Hey i know some people have counters to the lightning tank and i do to.
MF- lightning ldrago(upper mode)bd145 lrf vs
MF-H Basalt bull 230 rsf. Yes i know Rsf doesn't have good stamina but he takes away the shock and power from rubber bottoms(not to sure about CS Though).MF-H Basalt bull 230 rsf launched first with takaar tomy l/r beylauncher in bb-10 attack stadium.LT Launched with beylauncher L both beys launched aggresivly.
BB win percentage 80 % os,os,ko,ko,ko,ko,os,ko
LT win Percentage 20 % KO,KO
as you can see BB takes away the shock and power from LT so that is one of my counters now for my other counter
Gravity persues(attack left spin)bd145 hfs(s mode) this combo was the one Bladestorm Won a Tournement with and i have a counter!!!
Gravity persues bd145 hfs vs
Meteo ldrago(assault mode) bd145 lf.the reason i used LF IS Because it has great attack and defense and i know that it is not currently top tier + when it runs out of stamina it will spin still because of meteo ldrago both beys launched aggresivly with takara tomy bey launcher L,Meteo ldrago launched first
GP win percentage 40 % ko,os,os,ko
MT win percentage 60% ko,ko,ko,ko,os,ko
so it does quit well against GP.
And My final counter,MF-H Hell kerbecs bd145 wd.Both beys launched on Takara Tomy bey launcher l/r in bb-10 stadium Hell kerbecs launched first.
MF-H Hell Kerbecs bd145 wd(bd145 normal mode) win percentage 10 % OMG!!!!
mf -meteo ldrago 85 lrf(meteo assault mode) win percentag 90% ko,ko,ko,ko,ko,os(spin stole on all os)ko,ko,os.
so this combo is amazing
Pretty cool. But, MF-H Basalt Bull 230RSF is already an amazing Defense combo, and MF Lightning L Drago BD145LRF was designed to kill 230. So I don't know how you got such good results.
I never heard of Gravity Perseus BD145HF/S being a good combo, especially in S mode. But pretty good combo anyway.
And, the third combo is not exactly a counter, as we all know that Attack defeats Stamina.
I agree With RSF being a very good defnese bottom tried it myself dsnt work to weel on 230 though got knocked out by destroy ldrago a lot however does amazingly on R145
yeh i know but if you read the OP i state that it doesn,y hvae great stamina and hell kerbecs bd145 wd has great defense aswell and check Blitz's videos and you will see the combo or just ask Bladestorm and for eletric peopel told me that 230 and rsf dont go well but it does if you want to kill the attack for a rubber bottom im not to sure about CS seeing how it has attack,defense and stamina and also screw sauce i know basalt bull r145 rsf is amazing it just lacks stamina
could you compare the 'counters' to some already known great beys like your BB with CS.
and the last with MLD vs Hell Kerbecs is kinda expected as its attack vs stamina use a CS on kerbecs
The MLD BD145 LF is kinda interesting as LF (IMO) is easier at stalling, and is really fast at the same time can spin equalize, but my only concern is wether the GP is in left spin as MLD would slow itself down.
good results so far, i will look every now and then on this topic
(May. 22, 2011 12:23 PM)Electric Wrote: [ -> ]I never heard of Gravity Perseus BD145HF/S being a good combo
I use the MF-F Gravity Perseus Stamina BD145HF/S version of the combo.
It's an OK option for anti-meta in the UK. The tornament record for it is 5-3; 5-1 for me and 0-2 for ControL_. I recently won Summer's eve showdown using it but it definitely is not the best play for everyone.
BladeStorm it also includes you favorite tip lol, also why did you choose MF-F? just curious
also in the OP it says 'Gravity persues(attack left spin)bd145 hfs(s mode)' then states 'both beys launched aggresivly' Chosen if HF/S is in stamina mode it shouldn't be aggressive....
(May. 22, 2011 3:32 PM)Callum6939 Wrote: [ -> ]BladeStorm it also includes you favorite tip lol, also why did you choose MF-F? just curious
also in the OP it says 'Gravity persues(attack left spin)bd145 hfs(s mode)' then states 'both beys launched aggresivly' Chosen if HF/S is in stamina mode it shouldn't be aggressive....
Maybe he meant that both beys were launched at 100%?
1. Format your post better, it's REALLY hard to tell what's going on. If you're going to make a thread, make an effort to make it legible.
2. Testing now requires a minimum of 20 Rounds
3. I guarantee LT will do better than that in the right hands, wait for someone who can use it well to test it.
4. Do people really use Hell Kerbecs BD145WD to counter MF-H Basalt Bull 230CS? List I checked, it loses consistently. Also, it's not that hard to beat.
5. LF isn't top tier for a reason (it sucks). And you won't find that Perseus combo often. I fail to see how it stole spin from a bey that was also in left spin.
While we're here BladeStorm, what were you generally using that combo against?
(May. 22, 2011 3:32 PM)Callum6939 Wrote: [ -> ]BladeStorm it also includes you favorite tip lol, also why did you choose MF-F? just curious
also in the OP it says 'Gravity persues(attack left spin)bd145 hfs(s mode)' then states 'both beys launched aggresivly' Chosen if HF/S is in stamina mode it shouldn't be aggressive....
MF-F mainly for aesthetics; secondary reason was the name gimmick:
Metal Face-Feather Gravity Perseus Stamina Counter Mode Boost Disk145 Hole Flat/Sharp
(May. 22, 2011 3:44 PM)th!nk Wrote: [ -> ]While we're here BladeStorm, what were you generally using that combo against?
Literally anything and everything; its commonly known amongst those who know me that its my favourite combo which I use during free battles + at club + whenever.
sorry for the mix up people i may have gotten some things wrong with Gp and hell kerbecs bd145 wd sometimes counters bb 230 cs coz its track is 145 well bd145
(May. 22, 2011 4:47 PM)TheChosen1 Wrote: [ -> ]sorry for the mix up people i may have gotten some things wrong with Gp and hell kerbecs bd145 wd sometimes counters bb 230 cs coz its track is 145 well bd145
it doesnt counter, Lightning Tank is probably the best solution to counter (IMO), also it either does or doesnt, also after some testing a month back before a tournament, the WD variant vs MF-H Basalt Bull 230 CS got less than 30% which isnt enough, a counter should have about 65% minimum, 70% is safe.
sorry if it sounds bad I dont know how to word the sentence correctly without feeling bad
You said Hell BD145WD counters 230CS, it definitely doesn't, it loses consistently to it.
The GP HF/S is extremely versatile and beats many, but also loses to many - It was an extremely well played gamble.
230RSF hasn't done so well against Lightning Tank, 50% is hard for it.
I must say you should rethink a lot of your information on the OP. Basalt 230CS obliterates Hell BD145WD.
Lightning Tank can force 50% against 230RSF.
Many combos beat Metal Face-Feather Gravity Perseus Stamina Boot Disk HoleFlatSharp.
ok i will but i was supprised aswell if you read the op rsf has great defense but lacks stamina
(May. 22, 2011 6:12 PM)TheChosen1 Wrote: [ -> ]ok i will but i was supprised aswell if you read the op rsf has great defense but lacks stamina
I wasn't surprised at all. What are you talking about?
It doesn't need "stamina" at all, it's a left spin bey spin sharing, therefore the RSF lacking "stamina" isn't a valid argument. You are looking for that lacking of stability and balance paired with the height of 230.
yeh alright but it does quite well i said 230 rsf lacks stamina because some times it goes of balance therfore it loses which mean it lacks stamina
(May. 22, 2011 6:24 PM)TheChosen1 Wrote: [ -> ]yeh alright but it does quite well i said 230 rsf lacks stamina because some times it goes of balance therfore it loses which mean it lacks stamina
I've already corrected you, you don't need to falsely correct me.
Stamina is vague, it covers infinite sections of a spinning top.
When it goes off balance, it means it has been destabalised, and in this case very easily by the LT, which means it's unstable.
It does not lack stamina in this case because the constant spin sharing means that in context, both beys are more or less equal in angular velocity through out.
ok and im only 11 i i did not understand some the stuff you just said LOL alright what else should i test it against then o and from now on can people post good combos so i can try and counter them
Hey, BladeStorm, is it possible for you test that combo out against our Top-Tiers ?
ok im done some testing and here are the results Hell kerbecs launched first with bey launcher
MF-H Hell kerbecs bd145(normal mode)cs vs
MF-Meteo Ldrago(rush mode) bd145 LF
HK Win percentage 20% ko,ko
MLD Win percentage 80% ko,ko,ko,ko,ko,os,ko,os,os,ko,os,ko,ko,ko,ko,os,ko,os
as you can see MLD Pwned HK badly and people said LF Sucks
was your CS agressive???
i like that combo but i use basalt instead since i don't have gravity mold 1 
also how does gravity do in S mode cause bassalt does ok because of the weight so its hard to knock off balance
(May. 23, 2011 7:00 AM)Electric Wrote: [ -> ]Hey, BladeStorm, is it possible for you test that combo out against our Top-Tiers ?
I see no point because the combo cant get over 30% hahahahaha
Oh.. Against all of our Stamina Types ? You want that Beyblade to be a Stamina type... right ? So, it can't get over 30% against all of the top-tier Stamina types ?
I wonder how you won a tournament with that, maybe because everyone else uses Defense there nowadays ?
rusty it was not my cs he let me borrow i have to give it back on friday and yes the cs was aggresive
(May. 23, 2011 9:03 AM)Electric Wrote: [ -> ]Oh.. Against all of our Stamina Types ? You want that Beyblade to be a Stamina type... right ? So, it can't get over 30% against all of the top-tier Stamina types ?
I wonder how you won a tournament with that, maybe because everyone else uses Defense there nowadays ?
I can't make out what you mean.