(Nov. 25, 2020  8:45 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  8:42 PM)Zeutron Wrote: Well the thing is, Wyvern has just as good a chance as Phoenix or Genesis. We know it has to be one of those three since it’s a legend bey. Yes, Lucifer the end has a free spin gimmick but it’s located on a sub ring of the limit break base/ring whereas a Wyvern bey would have a free super ring. Additionally Deathscyther doesn’t seem to be retaining its past gimmick so maybe the same can be said for Wyvern. Also, you gotta admit, those are some fire shirts.

It has less of a chance actually due to Wakiya already having a large non blading role. Also, what about that Doomscizor sihhloute screamed "I don't have double strike"

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You can't see if it does or not at this angle my g

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:01 PM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  8:45 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: It has less of a chance actually due to Wakiya already having a large non blading role. Also, what about that Doomscizor sihhloute screamed "I don't have double strike"

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You can't see if it does or not at this angle my g

Particularly it’s description which is “metal slash.”

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:15 PM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: I don't want to come off as a killjoy, I really don't. But can we wait until we have more information before we get onto each other's throats on whether this is Wyvern, Phoenix or Genesis.

I'm fine with speculation, but now it feels like that's all this thread has been at this point and it does admittedly get a little tiring to check this thread, only to keep seeing the same:
"It's Wyvern"
"No it's not!"
"Yes it is!"
"No it's not!"
"Yes it is!"
"No it's not!"

I know I'm not exactly helping by complaining on this thread and I'll admit I might be overreacting, but I'd rather just wait until we get more news or leaks on this release. Thank you.

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:15 PM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: I don't want to come off as a killjoy, I really don't. But can we please wait until we have more information before we get onto each other's throats on whether this is Wyvern, Phoenix, Genesis, Uranus or something new.

I'm fine with speculation, but now it feels like that's all this thread has been at this point and it does admittedly get a little tiring to check this thread, only to keep seeing the same:
"It's Wyvern"
"No it's not!"
"Yes it is!"
"No it's not!"
"Yes it is!"
"No it's not!"

I know I'm not exactly helping by complaining on this thread and I'll admit I might be overreacting, but I'd rather just wait until we get more news or leaks on this release. Thank you.

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:19 PM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:15 PM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: I don't want to come off as a killjoy, I really don't. But can we please wait until we have more information before we get onto each other's throats on whether this is Wyvern, Phoenix, Genesis, Uranus or something new.

I'm fine with speculation, but now it feels like that's all this thread has been at this point and it does admittedly get a little tiring to check this thread, only to keep seeing the same:
"It's Wyvern"
"No it's not!"
"Yes it is!"
"No it's not!"
"Yes it is!"
"No it's not!"

I know I'm not exactly helping by complaining on this thread and I'll admit I might be overreacting, but I'd rather just wait until we get more news or leaks on this release. Thank you.

Yeah you’re right, I apologize about that.

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:18 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:15 PM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: I don't want to come off as a killjoy, I really don't. But can we wait until we have more information before we get onto each other's throats on whether this is Wyvern, Phoenix or Genesis.

I'm fine with speculation, but now it feels like that's all this thread has been at this point and it does admittedly get a little tiring to check this thread, only to keep seeing the same:
"It's Wyvern"
"No it's not!"
"Yes it is!"
"No it's not!"
"Yes it is!"
"No it's not!"

I know I'm not exactly helping by complaining on this thread and I'll admit I might be overreacting, but I'd rather just wait until we get more news or leaks on this release. Thank you.

If you don't wanna see the discussion you don't have to keep going too this thread. Obviously seeing that i posted in the latest shouldn't trigger the reaction that there's probably news here and you should check it out you know? Also you're kinda discrediting the actually situation by devaluing it to just essentially looking like 2 kids whining. We're just going over the possibility of a Wyvron being in this boster on not. Thank you, have a greet day.

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:20 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:18 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: If you don't wanna see the discussion you don't have to keep going too this thread. Obviously seeing that i posted in the latest shouldn't trigger the reaction that there's probably news here and you should check it out you know? Also you're kinda discrediting the actually situation by devaluing it to just essentially looking like 2 kids whining. We're just going over the possibility of a Wyvron being in this boster on not. Thank you, have a greet day.

Let's be honest. This thread is meant for news or the actual product itself, so going off on the same old speculation which we have discussed for a long time literally gets us no where. Pretty sure that's why a speculation and wishing thread was made, to both fuel speculation and quench any arguments by possibly calling it a wish. I agree with LOL-y Rancher.

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:22 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:20 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: Let's be honest. This thread is meant for news or the actual product itself, so going off on the same old speculation which we have discussed for a long time literally gets us no where. Pretty sure that's why a speculation and wishing thread was made, to both fuel speculation and quench any arguments by possibly calling it a wish. I agree with LOL-y Rancher.

This isn't speculation though. Just over the possibility of Wyvron being in this booster or not. Speculation would be theorizing about it and guessing and hoping and stuff like that. This is a discussion about the boosters contents.

(Nov. 25, 2020  8:14 PM)蒼井バルト Wrote: We should not forget that we have already seen Wakiya in the latest episode, so Wakiya is going to own Wyvern in the anime too.

Takara Tomy would have no benefit from showing a character in the anime that won't have a Beyblade.

TT's final aim is improving its sales!

And we also know that Wakiya has never been a too strong character, so Asahi brothers could battle with him just for training or fun.

(Nov. 25, 2020  8:15 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: I highly doubt Wakiya would own this bey.

(Nov. 25, 2020  8:29 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  8:14 PM)蒼井バルト Wrote: We should not forget that we have already seen Wakiya in the latest episode, so Wakiya is going to own Wyvern in the anime too.

Takara Tomy would have no benefit from showing a character in the anime that won't have a Beyblade.

TT's final aim is improving its sales!

And we also know that Wakiya has never been a too strong character, so Asahi brothers could battle with him just for training or fun.

Who said Wakiya is going to battle just because he's here? The main cast of bladers for Sparking has already been established, so I'm pretty sure Wakiya is just here to sponsor WBBA stuff. Not to mention that if we do have a tag team tournament coming up, Wakiya would make the number uneven. Don't even get started on Daina either, because the number of teams would be uneven after that.

Pretty sure he's just there for show.

(Nov. 25, 2020  8:32 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  8:29 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: Who said Wakiya is going to battle just because he's here? The main cast of bladers for Sparking has already been established, so I'm pretty sure Wakiya is just here to sponsor WBBA stuff. Not to mention that if we do have a tag team tournament coming up, Wakiya would make the number uneven. Don't even get started on Daina either, because the number of teams would be uneven after that.

Pretty sure he's just there for show.

It’s almost like he’s there because he’s popular and they want money

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Guess what: they’ve got money with the shirts (which sold out very quickly) and people watching the anime (which has ads on). Meaning: they don’t need waste resources on a new Wyvron!

(Nov. 25, 2020  8:42 PM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  8:32 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: It’s almost like he’s there because he’s popular and they want money

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Guess what: they’ve got money with the shirts (which sold out very quickly) and people watching the anime (which has ads on). Meaning: they don’t need waste resources on a new Wyvron!

Well the thing is, Wyvern has just as good a chance as Phoenix or Genesis. We know it has to be one of those three since it’s a legend bey. Yes, Lucifer the end has a free spin gimmick but it’s located on a sub ring of the limit break base/ring whereas a Wyvern bey would have a free super ring. Additionally Deathscyther doesn’t seem to be retaining its past gimmick so maybe the same can be said for Wyvern. Also, you gotta admit, those are some fire shirts.

(Nov. 25, 2020  8:45 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  8:42 PM)Zeutron Wrote: Well the thing is, Wyvern has just as good a chance as Phoenix or Genesis. We know it has to be one of those three since it’s a legend bey. Yes, Lucifer the end has a free spin gimmick but it’s located on a sub ring of the limit break base/ring whereas a Wyvern bey would have a free super ring. Additionally Deathscyther doesn’t seem to be retaining its past gimmick so maybe the same can be said for Wyvern. Also, you gotta admit, those are some fire shirts.

It has less of a chance actually due to Wakiya already having a large non blading role. Also, what about that Doomscizor sihhloute screamed "I don't have double strike"

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You can't see if it does or not at this angle my g

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:01 PM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  8:45 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: It has less of a chance actually due to Wakiya already having a large non blading role. Also, what about that Doomscizor sihhloute screamed "I don't have double strike"

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You can't see if it does or not at this angle my g

Particularly it’s description which is “metal slash.”

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:06 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:01 PM)Zeutron Wrote: Particularly it’s description which is “metal slash.”

Implying it could have a metal sycthe, or another scythe with metal on it. That doesn't deconfirm or confirm anything.

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:18 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:15 PM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: I don't want to come off as a killjoy, I really don't. But can we wait until we have more information before we get onto each other's throats on whether this is Wyvern, Phoenix or Genesis.

I'm fine with speculation, but now it feels like that's all this thread has been at this point and it does admittedly get a little tiring to check this thread, only to keep seeing the same:
"It's Wyvern"
"No it's not!"
"Yes it is!"
"No it's not!"
"Yes it is!"
"No it's not!"

I know I'm not exactly helping by complaining on this thread and I'll admit I might be overreacting, but I'd rather just wait until we get more news or leaks on this release. Thank you.

If you don't wanna see the discussion you don't have to keep going too this thread. Obviously seeing that i posted in the latest shouldn't trigger the reaction that there's probably news here and you should check it out you know? Also you're kinda discrediting the actually situation by devaluing it to just essentially looking like 2 kids whining. We're just going over the possibility of a Wyvron being in this boster on not. Thank you, have a greet day.

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:26 PM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:18 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: If you don't wanna see the discussion you don't have to keep going too this thread. Obviously seeing that i posted in the latest shouldn't trigger the reaction that there's probably news here and you should check it out you know? Also you're kinda discrediting the actually situation by devaluing it to just essentially looking like 2 kids whining. We're just going over the possibility of a Wyvron being in this boster on not. Thank you, have a greet day.

If I come off as condescending, I truly do apologize. It's just that I've seen people getting a little to heated on whether it's Wyvern, Phoenix or Genesis and whilst speculation is not bad, I don't want it to completely derail the thread.

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:25 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:22 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: This isn't speculation though. Just over the possibility of Wyvron being in this booster or not. Speculation would be theorizing about it and guessing and hoping and stuff like that. This is a discussion about the boosters contents.

Not even gonna argue with your logic, but this is still speculation as we have had no confirmation that this is a Wyvern yet. Just people saying, it COULD be Wyvern, Phoenix, Genesis or those other options. Your definition of speculation literally fits the bill for all of this thread has been conversing about. Wait until we actually have at least some NEW information about the booster's contents other than just, "Old Rival Defense type".

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:26 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  8:14 PM)蒼井バルト Wrote: We should not forget that we have already seen Wakiya in the latest episode, so Wakiya is going to own Wyvern in the anime too.

Takara Tomy would have no benefit from showing a character in the anime that won't have a Beyblade.

TT's final aim is improving its sales!

And we also know that Wakiya has never been a too strong character, so Asahi brothers could battle with him just for training or fun.

(Nov. 25, 2020  8:15 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: I highly doubt Wakiya would own this bey.

(Nov. 25, 2020  8:29 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: Who said Wakiya is going to battle just because he's here? The main cast of bladers for Sparking has already been established, so I'm pretty sure Wakiya is just here to sponsor WBBA stuff. Not to mention that if we do have a tag team tournament coming up, Wakiya would make the number uneven. Don't even get started on Daina either, because the number of teams would be uneven after that.

Pretty sure he's just there for show.

(Nov. 25, 2020  8:32 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: It’s almost like he’s there because he’s popular and they want money

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Guess what: they’ve got money with the shirts (which sold out very quickly) and people watching the anime (which has ads on). Meaning: they don’t need waste resources on a new Wyvron!

(Nov. 25, 2020  8:42 PM)Zeutron Wrote: Well the thing is, Wyvern has just as good a chance as Phoenix or Genesis. We know it has to be one of those three since it’s a legend bey. Yes, Lucifer the end has a free spin gimmick but it’s located on a sub ring of the limit break base/ring whereas a Wyvern bey would have a free super ring. Additionally Deathscyther doesn’t seem to be retaining its past gimmick so maybe the same can be said for Wyvern. Also, you gotta admit, those are some fire shirts.

(Nov. 25, 2020  8:45 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: It has less of a chance actually due to Wakiya already having a large non blading role. Also, what about that Doomscizor sihhloute screamed "I don't have double strike"

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You can't see if it does or not at this angle my g

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:01 PM)Zeutron Wrote: Particularly it’s description which is “metal slash.”

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:06 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Implying it could have a metal sycthe, or another scythe with metal on it. That doesn't deconfirm or confirm anything.

This is discussion. Related to speculation yes, but not speculating.

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:30 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:26 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: This is discussion. Related to speculation yes, but not speculating.

This is literally SPECULATION. A SPECULATION DISCUSSION, but whatever. If it's gonna continue like this, we should probably take it to the designated thread for it, instead of going somewhat off topic.

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:19 PM)Zeutron Wrote: Yeah you’re right, I apologize about that.

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:31 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:30 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: This is literally SPECULATION. A SPECULATION DISCUSSION, but whatever. If it's gonna continue like this, we should probably take it to the designated thread for it, instead of going somewhat off topic.

Yes, its discussing speculation. Not inherently speculating.

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I dont think its that hard to see we were going over the chances of Wyvron being in this booster, based on a multitude of variables. Basically: You're wrong. Anyways, back on topic.

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:38 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  9:31 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Yes, its discussing speculation. Not inherently speculating.

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I dont think its that hard to see we were going over the chances of Wyvron being in this booster, based on a multitude of variables. Basically: You're wrong. Anyways, back on topic.

Your logic makes little sense, and that 'you're wrong' statement does not help your chances, but it does not really matter in the end. As long as we don't dip any further into this speculation at least until new information comes into this thread, I'm good.

(Nov. 30, 2020  5:56 PM)DarkEvilAphmau Wrote: It’s A new Phoenix BEYBLADE Phi return?

(Nov. 30, 2020  6:24 PM)PlayMaker:Axel Wrote: Am I the only one who wants a new Kerbeus? That line was kinda cool, the gimmicks and the designs were great.
Whatever that new bey will be, it won't be in the anime for sure, just like these december and february beys.