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I have always been confused between these two drivers, can somebody tell me which one is better than the other?
BURST RESISTANCE- ZONE' +Z
LAD- DRIFT
ATTACK- TIE
STAMINA- ZONE' +Z
DEFENSE- DRIFT
BALANCE- ZONE' Z+

anything else you need to know?
(Mar. 25, 2021  1:11 AM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: [ -> ]BURST RESISTANCE- ZONE' +Z
LAD- DRIFT
ATTACK- TIE
STAMINA- ZONE' +Z
DEFENSE- DRIFT
BALANCE- ZONE' Z+

anything else you need to know?
Alright, I’m talking about overall though not for each specific stat.
(Mar. 25, 2021  1:14 AM)AlexTheBlader Wrote: [ -> ]
(Mar. 25, 2021  1:11 AM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: [ -> ]BURST RESISTANCE- ZONE' +Z
LAD- DRIFT
ATTACK- TIE
STAMINA- ZONE' +Z
DEFENSE- DRIFT
BALANCE- ZONE' Z+

anything else you need to know?
Alright, I’m talking about overall though not for each specific stat.
oh. well, overall probably zone' +z with 1S wheel.
(Mar. 25, 2021  1:16 AM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: [ -> ]
(Mar. 25, 2021  1:14 AM)AlexTheBlader Wrote: [ -> ]Alright, I’m talking about overall though not for each specific stat.
oh. well, overall probably zone' +z with 1S wheel.
Alright, I’m gonna see other people’s opinions too before I submit it as answered, thanks.
Their both excellent. Zn'Z has good stamina while Drift has good LAD.
(Mar. 25, 2021  1:20 AM)DeltaZakuro Wrote: [ -> ]Their both excellent. Zn'Z has good stamina while Drift has good LAD.
If you could choose one other another which would you choose, or undecided?
(Mar. 25, 2021  1:25 AM)AlexTheBlader Wrote: [ -> ]
(Mar. 25, 2021  1:20 AM)DeltaZakuro Wrote: [ -> ]Their both excellent. Zn'Z has good stamina while Drift has good LAD.
If you could choose one other another which would you choose, or undecided?

It depends on the combo, Zone'+Z has better burst resistance and (I think?) better same-spin Stamina, but Drift has better KO Defense and opposite-spin LAD.
(Mar. 25, 2021  1:44 AM)BladerGem Wrote: [ -> ]
(Mar. 25, 2021  1:25 AM)AlexTheBlader Wrote: [ -> ]If you could choose one other another which would you choose, or undecided?

It depends on the combo, Zone'+Z has better burst resistance and (I think?) better same-spin Stamina, but Drift has better KO Defense and opposite-spin LAD.

honestly, because zone' has more burst resistance, you can give zone' +z 1s wheel and it'll have equal LAD. drift you'll have to use a double chassis
Prob Zone’+z
Drift in terms of overall usage in opposite spin from what I know.

Zone' + Z has better same spin performance, but its still bad enough that you will never use it for that purpose, so this is mosty an irrelevant stat advantage if anything. It's only edge vs Drift is burst resistance, which I'm not sure is a good enough advantage either because of the existence of double chassis.
(Mar. 25, 2021  4:26 AM)Shido-kun Wrote: [ -> ]Drift in terms of overall usage in opposite spin from what I know.

Zone' + Z has better same spin performance, but its still bad enough that you will never use it for that purpose, so this is mosty an irrelevant stat advantage if anything. It's only edge vs Drift is burst resistance, which I'm not sure is a good enough advantage either because of the existence of double chassis.
actually, I have to disagree. you can make it a big advantage by giving zone' +z 1s wheel. with 1s wheel drift, it would burst like crazy. but with zone' +z and 1s wheel you will have extra stamina, equal LAD to drift because of drift having a double chassis, and maybe not more defense, but everything else makes up for it.
(Mar. 25, 2021  4:30 AM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: [ -> ]
(Mar. 25, 2021  4:26 AM)Shido-kun Wrote: [ -> ]Drift in terms of overall usage in opposite spin from what I know.

Zone' + Z has better same spin performance, but its still bad enough that you will never use it for that purpose, so this is mosty an irrelevant stat advantage if anything. It's only edge vs Drift is burst resistance, which I'm not sure is a good enough advantage either because of the existence of double chassis.
actually, I have to disagree. you can make it a big advantage by giving zone' +z 1s wheel. with 1s wheel drift, it would burst like crazy. but with zone' +z and 1s wheel you will have extra stamina, equal LAD to drift because of drift having a double chassis, and maybe not more defense, but everything else makes up for it.

Drift has a weak spring, but I don't think anything would make it burst that consistently in an opposite spin scenario even without a double chassis. Especially when you have the option to use the Lucifer 2 chip which helps with this problem a bit, and the slight imbalance it gives shouldn't matter that much on Drift.
(Mar. 25, 2021  5:39 AM)Shido-kun Wrote: [ -> ]
(Mar. 25, 2021  4:30 AM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: [ -> ]actually, I have to disagree. you can make it a big advantage by giving zone' +z 1s wheel. with 1s wheel drift, it would burst like crazy. but with zone' +z and 1s wheel you will have extra stamina, equal LAD to drift because of drift having a double chassis, and maybe not more defense, but everything else makes up for it.

Drift has a weak spring, but I don't think anything would make it burst that consistently in an opposite spin scenario even without a double chassis. Especially when you have the option to use the Lucifer 2 chip which helps with this problem a bit, and the slight imbalance it gives shouldn't matter that much on Drift.
But I don’t think Lucifer II chip will make a difference to stop it from bursting against something like rage.
(Mar. 25, 2021  12:46 PM)AlexTheBlader Wrote: [ -> ]
(Mar. 25, 2021  5:39 AM)Shido-kun Wrote: [ -> ]Drift has a weak spring, but I don't think anything would make it burst that consistently in an opposite spin scenario even without a double chassis. Especially when you have the option to use the Lucifer 2 chip which helps with this problem a bit, and the slight imbalance it gives shouldn't matter that much on Drift.
But I don’t think Lucifer II chip will make a difference to stop it from bursting against something like rage.
From the testing I've seen in the LTc thread, stock LTc alone was tanking Rage Spriggan Evolution' 3A, and from my own testing(without Spriggan) it was doing relatively well against even Jolt' and Extreme'.

I'd imagine a single chassis would have similar results since the limit break rings' teeth are supposed to be loose due to their gimmicks, while something like 1S at least feels moderately tight.
Lucifer II doesn't make beys unbalanced, does it? My friend has Lucifer The End and he said it doesn't.
(Mar. 25, 2021  1:55 PM)PeppzieCola Wrote: [ -> ]Lucifer II doesn't make beys unbalanced, does it? My friend has Lucifer The End and he said it doesn't.
All wide Chips make them unbalanced and lose a tiny bit of LAD.
(Mar. 25, 2021  1:55 PM)PeppzieCola Wrote: [ -> ]Lucifer II doesn't make beys unbalanced, does it? My friend has Lucifer The End and he said it doesn't.

It's the placement of the metal
(Mar. 25, 2021  4:28 PM)KerbeusKmie Wrote: [ -> ]
(Mar. 25, 2021  1:55 PM)PeppzieCola Wrote: [ -> ]Lucifer II doesn't make beys unbalanced, does it? My friend has Lucifer The End and he said it doesn't.

It's the placement of the metal

the metal is planted triangularly, that's why its unbalanced.