(Jun. 19, 2013  4:55 PM)th!nk Wrote: I'm still determining whether a few things are or aren't and don't have it all written out correctly enough that I am comfortable posting it, sorry. Anyone who does answer that question right now would almost certainly miss a few. I'll try to get a rough version with the maybes noted separately written out for you in the next couple of days as I have to do it soon anyway.

You have to use Dranzer S's casings and burning kerberous' base. Be careful when removing it - push it out from the bottom, don't pull, or you risk separating the rubber of the tip from the plastic it surrounds.

(Jun. 19, 2013  5:21 PM)th!nk Wrote: Rock Bison's AR is recoily and dumb in both directions, Whale Crusher is recoily and dumb in left and decent in right, mostly for upper where the width helps it get under stuff, but it has some smash too, which is good because upper attack doesn't actually work that well as it turns out - most compacts wall them, let alone anything actually focussed on defense that doesn't also have a recoily base (based on some tests I posted a while back/general experience). However it really has to be used on a low base to work well.

That's on the price reference list on beywiki IIRC, used they can go pretty cheap though. I'd suggest getting a Driger G instead if you're looking for a competitive attack AR (or Driger V2 if you can afford it).

Seeing as you're coming from MFB, I'll give you a tip (or an essay, oops!):
Recoil is really, really bad in plastics. This is the generation of spikes and stuff, where contact points were actual points, not flat faces - flat faces got laughed at (see: Draciel AR's). There are some AR's that have kinda flat faces that can work because those faces are still decently angled or have spike attack (check the smash attack article) but those all require very expensive bases to not fly backwards out of the ring without losing all of the power that makes using them worthwhile. Attack is not a cheap type because the two tips that are fast and able to handle recoil well are also expensive and hard to find. It kinda sucks but on the other hand, Driger G's AR on Dragoon V2's base works pretty nicely anyway - it's a pretty defensive generation (like MFB) so generally with attack you just aim not to face defense rather than to beat it (like current MFB), especially as circle survivor defense combos are cheap to build (part of why using pure upper attack is basically pointless).
Also, part availability is a huge factor in tournaments, people will often place without a single completely top-tier combination (though basically all plastics scenes have one person with a good collection) or at least, with the lower end of a top tier that has been expanded for exactly that reason. So, don't stress too much about not having the best of the best, even though I don't talk about much else right now because I'm a very, very lucky person and I don't really feel like talking about 'okay' parts when there are so many good parts!

It's probably a bit of a shock (I wouldn't know, but I imagine so), but then most plastics tournaments are more about the novelty for new bladers and nostalgia for older bladers than high-stakes competition - it's a much more pleasant, enjoyable atmosphere IMO.

(Jun. 19, 2013  7:52 PM)th!nk Wrote: Sadly, BK's base is needed to fix it in place - it's the combination of the height of the casings and the base itself that do it. It's kinda hard to get it doing the right thing reliably, also, but it does move real fast if you do.

(Jun. 20, 2013  5:57 AM)th!nk Wrote: @Izkhoort: I generally just assemble my spare parts into random combos to play around with, perhaps do that? If you get Burning Kerberous then you can use its SG (with an shielded ball bearing in place of the metal one) in Wolborg 2's Base anyway, though, which is a really good zombie setup perhaps?

(Jun. 21, 2013  5:22 PM)th!nk Wrote: Bearing-equipped Zombies tend to be the best beys for same-spin survival in plastic as well (basically all zombies minus Spiral Change Base/Full Auto Clutch Base), as they share ideal weight distributions and aims for low recoil, but they're a lot less reliable in same spin (particularly because they're much easier to KO) and how reliable each different zombie setup is would probably change a little (in favour of using Bearing Stinger's shaft I suspect). I should really do more testing on same-spin stamina (I've done enough to be confident saying the above), but it's kinda boring and the left spin things you see are generally either other zombies or things that will KO you anyway, so aside from the former, there's not too much point from a competitive standpoint to investigate in more detail right now.

(Jun. 21, 2013  6:27 PM)DrPepsidew Wrote: Okay, so if I were to want defense, would I go for Driger S' Blade Base or Metal Ball Defenser from one of the Draciels?

(Jun. 21, 2013  6:36 PM)Seto Kaiba Wrote: Has anyone wound up Dragoon G and launched it Right? Its really cool.

(Jun. 21, 2013  9:24 PM)Izhkoort Wrote: Has I always said, I don't have a competitive circle of friends, so I can experiment how many times has I like, also I will do a pure survival for the only sake of making something different than my normal line of combos (attack combos), so it could be something interesting

EDIT: Which ARs are good for right spin stamina? I want to make sure before I choose

(Jun. 22, 2013  3:40 PM)Izhkoort Wrote: I want to use wolborg 2's base (I am still planning thay) with bearing base's shaft and wide survivor in right spin basically, that's why I asked

thanks for the answer

EDIT: which versions of wing cross comes in silver/grey? (to match with wolborg 2's base)

(Jun. 23, 2013  4:53 PM)Benjohadi Wrote:

(Jun. 22, 2013  3:40 PM)Izhkoort Wrote: I want to use wolborg 2's base (I am still planning thay) with bearing base's shaft and wide survivor in right spin basically, that's why I asked

thanks for the answer

EDIT: which versions of wing cross comes in silver/grey? (to match with wolborg 2's base)

apparently...this is the only one that i know that comes with silver (not really actually..its chrome)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beyblade-Frostic-Dranzer-Silver-Meki-Ver-Bey-AL8-/121125214698?pt=TV_Movie_Character_Toys_US&hash=item1c33a019ea

but i dont really know which version is this ULFD..