(Oct. 24, 2018  1:12 PM)Dt20000 Wrote: And yet, the negatives provide very little evidence, other than the fact that the Beyblades lack Metal. Hasbro is finally going a unique route and creating original Beyblades, and then everyone starts hating.

(Oct. 24, 2018  1:26 PM)KinkoUsagi Wrote:

(Oct. 24, 2018  12:08 PM)Jinbee Wrote:

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See, I can understand why you wouldn't be angry, that last paragraph sums it up perfectly. Back then this exact situation happened to me and I felt so left out and super disappointed by the announcement of light unchangable 4D wheels.

If you have access to imports of the actual thing there's less reasons to be angry besides inaccuracies which Hasbro hasn't been doing that well of anyway. I'd imagine Hasbro only bladers who want a beyblade that either feels like an authentic Cho Z or wanted a beyblade comparable to TT's line would be upset.

I completely understand this perspective, honestly. I'm fortunate to have access to both and don't have that previous experience with Hasbro because this is my first collection in a long time (I skipped the entire metal series).

I'd say Hasbro has made a lot of strong choices over the course of Switchstrike, concluding with the amazing Tournament Collection, which is likely better than any set TT has produced for Burst (bold statement, I know). This is the beginning of a new line, let's see where it goes and be optimistic, for the most part. This is coming from someone who has been hugely critical of Hasbro in the past. I do feel they have a plan with this new line and must've known there would be a negative reaction to omitting metal.

and if I'm wrong, which I likely could be, I'll eat my words. I just don't want people writing off an entire line because it's vastly different than what they anticipated.

(Oct. 24, 2018  1:35 PM)Jinbee Wrote: I feel like if Hasbro is aware of the potential backlash, they're either planning on giving us the real thing later or that they have confidence on whatever gimmicks they're going to pull out.

(Oct. 24, 2018  1:43 PM)kjrules17 Wrote:

(Oct. 24, 2018  1:35 PM)Jinbee Wrote: I feel like if Hasbro is aware of the potential backlash, they're either planning on giving us the real thing later or that they have confidence on whatever gimmicks they're going to pull out.

Even though I am a Hasbruh, I hope Hasbro gets backlash for this. Because if you think about it, this isn't what we wanted. I don't think anyone got up one day and wanted Hasbro to sacrifice the entire gimmick of a toyline for another one that probably won't be good (I'll test it though for sure). So for me, I really hope Hasbro can release a "Hyperblades Burst" or a "Beyblade Burst Legends" or something. That's what we really need. Chances are it'll be several months from now, but at least, we could get what we originally should've gotten. But it all depends on how the audience reacts to Turbo, you know? Also, just to let you and everyone else participating in this discussion know, I am in no way trying to start an argument or anything toxic. I just wanted to share my thoughts, that's all.

(Oct. 24, 2018  1:31 PM)kjrules17 Wrote:

(Oct. 24, 2018  1:12 PM)Dt20000 Wrote: And yet, the negatives provide very little evidence, other than the fact that the Beyblades lack Metal. Hasbro is finally going a unique route and creating original Beyblades, and then everyone starts hating.

I gotta add my two cents to this Dt. Remember BeyWheelz, BeyRaiderz, and BeyWarriors? If I'm not mistaken, that was Hasbro creating original Beys, but that's something entirely different. For the regular toyline, Hasbro is essentially supposed to take what Takara Tomy releases and release it in other countries, right? Now with Burst, the Hasbro line has undergone several changes, some more excusable than others. Like the change of teeth to slopes. In some cases, slopes made the Layer better, like Hasbro's Jormuntor J2 compared to Takara Tomy's Jail Jormungand. In other cases, not so much, like Hasbro's Nepstrius compared to Takara Tomy's Neptune. So imo, while changing teeth to slopes wasn't what we wanted, it's not too bad. But this? Nah fam. It's basically Metal Fury 2.0. Hasbro already keeps their stuff under wraps for the most part all the way up until the actual release. Bc of this, people might have their expectations set a little high. Combined with Hasbro actually doing a pretty good job with Evolution, it's not bad to think they would do the same with Turbo. Of course though, as we got more and more info, things didn't look that way. So, to get to the point, if you take the main gimmick for an entire toyline, change it for the counterpart, and expect people to not be upset, that's kinda crazy. Tbh, I've thought of switching to TT, but at this point, it's too late for ya boi. Even though TT Burst is awesome, if I were to collect it, I'd want to get every release, that's just not gonna happen rn. Coupled with the fact that I have most of the Hasbro releases, I gotta stick with Hasbro. Doesn't mean I'm going to defend them for their actions, especially with this. But hey, while there's probably not much hope with how these parts are going to perform, somebody's gotta test them. If I gotta be that guy, hey, I'll do it.

(Oct. 24, 2018  1:52 PM)Jinbee Wrote: Even though I really dislike their strategy, I think it would be fair if Hasbro Bladers did get a taste of actual Cho Z metal beyblades.

(Oct. 24, 2018  1:55 PM)Dt20000 Wrote: And if I can, I’m gonna test them

(Oct. 24, 2018  12:29 PM)RedPanda2 Wrote: bad decisions like turbo are why hasbro is laying off 5,400 workers during an expansion of the US economy 

tone deaf mismanagement

totally cheaping out is not the same as optimizing customer value

these new hasbro turbo beys are a total disgrace to our hobby. a new low. 

if you own hasbro beys, stop buying them and switch to TT

hasbro wV is 10g
let that sink in...

(Oct. 24, 2018  3:54 PM)Jman jman Wrote:

(Oct. 24, 2018  12:29 PM)RedPanda2 Wrote: bad decisions like turbo are why hasbro is laying off 5,400 workers during an expansion of the US economy 

tone deaf mismanagement

totally cheaping out is not the same as optimizing customer value

these new hasbro turbo beys are a total disgrace to our hobby. a new low. 

if you own hasbro beys, stop buying them and switch to TT

hasbro wV is 10g
let that sink in...

This is the only time I will agree with you.

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What about Buster xcalius and brutal luinor they have to have metal right.

(Oct. 24, 2018  5:54 PM)DrainBladerAMVS Wrote: Let's just wait, V4 is getting another release with A4 in a set, this may just be for slingshot

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Also, a lot of people thought that Hasbro would mess up Beyblade Burst Evolution but looked how that turned out, sure we got some wrong parts with N3 and StrikeV3.

(Oct. 24, 2018  6:06 PM)BeyCrafter Wrote:

(Oct. 24, 2018  5:54 PM)DrainBladerAMVS Wrote: Let's just wait, V4 is getting another release with A4 in a set, this may just be for slingshot

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Also, a lot of people thought that Hasbro would mess up Beyblade Burst Evolution but looked how that turned out, sure we got some wrong parts with N3 and StrikeV3.

The box for the Rail Rush set has Slingshock on the front. I wouldn't get your hopes up.

(Aug. 22, 2018  5:10 PM)BeyCrafter Wrote:

(Aug. 22, 2018  10:03 AM)TheLVJ Wrote: After 1 year of haphazard reshuffling/omission of parts and altered paint schemes, we got a solid year of mostly faithful adaptations. We're suddenly back to this nonsense. Has there been any official mention of metal included on the new beys?

I'm apprehensive...

I think it's obvious there's metal on the layers.

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(Oct. 24, 2018  10:31 PM)KinkoUsagi Wrote: Just purchased them. Honestly, I haven't tested them at all, but from strictly an aesthetic standpoint, 3/4 are really nice. Wonder Valtryek V4 is very different from the original but still very nice. Z Achilles A4, my favourite of the bunch, is also super nice and crisp. Only issue is the driver, which lost the gimmick, which... sucks. They really made sure these two, in particular, had plenty of colours and details. Forneus is pretty nice, as well. The silver paint is shiny and the rest is pretty simple, however, the driver is awkward looking and with Forneus, it's even more awkward looking from the side. Finally, Luinor is ugly and cheap looking. It's almost like something you'd find as a prize from a Happy Meal. It's missing many details, the driver looks clunky and just unappealing. Easily the worst of the 4.

Highly recommend watch Zankye's videos for details and seeing them in action. So far, they're pretty OK.

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