Jan. 15, 2011 2:35 PM
I’m pretty sure the idea of "low height Defense combos" have been looked into before, but I don't think that extensive tests were ever posted.
Anyway, here are some tests I’ve done to show how 85 height Defense combos perform compared to their 145 height variation (GB145):
Equipment:
MFB Attack Type BeyStadium
Beylauncher/BeyLauncher L
All Beys launched at 100% power
MF-H Earth Aquario 85/GB145CS always launched first
It's also probably worth mentioning that, although most of you probably figured this out already, MF-H Earth Bull 85CS achieved a 100% win rate over MF-H Earth Bull GB145CS.
It would be great if some of you can post some tests of Low Height Defense Combos together with some tests of 145 height ones as a comparison.
(I'm especially eager to see how Vulcan will do against MF-H Earth Bull/Aquario 85/90 CS/RS/RSF, since I have a feeling that it wouldn't achieve as high a win rate as it does with 145 height Defense combos.)
Anyway, here are some tests I’ve done to show how 85 height Defense combos perform compared to their 145 height variation (GB145):
Equipment:
MFB Attack Type BeyStadium
Beylauncher/BeyLauncher L
All Beys launched at 100% power
MF-H Earth Aquario 85/GB145CS always launched first
MF Lightning L Drago (Upper Mode) _____RF (Click to View)
Against MF Lightning L Drago 90RF (Click to View)
CS:
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS vs MF Lightning L Drago 90RF
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS: 13 win (13 OS)
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 7 win (7 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS win percentage: 65%
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS vs MF Lightning L Drago 90RF
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS: 6 win (6 OS)
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 14 win (14 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS win percentage: 30%
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS lost most of the battles due to it losing balance, causing the rubber on CS to act like a wheel. This often causes the Bey to 'roll' out of the Stadium when it gets hit.
RSF:
MF-H Earth Aquario 85RSF vs MF Lightning L Drago 90RF
MF-H Earth Aquario 85RSF: 11 win (9 OS, 2 KO)
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 8 win (8 KO)
Draw: 1 (1 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario 85RSF win percentage: 55%
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF vs MF Lightning L Drago 90RF
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF: 8 win (8 OS)
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 12 win (12 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF win percentage: 40%
Test by Ray Joker:
MF-H Earth Bull 100RSF vs. MF Lightning L Drago 90R2F
MF-H Earth Bull 100RSF: 3 wins (3 OS)
MF Lightning L Drago 90R2F: 7 wins (7 KO)
Bull win rate: 30%
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS vs MF Lightning L Drago 90RF
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS: 13 win (13 OS)
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 7 win (7 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS win percentage: 65%
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS vs MF Lightning L Drago 90RF
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS: 6 win (6 OS)
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 14 win (14 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS win percentage: 30%
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS lost most of the battles due to it losing balance, causing the rubber on CS to act like a wheel. This often causes the Bey to 'roll' out of the Stadium when it gets hit.
RSF:
MF-H Earth Aquario 85RSF vs MF Lightning L Drago 90RF
MF-H Earth Aquario 85RSF: 11 win (9 OS, 2 KO)
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 8 win (8 KO)
Draw: 1 (1 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario 85RSF win percentage: 55%
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF vs MF Lightning L Drago 90RF
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF: 8 win (8 OS)
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 12 win (12 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF win percentage: 40%
Test by Ray Joker:
MF-H Earth Bull 100RSF vs. MF Lightning L Drago 90R2F
MF-H Earth Bull 100RSF: 3 wins (3 OS)
MF Lightning L Drago 90R2F: 7 wins (7 KO)
Bull win rate: 30%
Against MF Lightning L Drago 100RF (Click to View)
CS:
Tests by Fire Eternal:
MF-H Earth Bull 85CS vs. Lightning L-Drago 100RF
MF-H Earth Bull 85CS: 3 wins (3 OS)
Lightning L-Drago 100RF: 5 wins (5 OS)
2 Draws
Earth Bull win rate: 30%
MF-H Earth Bull 100CS vs. Lightning L-Drago 100RF
MF-H Earth Bull 100CS: 4 wins (1 KO, 3 OS)
Lightning L-Drago 100RF: 6 wins (6 KOs)
Earth Bull win rate: 40%
MF-H Earth Bull C145CS vs. Lightning L-Drago 100RF
MF-H Earth Bull C145CS: 2 wins (1 KO, 1 OS)
Lightning L-Drago 100RF: 8 wins (8 KOs)
Earth Bull win rate: 20%
Tests by Fire Eternal:
MF-H Earth Bull 85CS vs. Lightning L-Drago 100RF
MF-H Earth Bull 85CS: 3 wins (3 OS)
Lightning L-Drago 100RF: 5 wins (5 OS)
2 Draws
Earth Bull win rate: 30%
MF-H Earth Bull 100CS vs. Lightning L-Drago 100RF
MF-H Earth Bull 100CS: 4 wins (1 KO, 3 OS)
Lightning L-Drago 100RF: 6 wins (6 KOs)
Earth Bull win rate: 40%
MF-H Earth Bull C145CS vs. Lightning L-Drago 100RF
MF-H Earth Bull C145CS: 2 wins (1 KO, 1 OS)
Lightning L-Drago 100RF: 8 wins (8 KOs)
Earth Bull win rate: 20%
Against MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF (Click to View)
CS:
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS vs MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS: 11 win (10 OS)
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 9 win (9 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS win percentage: 55%
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS vs MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS: 8 win (8 OS)
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 12 win (12 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS win percentage: 40%
Test by Fire Eternal:
MF-H Earth Bull 100CS vs. Lightning L-Drago CH120RF
MF-H Earth Bull 100CS: 2 wins (2 KOs)
Lightning L-Drago CH120RF: 8 wins (8 KOs)
Earth Bull win rate: 20%
RSF:
MF-H Earth Aquario 85RSF vs MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF
MF-H Earth Aquario 85RSF: 14 win (12 OS, 2 KO)
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 5 win (5 KO)
Draw: 1 (1 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario 85RSF win percentage: 60%
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF vs MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF: 7 win (7 OS)
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 13 win (13 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF win percentage: 35%
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS vs MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS: 11 win (10 OS)
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 9 win (9 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS win percentage: 55%
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS vs MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS: 8 win (8 OS)
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 12 win (12 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS win percentage: 40%
Test by Fire Eternal:
MF-H Earth Bull 100CS vs. Lightning L-Drago CH120RF
MF-H Earth Bull 100CS: 2 wins (2 KOs)
Lightning L-Drago CH120RF: 8 wins (8 KOs)
Earth Bull win rate: 20%
RSF:
MF-H Earth Aquario 85RSF vs MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF
MF-H Earth Aquario 85RSF: 14 win (12 OS, 2 KO)
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 5 win (5 KO)
Draw: 1 (1 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario 85RSF win percentage: 60%
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF vs MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF: 7 win (7 OS)
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 13 win (13 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF win percentage: 35%
Against MF Lightning L Drago AD145RF (Click to View)
AD145, which weighs the same as CH120, was used in place of CH120 since it tends to shake/wobble around at 145 Height Mode.
CS:
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS vs MF Lightning L Drago AD145RF
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS: 13 win (10 OS, 3 KO)
MF Lightning L Drago AD145RF: 7 win (7 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS win percentage: 65%
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS vs MF Lightning L Drago AD145RF
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS: 12 win (11 OS, 1 KO)
MF Lightning L Drago AD145RF: 8 win (8 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS win percentage: 60%
RSF:
MF-H Earth Aquario 85RSF vs MF Lightning L Drago AD145RF
MF-H Earth Aquario 85RSF: 13 win (10 OS, 3 KO)
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 7 win (7 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario 85RSF win percentage: 65%
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF vs MF Lightning L Drago AD145RF
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF: 13 win (13 OS)
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 7 win (7 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF win percentage: 65%
CS:
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS vs MF Lightning L Drago AD145RF
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS: 13 win (10 OS, 3 KO)
MF Lightning L Drago AD145RF: 7 win (7 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS win percentage: 65%
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS vs MF Lightning L Drago AD145RF
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS: 12 win (11 OS, 1 KO)
MF Lightning L Drago AD145RF: 8 win (8 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS win percentage: 60%
RSF:
MF-H Earth Aquario 85RSF vs MF Lightning L Drago AD145RF
MF-H Earth Aquario 85RSF: 13 win (10 OS, 3 KO)
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 7 win (7 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario 85RSF win percentage: 65%
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF vs MF Lightning L Drago AD145RF
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF: 13 win (13 OS)
MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 7 win (7 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF win percentage: 65%
MF Gravity Perseus (Right Spin, Counter Mode) _____RF (Click to View)
Against MF Gravity Perseus 90RF (Click to View)
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS vs MF Gravity Perseus 90RF
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS: 6 win (6 OS)
MF Gravity Perseus 90RF: 14 win (14 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS win percentage: 30%
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS vs MF Gravity Perseus 90RF
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS: 10 win (10 OS)
MF Gravity Perseus 90RF: 10 win (10 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS win percentage: 50%
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS: 6 win (6 OS)
MF Gravity Perseus 90RF: 14 win (14 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS win percentage: 30%
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS vs MF Gravity Perseus 90RF
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS: 10 win (10 OS)
MF Gravity Perseus 90RF: 10 win (10 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS win percentage: 50%
Against MF Gravity Perseus D125RF (Click to View)
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS vs MF Gravity Perseus D125RF
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS: 10 win (9 OS, 1 KO)
MF Gravity Perseus D125RF: 10 win (10 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS win percentage: 50%
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS vs MF Gravity Perseus D125RF
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS: 7 win (7 OS)
MF Gravity Perseus D125RF: 13 win (13 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS win percentage: 35%
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS: 10 win (9 OS, 1 KO)
MF Gravity Perseus D125RF: 10 win (10 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS win percentage: 50%
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS vs MF Gravity Perseus D125RF
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS: 7 win (7 OS)
MF Gravity Perseus D125RF: 13 win (13 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS win percentage: 35%
Against MF Gravity Perseus R145RF (Click to View)
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS vs MF Gravity Perseus R145RF
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS: 9 win (9 OS)
MF Gravity Perseus R145RF: 11 win (11 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS win percentage: 45%
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS vs MF Gravity Perseus R145RF
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS: 5 win (5 OS)
MF Gravity Perseus R145RF: 15 win (15 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS win percentage: 25%
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS: 9 win (9 OS)
MF Gravity Perseus R145RF: 11 win (11 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario 85CS win percentage: 45%
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS vs MF Gravity Perseus R145RF
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS: 5 win (5 OS)
MF Gravity Perseus R145RF: 15 win (15 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145CS win percentage: 25%
Vulcan____ 90/85 RF/R2F (Click to View)
WB:
Tests done by Dan:
MF-H Earth Bull 85WB vs. Vulcan Horuseus 90RF
MF-H Earth Bull 85WB win rate: 2/10
Vulcan Horuseus 90RF win rate: 8/10
Earth Bull 85 win percent: 20%
MF-H Earth Bull C145WB vs. Vulcan Horuseus 90RF
MF-H Earth Bull C145WB win rate: 1/10
Vulca Horuseus 90RF win rate: 9/10
C145 win rate: 10%
85 win rate: 20%
RSF:
Tests done by Ray Joker:
MF-H Earth Bull 100RSF vs. MF Vulcan Horuseus 85R2F
MF-H Earth Bull 100RSF: 4 wins (4 OS)
MF Vulcan Horuseus 85R2F: 6 wins (6 KO)
Bull Win Rate: 40%
MF-H Earth Bull GB145RSF vs. MF Vulcan Horuseus 85R2F
MF-H Earth Bull GB145RSF: 3 wins (2 OS, 1 KO)
MF Vulcan Horuseus 85R2F: 7 wins (7 KO)
Bull Win Rate: 30%
MF-H Earth Bull 85RSF vs. MF Vulcan Horuseus 85R2F
MF-H Earth Bull 85RSF: 5 wins (4 OS, 1 KO)
MF Vulcan Horuseus 85R2F: 5 wins (5 KO)
Bull win rate: 50%
Tests done by Dan:
MF-H Earth Bull 85WB vs. Vulcan Horuseus 90RF
MF-H Earth Bull 85WB win rate: 2/10
Vulcan Horuseus 90RF win rate: 8/10
Earth Bull 85 win percent: 20%
MF-H Earth Bull C145WB vs. Vulcan Horuseus 90RF
MF-H Earth Bull C145WB win rate: 1/10
Vulca Horuseus 90RF win rate: 9/10
C145 win rate: 10%
85 win rate: 20%
RSF:
Tests done by Ray Joker:
MF-H Earth Bull 100RSF vs. MF Vulcan Horuseus 85R2F
MF-H Earth Bull 100RSF: 4 wins (4 OS)
MF Vulcan Horuseus 85R2F: 6 wins (6 KO)
Bull Win Rate: 40%
MF-H Earth Bull GB145RSF vs. MF Vulcan Horuseus 85R2F
MF-H Earth Bull GB145RSF: 3 wins (2 OS, 1 KO)
MF Vulcan Horuseus 85R2F: 7 wins (7 KO)
Bull Win Rate: 30%
MF-H Earth Bull 85RSF vs. MF Vulcan Horuseus 85R2F
MF-H Earth Bull 85RSF: 5 wins (4 OS, 1 KO)
MF Vulcan Horuseus 85R2F: 5 wins (5 KO)
Bull win rate: 50%
Meteo L Drago CH120LRF (Click to View)
Tests done by Dan:
MF-H Earth Bull 85WB vs. Meteo LDrago CH120LRF
MF-H Earth Bull 85WB win rate: 3/10
Meteo LDrago CH120LRF win rate: 7/10
Earth Bull 85 win percent: 30%
MF-H Earth Bull C145WB vs. Meteo LDrago CH120LRF
MF-H Earth Bull C145WB win rate: 2/10
Meteo LDrago CH120LRF win rate: 8/10
C145 win rate: 20%
85 win rate: 30%
MF-H Earth Bull 85WB vs. Meteo LDrago CH120LRF
MF-H Earth Bull 85WB win rate: 3/10
Meteo LDrago CH120LRF win rate: 7/10
Earth Bull 85 win percent: 30%
MF-H Earth Bull C145WB vs. Meteo LDrago CH120LRF
MF-H Earth Bull C145WB win rate: 2/10
Meteo LDrago CH120LRF win rate: 8/10
C145 win rate: 20%
85 win rate: 30%
It's also probably worth mentioning that, although most of you probably figured this out already, MF-H Earth Bull 85CS achieved a 100% win rate over MF-H Earth Bull GB145CS.
It would be great if some of you can post some tests of Low Height Defense Combos together with some tests of 145 height ones as a comparison.
(I'm especially eager to see how Vulcan will do against MF-H Earth Bull/Aquario 85/90 CS/RS/RSF, since I have a feeling that it wouldn't achieve as high a win rate as it does with 145 height Defense combos.)