Jun. 13, 2014 10:42 PM
I feel like this stadium should really have a thread of its own for discussion of whether or not it should be legal. Mine arrived today & I've done a bit of testing. If anyone has any requests or could back up my tests with some of their own, I'd really appreciate it.
Uwik's Testing
The Supreme One's Testing
Geetster99's testing
Overall, I'd say that while the two stadiums have very different styles, there are aspects of one stadium that make up for something it lacks compared to the other. For example, the Super Control only has one wall, but it compensates for what might be an easier KO with pockets to keep attack from dominating. My only concern would be the three holes along the sides that are just big enough for most performance tips to get stuck but, surprisingly, this only happened twice in all my testing.
Uwik's Testing
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(Feb. 07, 2012 5:45 AM)Uwik Wrote: [ -> ]Standard Procedure
Super Control Beystadium vs BB-10 Attack Stadium
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Super Control Beystadium :
MF-H VariAres R145 RF vs. MF-H Duo Bull BD145 RDF
MF-H VariAres R145 RF: 2 win (2 KO)
MF-H Duo Bull BD145 RDF: 18 win (18 OS)
VariAres win percentage: 10%
BB-10 Attack Stadium :
MF-H VariAres R145 RF vs. MF-H Duo Bull BD145 RDF
MF-H VariAres R145 RF: 4 win (2 KO)
MF-H Duo Bull BD145 RDF: 16 win (18 OS)
VariAres win percentage: 20%
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Super Control Beystadium :
MF-H VariAres R145 RF vs. MF-H Phantom AD145 WD
MF-H VariAres R145 RF: 19 win (19 KO)
MF-H Phantom AD145 WD: 1 win (1 OS)
VariAres win percentage: 95%
BB-10 Attack Stadium :
MF-H VariAres R145 RF vs. MF-H Phantom AD145 WD
MF-H VariAres R145 RF: 19 win (19 KO)
MF-H Phantom AD145 WD: 1 win (1 OS)
VariAres win percentage: 95%
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Super Control Beystadium :
MF-H Duo Bull BD145 RDF vs. MF-H Phantom AD145 WD
MF-H Duo Bull BD145 RDF: 0 win (--)
MF-H Phantom AD145 WD: 20 win (20 OS)
VariAres win percentage: 0%
BB-10 Attack Stadium :
MF-H Duo Bull BD145 RDF vs. MF-H Phantom AD145 WD
MF-H Duo Bull BD145 RDF: 0 win (--)
MF-H Phantom AD145 WD: 20 win (20 OS)
VariAres win percentage: 0%
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Launches:
Basic launches such as Tornado Stall, Slide Shoot can be done without any problem on the Super Control BeyStadium, similar to BB-10 Attack Stadium.
Physical observation:
I personally like this Super Control BeyStadium. Based on touch, it feels like the Tornado Ridge is slightly deeper than BB-10 Attack Stadium. The flower pattern is much nicer. Stalling on the ridge is also faster.
There are 2 'pockets'. When launched on these 'pockets', the beys will come down to center within 1-2 seconds, so this is not an issue. The walls on these pockets are 'lower' than the BB-10's walls. In a way, it is to make up the extra distance they bey needs to travel and jump over the wall for wild KOs.
Notes:
There is a tiny bowl between the exit and the pocket area, where the plastic ring in RC battles is placed. Only 1 time VariAres' bottom was caught in it, and could not get out. It killed the stamina almost instantly. However, rest assured that these instances are extremely rare. I've had it happened only once throughout the tests. Prior to it, it has never happened before during casual plays.
Conclusion:
In my personal opinion, the Super Control BeyStadium is definitely a viable stadium to be used in WBO Organized Play. It does not affect the current gameplay in the meta whatsoever. In fact, it performs more similar to the BB-10 when compared to the Balance stadium.
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Super Control Stadium Tests
Earth Cancer W145 WD vs stock Lightning L Drago (Stamina vs Attack)
Earth Cancer: 10/20 (50% win rate)
LLD: 8/20 (40% win rate)
Tie: 2/20 (10% win rate)
Killerken Dragooon SA165 RDF vs Flash Pisces S130 R2F (Defense vs Attack)
Killerken Dragooon: 14/20 (70% win rate)
Flash Pisces: 6/20 (30% win rate)
Note: It appears that, like Uwik noted, it's easier to sliding shoot in the Super Control, however R2F went pretty crazy in the stadium, causing a few self-KOs
Phantom Cancer SA165 MF vs Duo Cancer SA165 WD (Tornado Staller vs Reg. Stamina
Phantom Cancer: 2/10 (20% win rate)
Duo Cancer: 8/10 (80% win rate)
Attack Stadium Tests
Earth Cancer W145 WD vs stock Lightning L Drago (Stamina vs Attack)
Earth Cancer: 6/20 (30% win rate)
LLD: 13/20 (65% win rate)
Tie: 1/20 (5% win rate)
Killerken Dragooon SA165 RDF vs Flash Pisces S130 R2F (Defense vs Attack)
Killerken Dragooon: 12/20 (60% win rate)
Flash Pisces: 7/20 (35% win rate)
Tie: 1/20 (5% win rate)
Phantom Cancer SA165 MF vs Duo Cancer SA165 WD (Tornado Staller vs Reg. Stamina
Duo Cancer: 9/10 (90% win rate)
Phantom Cancer: 1/10 (10% win rate)
Earth Cancer W145 WD vs stock Lightning L Drago (Stamina vs Attack)
Earth Cancer: 10/20 (50% win rate)
LLD: 8/20 (40% win rate)
Tie: 2/20 (10% win rate)
Killerken Dragooon SA165 RDF vs Flash Pisces S130 R2F (Defense vs Attack)
Killerken Dragooon: 14/20 (70% win rate)
Flash Pisces: 6/20 (30% win rate)
Note: It appears that, like Uwik noted, it's easier to sliding shoot in the Super Control, however R2F went pretty crazy in the stadium, causing a few self-KOs
Phantom Cancer SA165 MF vs Duo Cancer SA165 WD (Tornado Staller vs Reg. Stamina
Phantom Cancer: 2/10 (20% win rate)
Duo Cancer: 8/10 (80% win rate)
Attack Stadium Tests
Earth Cancer W145 WD vs stock Lightning L Drago (Stamina vs Attack)
Earth Cancer: 6/20 (30% win rate)
LLD: 13/20 (65% win rate)
Tie: 1/20 (5% win rate)
Killerken Dragooon SA165 RDF vs Flash Pisces S130 R2F (Defense vs Attack)
Killerken Dragooon: 12/20 (60% win rate)
Flash Pisces: 7/20 (35% win rate)
Tie: 1/20 (5% win rate)
Phantom Cancer SA165 MF vs Duo Cancer SA165 WD (Tornado Staller vs Reg. Stamina
Duo Cancer: 9/10 (90% win rate)
Phantom Cancer: 1/10 (10% win rate)
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(Jun. 23, 2014 9:47 PM)geetster99 Wrote: [ -> ]Bb10
Duo cancer w145 wd vs mf-h flash Orion gb145 r2f
Duo: 1 win (1 os)
Flash: 19 wins(all ko)
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Super control
Duo cancer w145 wd vs mf-h flash Orion gb145 r2f
Duo: 2 wins (1os 1 ko)
Flash :18 wins (all ko)
Overall, I'd say that while the two stadiums have very different styles, there are aspects of one stadium that make up for something it lacks compared to the other. For example, the Super Control only has one wall, but it compensates for what might be an easier KO with pockets to keep attack from dominating. My only concern would be the three holes along the sides that are just big enough for most performance tips to get stuck but, surprisingly, this only happened twice in all my testing.
If anyone else could provide some tests to confirm the legitimacy of this stadium, I would really appreciate it because I'm leaving for CT next thursday & if the Super Control Beystadium is legalized, I'll bring it up with me for tournaments.