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Hold’ Testing and Discussion - BuilderROB - Jan. 11, 2020
A testing and discussion thread for Hold’. If you want me to do tests let me know the two combos you want me to do.
LS 00C H’ Vs JD Bl Qc’
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RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - #Fafnir - Jan. 11, 2020
Can you do Zwei Diabolos Zenith Hold' VS Perfect Phoenix 00C Xt+?
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - Orbit - Jan. 11, 2020
Lord Bahamut 00cross hold’ vs Perfect Pheonix 00cross xtend plus (stamina)
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - Suoh sadboii - Jan. 11, 2020
Would Zwei Diabolos 00 Cross Hold' work?
Maybe Master Bahamut 00 Cross Hold' could work?
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - Orbit - Jan. 11, 2020
Do testing on what frame is best for hold’ LAD, 00cross, 00expand, 00polish, sting, and around.
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - BuilderROB - Jan. 11, 2020
(Jan. 11, 2020 2:53 AM)#Fafnir Wrote: Can you do Zwei Diabolos Zenith Hold' VS Perfect Phoenix 00C Xt+?
(Jan. 11, 2020 3:03 AM)Orbit Wrote: Lord Bahamut 00cross hold’ vs Perfect Pheonix 00cross xtend plus (stamina)
I do not have Perfect Phoenix.
(Jan. 11, 2020 3:09 AM)Suoh sadboii Wrote: Would Zwei Diabolos 00 Cross Hold' work?
Maybe Master Bahamut 00 Cross Hold' could work?
I don’t have Master yet. Hopefully it comes in tomorrow and I can do your test then.
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - Suoh sadboii - Jan. 11, 2020
(Jan. 11, 2020 3:16 AM)BuilderROB Wrote:(Jan. 11, 2020 2:53 AM)#Fafnir Wrote: Can you do Zwei Diabolos Zenith Hold' VS Perfect Phoenix 00C Xt+?
(Jan. 11, 2020 3:03 AM)Orbit Wrote: Lord Bahamut 00cross hold’ vs Perfect Pheonix 00cross xtend plus (stamina)
I do not have Perfect Phoenix.
(Jan. 11, 2020 3:09 AM)Suoh sadboii Wrote: Would Zwei Diabolos 00 Cross Hold' work?
Maybe Master Bahamut 00 Cross Hold' could work?
I don’t have Master yet. Hopefully it comes in tomorrow and I can do your test then.
Awesome. Thanks!
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - BuilderROB - Jan. 11, 2020
(Jan. 11, 2020 3:21 AM)Suoh sadboii Wrote:(Jan. 11, 2020 3:16 AM)BuilderROB Wrote: I do not have Perfect Phoenix.
I don’t have Master yet. Hopefully it comes in tomorrow and I can do your test then.
Awesome. Thanks!
No problem! I also would like a combo to test it against.
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - #Fafnir - Jan. 11, 2020
(Jan. 11, 2020 3:16 AM)BuilderROB Wrote:(Jan. 11, 2020 2:53 AM)#Fafnir Wrote: Can you do Zwei Diabolos Zenith Hold' VS Perfect Phoenix 00C Xt+?
(Jan. 11, 2020 3:03 AM)Orbit Wrote: Lord Bahamut 00cross hold’ vs Perfect Pheonix 00cross xtend plus (stamina)
I do not have Perfect Phoenix.
(Jan. 11, 2020 3:09 AM)Suoh sadboii Wrote: Would Zwei Diabolos 00 Cross Hold' work?
Maybe Master Bahamut 00 Cross Hold' could work?
I don’t have Master yet. Hopefully it comes in tomorrow and I can do your test then.
Zwei Diabolos Zenith Hold' VS Lord Spriggan Vanguard Bearing.
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - BuilderROB - Jan. 11, 2020
(Jan. 11, 2020 3:49 AM)#Fafnir Wrote:(Jan. 11, 2020 3:16 AM)BuilderROB Wrote: I do not have Perfect Phoenix.
I don’t have Master yet. Hopefully it comes in tomorrow and I can do your test then.
Zwei Diabolos Zenith Hold' VS Lord Spriggan Vanguard Bearing.
Ok, I will get to it tomorrow!
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - Orpheus - Jan. 11, 2020
Hold’ isn’t meant to be used as a attack tip, people mostly use it as a second bearing.
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - rightspin99 - Jan. 11, 2020
Lord Dragon 2 sting hold’ vs Judgement Diabolos blitz jolt’/ xtreme’
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - BuilderROB - Jan. 11, 2020
(Jan. 11, 2020 2:34 PM)rightspin99 Wrote: Lord Dragon 2 sting hold’ vs Judgement Diabolos blitz jolt’/ xtreme’
You’ll need to change the chip on Lord. Other than that you’re good but my xtreme’ is worn just to let you know.
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - rightspin99 - Jan. 11, 2020
(Jan. 11, 2020 2:54 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:(Jan. 11, 2020 2:34 PM)rightspin99 Wrote: Lord Dragon 2 sting hold’ vs Judgement Diabolos blitz jolt’/ xtreme’
You’ll need to change the chip on Lord. Other than that you’re good but my xtreme’ is worn just to let you know.
Dragon 1
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - BuilderROB - Jan. 11, 2020
(Jan. 11, 2020 3:16 PM)rightspin99 Wrote:(Jan. 11, 2020 2:54 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: You’ll need to change the chip on Lord. Other than that you’re good but my xtreme’ is worn just to let you know.
Dragon 1
That will work. I will get to testing soon!
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - Orbit - Jan. 11, 2020
Lord bahamut around or sting (preferably around) hold’ vs Cho z Spriggan 00wall bearing
Actually, Vanguard instead of 00wall
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - BuilderROB - Jan. 11, 2020
Zwei Diabolos Zenith Hold’ Vs Lord Spriggan Vanguard Bearing (Right Spin). I did ten rounds.
Results:
Zwei Diabolos Zenith Hold’: 40% (1 OS 3 KO’s)
Lord Spriggan Vanguard Bearing: 60% (6 OS’)
With a good launch you can KO LS Vn Br, but when it comes down to stamina LS would outspin it, except for when the LS combo got stuck on the tornado ridge and lost all its stamina, but that is rare.
I will be unable to do any more testing with Hold’ until I get a new one as the shaft and plate has become so loose to the point that it falls out of the driver every time I try to launch it now. Feel free to do your own testing with the driver though.
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - BuilderROB - Jan. 25, 2020
I got a new hold’, so I can get back to testing now.
Lord Spriggan 0Cross Hold’ Vs Master Bahamut Sting Bearing. I did ten rounds.
Lord Spriggan: 10% (1 OS)
Master Bahamut: 90% (3 KO’s 6 OS’)
So I guess hold’ can not outspin opposite spin bearing most of the time, so that is good to know.
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - Orbit - Jan. 25, 2020
What about sting on hold?
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - BuilderROB - Jan. 25, 2020
(Jan. 25, 2020 3:54 AM)Orbit Wrote: What about sting on hold?
I’m not sure, but Cross definitely has better LAD than sting. Could I maybe have a layer to put the disc and hold’ on and a combo to put it up against?
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - Orbit - Jan. 25, 2020
As you know, on somethings like bearing OWD is more important, I think hold is one of these things.
Judgement Achilles sting hold’ vs Lord Longinus sting bearing
Sen weight on achilles
If you have two lords than lord Achilles sting hold’ instead of judgment
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - BuilderROB - Jan. 25, 2020
(Jan. 25, 2020 4:11 AM)Orbit Wrote: As you know, on somethings like bearing OWD is more important, I think hold is one of these things.I don’t have a second sting or sen.
Judgement Achilles sting hold’ vs Lord Longinus sting bearing
Sen weight on achilles
If you have two lords than lord Achilles sting hold’ instead of judgment
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - Orbit - Jan. 25, 2020
Lord doesn’t need a weight and if not sting then around on lord Longinus
If you don’t have around vanguard will work on bearing.
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - BuilderROB - Jan. 25, 2020
(Jan. 25, 2020 4:23 AM)Orbit Wrote: Lord doesn’t need a weight and if not sting then around on lord Longinus
If you don’t have around vanguard will work on bearing.
But Judgememt Achilles does. What weight do you want on it since I do not have sen?
RE: Hold’ Testing and Discussion - Orbit - Jan. 25, 2020
Zan. Period