(Apr. 04, 2019  10:22 PM)MagikHorse Wrote:

(Apr. 03, 2019  9:36 PM)Hussainthetank Wrote: would sV 00 meteor destroy' zan be good competitively?

Zan is definitely better than Retsu, and Ten might work as well (although I don't know how heavy Ten is compared to Zan). A heavier frame like Bump might be a bit better, but Meteor's a decent substitute.

I still don't think Destroy' really has a good fit into this sort of design though. I just really don't think it's the best idea out there over a more aggressive driver, same as when I gave my spiel on the subject in the last page.

I just got them in yesterday and honestly need to start testing though, so I guess we'll have to see once I can get a little free time.

(Apr. 04, 2019  11:19 PM)Hussainthetank Wrote:

(Apr. 04, 2019  10:22 PM)MagikHorse Wrote: Zan is definitely better than Retsu, and Ten might work as well (although I don't know how heavy Ten is compared to Zan). A heavier frame like Bump might be a bit better, but Meteor's a decent substitute.

I still don't think Destroy' really has a good fit into this sort of design though. I just really don't think it's the best idea out there over a more aggressive driver, same as when I gave my spiel on the subject in the last page.

I just got them in yesterday and honestly need to start testing though, so I guess we'll have to see once I can get a little free time.

destroy' is pretty good in terms of attack but acts a bit like a balanced type driver but more on the attacking side, that being said the destroy' driver can be crazy fast which would result in hard hits and increasing bursts. It also has a super tight spring lock which is pretty obvious considering that it is a dash driver. Just imagine destroy' with a tight spring lock and sV with brick like teeth.. this combo will rarely ever burst and will give sV high LAD.

so yeah i think this combo would do really well in tourneys but xtreme' would be way better but less versatile

(Apr. 04, 2019  11:19 PM)Hussainthetank Wrote: destroy' is pretty good in terms of attack but acts a bit like a balanced type driver but more on the attacking side, that being said the destroy' driver can be crazy fast which would result in hard hits and increasing bursts. It also has a super tight spring lock which is pretty obvious considering that it is a dash driver. Just imagine destroy' with a tight spring lock and sV with brick like teeth.. this combo will rarely ever burst and will give sV high LAD.

so yeah i think this combo would do really well in tourneys but xtreme' would be way better but less versatile

(Apr. 06, 2019  7:00 PM)K1D Wrote: After messing around ever further, the slash base was def made for only KO attack. The Valkyrie Gachi chip doesnt exactly help with the massive recoil unless used with a prime driver.

(Apr. 06, 2019  7:04 PM)MagikHorse Wrote:

(Apr. 06, 2019  7:00 PM)K1D Wrote: After messing around ever further, the slash base was def made for only KO attack. The Valkyrie Gachi chip doesnt exactly help with the massive recoil unless used with a prime driver.

I've tested and confirmed this. In 20 matches of SV.Bl.X' Zan against a stock Archer Hercules, 7 of SV's 11 wins were KOs, and only 4 were bursts. Probably could've won more if I wasn't a bit rusty with Xtreme'.

(Apr. 06, 2019  8:00 PM)Garvin prime Wrote: (Now I smile upon 7 and remind it of the days that it was considered a beast , days that it was entitled the heaviest, days it was called a necessity. I laugh as that day is past)
Forgive me I lost a few after reading 7 as a light disc .
But to add to the discussion, shouldn't 8' be a better alternative. Probably paired with quick' assuming it is the shorter extreme it is expected to be.

(Apr. 06, 2019  8:00 PM)Garvin prime Wrote: (Now I smile upon 7 and remind it of the days that it was considered a beast , days that it was entitled the heaviest, days it was called a necessity. I laugh as that day is past)
Forgive me I lost a few after reading 7 as a light disc .
But to add to the discussion, shouldn't 8' be a better alternative. Probably paired with quick' assuming it is the shorter extreme it is expected to be.

(Apr. 06, 2019  9:41 PM)MGoldZeo Wrote: Is the heaviest disk Blitz or Sting? My Blitz weighs about 2 grams more, but a lot of people are saying it’s Sting. I’m really confused on this and I wonder if they are making a mistake or it is just a mold difference.

(Apr. 06, 2019  8:50 PM)Hussainthetank Wrote: 00 would be better

(Apr. 08, 2019  4:03 PM)GodGaia Wrote: How competitive is slash Valkyrie

(Apr. 08, 2019  4:03 PM)GodGaia Wrote: How competitive is slash Valkyrie

(Apr. 08, 2019  4:26 PM)Hussainthetank Wrote:

(Apr. 08, 2019  4:03 PM)GodGaia Wrote: How competitive is slash Valkyrie

it can be put into a lot of attack type or attack hybrid combos most notably xtreme'/jolt' or even destroy' this helps with slash valkyrie bursting a lot because of the stronger locking mechanism. I would recommend putting it on a balanced weight since the retsu weight further increases the risk of slash valkyrie bursting which is why a lot of beytubers see slash valkyrie not that good competitive wise which i highly disagree, reason being is because the whole layer itself has the potential to be the one of if not the best attacking layer. I think that slash valkyrie is very competitive and should be used by bladers who are on the all-out attack or like LAD combos although i dont think this layer base is that good for it. try out these combos if you would like:


sV 00 vortex xtreme'/jolt' ten weight

sV 7 meteor xtreme' zan weight

sV 0 cross destroy' zan weight

sV 7 cross xtend plus

(Apr. 08, 2019  10:53 PM)AirKingNeo Wrote: Why would you use Meteor or Vortex on SV? Also, it's not like you have to use those drivers with those disks exclusively. Really, you can do any combo of 0/7/10/00 and a competitive frame for attack (Bump, Angle).

Can't see Xtend Plus on an attack layer when it's more or less a stamina driver.

(Apr. 08, 2019  11:57 PM)Hussainthetank Wrote:

(Apr. 08, 2019  10:53 PM)AirKingNeo Wrote: Why would you use Meteor or Vortex on SV? Also, it's not like you have to use those drivers with those disks exclusively. Really, you can do any combo of 0/7/10/00 and a competitive frame for attack (Bump, Angle).

Can't see Xtend Plus on an attack layer when it's more or less a stamina driver.

what are do you mean? meteor and vortex make an excellent attack combo when its paired with heavy discs like 0/00 ext especially since vortex is heavy and has good synergy with slash valkyrie because they are both 3 pointed and has a decent weight to it. however meteor is most commonly used

 your right xtend plus is not really suitable for a layer with high recoil and very aggressive. it just wastes raw power and speed

(Apr. 09, 2019  3:15 AM)AirKingNeo Wrote:

(Apr. 08, 2019  11:57 PM)Hussainthetank Wrote: what are do you mean? meteor and vortex make an excellent attack combo when its paired with heavy discs like 0/00 ext especially since vortex is heavy and has good synergy with slash valkyrie because they are both 3 pointed and has a decent weight to it. however meteor is most commonly used

 your right xtend plus is not really suitable for a layer with high recoil and very aggressive. it just wastes raw power and speed

Meteor and Vortex are long outclassed (Vortex has been outclassed for a really really long time). You're better off with Bump, Cross, or Angle. Of course, in a deck you would use save Cross for your stamina/defense beys, but it's still an option.

Vortex is outweighed by Bump, Cross, and Angle. Meteor is outweighed by Bump for sure (unsure on the others), but overall outclassed by Cross and Angle.

(Apr. 09, 2019  9:31 AM)Hussainthetank Wrote:

(Apr. 09, 2019  3:15 AM)AirKingNeo Wrote: Meteor and Vortex are long outclassed (Vortex has been outclassed for a really really long time). You're better off with Bump, Cross, or Angle. Of course, in a deck you would use save Cross for your stamina/defense beys, but it's still an option.

Vortex is outweighed by Bump, Cross, and Angle. Meteor is outweighed by Bump for sure (unsure on the others), but overall outclassed by Cross and Angle.

wow. really? never knew that meteor would be outclassed since its one of the heaviest frames around.

(Apr. 09, 2019  10:58 AM)Rouzuke Wrote:

(Apr. 09, 2019  9:31 AM)Hussainthetank Wrote: wow. really? never knew that meteor would be outclassed since its one of the heaviest frames around.

Vortex is quite outclassed in terms of literally everthing you'd need from a Frame. Bump, Glaive, Proof, Cross, Star, and maybe Meteor are most of the used Frames. Angle might work for that 3 contact point synergy but then again I don't have the actual Beyblade from the rare bey to test that, unless you got that through the Hasbro one.

(Apr. 09, 2019  11:06 AM)Hussainthetank Wrote: will cross help slash valkyrie for LAD

(Apr. 09, 2019  3:15 AM)AirKingNeo Wrote:

(Apr. 08, 2019  11:57 PM)Hussainthetank Wrote: what are do you mean? meteor and vortex make an excellent attack combo when its paired with heavy discs like 0/00 ext especially since vortex is heavy and has good synergy with slash valkyrie because they are both 3 pointed and has a decent weight to it. however meteor is most commonly used

 your right xtend plus is not really suitable for a layer with high recoil and very aggressive. it just wastes raw power and speed

Meteor and Vortex are long outclassed (Vortex has been outclassed for a really really long time). You're better off with Bump, Cross, or Angle. Of course, in a deck you would use save Cross for your stamina/defense beys, but it's still an option.

Vortex is outweighed by Bump, Cross, and Angle. Meteor is outweighed by Bump for sure (unsure on the others), but overall outclassed by Cross and Angle.

(Apr. 09, 2019  2:38 PM)Garvin prime Wrote:

(Apr. 09, 2019  11:06 AM)Hussainthetank Wrote: will cross help slash valkyrie for LAD

sure it will. you might wanna go with slash valkyrie zan 00 cross destroy'.(the blue one, right?that has been the usual)
except for the fact that for any and all smash attackers, stamina or LAD doesn't mean carp. you ought to use extreme', jolt', hunter' but then why are you using cross instead of bump or something heavier. 
i think it has been fairly well established that as a part slash is for use in KO attack only, so you just wanna add all the weight that you can without removing the raw stamina. LAD is out the window for this bey.