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RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Dracomageat - May. 05, 2016

IIRC best pure stamina tip is PD but its lack of friction makes it weaker in other areas and it's still beaten out by the Bearing Drive. F230 may shake things up though.

(May. 04, 2016  8:04 PM)Kai-V Wrote: There are moulds of EWD?

No but there are noticeable variations in its performance due to tiny fluctuations in part sizes. Like with CS, the two parts can vary independently and so sometimes the tip will spin more freely or protrude further while at other times it will barely protrude or rotate independently at all, making the bey weirdly aggressive.

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Rock yoya - May. 05, 2016

Can you guys make a beyblade camp In Pennsylvania? Try to make it as close as you can to Horsham and make others if you can and like my idea? All bladers girl or boy any bey should be able to enter. Best thing no bullies and you have the opportunity to make new friends. I want it to be boy or girl because I'm a girl and lots of boys like blading! Please approve this message

-Rock yoya

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Kai-V - May. 05, 2016

(May. 05, 2016  12:12 AM)Rock yoya Wrote: Can you guys make a beyblade camp In Pennsylvania? Try to make it as close as you can to Horsham and make others if you can and like my idea? All bladers girl or boy any bey should be able to enter. Best thing no bullies and you have the opportunity to make new friends. I want it to be boy or girl because I'm a girl and lots of boys like blading! Please approve this message

-Rock yoya

Hey, this would be awesome, but there is no active Beyblade scene in Pennsylvania right now. You guys should start by gathering enough people and then setting up tournaments. Once it becomes more popular and frequent, you could consider opening training camps or things like that, but right now there is not enough activity to justify it.

You should post in the following topic to let others in your region know that you are interested in being a part of the local community: https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Pittsburgh-Pennsylvania-USA

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - SuperKirby64 - May. 06, 2016

Hey, anyone managed to use their Xtreme driver long enough for it to wear down? If so, you mind telling me how long the rubber lasts compared to tips like RF and R2F? Probably Dragoon beys as well, if you can hah.

Side question: Is it bad if my EWD acts like a ghetto mix of a HF, S, and an actual EWD?... Probably its mold?...

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Dual - May. 06, 2016

I think that's just the piece getting worn down.

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Dracomageat - May. 06, 2016

Some Hasbro EWD come out the box like that. It sucks but try putting it on L-Drago Destroy (light hasbro mould preferred) 85 EWD. Makes a good spin stealer and has defence through scraping but tends to recover enough to be able to go on.

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Zoroaste - May. 06, 2016

(May. 04, 2016  8:36 PM)FIREFIRE Wrote:
(May. 04, 2016  8:04 PM)Kai-V Wrote: There are moulds of EWD?

Yes.

What are the differences? Or are they like F230 in that some just suck and others don't?

(May. 06, 2016  7:49 AM)SuperKirby64 Wrote: Hey, anyone managed to use their Xtreme driver long enough for it to wear down?


I am also curious about this. I remember people saying that it is best when the hole is gone and it is completely flat. On my first one, my hole is almost gone, but now the edges are rounded and it is not nearly as aggressive. Am I almost there? Or did mine wear wrong?

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - juncction - May. 07, 2016

(May. 06, 2016  8:18 PM)Zoroaste Wrote:
(May. 04, 2016  8:36 PM)FIREFIRE Wrote:
(May. 04, 2016  8:04 PM)Kai-V Wrote: There are moulds of EWD?

Yes.


What are the differences? Or are they like F230 in that some just suck and others don't?

As far as I can tell there aren't any true mold differences for ewd. There was a few releases at the end of hasbro release cycle where the ewd had a manufacturing issue and allowed the central part to fall too deep into the tip causing it to act like an extremely worn down ewd.

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - NEET no Kami - May. 07, 2016

does the evileye layer have any use?

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Dracomageat - May. 08, 2016

(May. 07, 2016  12:38 AM)juncction Wrote: As far as I can tell there aren't any true mold differences for ewd. There was a few releases at the end of hasbro release cycle where the ewd had a manufacturing issue and allowed the central part to fall too deep into the tip causing it to act like an extremely worn down ewd.

Basically this, combined with general part size variance. EWD is a decent part but some Hasbro ones are better for attack or defense than endurance because of such manufacturing issues.

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - SuperKirby64 - May. 09, 2016

After FINALLY figuring out how online shopping works (I'm really used to brick and mortar, lol), I've decided to order the four launch burst beys (Valkyrie, Kerbeus, Ragnaruk, Spriggan). Question is, which version is preferred? The Dual layers or Pre-Dual? I know Pre-dual beys, especially the launch ones, have problems with worn down teeth but not much towards pros/cons of Dual Layers (aside from Victory Valkyrie's). Any tips?

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Kai-V - May. 09, 2016

(May. 09, 2016  1:31 AM)SuperKirby64 Wrote: After FINALLY figuring out how online shopping works (I'm really used to brick and mortar, lol), I've decided to order the four launch burst beys (Valkyrie, Kerbeus, Ragnaruk, Spriggan). Question is, which version is preferred? The Dual layers or Pre-Dual? I know Pre-dual beys, especially the launch ones, have problems with worn down teeth but not much towards pros/cons of Dual Layers (aside from Victory Valkyrie's). Any tips?

That should be asked in the Purchase Consultation thread instead, but if you look at the the number of great parts:
First - Valkyrie, Defense, Heavy, Spread. Good alternatives: Spriggan, Survive, Accel.
Dual Layer System - Kaiser Kerbeus, Gravity, Revolve, Knuckle. No real options for decent alternatives at all.

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - SuperKirby64 - May. 09, 2016

(May. 09, 2016  1:41 AM)Kai-V Wrote:
(May. 09, 2016  1:31 AM)SuperKirby64 Wrote: After FINALLY figuring out how online shopping works (I'm really used to brick and mortar, lol), I've decided to order the four launch burst beys (Valkyrie, Kerbeus, Ragnaruk, Spriggan). Question is, which version is preferred? The Dual layers or Pre-Dual? I know Pre-dual beys, especially the launch ones, have problems with worn down teeth but not much towards pros/cons of Dual Layers (aside from Victory Valkyrie's). Any tips?

That should be asked in the Purchase Consultation thread instead, but if you look at the the number of great parts:
First - Valkyrie, Defense, Heavy, Spread. Good alternatives: Spriggan, Survive, Accel.
Dual Layer System - Kaiser Kerbeus, Gravity, Revolve, Knuckle. No real options for decent alternatives at all.

Really? So there's at least one good part for each of the pre-dual layer system starters? I'll take this into account. Thanks! Also, apologies for the wrong thread.

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Kai-V - May. 09, 2016

Well, sort of, it depends on each person sometimes. Personally I see no reason to have Knuckle if you have Gravity or Heavy, but others seem to insist that Knuckle should be used. There is also a debate about Kaiser Kerbeus' usefulness compared to Wyvern, but if you are not considering purchasing Wyvern Armed Massive at all, then you would probably need Kaiser Kerbeus.

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Wizard - May. 09, 2016

Is there any benefit from taking my Burst beys with me to Japan, or should I just leave them behind and buy new? Mine are all pre-December releases so I'm not too sure how they fare competitively these days. Does the new stuff outclass them at all?

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - The Supreme One - May. 09, 2016

(May. 09, 2016  5:55 PM)Wizard Wrote: Is there any benefit from taking my Burst beys with me to Japan, or should I just leave them behind and buy new? Mine are all pre-December releases so I'm not too sure how they fare competitively these days. Does the new stuff outclass them at all?
There are plenty of good parts in the pre-December releases & quite a few that haven't been outclassed. I would definitely bring them with you if you can.

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Splitz - May. 09, 2016

Can someone explain to me the different types of burst beys now? I'm coming across new types in the threads like stationary attack, does this literally mean an attack type layer like Valkyrie combined with a defensive driver?

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Kai-V - May. 09, 2016

(May. 09, 2016  11:18 PM)Splitz Wrote: Can someone explain to me the different types of burst beys now? I'm coming across new types in the threads like stationary attack, does this literally mean an attack type layer like Valkyrie combined with a defensive driver?

The community has definitely invented many type names for what was previously all encompassed in the Balance type...

'Stationary Attack' is actually an Attack Layer paired with a Stamina Driver, like Survive or Revolve. In Burst, since you can win by making the opponent explode, you do not need the momentum at all to push the Beyblade out and win by knockout. In fact, knockouts are quite rare in Burst now.

There is also 'Mobile Defense' or 'Active Defense', which is a Defense Layer combined with an Attack Driver, typically one not made of rubber though, to ensure some stamina while circling around the stadium and avoiding hits in the centre.

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Splitz - May. 09, 2016

OK, I see, thanks for that. So does this mean the balance type now has no meaning as we can classify it based upon its movements and such.

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Hato - May. 09, 2016

(May. 09, 2016  11:18 PM)Splitz Wrote: Can someone explain to me the different types of burst beys now? I'm coming across new types in the threads like stationary attack, does this literally mean an attack type layer like Valkyrie combined with a defensive driver?

You are almost right for stationary attack. Stationary attack is when the combo has an immobile Driver (such as Survive, Revolve, etc (with the intent of staying in the centre)) with the purpose of Bursting the opponent (usually Defense and/or Stamina). Valkryie Heavy Survive/Gyro/Revolve is an example of this, as it can Burst the opponent but is not mobile.

There is also Mobile Defense, which is different from the 'regular Defense' (stationary Defense). The combo uses an aggressive Driver (Accel, Zephyr are good examples) with a Defense Layer which can help reduce impact (usually launched so it is hugging the ridge). An example of this would be Wyvern Heavy Accel, as it seems to Burst less when mobile.

Finally, there is stallers. This one you may have heard of already, but the purpose is to go around the ridge to try and outspin you opponent. DeathScyther Spread/Ring Accel/Zephyr is an example of a staller. This one is pretty simple to understand.

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Kai-V - May. 09, 2016

(May. 09, 2016  11:29 PM)Splitz Wrote: OK, I see, thanks for that. So does this mean the balance type now has no meaning as we can classify it based upon its movements and such.

Personally I would still put all of those under Balance.

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - TenshouTsubasa - May. 10, 2016

Is V2 and Variable (under the 3 different stages of wearing) any good?
Also, is there any beyblades in Dual-Layer that are good? From what I saw they generally are outclassed by their original counterparts.

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - cosmicstriker - May. 10, 2016

Only Ragnaruk is really any viable.

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - beeker - May. 10, 2016

is "Rapidity" a knockoff blade ? Is it worth buying
(I'm new here so please bear with me)

RE: Ask a question, get an answer! #2 - Hato - May. 10, 2016

(May. 10, 2016  11:22 AM)beeker Wrote: is "Rapidity" a knockoff blade ? Is it worth buying
(I'm new here so please bear with me)

Yes, it is a company that makes counterfeits. Any company other than Hasbro, Takara and Sonokong (and now Yung Toys for Burst) is fake.

Some of the parts are quality, and I would suggest saving your money for legit beys.