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Quote:Trends in the opinions of America's youngest voters are often a barometer of shifting political winds. And that appears to be the case in 2008. The current generation of young voters, who came of age during the George W. Bush years, is leading the way in giving the Democrats a wide advantage in party identification, just as the previous generation of young people who grew up in the Reagan years -- Generation X -- fueled the Republican surge of the mid-1990's.

In surveys conducted between October 2007 and March 2008, 58% of voters under age 30 identified or leaned toward the Democratic Party, compared with 33% who identified or leaned toward the GOP. The Democratic Party's current lead in party identification among young voters has more than doubled since the 2004 campaign, from 11 points to 25 points.
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Quote:In fact, the Democrats' advantage among the young is now so broad-based that younger men as well as younger women favor the Democrats over the GOP -- making their age category the only one in the electorate in which men are significantly more inclined to self-identify as Democrats rather than as Republicans.

While more women voters in every age group affiliate with the Democratic Party rather than the GOP, the gap is particularly striking among young women voters; more than twice as many women voters under age 30 identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party as favor the Republican Party (63% vs. 28%).

This analysis is part of a series of reports on changes in the balance of party identification in the electorate. On March 20, the Center released breakdown of trends in party identification in Republican "red" states, Democratic "blue" states, and politically contested swing states.
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Quote:The Democratic Party has not always held an edge among the young. In 1992, young voters divided their partisan loyalties roughly evenly (46% Democratic, 47% Republican). By 1996, young voters were more Democratic than Republican, and the Democratic advantage increased slightly in 2000 and 2004.

Age differences in party affiliation are a result of a variety of influences, including the circumstances of individuals at different points in the life cycle as well as generational differences that reflect the political climate at the time when individuals were forming their political identity and loyalties. As the data from 1992 clearly show, young people are not necessarily more liberal or Democratic by virtue of their age alone.

The youngest voters in 1992 -- the members of Generation X -- were more Republican than most other age groups, in part reflecting the fact that they had come of age politically during a time in which conservative ideas were ascendant and the presidency was held by a popular Republican, Ronald Reagan.

In addition, those in the latter half of the Baby Boom generation, who were in their late 20s to mid-30s in 1992, also were more Republican than average; many of these individuals developed their political leanings in the late 1970s, during the troubled presidency of Jimmy Carter. By contrast, older Baby Boomers, who came of age politically during the turbulent and unpopular presidency of Richard Nixon, were more Democratic than most other age groups. Among older Americans in 1992, most of those then in their 50s -- also known as the "Silent" generation -- had come of age during the Eisenhower administration. Those ages 60 and older reached adulthood during the Democratic presidencies of Harry Truman and Franklin D. Roosevelt. Much of this generation is known as the "Greatest Generation," in honor of the sacrifices many made during World War I
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I touched upon this in my random thoughts post, but I thought i'd share here. Hopefully this pans out with the upcoming election (where young voters actually come out to vote)
You better carp believe I'm voting.

And it sure as hell won't be for McCain.
I love how the Republicans are media ghosts in this upcoming election.

I'm almost certain the coverage between Barack and Hillary is already much more intense than the race between the winner and McCain will ever get.
It's probably not going to affect the local opinion of western society much =/
Composer of Requiems Wrote:It's probably not going to affect the local opinion of western society much =/

Is the USA not very popular in Singapore?

Funny, a lot of the world loved us under Bill Clinton, but Bush has totally reversed that.
Composer of Requiems Wrote:It's probably not going to affect the local opinion of western society much =/

that's okay singapore is kind of insanely conservative anyway
I'm usually neutral in things like this, but I'm honestly hoping Obama wins. Despite what many people say or think, I honestly think he'll have a good chance against McCain. I also think that if they set some random guy up against McCain for the Democrats that that guy would win. Simply put, people are fed up with the way the Republicans have been running the country for the past eight years, the Democrats seem to be wanting to put some normalicy and sanity back into the US.

Also, I feel like karate chopping Wright in the nuts.
Artie Wrote:
Composer of Requiems Wrote:It's probably not going to affect the local opinion of western society much =/

Is the USA not very popular in Singapore?

Funny, a lot of the world loved us under Bill Clinton, but Bush has totally reversed that.

To be honest, most Asians don't really have a very good impression of Americans, or Western society in general. Most of us Asians like individual Westerners, but not Western society as a whole, which strikes me as rather weird.

It isn't just Bush. The effects of Bush are mainly on a more political level; the cultural level of unpopularity already existed before this. Many people here think along the lines of "It's good that Bush is going to be gone, but whoever becomes the next president, Americans are still going to be the same." These people generally don't need to look at politics since its something happening to a far-away country and don't really connect the politics to the local changes e.g. price of food and so on. Many Asians seen Westerns as overly outgoing and bumbling; I suppose many Westerners have an Asian stereotype as cunning and untrustworthy?

In the end, it all boils down to racial stereotypes I suppose.
Composer of Requiems Wrote:
Artie Wrote:
Composer of Requiems Wrote:It's probably not going to affect the local opinion of western society much =/

Is the USA not very popular in Singapore?

Funny, a lot of the world loved us under Bill Clinton, but Bush has totally reversed that.

To be honest, most Asians don't really have a very good impression of Americans, or Western society in general. Most of us Asians like individual Westerners, but not Western society as a whole, which strikes me as rather weird.

It isn't just Bush. The effects of Bush are mainly on a more political level; the cultural level of unpopularity already existed before this. Many people here think along the lines of "It's good that Bush is going to be gone, but whoever becomes the next president, Americans are still going to be the same." These people generally don't need to look at politics since its something happening to a far-away country and don't really connect the politics to the local changes e.g. price of food and so on. Many Asians seen Westerns as overly outgoing and bumbling; I suppose many Westerners have an Asian stereotype as cunning and untrustworthy?

In the end, it all boils down to racial stereotypes I suppose.

My question is whether these stereotypes were more or less prevalent before Bush took office.
Artie Wrote:
Composer of Requiems Wrote:
Artie Wrote:
Composer of Requiems Wrote:It's probably not going to affect the local opinion of western society much =/

Is the USA not very popular in Singapore?

Funny, a lot of the world loved us under Bill Clinton, but Bush has totally reversed that.

To be honest, most Asians don't really have a very good impression of Americans, or Western society in general. Most of us Asians like individual Westerners, but not Western society as a whole, which strikes me as rather weird.

It isn't just Bush. The effects of Bush are mainly on a more political level; the cultural level of unpopularity already existed before this. Many people here think along the lines of "It's good that Bush is going to be gone, but whoever becomes the next president, Americans are still going to be the same." These people generally don't need to look at politics since its something happening to a far-away country and don't really connect the politics to the local changes e.g. price of food and so on. Many Asians seen Westerns as overly outgoing and bumbling; I suppose many Westerners have an Asian stereotype as cunning and untrustworthy?

In the end, it all boils down to racial stereotypes I suppose.

My question is whether these stereotypes were more or less prevalent before Bush took office.
I personally doubt it. Bush coming into office was rather long ago, and my memories from those days are rather fuzzy. But I don't recall seeing people thinking very differently about Western society.

Also, from current inspection, there seems to me to be generally two stereotypes going on, the "Westerner" stereotype and the "President Bush" stereotype. Most people here who poke fun of Bush don't really correlate it to Western society (although they usually also poke fun at Western society as well).
The whole "individualist" western culture system vs. the "collectivist" Asian culture system has always created a cultural barrier between the two parts of the world.
Ugh, I hate this topic. It makes me wanna argue about this but I can't..... This sux.
Generation x?

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I'm a fan of that.
Pichuscute Wrote:Ugh, I hate this topic. It makes me wanna argue about this but I can't..... This sux.

Excuse me?

Jasonreno: Yeah, this is a serious topic about a topic I feel strongly about. Save it for Random Thoughts.
OBAMATAR 8D
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But seriously, I'm curious to see what you have to argue, Pichuscute. It's just data on how the country is moving from center right to center left
^^ That's not a very serious picture either -__-

The data speaks for itself, I don't know exactly what there is to discuss?
Well, its not the data, its the part where America is better since its not republican, I am independent, or would be, but I lean Republican, I just don't really agree with some of the things that Obama or Clinton want to do. (I don't completely agree with McCain either, but I agree the most with him, so oh well.)Btw, I can't really argue either since I don't know much about the candidates, I just remember which one I wanted vote for ( I did I project on it). But, ya , its more opinion than anything else. I also was thinking of bringing Global Warmning( which was mainly what I was gonna argue about) but I won't because its not worth it anymore.
Pichuscute Wrote:Well, its not the data, its the part where America is better since its not republican, I am independent, or would be, but I lean Republican, I just don't really agree with some of the things that Obama or Clinton want to do. (I don't completely agree with McCain either, but I agree the most with him, so oh well.)Btw, I can't really argue either since I don't know much about the candidates, I just remember which one I wanted vote for ( I did I project on it). But, ya , its more opinion than anything else. I also was thinking of bringing Global Warmning( which was mainly what I was gonna argue about) but I won't because its not worth it anymore.

For the most part, I am very moderate. It's only recently that I've gotten the propensity to agree with Liberal ideas.

The data is showing the American's people dissatisfaction with the Republican party. Who can blame them? The party is a shell of its former self; one that Christian Evangelicals cling to. The kinds of people who don't want gay marriage-- why I do not know. What happened to separation of church and state-- and want all abortions illegal (personally, I want it so it's only in extreme cases so it's not contrived to become a form of birth control). If the Republican Party is to survive and not go the way of the Whigs, it has to reinvent itself; something the Democratic Party has been able to do.

I may not be as Liberal as Obama, but this country needs to change and get back the respect it once had in the world.

P.S. Jason, I was probably harsh but it's probably not a good thing that I come into one of my old topics to see a picture of a wrestler. I apologize. As for what's there to discuss, I'm going to assume you're joking? It seems we're having a discussion now (?) and have been since the thread has started?
I'm an Obama supporter through-and-through. If I was 18, I'd sure as hell vote for him. Honestly, no one else has anything to bring to the table that's new.
I understand man, I'm sorry about that. I was doin' it for the cheap lul'z. I'll actually make up for it and partake in the discussion.

I'm an Obama supporter though I'll admit I'm not that well informed. I really hate politics and everything behind it as a whole but Barack struck me for whatever reason.

FYI, the majority of kids my age around here are in love with Ron Paul.
If I knew what propensity and Evangicals was/were than I could answer that post, lol. I never heard of those words sorry. But, i'll try. First of all, Christians don't want gays to marry because being gay is wrong to them/us. I'm Christian and I never really liked the idea of them marrying but I don't really care (cuz they're going to hell anyways, hehe, naw jk). I completely agree with you on abortion, tho. But when has the church and state not been seperated? Only thing I know about that should be seperated from each other are science and politics (global warming. many ppl bring politics into it, wtf).
Pichuscute Wrote:First of all, Christians don't want gays to marry because being gay is wrong to them/us. I'm Christian and I never really liked the idea of them marrying but I don't really care (cuz they're going to hell anyways, hehe, naw jk).

This is totally ridiculous, but I'm sure you knew that already.

By your logic, I could apply this same statement:

I think being a Christian is wrong, so therefore that entire group of people should be denied basic civil rights.

Edit: Also, I really have an inclination to believe that you aren't just kidding about them going to hell.
Pichuscute Wrote:If I knew what propensity and Evangicals was/were than I could answer that post, lol. I never heard of those words sorry. But, i'll try. First of all, Christians don't want gays to marry because being gay is wrong to them/us. I'm Christian and I never really liked the idea of them marrying but I don't really care (cuz they're going to hell anyways, hehe, naw jk). I completely agree with you on abortion, tho. But when has the church and state not been seperated? Only thing I know about that should be seperated from each other are science and politics (global warming. many ppl bring politics into it, wtf).

If you're not going to even make an effort to look up words, then don't even bother.

Christians don't want gays to marry? Why? I study theology every day and I have NEVER seen this in the Bible, nor in the commentaries. In fact, your savior preaches equality for everyone. Why can't you follow the same example?

And your last argument (or lack thereof) makes absolutely no sense. Do you know what separation of church and state is? If you did, you would see they have NOT been separated during the Bush Administration (like on abortion or gay marriage legislation). Science and politics shouldn't be separated? Global warming isn't political? Someone that affects the economy as great as it possibly can?

Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about here.
Artie Wrote:
Pichuscute Wrote:If I knew what propensity and Evangicals was/were than I could answer that post, lol. I never heard of those words sorry. But, i'll try. First of all, Christians don't want gays to marry because being gay is wrong to them/us. I'm Christian and I never really liked the idea of them marrying but I don't really care. I completely agree with you on abortion, tho. But when has the church and state not been seperated? Only thing I know about that should be seperated from each other are science and politics (global warming. many ppl bring politics into it, wtf).

If you're not going to even make an effort to look up words, then don't even bother.

Christians don't want gays to marry? Why? I study theology every day and I have NEVER seen this in the Bible, nor in the commentaries. In fact, your savior preaches equality for everyone. Why can't you follow the same example?

And your last argument (or lack thereof) makes absolutely no sense. Do you know what separation of church and state is? If you did, you would see they have NOT been separated during the Bush Administration (like on abortion or gay marriage legislation). Science and politics shouldn't be separated? Global warming isn't political? Someone that affects the economy as great as it possibly can?

Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about here.
Like I said, I don't really care one way or the other about gays getting married, they can as far as I'm concerned, I guess. There is a place somewhere in the bible (my mom said) that Jesus said that men should only be with women and vice versa. But
I can't really back it up since I don't have proof. I also was on my PS3 and only had enuff time left to post real quick before I had to get off. I checked them after, tho. Also, I don't really know what I'm talking about when it comes top the Bush Administration so your probably right, I'm just trying to back up Republicans/Christians and in vain, lol. Finally, global warming has been taken way too far in politics to the point that if you believe that it is false than you get called worse holocaust denier, but I guess your right about it being involved in politics if global warming is true.
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