(May. 18, 2019  7:17 PM)Valtgtchoz Wrote: Ken is one of the most innocent and generous characters of burst, and he, I can say with utmost certainty, was better that Kyle in many ways. Ken is one of my most favourite character for these qualities. Kyle, on the other hand, was not generous. He was nothing like Ken. And he should’ve been like him, for he was the owner of the same bey. I didn’t care about the character so much and definitely didn’t see him a successor to Ken.

(May. 18, 2019  6:27 PM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote:

(May. 18, 2019  4:58 PM)Strider Xanthos Wrote: So Turbo episode 18 on youtube yesterday. Yeah, a lot of people don't like Ken now for some reason. Someone said they liked Kyle over Ken, that's perfectly fine, but I've seen people say Ken wasn't even a good character. Thoughts?

I liked both fine, I prefer Kensuke though.

Kensuke just had more time to shine and grow IMO and had some amazing character development. At first, I thought he'd just be a comic-relief but he really surprised me when they made him one of the most sympathetic and likeable characters.

Kyle is fine. He's the sly, "pawn of the big dog" (no pun intended) type of character who looks like a goblin and makes funny faces but I was disappointed with his unmask reveal, since he's actually weaker without his mask IMO.

(May. 18, 2019  11:06 PM)Strider Xanthos Wrote:

(May. 18, 2019  6:27 PM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: I liked both fine, I prefer Kensuke though.

Kensuke just had more time to shine and grow IMO and had some amazing character development. At first, I thought he'd just be a comic-relief but he really surprised me when they made him one of the most sympathetic and likeable characters.

Kyle is fine. He's the sly, "pawn of the big dog" (no pun intended) type of character who looks like a goblin and makes funny faces but I was disappointed with his unmask reveal, since he's actually weaker without his mask IMO.

Yeah, Ken even did better against Lui than I thought he did.
I wouldn't say he's weaker without his mask, its just the one time he took the battle seriously, it was against Free and a struggling resonance upgrade Aiga. I feel like if he got more battles in between the interim such as against Suoh, a Fubuki rematch, and his layer could counter Howling Bite

(May. 18, 2019  11:33 PM)BoogietheBlader Wrote:

(May. 18, 2019  11:06 PM)Strider Xanthos Wrote: Yeah, Ken even did better against Lui than I thought he did.
I wouldn't say he's weaker without his mask, its just the one time he took the battle seriously, it was against Free and a struggling resonance upgrade Aiga. I feel like if he got more battles in between the interim such as against Suoh, a Fubuki rematch, and his layer could counter Howling Bite

KYLE DIDN'T EVEN DO ANYTHING! He was a disapointing villan. Ken develped as a person and had emotion. Kyle was useless and overhyped.

(May. 18, 2019  11:52 PM)XSabxManiacX Wrote:

(May. 18, 2019  11:33 PM)BoogietheBlader Wrote: KYLE DIDN'T EVEN DO ANYTHING! He was a disapointing villan. Ken develped as a person and had emotion. Kyle was useless and overhyped.

You should have seen Kyle in the manga, then. They had a backstory for him on why he was initially strong. He was much mote focused on the manga

(Jun. 23, 2019  12:02 PM)Beynote Wrote: I know I am reviving this thread

And both Ken and Kyle suck

(Jun. 23, 2019  4:22 PM)IronWebSlinger Wrote: SPOILERSI really hate aiga he’s very annoying and just has main character powers unlike Valt who trained for 2 seasons to become champion, aiga did it in like half a season.

(Jun. 23, 2019  6:09 PM)Beynote Wrote:

(Jun. 23, 2019  4:22 PM)IronWebSlinger Wrote: SPOILERSI really hate aiga he’s very annoying and just has main character powers unlike Valt who trained for 2 seasons to become champion, aiga did it in like half a season.

So what?
That’s just further proof that aiga is a hell of a strong Beyblader and he is the ultimate champion!

(Jun. 23, 2019  6:58 PM)God Dragruler Wrote:

(Jun. 23, 2019  6:09 PM)Beynote Wrote: So what?
That’s just further proof that aiga is a hell of a strong Beyblader and he is the ultimate champion!

I don't have anything against aiga actually like him a bit at the end . but aiga did all this because of plot armor theirs alot of character that's been showcase to be better than him overall but never achieve that.  they whole he got better in mere months just by fighting scrubs before fighting the big guys is kind of stupid he became world class bladers in only 15 episode with a background of knowing nothing about beyblade even if the so call his a genius is used that's not possible you at least need 1 in a half year to get the hang of it . that's the reason why aiga is probably the most hated main character of beyblade. if the had give him one more season he would have been a very good main character


I agree with you completely, i did like him near the end, i think just needed to give aiga more time to be the main character so we could see more of his story it feels like his story moved very fast. For Example at the start of the series ,when Aiga beat lui, i believe aiga probably could have beaten lui but he did this in like his first weeks or months of being a blader , while lui has been awesome at blading for a long time, i believe aiga would have really been able to beat lui near the mid/end of cho z, no the first arc.

(Jun. 23, 2019  6:58 PM)God Dragruler Wrote:

(Jun. 23, 2019  6:09 PM)Beynote Wrote: So what?
That’s just further proof that aiga is a hell of a strong Beyblader and he is the ultimate champion!

I don't have anything against aiga actually like him a bit at the end . but aiga did all this because of plot armor theirs alot of character that's been showcase to be better than him overall but never achieve that.  they whole he got better in mere months just by fighting scrubs before fighting the big guys is kind of stupid he became world class bladers in only 15 episode with a background of knowing nothing about beyblade even if the so call his a genius is used that's not possible you at least need 1 in a half year to get the hang of it . that's the reason why aiga is probably the most hated main character of beyblade. if the had give him one more season he would have been a very good main character

(Jun. 23, 2019  3:58 PM)Beynote Wrote: 1. He was weak
2. He was boring, in my opinion
3. He didn’t live up to my expectations

(Jun. 23, 2019  6:09 PM)Beynote Wrote:

(Jun. 23, 2019  4:22 PM)IronWebSlinger Wrote: SPOILERSI really hate aiga he’s very annoying and just has main character powers unlike Valt who trained for 2 seasons to become champion, aiga did it in like half a season.

So what?
That’s just further proof that aiga is a hell of a strong Beyblader and he is the ultimate champion!

(Jun. 24, 2019  1:03 AM)Okanie Wrote: I think it has more to do than just that. The anime did not really keep Aiga’s character growth consistent and was constantly jumping all over the place. While he does have natural skill and talent as a blader, we only really see that during the Longinus cup where he really was thinking up strategies on how to beat his opponents. And while he did lose to a lot of the rivals in the beyqueen arc—that wasn’t really growth for him? He resorted to a dark resonance which was way prolonged than it should have been, in my opinion, as it just basically... tried to cover all of the flaws in Aiga that were there to begin with. Also, Aiga was usually able to defeat an opponent in the second matches along with them not being as high staked as they were in Valt’s story. It never felt as though Aiga was really pushed into a corner, and if it was— for the longest time it’d resort to dark resonance. Another thing to point out, was that no one could really talk or get through to Aiga. He’d bat away anyone’s opinion that didn’t fit his own and if it didn’t go his way he’d just... run off. For example, it’s understandable as to why Aiga didn’t join the beyclub at Fubuki’s request— that’s fine! He doesn’t have to. However, expecting them and the rebel bey club to just drop everything and train him is a different story— even if they offered him. He also wasn’t as remorseful for a ton of his actions nor to what happened to Achilles as opposed to his mangacounterpart.

But don’t take this as me hating on Aiga (I actually love all the characters in beyburst so it’s really difficult for me to hate any of them), just a few of the flaws that I see in Aiga’s character development.

(Jun. 24, 2019  1:34 AM)XSabxManiacX Wrote:

(Jun. 23, 2019  6:09 PM)Beynote Wrote: So what?
That’s just further proof that aiga is a hell of a strong Beyblader and he is the ultimate champion!

Becoming strong with no logic? Champions arent like that lol

Ive seen basketball players who are very great, but that doesnt poof from nowhere. And unlike Aiga, people actually appreciate these players because they practice and had evidence of improving to be where they are. Aiga becoming strong for no reason is just lazy writing and bad characterization

(Jun. 24, 2019  2:22 AM)XSabxManiacX Wrote: If Aiga did practice off-screen (which is most likely the plausible explanation), then that just makes me doubt the writers a lot. And Im not saying its like a backstory thing; you simply dont go “Okay let me present you a champion protagonist and oh, by the way, they practiced waaaaay before the season premier so dont complain. Thank you”

(Jun. 24, 2019  2:17 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: #Strider Xanthos  you do realize he did all that an less than a year right without having any knowledge about bey blade before right it? It doesn't matter it the showcase hom training your ignoring the time frame he became this strong your using the whole his talented guess what his not the only one who's talented in the show unlike him the actually knew about beyblade from the beginning the had far more training than him. The fact that his drop so fast proves that they went to fast with him . let's not forget he has some  inconsistent an some of the battle  you pointed he which he had to lose some  to actually try to give him build up which Doesnt really help when you have that kind of background story of zero experience prior meeting valt . Aiga needed to season of build up. Instead of 0 to a 100. You don't see a kid that doesn't know anything about soccer ,tennis or basketball become as strong or stronger than top class athletes in mere months it will take time.  Alot of peolpe seems to ignore the fact that aiga getting strong in that time frame doesn't make sense and the keep saying that he actually so what the other don't train hardet than him ? You don't see that with Tyson , gingka or zyro even drum right now is getting.a better build than aiga . But whatever if you think thats a good thing and want to ignore the flaws than good for you.

(Jun. 24, 2019  3:13 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: Again like I said of you want try to cover the flaws by saying he has a different growth that's fine by me time was Clearly use in burst sone characters took some time beat one character you always need to showcase time that's part of characters growth. And about they way you explain why he was drop look at valt could've easily end it with season 2 and completely change the cast but he was for s3 and s4 so yea aiga could've still be the main for s4 theirs something call create new op characters like phi  the original and mfb also had main who had reach the top but the create new threat. Wait you think aiga os the only beyblade character to get criticize lol Every beyblade anime had their flaws original or mfb and zero aiga isn't first and wont be the last  lol . In fact all anime , manga , light Novel and comics characters will get criticize if it's not consistent  I've seen characters that was showcase even worse than what beyblade character has. And by the way all main character has plot armor. No main character is going to end in his show without being at the top it doesnt matter if the rivals is better than him/her it's just how the present it that makes it good or not. Anyway lets move on this discussing this won go anywhere.

(Jun. 24, 2019  3:37 AM)Okanie Wrote: I don't get where you get the idea that he was self-loathing? Aiga has been anything other than a self-loathing character (only when Achilles broke)-- if anything on the beyqueen arc he was frustrated and obsessed with winning. Not self-loathing. Also he wasn't really up against the wall in the beyqueen battles? Like sure his ego and pride may be hurt badly, but he wasn't in danger of getting kicked off the ship yet. Honestly, it did seem like he suddenly got a boost of energy-- not saying that there's anything wrong with natural talent-- but there wasn't that feeling of passion towards beyblade until near the ending of s3. To the audience it does feel like he just randomly got stronger without having to strive too hard for it.

Aiga hardly listens to people. Like only in the Longinus and after he got to making Cho-Z Achilles did he actually consider what other people are saying-- but in all honesty, Aiga did things on his own whim. The only person he did listen to at all, was Shu because Shu wasn't soft on the kid. The kid didn't even listen to his own dad, and Shu actually had to snap at him and not play along with Aiga's whim. The whole dark resonance arc completely took away the flaw that Aiga had in the beginning which was his arrogance-- that's why his character was so inconsistent in the anime. They never went over the fact of him getting over that arrogance or ever addressing it and instead hides under the veil of dark resonance. So no, the arc doesn't make sense and just made Aiga didn't seem like... Aiga, even after the dark resonance arc.

Aiga as a main character for burst has a ton of flaws in his character development-- it's impossible to hide under the idea of him being naturally talent at the sport. Even if a person is gifted-- they still have to work for it to polish and improve on it, in which we hardly see Aiga do throughout the anime. I'm only talking about anime Aiga as his whole story has a ton of flaws that have been pointed out by many. He wasn't a consistent character and especially as a main character. Yes, Valt had his own natural talent for beyblade but he constantly worked on it and polished on the skills that were there to get better-- he got a reality check constantly for that. The whole beyqueen arc was supposed to do that for Aiga but it didn't. He got stagnated to the point where there wasn't anymore growth for him until Achilles broke, and even then it was... extremely non sequitur to the beginning of Cho-Z.

Anyway... sorry for dragging that on longer-- the Cho-Z anime had a lot of issues in literally anything. But if I had to choose a character that I dislike... maybe not hate is... probably Stan from Burst God? He was a bully and like... never really apologized for the stuff that he put everyone through. Him and probably Kouji as... Kouji was just randomly really mean sometimes-- without even meaning to.