Dec. 30, 2015 9:06 PM
I was going to do benchmark tests with Accel, but I figured it would be kind of a waste of time and add more wear to the Valkyrie layer, we know that Accel is pretty much below 50% win rate, anything over 50% is what we are looking for. I also thought of using Quake attack as a benchmark, but that is a somewhat complex technique that is going to vary by user.
Equipment
Procedure
Xcaliber Heavy Xtreme vs. Odin Heavy Defense
Xcaliber Heavy Xtreme: 5 wins (4 BF, 1 KO)
Odin Heavy Defense: 15 wins (5 BF, 10 SF)
2 draw (All DBF)
Xcaliber Heavy Xtreme win %: 25%
Average clicks lost per round:
Xcaliber Heavy Xtreme: 2.35
Odin Heavy Defense: 2.6
Round by Round
Xcaliber, disappointingly, seems pretty awful. Maybe not quite as bad as this test suggests, but still pretty bad on this driver and disk setup anyway. Hopefully we can find a combo that makes it useful
Valkyrie Heavy Xtreme vs. Odin Heavy Defense
Valkyrie Heavy Xtreme: 13 wins (9 BF, 4 KO)
Odin Heavy Defense: 7 wins (1 BF, 1 KO, 5 SF)
1 draw (DBF)
Valkyrie Heavy Xtreme win %: 65%
Average clicks lost per round:
Valkyrie Heavy Xtreme: 2.1
Odin Heavy Defense: 2.85
Round by Round
Valkyrie seems to do really well, it gets a lot of KO's and bursts and rarely bursts itself (when new anyway).
Spriggan Heavy Xtreme vs. Odin Heavy Defense
Spriggan Heavy Xtreme: 9 wins (8 BF, 1 KO)
Odin Heavy Defense: 11 wins (4 BF, 2 KO, 5 SF)
0 draw
Spriggan Heavy Xtreme win %: 45%
Average clicks lost per round:
Spriggan Heavy Xtreme: 2.3
Odin Heavy Defense: 2.65
Round by Round
For some reason, Spriggan doesn't seem to do as well on Xtreme as Valkyrie does. It seems to have a tendancy to burst itself sometimes, which I think is the difference between the two.
Minoboros Heavy Xtreme vs. Odin Heavy Defense
Minoboros Heavy Xtreme: 8 wins (3 BF, 5 KO)
Odin Heavy Defense: 12 wins (2 BF, 1 KO, 9 SF)
1 draw (DBF)
Minoboros Heavy Xtreme win %: 40%
Average clicks lost per round:
Minoboros Heavy Xtreme: 2.05
Odin Heavy Defense: 1.95
Round by Round
Valkyrie Ring Xtreme vs. Odin Heavy Defense
Valkyrie Ring Xtreme: 10 wins (8 BF, 2 KO)
Odin Heavy Defense: 10 wins (1 BF, 9 SF)
1 draw (DBF)
Valkyrie Ring Xtreme win %: 50%
Average clicks lost per round:
Valkyrie Ring Xtreme: 1.65
Odin Heavy Defense: 2.75
Round by Round
Valkyrie Spread Xtreme vs. Odin Heavy Defense
Valkyrie Spread Xtreme: 7 wins (5 BF, 2 KO)
Odin Heavy Defense: 13 wins (1 BF, 3 KO, 9 SF)
0 draws
Valkyrie Spread Xtreme win %: 35%
Average clicks lost per round:
Valkyrie Spread Xtreme: 1.9
Odin Heavy Defense: 2.55
Round by Round
The numbers were a little disappointing. I was hoping that we would finally be able to use something other than Heavy for attack. Ring and Spread definitely make the bey faster, but they just don't hit quite as hard it seems. Heavy and Ring seem to be pretty close and when you hit that exact right launch speed with Ring, it can do really well (notice the latter half of the test with it). It seems to me, though, that Heavy edges it out by a little bit. Force = Mass x Acceleration, so both mass and speed determine how much force is directed at the defending bey. It seems to me that the weight of Heavy adds a little bit more to the equation than the speed of Ring does. There is the advantage of not taking as much of a hit, being lighter. You get knocked back a bit more as opposed Bursting yourself, but this can also translate into getting KO'ed. So, from what I have seen so far, I would give Heavy the edge by a little bit, but this is only one test by one person, so I am interested to see what other people get for results and have to say about it.
Equipment
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B-08 stadium
String Launcher
Grip
Beylogger
Odin
Valkyrie
Spriggan
Xcaliber
Heavy disk x2
Defense driver
Xtreme Driver
All parts were roughly at the same stage of wear (minimal) (except Valkyrie, which was brand new)
String Launcher
Grip
Beylogger
Odin
Valkyrie
Spriggan
Xcaliber
Heavy disk x2
Defense driver
Xtreme Driver
All parts were roughly at the same stage of wear (minimal) (except Valkyrie, which was brand new)
Procedure
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-Defensive bey was launched first every round
-Only rounds where both beys were launched properly were counted
-Like parts are swapped after 10 rounds
-Driver tips were cleaned with a wet paper towel after every few rounds
-Only rounds where both beys were launched properly were counted
-Like parts are swapped after 10 rounds
-Driver tips were cleaned with a wet paper towel after every few rounds
Xcaliber Heavy Xtreme vs. Odin Heavy Defense
Xcaliber Heavy Xtreme: 5 wins (4 BF, 1 KO)
Odin Heavy Defense: 15 wins (5 BF, 10 SF)
2 draw (All DBF)
Xcaliber Heavy Xtreme win %: 25%
Average clicks lost per round:
Xcaliber Heavy Xtreme: 2.35
Odin Heavy Defense: 2.6
Round by Round
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1: Xcaliber wins, BF, X1
2: Odin wins, SF, O1, X2
3: Odin wins, BF, O3
4: Xcaliber wins, KO, X1, O2
5: Odin wins, SF, O2, X1
6: Odin wins, BF, O1
7: Odin wins, BF, O2
8: Xcaliber wins, BF, X3
9: Odin wins, BF, O3
10: Odin wins, BF, O3
11: Odin wins, SF, O2, X2
12: Odin wins, SF, O2, X0
13: Odin wins, SF, O2, X2
14: Odin wins, SF, O3, X1
15: Xcaliber wins, BF, X3
16: Odin wins, SF, O3, X2
17: Odin wins, SF, O3, X2
18: Odin wins, SF, O3, X3
19: Xcaliber wins, BF, X2
20: Odin wins, SF, O1, X2
2: Odin wins, SF, O1, X2
3: Odin wins, BF, O3
4: Xcaliber wins, KO, X1, O2
5: Odin wins, SF, O2, X1
6: Odin wins, BF, O1
7: Odin wins, BF, O2
8: Xcaliber wins, BF, X3
9: Odin wins, BF, O3
10: Odin wins, BF, O3
11: Odin wins, SF, O2, X2
12: Odin wins, SF, O2, X0
13: Odin wins, SF, O2, X2
14: Odin wins, SF, O3, X1
15: Xcaliber wins, BF, X3
16: Odin wins, SF, O3, X2
17: Odin wins, SF, O3, X2
18: Odin wins, SF, O3, X3
19: Xcaliber wins, BF, X2
20: Odin wins, SF, O1, X2
Xcaliber, disappointingly, seems pretty awful. Maybe not quite as bad as this test suggests, but still pretty bad on this driver and disk setup anyway. Hopefully we can find a combo that makes it useful
Valkyrie Heavy Xtreme vs. Odin Heavy Defense
Valkyrie Heavy Xtreme: 13 wins (9 BF, 4 KO)
Odin Heavy Defense: 7 wins (1 BF, 1 KO, 5 SF)
1 draw (DBF)
Valkyrie Heavy Xtreme win %: 65%
Average clicks lost per round:
Valkyrie Heavy Xtreme: 2.1
Odin Heavy Defense: 2.85
Round by Round
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1: Valkyrie wins, BF, V3
2: Valkyrie wins, BF, V3
3: Odin wins, SF, O3, V3
4: Valkyrie wins, KO, V1, O1
5: Odin wins, SF, O2, V3
6: Valkyrie wins, KO, V0, O1
7: Valkyrie wins, KO, V2, O2
8: Odin wins, SF, O3, V2
9: Valkyrie wins, BF, V3
10: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
11: Valkyrie wins, BF, V3
12: Odin wins, SF, O1, V2
13: Odin wins, KO, O1, V1
14: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
15: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
16: Odin wins, SF, O3, V1
17: Odin wins, BF, O3
18: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
19: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
20: Valkyrie wins, KO, V1, O1
2: Valkyrie wins, BF, V3
3: Odin wins, SF, O3, V3
4: Valkyrie wins, KO, V1, O1
5: Odin wins, SF, O2, V3
6: Valkyrie wins, KO, V0, O1
7: Valkyrie wins, KO, V2, O2
8: Odin wins, SF, O3, V2
9: Valkyrie wins, BF, V3
10: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
11: Valkyrie wins, BF, V3
12: Odin wins, SF, O1, V2
13: Odin wins, KO, O1, V1
14: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
15: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
16: Odin wins, SF, O3, V1
17: Odin wins, BF, O3
18: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
19: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
20: Valkyrie wins, KO, V1, O1
Valkyrie seems to do really well, it gets a lot of KO's and bursts and rarely bursts itself (when new anyway).
Spriggan Heavy Xtreme vs. Odin Heavy Defense
Spriggan Heavy Xtreme: 9 wins (8 BF, 1 KO)
Odin Heavy Defense: 11 wins (4 BF, 2 KO, 5 SF)
0 draw
Spriggan Heavy Xtreme win %: 45%
Average clicks lost per round:
Spriggan Heavy Xtreme: 2.3
Odin Heavy Defense: 2.65
Round by Round
Spoiler (Click to View)
1: Spriggan wins, BF, S3
2: Spriggan wins, BF, S2
3: Odin wins, SF, O2, S2
4: Odin wins, KO, O1, S0
5: Spriggan wins, BF, S2
6: Spriggan wins, BF, S2
7: Odin wins, BF, O2
8: Spriggan wins, BF, S1
9: Odin wins, KO, O1, S1
10: Odin wins, SF, O3, S2
11: Odin wins, BF, O1
12: Odin wins, BF, O3
13: Odin wins, SF, O2, S2
14: Odin wins, BF, O1
15: Spriggan wins, BF, S2
16: Odin wins, SF, O2, S2
17: Odin wins, SF, O3, S2
18: Odin wins, KO, O2, S0
19: Spriggan wins, BF, S2
20: Spriggan wins, BF, S3
2: Spriggan wins, BF, S2
3: Odin wins, SF, O2, S2
4: Odin wins, KO, O1, S0
5: Spriggan wins, BF, S2
6: Spriggan wins, BF, S2
7: Odin wins, BF, O2
8: Spriggan wins, BF, S1
9: Odin wins, KO, O1, S1
10: Odin wins, SF, O3, S2
11: Odin wins, BF, O1
12: Odin wins, BF, O3
13: Odin wins, SF, O2, S2
14: Odin wins, BF, O1
15: Spriggan wins, BF, S2
16: Odin wins, SF, O2, S2
17: Odin wins, SF, O3, S2
18: Odin wins, KO, O2, S0
19: Spriggan wins, BF, S2
20: Spriggan wins, BF, S3
For some reason, Spriggan doesn't seem to do as well on Xtreme as Valkyrie does. It seems to have a tendancy to burst itself sometimes, which I think is the difference between the two.
Minoboros Heavy Xtreme vs. Odin Heavy Defense
Minoboros Heavy Xtreme: 8 wins (3 BF, 5 KO)
Odin Heavy Defense: 12 wins (2 BF, 1 KO, 9 SF)
1 draw (DBF)
Minoboros Heavy Xtreme win %: 40%
Average clicks lost per round:
Minoboros Heavy Xtreme: 2.05
Odin Heavy Defense: 1.95
Round by Round
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1: Minoboros wins, KO, M1, O1
2: Odin wins, SF, O2, M2
3: Minoboros wins, KO, M1, O0
4: Odin wins, BF, O1
5: Odin wins, SF, O1, M3
6: Odin wins, SF, O2, M2
7: Odin wins, SF, O2, M2
8: Odin wins, SF, O2, M2
9: Minoboros wins, KO, M1, O1
10: Odin wins, KO, O2, M3
11: Odin wins, SF, O2, M2
12: Minoboros wins, BF, M2
13: Minoboros wins, KO, M2, O2
14: Odin wins, BF, O3
15: Odin wins, SF, O2, M1
16: Minoboros wins, BF, M2
17: Minoboros wins, BF, M2
18: Odin wins, SF, O1, M1
19: Odin wins, SF, O2, M3
20: Minoboros wins, KO, M1, O1
2: Odin wins, SF, O2, M2
3: Minoboros wins, KO, M1, O0
4: Odin wins, BF, O1
5: Odin wins, SF, O1, M3
6: Odin wins, SF, O2, M2
7: Odin wins, SF, O2, M2
8: Odin wins, SF, O2, M2
9: Minoboros wins, KO, M1, O1
10: Odin wins, KO, O2, M3
11: Odin wins, SF, O2, M2
12: Minoboros wins, BF, M2
13: Minoboros wins, KO, M2, O2
14: Odin wins, BF, O3
15: Odin wins, SF, O2, M1
16: Minoboros wins, BF, M2
17: Minoboros wins, BF, M2
18: Odin wins, SF, O1, M1
19: Odin wins, SF, O2, M3
20: Minoboros wins, KO, M1, O1
Valkyrie Ring Xtreme vs. Odin Heavy Defense
Valkyrie Ring Xtreme: 10 wins (8 BF, 2 KO)
Odin Heavy Defense: 10 wins (1 BF, 9 SF)
1 draw (DBF)
Valkyrie Ring Xtreme win %: 50%
Average clicks lost per round:
Valkyrie Ring Xtreme: 1.65
Odin Heavy Defense: 2.75
Round by Round
Spoiler (Click to View)
1: Odin wins, BF, O2
2: Odin wins, SF, O2, V1
3: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
4: Odin wins, SF, O1, V2
5: Valkyrie wins, KO, V1, O3
6: Odin wins, SF, O2, V1
7: Odin wins, SF, O2, V1
8: Valkyrie wins, KO, V2, O3
9: Odin wins, SF, O1, V1
10: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
11: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
12: Odin wins, SF, O1, V2
13: Odin wins, SF, O1, V1
14: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
15: Valkyrie wins, BF, V1
16: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
17: Valkyrie wins, BF, V1
18: Odin wins, SF, O3, V2
19: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
20: Odin wins, SF, O2, V1
2: Odin wins, SF, O2, V1
3: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
4: Odin wins, SF, O1, V2
5: Valkyrie wins, KO, V1, O3
6: Odin wins, SF, O2, V1
7: Odin wins, SF, O2, V1
8: Valkyrie wins, KO, V2, O3
9: Odin wins, SF, O1, V1
10: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
11: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
12: Odin wins, SF, O1, V2
13: Odin wins, SF, O1, V1
14: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
15: Valkyrie wins, BF, V1
16: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
17: Valkyrie wins, BF, V1
18: Odin wins, SF, O3, V2
19: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
20: Odin wins, SF, O2, V1
Valkyrie Spread Xtreme vs. Odin Heavy Defense
Valkyrie Spread Xtreme: 7 wins (5 BF, 2 KO)
Odin Heavy Defense: 13 wins (1 BF, 3 KO, 9 SF)
0 draws
Valkyrie Spread Xtreme win %: 35%
Average clicks lost per round:
Valkyrie Spread Xtreme: 1.9
Odin Heavy Defense: 2.55
Round by Round
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1: Odin wins, SF, O2, V1
2: Odin wins, SF, O3, V1
3: Odin wins, SF, O2, V2
4: Valkyrie wins, BF, V3
5: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
6: Odin wins, SF, O2, V1
7: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
8: Odin wins, KO, O2, V2
9: Valkyrie wins, KO, V1, O1
10: Odin wins, BF, O2
11: Odin wins, SF, O3, V2
12: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
13: Odin wins, SF, O3, V2
14: Odin wins, KO, O2, V3
15: Odin wins, SF, O1, V1
16: Odin wins, SF, O2, V1
17: Valkyrie wins, KO, V2, O1
18: Odin wins, KO, O3, V3
19: Odin wins, SF, O2, V1
20: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
2: Odin wins, SF, O3, V1
3: Odin wins, SF, O2, V2
4: Valkyrie wins, BF, V3
5: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
6: Odin wins, SF, O2, V1
7: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
8: Odin wins, KO, O2, V2
9: Valkyrie wins, KO, V1, O1
10: Odin wins, BF, O2
11: Odin wins, SF, O3, V2
12: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
13: Odin wins, SF, O3, V2
14: Odin wins, KO, O2, V3
15: Odin wins, SF, O1, V1
16: Odin wins, SF, O2, V1
17: Valkyrie wins, KO, V2, O1
18: Odin wins, KO, O3, V3
19: Odin wins, SF, O2, V1
20: Valkyrie wins, BF, V2
The numbers were a little disappointing. I was hoping that we would finally be able to use something other than Heavy for attack. Ring and Spread definitely make the bey faster, but they just don't hit quite as hard it seems. Heavy and Ring seem to be pretty close and when you hit that exact right launch speed with Ring, it can do really well (notice the latter half of the test with it). It seems to me, though, that Heavy edges it out by a little bit. Force = Mass x Acceleration, so both mass and speed determine how much force is directed at the defending bey. It seems to me that the weight of Heavy adds a little bit more to the equation than the speed of Ring does. There is the advantage of not taking as much of a hit, being lighter. You get knocked back a bit more as opposed Bursting yourself, but this can also translate into getting KO'ed. So, from what I have seen so far, I would give Heavy the edge by a little bit, but this is only one test by one person, so I am interested to see what other people get for results and have to say about it.