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RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - (Blank) - Sep. 24, 2021
yes, let us make a whole thread. I bet soon someone will make a thread just for us to talk to each other lmao
RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - TheRogueBlader - Sep. 24, 2021
Good news people! Today is Friday so I haven’t got any darn tests to study for on Saturday (though I do have a huge chemistry test on Monday but I’ll be studying on the weekend for that, just not all day unlike school) I can finally do some testings! My priorities are erase Longinus with gen, my z Achilles combo which is z Achilles 00 dagger Octa, but testing with charge metal, and anyone can post their own tests or request for specific parts that I have to be tested with
Erase Longinus Gen testing
Also, for testing from now on I’m doing 7 rounds. Reason being that if you do 10, you could have a 50 50 tie but if you do 7, there’s an actual winner and it’s easier to tell
Defense test
Erase Longinus 00 meteor kick gen vs. nightmare Longinus turn evolution’
Erase (2 KO)
Longinus (4 OS, 1 KO)
Erase deflected the combo completely twice, but the other 5 times Longinus outspun, and ko’d. Erase seems to have good use in stationary defense, but the stamina is not the best. It is on kick, which was knocked off balance one too many times, so I guess it’s so early to say anything really. Next test will be for mixed attack on generate.
RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - GreaterLonginus - Sep. 25, 2021
Now I (who is HyperSpriggan's friend) shall test the stuff that HyperSpriggan had wanted to test.
Lost Longinus testing first, please wait a while.
Opposite Spin Test
Lost Longinus 00Expand Xtreme' vs Deep Chaos 00 Eternal
L2.00E.X': 6 Wins (2 KO, 4 BF)
Winning percentage: 60%
dC.00.Et: 4 Wins(4 OS)
Winning percentage: 40%
Deep Chaos had an A Mold God Chip, but still burst many times against an opposite spin opponent.
Someone who can do a better pattern with X' will probably get a better winning percentage.
Legend Spriggan 00Expand Xtreme' vs Deep Chaos 00 Eternal
lS.00E.X': 6 Wins (1 KO, 5 BF)
Winning percentage: 60%
dC.00.Et: 4 Wins (4 OS)
Winning percentage: 40%
Same result as L2, lS had more late-game bursts than L2.
Z Achilles 00Expand Xtreme' vs Drain Fafnir 00 Eternal
zA.00E.X': 3 Wins (1 KO, 2 BF)
Winning percentage: 30%
dF.00.Et: 7 Wins (7 OS)
Winning percentage: 70%
dF has much better burst resistance than dC, plus my Z Achilles has no level chip :(
Legend Spriggan 00Expand Xtreme' vs Drain Fafnir 00 Eternal
lS.00E.X': 4 Wins (2 KO, 2 BF)
Winning percentage: 40%
dF.00.Et: 6 Wins (6 OS)
Winning percentage: 60%
Slightly better than Z Achilles.
Okay these are the opposite spin test for the day!
Unfortunately, I have neither of the other Longini so I can't test them :(
L2's performance is similar to lS, but I cannot compare it to zA since dF has better burst resistance.
At least I know lS performs better than a level-chip less zA (the one from cR's RB).
I'm afraid to test same-spin because of the sheer number of bursts that would harm dC's teeth *shudder*.
Oh I remember I have a bX to test (opposite spin)!
Buster Xcalibur 00Expand Quick' vs Drain Fafnir 00 Eternal
bX.00E.Qc': 2 Wins (2 BF)
Winning percentage: 20%
dF.00.Et: 8 Wins (7 OS, 1 KO)
Winning percentage: 80%
bX is horrible in opposite spin
Ok so in opposite spin
lS>zA>bX (with a rubber attack driver)
Actually let me test sX.
Sieg Xcalibur 00Expand Xtreme' vs Drain Fafnir 00 Eternal
sX.00E.X': 6 Wins (6 BF)
Winning percentage: 60%
dF.00.Et: 4 Wins (4 OS)
Winning percentage: 40%
This shocked me, dF went boom boom boom burst, even if it didn't burst it lost almost all its clicks. :o
Ok in opposite spin
sX>lS>zA>bX
And
L2=lS
Now I shall test Ace!
Ace Dragon 00Proof Xtend+ (stamina mode) vs Deep Chaos 0 Eternal
AD.00P.Xt+: 1 Win (1 OS)
Winning percentage: 10%
dC.0.Et: 9 Wins (9 OS)
Winning percentage: 90%
Oh well shouldn't have expected much, now I shall switch the combinations.
Ace Dragon 0 Eternal vs Deep Chaos 00Proof Xtend+
AD.0.Et: 0 Wins ( )
Winning percentage: 0%
dC.00P.Xt+: 10 Wins (10 OS)
Winning percentage: 100%
AD died.
Ok, AD is horrible.
Actually I'll test it on a Destroy' or Spiral' combo.
By the way, I know Xtend+ is banned, I just want to show how AD can lose even with Xt+.
Ace Dragon 00Expand Destroy' vs Deep Chaos 0 Eternal
AD.00E.Ds': 1 Win (1 BF)
Winning percentage: 10%
dC.0.Et: 9 Wins (9 OS)
Winning percentage: 90%
Bad, let me test with Sp'.
Ace Dragon 00Expand Spiral' vs Deep Chaos 0 Eternal
AD.00E.Sp': 3 Wins (3 BF)
Winning percentage: 30%
dC.0.Et: 7 Wins (7 OS)
Winning percentage: 70%
Better at bursting, but all last-second ones.
Ok, definitely outclassed.
Now testing Galaxy Zeus!
Galaxy Zeus 0 Eternal vs Deep Chaos 0 Eternal
gZ.0.Et: 4 Wins (1 OS, 3 BF)
Winning percentage: 33.3%
dC.0.Et: 8 Wins (8 OS)
Winning percentage: 66.6%
gZ burst dC a few times, but had less stamina.
Oh yeah this isn't attack.
I'll put this into a Galazy Zeus testing thread.
Now I will test Galaxy Zeus as an attack type!
It has decent stamina so it should outspin some stuff.
I did a few battles and dC exploded a LOT so I decided not to finish it
Ok that's all for today bye guys.
@(Blank) I shall be your new mentor (btw I never got the Spriggan in the hole thing, what does it mean?)
lol just kidding
RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - (Blank) - Sep. 25, 2021
(Sep. 25, 2021 1:05 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote: Now I (who is HyperSpriggan's friend) shall test the stuff that HyperSpriggan had wanted to test.A new wise Longinus in the hole! Your knowledge will be greatly accepted. What wisdom do you offer today? :0
Lost Longinus testing first, please wait a while.
Opposite Spin Test
Lost Longinus 00Expand Xtreme' vs Deep Chaos 00 Eternal
L2.00E.X': 6 Wins (2 KO, 4 BF)
Winning percentage: 60%
dC.00.Et: 4 Wins(4 OS)
Winning percentage: 40%
Deep Chaos had an A Mold God Chip, but still burst many times against an opposite spin opponent.
Someone who can do a better pattern with X' will probably get a better winning percentage.
Legend Spriggan 00Expand Xtreme' vs Deep Chaos 00 Eternal
lS.00E.X': 6 Wins (1 KO, 5 BF)
Winning percentage: 60%
dC.00.Et: 4 Wins (4 OS)
Winning percentage: 40%
Same result as L2, lS had more late-game bursts than L2.
Z Achilles 00Expand Xtreme' vs Drain Fafnir 00 Eternal
zA.00E.X': 3 Wins (1 KO, 2 BF)
Winning percentage: 30%
dF.00.Et: 7 Wins (7 OS)
Winning percentage: 70%
dF has much better burst resistance than dC, plus my Z Achilles has no level chip
Legend Spriggan 00Expand Xtreme' vs Drain Fafnir 00 Eternal
lS.00E.X': 4 Wins (2 KO, 2 BF)
Winning percentage: 40%
dF.00.Et: 6 Wins (6 OS)
Winning percentage: 60%
Slightly better than Z Achilles.
Okay these are the opposite spin test for the day!
Unfortunately, I have neither of the other Longini so I can't test them
L2's performance is similar to lS, but I cannot compare it to zA since dF has better burst resistance.
At least I know lS performs better than a level-chip less zA (the one from cR's RB).
I'm afraid to test same-spin because of the sheer number of bursts that would harm dC's teeth *shudder*.
Oh I remember I have a bX to test (opposite spin)!
Buster Xcalibur 00Expand Quick' vs Drain Fafnir 00 Eternal
bX.00E.Qc': 2 Wins (2 BF)
Winning percentage: 20%
dF.00.Et: 8 Wins (7 OS, 1 KO)
Winning percentage: 80%
bX is horrible in opposite spin
Ok so in opposite spin
lS>zA>bX (with a rubber attack driver)
Actually let me test sX.
Sieg Xcalibur 00Expand Xtreme' vs Drain Fafnir 00 Eternal
sX.00E.X': 6 Wins (6 BF)
Winning percentage: 60%
dF.00.Et: 4 Wins (4 OS)
Winning percentage: 40%
This shocked me, dF went boom boom boom burst, even if it didn't burst it lost almost all its clicks. :o
Ok in opposite spin
sX>lS>zA>bX
And
L2=lS
Now I shall test Ace!
Ace Dragon 00Proof Xtend+ (stamina mode) vs Deep Chaos 0 Eternal
AD.00P.Xt+: 1 Win (1 OS)
Winning percentage: 10%
dC.0.Et: 9 Wins (9 OS)
Winning percentage: 90%
Oh well shouldn't have expected much, now I shall switch the combinations.
Ace Dragon 0 Eternal vs Deep Chaos 00Proof Xtend+
AD.0.Et: 0 Wins ( )
Winning percentage: 0%
dC.00P.Xt+: 10 Wins (10 OS)
Winning percentage: 100%
AD died.
Ok, AD is horrible.
Actually I'll test it on a Destroy' or Spiral' combo.
By the way, I know Xtend+ is banned, I just want to show how AD can lose even with Xt+.
Ace Dragon 00Expand Destroy' vs Deep Chaos 0 Eternal
AD.00E.Ds': 1 Win (1 BF)
Winning percentage: 10%
dC.0.Et: 9 Wins (9 OS)
Winning percentage: 90%
Bad, let me test with Sp'.
Ace Dragon 00Expand Spiral' vs Deep Chaos 0 Eternal
AD.00E.Sp': 3 Wins (3 BF)
Winning percentage: 30%
dC.0.Et: 7 Wins (7 OS)
Winning percentage: 70%
Better at bursting, but all last-second ones.
Ok, definitely outclassed.
Now testing Galaxy Zeus!
Galaxy Zeus 0 Eternal vs Deep Chaos 0 Eternal
gZ.0.Et: 4 Wins (1 OS, 3 BF)
Winning percentage: 33.3%
dC.0.Et: 8 Wins (8 OS)
Winning percentage: 66.6%
gZ burst dC a few times, but had less stamina.
Oh yeah this isn't attack.
I'll put this into a Galazy Zeus testing thread.
Now I will test Galaxy Zeus as an attack type!
It has decent stamina so it should outspin some stuff.
I did a few battles and dC exploded a LOT so I decided not to finish it
Ok that's all for today bye guys.
@(Blank) I shall be your new mentor (btw I never got the Spriggan in the hole thing, what does it mean?)
lol just kidding
Also, the meme was: Imposter in the vent. I just find that meme funny, but among us is no longer funny >
No! Ace Dragon isn't outclassed, he's just shy 😭
RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - Lucha Burst - Sep. 26, 2021
(Sep. 25, 2021 1:05 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote:
Now I shall test Ace!
Ace Dragon 00Proof Xtend+ (stamina mode) vs Deep Chaos 0 Eternal
AD.00P.Xt+: 1 Win (1 OS)
Winning percentage: 10%
dC.0.Et: 9 Wins (9 OS)
Winning percentage: 90%
Oh well shouldn't have expected much, now I shall switch the combinations.
Ace Dragon 0 Eternal vs Deep Chaos 00Proof Xtend+
AD.0.Et: 0 Wins ( )
Winning percentage: 0%
dC.00P.Xt+: 10 Wins (10 OS)
Winning percentage: 100%
AD died.
Ok, AD is horrible.
Actually I'll test it on a Destroy' or Spiral' combo.
By the way, I know Xtend+ is banned, I just want to show how AD can lose even with Xt+.
Ace Dragon 00Expand Destroy' vs Deep Chaos 0 Eternal
AD.00E.Ds': 1 Win (1 BF)
Winning percentage: 10%
dC.0.Et: 9 Wins (9 OS)
Winning percentage: 90%
Bad, let me test with Sp'.
Ace Dragon 00Expand Spiral' vs Deep Chaos 0 Eternal
AD.00E.Sp': 3 Wins (3 BF)
Winning percentage: 30%
dC.0.Et: 7 Wins (7 OS)
Winning percentage: 70%
Better at bursting, but all last-second ones.
Ok, definitely outclassed.
Why ace why, You let me down(again)
RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - TheRogueBlader - Sep. 26, 2021
(Sep. 25, 2021 1:05 PM)QGreaterLonginus Wrote: Now I (who is HyperSpriggan's friend) shall test the stuff that HyperSpriggan had wanted to test.
Lost Longinus testing first, please wait a while.
Opposite Spin Test
Lost Longinus 00Expand Xtreme' vs Deep Chaos 00 Eternal
L2.00E.X': 6 Wins (2 KO, 4 BF)
Winning percentage: 60%
dC.00.Et: 4 Wins(4 OS)
Winning percentage: 40%
Deep Chaos had an A Mold God Chip, but still burst many times against an opposite spin opponent.
Someone who can do a better pattern with X' will probably get a better winning percentage.
Legend Spriggan 00Expand Xtreme' vs Deep Chaos 00 Eternal
lS.00E.X': 6 Wins (1 KO, 5 BF)
Winning percentage: 60%
dC.00.Et: 4 Wins (4 OS)
Winning percentage: 40%
Same result as L2, lS had more late-game bursts than L2.
Z Achilles 00Expand Xtreme' vs Drain Fafnir 00 Eternal
zA.00E.X': 3 Wins (1 KO, 2 BF)
Winning percentage: 30%
dF.00.Et: 7 Wins (7 OS)
Winning percentage: 70%
dF has much better burst resistance than dC, plus my Z Achilles has no level chip
Legend Spriggan 00Expand Xtreme' vs Drain Fafnir 00 Eternal
lS.00E.X': 4 Wins (2 KO, 2 BF)
Winning percentage: 40%
dF.00.Et: 6 Wins (6 OS)
Winning percentage: 60%
Slightly better than Z Achilles.
Okay these are the opposite spin test for the day!
Unfortunately, I have neither of the other Longini so I can't test them
L2's performance is similar to lS, but I cannot compare it to zA since dF has better burst resistance.
At least I know lS performs better than a level-chip less zA (the one from cR's RB).
I'm afraid to test same-spin because of the sheer number of bursts that would harm dC's teeth *shudder*.
Oh I remember I have a bX to test (opposite spin)!
Buster Xcalibur 00Expand Quick' vs Drain Fafnir 00 Eternal
bX.00E.Qc': 2 Wins (2 BF)
Winning percentage: 20%
dF.00.Et: 8 Wins (7 OS, 1 KO)
Winning percentage: 80%
bX is horrible in opposite spin
Ok so in opposite spin
lS>zA>bX (with a rubber attack driver)
Actually let me test sX.
Sieg Xcalibur 00Expand Xtreme' vs Drain Fafnir 00 Eternal
sX.00E.X': 6 Wins (6 BF)
Winning percentage: 60%
dF.00.Et: 4 Wins (4 OS)
Winning percentage: 40%
This shocked me, dF went boom boom boom burst, even if it didn't burst it lost almost all its clicks. :o
Ok in opposite spin
sX>lS>zA>bX
And
L2=lS
Now I shall test Ace!
Ace Dragon 00Proof Xtend+ (stamina mode) vs Deep Chaos 0 Eternal
AD.00P.Xt+: 1 Win (1 OS)
Winning percentage: 10%
dC.0.Et: 9 Wins (9 OS)
Winning percentage: 90%
Oh well shouldn't have expected much, now I shall switch the combinations.
Ace Dragon 0 Eternal vs Deep Chaos 00Proof Xtend+
AD.0.Et: 0 Wins ( )
Winning percentage: 0%
dC.00P.Xt+: 10 Wins (10 OS)
Winning percentage: 100%
AD died.
Ok, AD is horrible.
Actually I'll test it on a Destroy' or Spiral' combo.
By the way, I know Xtend+ is banned, I just want to show how AD can lose even with Xt+.
Ace Dragon 00Expand Destroy' vs Deep Chaos 0 Eternal
AD.00E.Ds': 1 Win (1 BF)
Winning percentage: 10%
dC.0.Et: 9 Wins (9 OS)
Winning percentage: 90%
Bad, let me test with Sp'.
Ace Dragon 00Expand Spiral' vs Deep Chaos 0 Eternal
AD.00E.Sp': 3 Wins (3 BF)
Winning percentage: 30%
dC.0.Et: 7 Wins (7 OS)
Winning percentage: 70%
Better at bursting, but all last-second ones.
Ok, definitely outclassed.
Now testing Galaxy Zeus!
Galaxy Zeus 0 Eternal vs Deep Chaos 0 Eternal
gZ.0.Et: 4 Wins (1 OS, 3 BF)
Winning percentage: 33.3%
dC.0.Et: 8 Wins (8 OS)
Winning percentage: 66.6%
gZ burst dC a few times, but had less stamina.
Oh yeah this isn't attack.
I'll put this into a Galazy Zeus testing thread.
Now I will test Galaxy Zeus as an attack type!
It has decent stamina so it should outspin some stuff.
I did a few battles and dC exploded a LOT so I decided not to finish it
Ok that's all for today bye guys.
@(Blank) I shall be your new mentor (btw I never got the Spriggan in the hole thing, what does it mean?)
lol just kidding
Nice tests dude!
RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - GreaterLonginus - Oct. 01, 2021
I've organised the tests TheRogueBlader has done and put it into a google docs.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bkL0C3o-elq8Yx7c5LQthMq8iTVby22oSe8xX8z3NWw
RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - USN - Oct. 01, 2021
(Oct. 01, 2021 10:09 AM)GreaterLonginus Wrote: I've organised the tests TheRogueBlader has done and put it into a google docs.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bkL0C3o-elq8Yx7c5LQthMq8iTVby22oSe8xX8z3NWw
Nice! I think I might get some tests done now that I see that so many people are dedicated!
RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - TheRogueBlader - Oct. 01, 2021
(Oct. 01, 2021 10:09 AM)GreaterLonginus Wrote: I've organised the tests TheRogueBlader has done and put it into a google docs.Thanks man! This will help us keep all the tests very close to eachother! Nice! I’ll be doing some serious testing in the next 3 days since today school ends a bit early and tomorrow is the weekend.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bkL0C3o-elq8Yx7c5LQthMq8iTVby22oSe8xX8z3NWw
The doc looks great! But could you make me an editor GreaterLonginus? Cause I have the “view only” access right now
RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - GreaterLonginus - Oct. 02, 2021
(Oct. 01, 2021 2:59 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote:(Oct. 01, 2021 10:09 AM)GreaterLonginus Wrote: I've organised the tests TheRogueBlader has done and put it into a google docs.Thanks man! This will help us keep all the tests very close to eachother! Nice! I’ll be doing some serious testing in the next 3 days since today school ends a bit early and tomorrow is the weekend.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bkL0C3o-elq8Yx7c5LQthMq8iTVby22oSe8xX8z3NWw
The doc looks great! But could you make me an editor GreaterLonginus? Cause I have the “view only” access right now
Then can you like use the format I used for the testing because it'll look weird when it's different
Ok now everyone can edit it
Random people who see this DO NOT EDIT RANDOMLY OR ELSE
RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - TheRogueBlader - Oct. 02, 2021
(Oct. 02, 2021 3:42 AM)GreaterLonginus Wrote:Now that I’m an editor, I can delete random stuff and any editor can delete random stuff people post. Plus you can remove people from the link if they’re being to bad(Oct. 01, 2021 2:59 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: Thanks man! This will help us keep all the tests very close to eachother! Nice! I’ll be doing some serious testing in the next 3 days since today school ends a bit early and tomorrow is the weekend.
The doc looks great! But could you make me an editor GreaterLonginus? Cause I have the “view only” access right now
Then can you like use the format I used for the testing because it'll look weird when it's different
Ok now everyone can edit it
Random people who see this DO NOT EDIT RANDOMLY OR ELSE
RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - GreaterLonginus - Oct. 02, 2021
(Oct. 02, 2021 3:56 AM)TheRogueBlader Wrote:(Oct. 02, 2021 3:42 AM)GreaterLonginus Wrote: Then can you like use the format I used for the testing because it'll look weird when it's differentNow that I’m an editor, I can delete random stuff and any editor can delete random stuff people post. Plus you can remove people from the link if they’re being to bad
Ok now everyone can edit it
Random people who see this DO NOT EDIT RANDOMLY OR ELSE
I've decided that I'll have some editors and the rest of the people can only view.
Can you PM me your email address so that I can add you in?
RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - TheRogueBlader - Oct. 02, 2021
(Oct. 02, 2021 6:20 AM)GreaterLonginus Wrote:Sure(Oct. 02, 2021 3:56 AM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: Now that I’m an editor, I can delete random stuff and any editor can delete random stuff people post. Plus you can remove people from the link if they’re being to bad
I've decided that I'll have some editors and the rest of the people can only view.
Can you PM me your email address so that I can add you in?
RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - GreaterLonginus - Oct. 07, 2021
Bump
Any testers we need contributors T_T
Btw I’ve done some fun testing with the Buster Xcalibur Octa combo. But i don’t have a level chip and it dies. It can only outspin left spin with atomic.
RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - TheRogueBlader - Oct. 07, 2021
(Oct. 07, 2021 5:11 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote: Bump
Any testers we need contributors T_T
Btw I’ve done some fun testing with the Buster Xcalibur Octa combo. But i don’t have a level chip and it dies. It can only outspin left spin with atomic.
Huh, strange. My z Achilles on Octa is pretty good, I assumed Buster is just more aggressive and heavy. Maybe not, or maybe it’s the Blader. Sometimes with combos it’s some bladers are better with it and some aren’t. Like I’m not very good with twin nemesis on destroy’ but I’m good with the combos I make for an example. Thanks for the help though! Maybe I oughtta use z Achilles instead. Was it just dying by stamina? Or bursting? Or self KO? I’m guessing it bursted.
RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - GreaterLonginus - Oct. 08, 2021
(Oct. 07, 2021 8:47 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote:(Oct. 07, 2021 5:11 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote: Bump
Any testers we need contributors T_T
Btw I’ve done some fun testing with the Buster Xcalibur Octa combo. But i don’t have a level chip and it dies. It can only outspin left spin with atomic.
Huh, strange. My z Achilles on Octa is pretty good, I assumed Buster is just more aggressive and heavy. Maybe not, or maybe it’s the Blader. Sometimes with combos it’s some bladers are better with it and some aren’t. Like I’m not very good with twin nemesis on destroy’ but I’m good with the combos I make for an example. Thanks for the help though! Maybe I oughtta use z Achilles instead. Was it just dying by stamina? Or bursting? Or self KO? I’m guessing it bursted.
Outspin
bX was wobbling horribly and scraped on octa
RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - TheRogueBlader - Oct. 08, 2021
(Oct. 08, 2021 1:43 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote:Ah, ok. So just to get an idea:(Oct. 07, 2021 8:47 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: Huh, strange. My z Achilles on Octa is pretty good, I assumed Buster is just more aggressive and heavy. Maybe not, or maybe it’s the Blader. Sometimes with combos it’s some bladers are better with it and some aren’t. Like I’m not very good with twin nemesis on destroy’ but I’m good with the combos I make for an example. Thanks for the help though! Maybe I oughtta use z Achilles instead. Was it just dying by stamina? Or bursting? Or self KO? I’m guessing it bursted.
Outspin
bX was wobbling horribly and scraped on octa
Did it hit hard?
How close was it to bursting?
What mode was it in?
Did it get knocked back from hits a lot?
RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - GreaterLonginus - Oct. 09, 2021
(Oct. 08, 2021 3:04 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote:It hits one moderate hit then stars wobbling and dies.(Oct. 08, 2021 1:43 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote: OutspinAh, ok. So just to get an idea:
bX was wobbling horribly and scraped on octa
Did it hit hard?
How close was it to bursting?
What mode was it in?
Did it get knocked back from hits a lot?
It didn't have enough stamina to be hit properly lol so it didn't lose clicks.
Normal mode
No as a few seconds after the first hit it's already scraping and can't get hit properly
RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - DedZeY - May. 07, 2022
Tried to make a ko attack combo with z achillies
I didn't find a thread for z achilles so i will post my test results here
Keep in mind i did 20 rounds for each test
Z achilles 0 turn quick vs drain fafnir(got metal chip) 00 hxt+'
Z achilles win : 20% (all ko)
Drain fafnir win : 80%(14 os 2 burst)
It honestly did worse than expected against drain
Thought it would get at least 7 to 8 ko's but it got 4
Z achilles 0 turn quick vs deep chaos 00 hxt+'
Z achilles win : (6 bf , 3 ko)
Deep chaos win : (all os)
Did well to burst deep chaos but still didn't get many ko's
Honestly it might be because deep chaos's teeth are bad (maybe mine was manufactured badly idk) but i dont think z Achilles is that good as a ko attacker.
RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - DedZeY - Jan. 23, 2023
Was bored so did some ko attack testings with buster xcalibur
Buster xcalibur 00turn xtreme’ vs deep chaos 0bump wave’
Buster: 4 burst 3 ko
Chaos: 3 os
Buster win%: 70%
Buster was able to burst deep chaos pretty easily here
Vs drain
Buster xcalibur 00turn xtreme’ vs drain fafnir 0bump wave’
Buster: 5 ko’s
Drain: 5 os
Buster win%: 50%
Really really surprised me here, as from what ive heard it usually does pretty bad opp spin
it felt very inconsistent as it usually needs to hit drain with the sword pretty early on to ko it, but seemed to be able to do that a surprising amout of times
Vs arc bahamut
Buster xcalibur 00turn xtreme’ vs arc bahamut 0bump wave’
Buster: 2 ko’s 1 burst
Arc: 7 os
Buster xcalibur win% : 30
RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - TheRogueBlader - Jan. 23, 2023
I think just because BXc.00T.X’ is a 54 gram monster and the wave’ combos are pretty small it makes sense. Generally something like Geist could be used for defense cause of weight and the size of it. I’m surprised by arc though, that’s interesting.
RE: General Attack Layers Testing and Discussion Burst Limited - DedZeY - Jan. 24, 2023
(Jan. 23, 2023 4:14 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: I think just because BXc.00T.X’ is a 54 gram monster and the wave’ combos are pretty small it makes sense. Generally something like Geist could be used for defense cause of weight and the size of it. I’m surprised by arc though, that’s interesting.
That is a good point, its just that sadly i dont have geist
Y know what i might buy geist