World Beyblade Organization by Fighting Spirits Inc.

Alright, so to start this thread off, I just recently received my two BBG-13’s. Being eager to test the new Killer Chrome Wheel, I synchromed the two Killerken Chrome Wheel's. Interestingly, I started to see that in most of the tests (Versus a Flash Attack Combo), Killerken Killerken did get 100% win rates. I continued to test and was extremely pleased with the results. Even though Killerken does weigh a bit less than Revizer and Saramanda, it is somewhat thicker. This thickness helped it out in the long run as it provided better defense than Revizer.

Part Explanation:

MSF-H: This is by far the Heaviest Stone Face. As a result, I had to test it out in this combo !

Killerken Killerken: Being one of the newest chrome wheels introduced, I had to test it out. Killerken Killeken weighs 60.9 grams on my kitchen weight scale. This is essential for this combo due to its excellent weight combined with its thickness.

E230: Currenly being the best defense track, E230 really helps in blocking attacks and adds a good 7 grams of weight to this already heavy combo.

RDF: Accoridng to me, RDF has the best defense out of any bottom bar RS. It has better balance and stamina than RS making it a superior choice in bottom selection. I find that even though RDF does have less stamina than CS, the better defense makes up for it.

Equipment Used:

BB-10 Attack Type Stadium

Launcher Grip
Mars Red LR Launcher
Grip Rubber
Grip extender
Metal Trigger
Angle Compass (TT)
Beypointer

Now for the tests.

Attack Tests:
(R2F is prime and RDF is in near mint condition. My Flash in in mint condition.)

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF vs MF-H Flash Escolpio S130 R2F

MSF-H Killerken Killernken E230 RDF 20/20 (20 OS)
MF-H Flash Escolpio S130 R2F 0/20
Killerken Killerken Win Rate 100%

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF vs MF-H Flash Escolpio H145 R2F

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF 19/20 (18 OS)
MF-H Flash Escolpio H145 R2F 1/20 (1 OS)
Killerken Killerken Win Rate 95 %

The one out spin was from Killerken Killerken losing stamina because of RDF's plastic ring.

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF vs MF-H Flash Escolpio D125 R2F

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF 20/20 (20 OS)
MF-H Flash Escolpio D125 R2F 0/20
Killerken Killerken Win Rate 100%

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF vs MF-H Flash Escolpio CH120 R2F

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF 19/20 (19 OS)
MF-H Flash Escolpio CH120 R2F 1/20 (1 OS)
Killerken Killerken Win Rate 95%

Again, I got outspun once due to RDF's plastic ring.

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF vs MF-H Flash Escolpio CH145 R2F

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF 20/20 (20 OS)
MF-H Flash Escolpio CH145 R2F 0/20
Killerken Killerken Win Rate 100%

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF vs MF-H Flash Escolpio AD145 MF

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF 14/20 (12 OS)
MF-H Flash Escolpio AD145 MF 6/20 (8 OS)
Killerken Killerken Win Rate 70%

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF vs MF-H Flash Escolpio CH120 MF

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF 16/20 (14 OS)
MF-H Flash Escolpio CH120 MF 4/20 (6 OS)
Killerken Killerken Win Rate 80%

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF vs MF-H Flash Escolpio H145 MF

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF 16/20 (16 OS)
MF-H Flash Escolpio H145 MF 4/20 (4 OS)
Killerken Killerken Win Rate 80%

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF vs MF-H Flash Escolpio TH170 R2F

MSF-H Killerken Killken E230 RDF 20/20 (20 OS)
MF-H Flash Escolpio TH170 R2F 0/20
Killerken Killerken Win Rate 100%

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF vs MF-H Flash Escolpio TH170 MF

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF 14/20 (14 OS)
MF-H Flash Escolpio TH170 MF 6/20 (6 OS)
Killerken Killerken Win Rate 70%

Stamina Tests: (My EWD is in mint condition.)

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF vs MF-L Phantom Cancer AD145 EWD

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF 6/20 (6 KO)
MF-L Phantom Cancer AD145 EWD 14/20 (14 OS)
Killerken Killerken Win Rate 30%

I have no idea how to Killerken was able to KO. RDF is slightly aggressive towards the beginning and I guess Killerken may just have a little bit of Attack Potential. Also, Phantom in Stamina Mode does have a bit of recoil.

Spin Equalizer Tests: (Meteo L Drago II was always shot first.)

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF vs Meteo L Drago II (Hasbro) CH120 EWD

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF 4/20 (4 KO)
Meteo L Drago II (Hasbro) CH120 EWD 16/20 (16 OS)
Killerken Killerken Win Rate 20%

Balance Tests: (Duo 230 MB was shot first.)

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF vs MF-M Duo Cygnus 230 MB

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF 0/20
MF-M Duo Cygnus 230 MB 20/20 (20 OS)
Killerken Killerken Win Rate 0%

These 20 battles were the most depressing battles ever. Duo 230 MB will always outspin this combo, regardless...

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF vs MF-M Duo Cygnus E230 MB

MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF 0/20
MF-M Duo Cygnus E230 MB 20/20 (20 OS)
Killerken Killerken Win Rate 0%

This combo truly didn't even stand a chance...

Overall: MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF is really only good for stopping attack types. Up until now, no Zero G Beyblade comes even close to beating a Stamina or Duo 230/E230 MB combo... Even then, Killerken Killerken does better than Revizer Revizer in terms of defense.

Great combo, but it's still just a really standard cookie cutter defense combo. Nothing surprising here.

: All it is, is just a better defense combo than Revizer Revizer.

Up until now, all Zero G Beyblade's are only good for being a defense type except Phoenic (which still does mediocre to horrible in attack.)

Haha, I know. So far it's really hard to put something together that isn't so cookie cutter.

True, but still, the only purpose of this combo, is to be a defense type. Up until now, I find that this combo is by far the best Defense Combo. I am sorry if I sound biased. I just find this combo to be the best at what it does.

Is it MUCH better than Revizer x2? The set is kind of expensive and it will be about $100 for two of them. Can you test Revizer Killerken?

Is E230 really the best defense spin track right now? Wouldn't the Killerken wheels be better with the cookie-cutter BD145CS?

You need "benchmark" results.

Alright Kai-V. I will do benchmark tests and post them up tommorow.

Benchmark: MSF-H Revizer Revizer E230 RDF.

Can you do this: MSF-H Killerken Killerken E230 RDF VS MF-H Duo Aquario 230CS/A230

Yes, yes I can.

How many minutes can kilerken killerken get in solo spin time using AD145WD? I am curious because of the weight & the round shape, it should has better stamina than the other Zero G beyblades.

(Jul. 05, 2012  5:39 PM)wpardin Wrote: [ -> ]How many minutes can kilerken killerken get in solo spin time using AD145WD? I am curious because of the weight & the round shape, it should has better stamina than the other Zero G beyblades.

Wpardin, you have synchromed Killerken. Hopefully, you can confirm/remove the doubts by your method (solo spin).

Mu, can you make this a priority? It's a simple basic test.

Alright, I did the solo spin tests.

Killerken Killerken AD145 WD

Trial 1: 1:57
Trial 2: 2:03
Trial 3: 1:58
Trial 4: 1:59
Trial 5: 2:03

Average: 2:00

Strange... Different result from my own test.

My average solo spin time for killerken killerken is 2:52 minutes.

I will do some test to confirm my curiosity since i never tried to pair Killerken with RDF.

Btw, i have a picture of my twin killerken & I am sure Uwik has seen it.

Edit: I have synchrom Ifraid, Saramanda, Orojya & Killerken. Overall, Killerken is the most stable of them all & has better stamina. It is even better than Diablo. I dubbed it Diablo Killer since it trashed Diablo in mirror match.

(Jul. 06, 2012  2:43 AM)wpardin Wrote: [ -> ]Strange... Different result from my own test.

My average solo spin time for killerken killerken is 2:52 minutes.

I will do some test to confirm my curiosity since i never tried to pair Killerken with RDF.

Btw, i have a picture of my twin killerken & I am sure Uwik has seen it.

Edit: I have synchrom Ifraid, Saramanda, Orojya & Killerken. Overall, Killerken is the most stable of them all & has better stamina. It is even better than Diablo. I dubbed it Diablo Killer since it trashed Diablo in mirror match.

That said, a lot of synchrom trashes Diablo in identical set-ups. At least in my experience. :p

Maybe its the difference in weight... each Zero G chrome wheel does have differnt weights, even two of the same kind/mold.

Anyway my Killerken Killerken has a horrible/bad solo spin time... and its stamina is just about the same as Revizer's (maybe just a tad bit better.)

(Jul. 06, 2012  2:52 AM)Mu Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe its the difference in weight... every Zero G wheel have differnt weights, event two of the same kind.

: Maybe there might even be a different mold for Killerken, but thats just my guess...

Where'd you get this information?

Seriously? Wildly different in weight? Different molds? Really?

Even if there is a different in the mold, the solo spin time won't differ by that much.

What is your killerken's weight?

(Jul. 06, 2012  2:54 AM)zionson Wrote: [ -> ]

(Jul. 06, 2012  2:52 AM)Mu Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe its the difference in weight... every Zero G wheel have differnt weights, event two of the same kind.

: Maybe there might even be a different mold for Killerken, but thats just my guess...

Where'd you get this information?

Seriously? Wildly different in weight? Different molds? Really?

I said maybe... IDK for sure. (I'll just delete that part of my post and I apologize, sincerely.)

Anyways, my 1st Killerken weighs 30.08 grams and my 2nd Killerken weighs 30.82 grams on my new kitchen weight scale... so, 60.9 grams in total...

Those are just a bit heavier than mine. So I don't think it will change the solo spin time that much.

Well, even if it doesn't, one true statement can/will now be safely said/stated: Killerken will absolutely never find any use/usage in top tier Stamina Customs.

It is not about whether killerken can be used in a stamina combo. It is about proving there is nothing wrong in the test results you posted.

For myself, I am just curious whether you really have killerken or not. If you don't have one, you can not post those test results cause it might mislead others into wrong combos.

60.0 grams really heavy!!!

I do own two Killerken's. I am somewhat hurt by this... I'll also retest all the solo spin times with a new AD145 and new WD since I have extra's... Just wait for about 20 minutes wpardin and I'll post up the new results.

Edit: BTW, I would never mislead a prestigous and also knowlegeable Beyblade Organization such as this one... I am trying my best to be accepted so that eventually I may become an "Advanced Member". In fact, if I didn't own two Killerkn's, I would never have started this thread nor my other thread.