May. 20, 2013 9:37 PM
May. 20, 2013 10:08 PM
Can u test this with e230 against the sa165 mb combo? Metal ball really surprised me, does anyone know y it does so well, and how worn is ur mb?
May. 21, 2013 12:27 AM
(May. 20, 2013 10:08 PM)Kyler_the best Wrote: [ -> ]Can u test this with e230 against the sa165 mb combo? Metal ball really surprised me, does anyone know y it does so well, and how worn is ur mb?
My MB is almost new. I don't think E230 would change the sway attacker that much, but this is for comparing tips, so I don't really want to get into testing other stuff, just so we keep it clean.
May. 23, 2013 7:40 PM
k, thanks man. Anyway, this might be a little of topic, but for sway defense wouldnt it be good if you used C145 with a tip that has bad balance from the S series like MS and when it was sway it wouldscrape and prevent the beyblade from being koed. And if it lost alot of stamina, maybe it could use dragooon so it can spin steal with left spin. So anyone can test MSF-H Killerken Dragooon C145MS/BS/S/ES/ IF YOU DO TEST THIS ONLY TEST AGAINST SWAY ATTACK.
May. 23, 2013 7:58 PM
this thread is to test the tips not tracks, if you introduce a new track in this thread, they will have to test all the tips all over again
May. 23, 2013 9:26 PM
(May. 23, 2013 7:58 PM)Izhkoort Wrote: [ -> ]this thread is to test the tips not tracks, if you introduce a new track in this thread, they will have to test all the tips all over again
Izhkoort is right. That's an interesting theory, actually, but this would probably not be the thread to discuss it.
May. 24, 2013 5:41 AM
Ok, no one has tested RSF so for for sway defense, so I think thats the next thing that should be tested.
May. 24, 2013 5:51 AM
(May. 24, 2013 5:41 AM)diblee123 Wrote: [ -> ]Ok, no one has tested RSF so for for sway defense, so I think thats the next thing that should be tested.
I agree, if SF is being tested then RSF definatly needs to be tested.
May. 24, 2013 7:43 PM
Try MS for sway defense. I think it should be tested as well. We might just find a use for it in 0G.
May. 27, 2013 4:04 AM
(May. 24, 2013 7:43 PM)diblee123 Wrote: [ -> ]Try MS for sway defense. I think it should be tested as well. We might just find a use for it in 0G.
I've already tried it. It doesn't get swayed out at all, but its balance is so terrible that it just gets OSed by anything that sways the stadium.
May. 27, 2013 5:48 AM
Really? even you mean CF, GCF, and other attack tips outspin it? I don't know about that. If it does not get swayed out, than when the attack type bey is done circling it should be WAYYY too low on stamina to do anything.
May. 27, 2013 5:52 AM
F230 RF combos are really good for sawy defense.
May. 27, 2013 5:53 AM
RF doesn't do well in zero-g and F230 is best for defensive purposes.
May. 27, 2013 6:16 AM
With rf or r2f having a wider rubber area then the rest the bottom have of F230 doesn't really move having the sway combo swing itself out
May. 27, 2013 1:08 PM
(May. 27, 2013 5:52 AM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: [ -> ]F230 RF combos are really good for sawy defense.
Tests?
(May. 27, 2013 5:53 AM)diblee123 Wrote: [ -> ]RF doesn't do well in zero-g and F230 is best for defensive purposes.
Since when was F230 best for "defensive purposes"?
(May. 27, 2013 6:16 AM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: [ -> ]With rf or r2f having a wider rubber area then the rest the bottom have of F230 doesn't really move having the sway combo swing itself out
That really does not make any sense to me. Try and explain it a little more.
May. 27, 2013 3:10 PM
(May. 27, 2013 1:08 PM)*Ginga* Wrote: [ -> ](May. 27, 2013 5:52 AM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: [ -> ]F230 RF combos are really good for sawy defense.
Tests?
(May. 27, 2013 6:16 AM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: [ -> ]With rf or r2f having a wider rubber area then the rest the bottom have of F230 doesn't really move having the sway combo swing itself out
That really does not make any sense to me. Try and explain it a little more.
even if possible you would need a really good F230, like if it was a B : D you will need a 7 min mold, you need a F230 "that" good because it doesn't have bearings, maybe I didn't explain myself very well...
May. 27, 2013 7:13 PM
(May. 27, 2013 1:08 PM)*Ginga* Wrote: [ -> ]What I'm saying is that if your going to use a rubber tip on F230 use a rubber flat variant because its wider radius of rubber helps better against sway attackers than using a RS or RSF. When you use F230RF the bottom half of F230 moves very little making the the opponent sway attacker sway itself out(May. 27, 2013 5:52 AM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: [ -> ]F230 RF combos are really good for sawy defense.
Tests?
(May. 27, 2013 5:53 AM)diblee123 Wrote: [ -> ]RF doesn't do well in zero-g and F230 is best for defensive purposes.
Since when was F230 best for "defensive purposes"?
(May. 27, 2013 6:16 AM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: [ -> ]With rf or r2f having a wider rubber area then the rest the bottom have of F230 doesn't really move having the sway combo swing itself out
That really does not make any sense to me. Try and explain it a little more.
May. 27, 2013 8:24 PM
Have you heard of F230RS? said Since when F230 was best for defensive purposes/
May. 27, 2013 10:15 PM
F230 has hardly been tested at all, so making claims for or against its performance sway-defense-wise is pretty much pointless... but I've tried RF and RS just does way better in terms of sway-defense. However, if you're getting different results, I'd love to see some tests!
May. 27, 2013 10:21 PM
I really want to see some test results for MS, and if you have tested it, please post your results.
Also, to counter sway attack, why not use a bey of the opposite rotation?
For example Balro Balro SP230GF vs Phoenic Dragooon E230GF. They will cancel the sway attack out.
May. 28, 2013 12:10 AM
(May. 27, 2013 10:21 PM)diblee123 Wrote: [ -> ]
I really want to see some test results for MS, and if you have tested it, please post your results.
Also, to counter sway attack, why not use a bey of the opposite rotation?
For example Balro Balro SP230GF vs Phoenic Dragooon E230GF. They will cancel the sway attack out.
'cause we're testing out PERFORMANCE TIPS.
I'll have your tests up in a few minutes...
EDIT: Heeeerrrreeee'sss the test!
Spoiler (Click to View)
Balro Balro SP230GF vs. Killerken Killerken SA165MS
Killerken launched first on all launches.
Balro: wins, 9/20 (1 KO, 8 OS)
Killerken: wins, 11/20 (4 KO, 7 OS)
MS win rate: 55%
I would like to point some things out...
1) MS barely won out. It pulled a lower win rate than any other tip I have tested...
2) This killerken combo was used with SA165, so scraping didn't effect it nearly as much. With a track besides SA165, this thing will scrape to death much easier that it did during these tests...
3) GF is not that hard to OS. GCF/CF would OS this even more easily.
4) We all know this would most likely get absolutely destroyed by anything else in the meta, since MS is known for its terrible balance and defense.
5) Killerken got like a billion freak-KOs. I have absolutely no idea how it did it, but it just kept bouncing back off the wall while balro slipped out of a pocket. That will almost certainly NOT happen in a normal situation.
6) Anything left-spin would OS this with absolutely no problem.
So, all in all, this thing can barely win against only sway-attack types using GF, if it uses SA165 and happens to get a bunch of freak KOs. So it's a long shot against anything. i wouldn't use it, but if you really like it that much, I guess you could try it!
May. 28, 2013 9:35 PM
Thanks for the tests man! I don't have 0g stadium, but anyone else who has it and the parts should test along with you. I feel your doing all the work here. Anyways, someone test RB?
May. 28, 2013 11:39 PM
(May. 28, 2013 9:35 PM)diblee123 Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for the tests man! I don't have 0g stadium, but anyone else who has it and the parts should test along with you. I feel your doing all the work here. Anyways, someone test RB?
Well, I kinda asked for it when I made the thread. I think shinobuXD said somewhere that RB doesn't do too great, but I don't have it.
May. 29, 2013 1:34 AM
He did, in the zero-g developmental top tier list thread, but I want to see some actual tests.
May. 30, 2013 2:48 AM
(May. 27, 2013 8:24 PM)diblee123 Wrote: [ -> ]Have you heard of F230RS?said Since when F230 was best for defensive purposes/
That was me, and you realize that the user that suggested F230RS was banned for false tests.
I would like my time back.