, Most attack blades nowadays are built around smash attack anyway, so they don't have as much problems against defense as what they used to.
Endurance/Survival types generally outspin defensive beyblades, Wolborg is Endurance, not defensive.
Most attack type beyblades don't require endurance because you should be able to finish the battle in a couple of hits by throwing them out of the arena, or causing enough damage so that you outspin them because you've knocked all of their spin out of them.

If that makes any sense

There's a lot of upper attack combinations. o-o;

Also, Defense is very useful. I wonder why people don't bother with it. Defense has always been my specialty and it has served me very well.

That too XD But what i'm getting at is that there's ways of getting around defensive types with attack types and I find upper/smash does a pretty good job, then again, I don't make defensive types too often since my style always has been Balance.
So I'm probably wrong.

(Sep. 04, 2008  3:17 PM)Anubis Wrote:

(Sep. 04, 2008  3:07 PM)Gekiryu Wrote:

(Sep. 04, 2008  3:04 PM)Anubis Wrote:

(Sep. 04, 2008  2:20 PM)Gekiryu Wrote:

(Sep. 04, 2008  12:21 PM)WiLdDeFeNdEr Wrote: well this probably isn't the reason yor looking for coz i don't really know how to explain it properly, but i see it like defense and attack types are opposites, defense doesn't have advantages over attack types, they can both have an advantage over eachother, just depending if your attack is powerful enough to overpower the opponants defense or whether your defense is too solid for an attacher to do any real damag. I see endurance not as a seperate type but as something they both need but which they sacrifice in exchange for grip/contact on the stadium(which both attck and defense rely on) . e.g. so it's like I think of a wolborg blade as a different ype of defense, instead of standing it's ground and defending, it's defending it self by having it's spin minimally effected and not taking much damage.
In basic terms i kinda see defnese as eather using a shield and standing your ground(the defenders that you know) or absorbing attacks so that they have minimal efects on decreasing your spin(the endurance types which you know),

it might not make sense to anyone but it's just how i see it, like in a war you basically defend or attack, attacking with endurance in mind will enable you to fight longer but not as strong if you don't use all your energy straight away, and while defending with endurance in mind means your defense won't be as solid but you'll be able to defend for longer. (dodgey example iknow , but it's hard to explain) ,

thats the best reasoning i can come up with at the moment it's not great but it'll do.

If you have a good enough defense though, good attack or not, your opponent is screwed, that's how it used to be anyway.
However, Most attack blades nowadays are built around smash attack anyway, so they don't have as much problems against defense as what they used to.
Endurance/Survival types generally outspin defensive beyblades, Wolborg is Endurance, not defensive.
Most attack type beyblades don't require endurance because you should be able to finish the battle in a couple of hits by throwing them out of the arena, or causing enough damage so that you outspin them because you've knocked all of their spin out of them.

If that makes any sense

There's a lot of upper attack combinations. o-o;

Also, Defense is very useful. I wonder why people don't bother with it. Defense has always been my specialty and it has served me very well.

That too XD But what i'm getting at is that there's ways of getting around defensive types with attack types and I find upper/smash does a pretty good job, then again, I don't make defensive types too often since my style always has been Balance.
So I'm probably wrong.

I have a set Defense types in plastic and HMS that can get around just about any Attacker. Particularly in plastic.

In Metal Fight Beyblade, Defense hasn't really had a chance to shine. Well, actually, Pegasis145D is the best Defense type, I think. Pegasis125SF may actually have better defense because of the Semi Flat tip and lower Track.

(Sep. 04, 2008  3:04 PM)Anubis Wrote: Also, Defense is very useful. I wonder why people don't bother with it. Defense has always been my specialty and it has served me very well.

(Sep. 05, 2008  1:46 PM)pegasis Wrote: after reading your report i can understand that bull105F is the best customized MFB am i right??
and can it beat pegasis105F??

(Sep. 05, 2008  1:46 PM)pegasis Wrote: after reading your report i can understand that bull105F is the best customized MFB am i right??
and can it beat pegasis105F??

(Sep. 06, 2008  8:28 AM)pegasis Wrote: will leo105F still be a defence type or an attack type??and could it beat all other MFB like it can do with pegasis.cuz i want to know whats the best MFB even if it was customized so i can have it

(Sep. 07, 2008  12:11 AM)B Wrote: .... any mfb can beat one another, they all have weakness' that different blades can exploit. no matter what blade you get, im pretty sure you can beat another one with it (unless its extremly crappy)

(Sep. 07, 2008  12:34 AM)RockinOnBlades Wrote: I think Sagittario is the only one that suck?

(Sep. 07, 2008  12:38 AM)Evan Wrote:

(Sep. 07, 2008  12:34 AM)RockinOnBlades Wrote: I think Sagittario is the only one that suck?

It does "suck" it's just totally outdone by all others. I'm sure there is a niche use for the AR. The RC/Bottom could potentially be used for a wobbler combo.

(Sep. 07, 2008  12:46 AM)RockinOnBlades Wrote:

(Sep. 07, 2008  12:38 AM)Evan Wrote:

(Sep. 07, 2008  12:34 AM)RockinOnBlades Wrote: I think Sagittario is the only one that suck?

It does "suck" it's just totally outdone by all others. I'm sure there is a niche use for the AR. The RC/Bottom could potentially be used for a wobbler combo.

I doubt it, even if the RC/Bottom of Sagittario can use for a wobbler combo it will still suck because all the wobbler combos do is just make your blade wobbler so it won't go straight down, the other blades will just knock Sagittario out of the arena

(Sep. 07, 2008  12:11 AM)B Wrote: .... any mfb can beat one another, they all have weakness' that different blades can exploit. no matter what blade you get, im pretty sure you can beat another one with it (unless its extremly crappy)