(Feb. 04, 2019  4:42 AM)bladekid Wrote: Hello, I have just gotten archer Hercules H4 and have decided to test it. Let me know what you want me to test it on. Enjoy the tests!

Test 1:
H4.7.Et-S(BR) VS F3.0G.Ds (20 battles, alternating weak launch, ties redone)

F3 Win Rate: 40% (OS: 8, KO: 0, BST: 0)
H4 Win Rate: 60% (OS: 12, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 4

Test 2: 
H4.7C.Br VS dC3.7C.O (20 battles, alternating launch, ties redone)

C3 Win Rate: 95% (OS: 19, KO: 0, BST: 0)
H4 Win Rate: 5% (OS: 0, KO: 0, BST: 1)
Ties: 3

Test 3:
H4.7C.At VS X3.0C.Op-S(Atk,BR) (20 battles, H4 launched first, ties redone)

X3 Win Rate: 70% (OS: 1, KO: 3, BST: 10)
H4 Win Rate: 30% (OS: 6, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 0

Test 4: 
H4.7.Et-S(BR) VS N3.0F.Xt-S(BR) (20 battles, alternating launches, ties redone)

N3 Win Rate: 80% (OS: 16, KO: 0, BST: 0)
H4 Win Rate: 20% (OS: 3, KO: 0, BST: 1)
Ties: 1

Ok, so lets talk about the tests:

Test 1: This battle was weird, it started out completely one sided with H4 winning 8 battles in a row, then it just became a comeback for Fafnir but with some H4 wins every once in a while.

Test 2: This is a good thing! This shows it can be beaten by stamina if you have the right driver matchup. While dC3 on O can't really beat aH on Br, it can beat H4 on Br, showing that it is not as OP as the TT version and definitely beatable. 

Test 3: So just starting of, something to mention, when I do these tests, I always try out multiple part setups before I chose a matchup to test. In this case, I started X3's driver at D-S and went through O,W,Yr-S, and Zt before I came to Op-S. It started getting burst after burst on H4, then it started dying down and losing more battles, but it still got some bursts and KOs here and there. This is a good sign and shows H4 is by no means OP in anyway and attack has a pretty good chance against it. 

Test 4: This was just more of a fun battle, just testing N3 staller/destabilizer. It worked very well and was able to OS pretty much every time. H4 got a lucky burst on it and even OSed it a couple times, but it couldn't really do much to beat N3.

Overall: I think H4 is a pretty good beyblade, it has decent defence, pretty good stamina, and overall was just a decent bey, not OP by any means and definitely beatable by both attack and stamina. I may end up using this depending on whether I see it as a good choice to fit some of my decks or matchups. Thanks for reading and feel free to do your own tests!

(Feb. 04, 2019  4:47 AM)CheetoBlader Wrote:

(Feb. 04, 2019  4:42 AM)bladekid Wrote: Hello, I have just gotten archer Hercules H4 and have decided to test it. Let me know what you want me to test it on. Enjoy the tests!

Test 1:
H4.7.Et-S(BR) VS F3.0G.Ds (20 battles, alternating weak launch, ties redone)

F3 Win Rate: 40% (OS: 8, KO: 0, BST: 0)
H4 Win Rate: 60% (OS: 12, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 4

Test 2: 
H4.7C.Br VS dC3.7C.O (20 battles, alternating launch, ties redone)

C3 Win Rate: 95% (OS: 19, KO: 0, BST: 0)
H4 Win Rate: 5% (OS: 0, KO: 0, BST: 1)
Ties: 3

Test 3:
H4.7C.At VS X3.0C.Op-S(Atk,BR) (20 battles, H4 launched first, ties redone)

X3 Win Rate: 70% (OS: 1, KO: 3, BST: 10)
H4 Win Rate: 30% (OS: 6, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 0

Test 4: 
H4.7.Et-S(BR) VS N3.0F.Xt-S(BR) (20 battles, alternating launches, ties redone)

N3 Win Rate: 80% (OS: 16, KO: 0, BST: 0)
H4 Win Rate: 20% (OS: 3, KO: 0, BST: 1)
Ties: 1

Ok, so lets talk about the tests:

Test 1: This battle was weird, it started out completely one sided with H4 winning 8 battles in a row, then it just became a comeback for Fafnir but with some H4 wins every once in a while.

Test 2: This is a good thing! This shows it can be beaten by stamina if you have the right driver matchup. While dC3 on O can't really beat aH on Br, it can beat H4 on Br, showing that it is not as OP as the TT version and definitely beatable. 

Test 3: So just starting of, something to mention, when I do these tests, I always try out multiple part setups before I chose a matchup to test. In this case, I started X3's driver at D-S and went through O,W,Yr-S, and Zt before I came to Op-S. It started getting burst after burst on H4, then it started dying down and losing more battles, but it still got some bursts and KOs here and there. This is a good sign and shows H4 is by no means OP in anyway and attack has a pretty good chance against it. 

Test 4: This was just more of a fun battle, just testing N3 staller/destabilizer. It worked very well and was able to OS pretty much every time. H4 got a lucky burst on it and even OSed it a couple times, but it couldn't really do much to beat N3.

Overall: I think H4 is a pretty good beyblade, it has decent defence, pretty good stamina, and overall was just a decent bey, not OP by any means and definitely beatable by both attack and stamina. I may end up using this depending on whether I see it as a good choice to fit some of my decks or matchups. Thanks for reading and feel free to do your own tests!

1. Hasbro nerfed H4
2. Try H4 7C R

(Feb. 04, 2019  1:03 PM)bladekid Wrote:

(Feb. 04, 2019  4:47 AM)CheetoBlader Wrote: 1. Hasbro nerfed H4
2. Try H4 7C R

Yeah, hasbro definitely nerfed H4, but it is probably the best turbo bey so far and is actually a pretty good DEF/STA hybrid. Obviously, came from the lack of metal, but honestly, if you think this is a bad nerf, you don't want to see S4 lol. Also, what do you want me to test H4.7C.R against? Thanks for your suggestion.

(Feb. 04, 2019  7:45 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote:

(Feb. 04, 2019  1:03 PM)bladekid Wrote: Yeah, hasbro definitely nerfed H4, but it is probably the best turbo bey so far and is actually a pretty good DEF/STA hybrid. Obviously, came from the lack of metal, but honestly, if you think this is a bad nerf, you don't want to see S4 lol. Also, what do you want me to test H4.7C.R against? Thanks for your suggestion.

H4.7C.R VS J2.7C.R

(Feb. 04, 2019  10:28 PM)bladekid Wrote:

(Feb. 04, 2019  7:45 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote: H4.7C.R VS J2.7C.R

Ok, thanks for the suggestion.

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Here you go CheetoBlader

H4.7C.R VS X3.7C.R (20 battles, alternating launches, ties redone)

J2 Win Rate: 15% (OS: 3, KO: 0, BST: 0)
H4 Win Rate: 85% (OS: 16, KO: 0, BST: 1)
Ties: 1

(Feb. 05, 2019  4:34 AM)CheetoBlader Wrote:

(Feb. 04, 2019  10:28 PM)bladekid Wrote: Ok, thanks for the suggestion.

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Here you go CheetoBlader

H4.7C.R VS X3.7C.R (20 battles, alternating launches, ties redone)

J2 Win Rate: 15% (OS: 3, KO: 0, BST: 0)
H4 Win Rate: 85% (OS: 16, KO: 0, BST: 1)
Ties: 1

Did you do J2 or X3?

(Feb. 05, 2019  5:03 AM)bladekid Wrote:

(Feb. 05, 2019  4:34 AM)CheetoBlader Wrote: Did you do J2 or X3?

I did J2, it was just a carry-over from another test, my bad.

(Feb. 05, 2019  9:31 PM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote: Does H4 Have Metal On The Layer?

(Feb. 05, 2019  9:31 PM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote: Does H4 Have Metal On The Layer?

(Feb. 05, 2019  9:20 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote:

(Feb. 05, 2019  5:03 AM)bladekid Wrote: I did J2, it was just a carry-over from another test, my bad.

Then WOW! We found a J2 Counter!

(Feb. 07, 2019  4:22 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: Is it just me or does Eternal-S in slingshock mode deplete all of its spin within seconds?

(Feb. 07, 2019  1:08 AM)gxpt2000 Wrote: can you try:
H4 10 Et vs B3 7G Ds?
also maybe test against SR3 0B Br?

(Feb. 07, 2019  1:08 AM)gxpt2000 Wrote: can you try:
H4 10 Et vs B3 7G Ds?
also maybe test against SR3 0B Br?

(Feb. 12, 2019  10:46 PM)Avery Purple999 Wrote: Oh yeah I got that bey for its tip and here's the result I got

Anubis and Hercules fought 10 battles and were launched at the same time and here's the result I got,

Anubis 10

Hercules 0

-Avery

(Feb. 12, 2019  10:51 PM)Dt20000 Wrote:

(Feb. 12, 2019  10:46 PM)Avery Purple999 Wrote: Oh yeah I got that bey for its tip and here's the result I got

Anubis and Hercules fought 10 battles and were launched at the same time and here's the result I got,

Anubis 10

Hercules 0

-Avery

Did you Launch both at the same speed? For me the results show Hercules as a clear winner

(Feb. 12, 2019  10:46 PM)Avery Purple999 Wrote: Oh yeah I got that bey for its tip and here's the result I got

Anubis and Hercules fought 10 battles and were launched at the same time and here's the result I got,

Anubis 10

Hercules 0

-Avery

(Feb. 12, 2019  10:46 PM)Avery Purple999 Wrote: Oh yeah I got that bey for its tip and here's the result I got

Anubis and Hercules fought 10 battles and were launched at the same time and here's the result I got,

Anubis 10

Hercules 0

-Avery

(Feb. 10, 2019  5:17 AM)bladekid Wrote:

(Feb. 07, 2019  1:08 AM)gxpt2000 Wrote: can you try:
H4 10 Et vs B3 7G Ds?
also maybe test against SR3 0B Br?

Here you go.

Test 1:

H4.10.Et-S VS B3.7G.Ds (alternating launches, ties redone)

B3 Win Rate: 20% (OS: 4, KO: 0, BST: 0)
H4 Win Rate: 80% (OS: 16, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 2

Test 2:
H4.10.Et-S VS SrS3(L).0B.Br (alternating launches, ties redone)

S3 Win Rate: 95% (OS: 19, KO: 0, BST: 0)
H4 Win Rate: 5% (OS: 1, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 0

(Feb. 13, 2019  7:06 PM)gxpt2000 Wrote:

(Feb. 10, 2019  5:17 AM)bladekid Wrote: Here you go.

Test 1:

H4.10.Et-S VS B3.7G.Ds (alternating launches, ties redone)

B3 Win Rate: 20% (OS: 4, KO: 0, BST: 0)
H4 Win Rate: 80% (OS: 16, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 2

Test 2:
H4.10.Et-S VS SrS3(L).0B.Br (alternating launches, ties redone)

S3 Win Rate: 95% (OS: 19, KO: 0, BST: 0)
H4 Win Rate: 5% (OS: 1, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 0

Oof,  mind telling me your launch strengths on B3 and such? I would like to know how it’s losing because I can usually outspin the takara one.