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(Apr. 13, 2011 2:29 AM)Dan Wrote: [ -> ]WF and XF are too erratic to provide proper circumstances for a destabilizer to thrive. (They move too much.)
WB4lyfe.
Don't forget MF L drago 100 WF.
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No, it really isn't. Even a pretty heavily (before becoming illegal) fs doesn't move like a destabilizer bottom needs to.
I have no idea why people started recommending fs for destabilizing.
(Apr. 13, 2011 4:26 AM)SSJfisherman Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 13, 2011 2:29 AM)Dan Wrote: [ -> ]WF and XF are too erratic to provide proper circumstances for a destabilizer to thrive. (They move too much.)
WB4lyfe.
Don't forget MF L drago 100 WF.
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No, it really isn't. Even a pretty heavily (before becoming illegal) fs doesn't move like a destabilizer bottom needs to.
I have no idea why people started recommending fs for destabilizing.
well if you bank FS it moves, also banking is good for destabilizers (IMO)
But not consistent enough for what a destabilizer should do.
Fs gets good win rates against earth/burn 145 stamina...so what good is that?
If it has more attack speed, it can take down multiple heights.
(Apr. 13, 2011 4:26 AM)SSJfisherman Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 13, 2011 2:29 AM)Dan Wrote: [ -> ]WF and XF are too erratic to provide proper circumstances for a destabilizer to thrive. (They move too much.)
WB4lyfe.
Don't forget MF L drago 100 WF.
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No, it really isn't. Even a pretty heavily (before becoming illegal) fs doesn't move like a destabilizer bottom needs to.
I have no idea why people started recommending fs for destabilizing.
Why on Earth does everyone forget about MF L Drago 100WF?
And which person stated that FS can be used for destabilization? SF is already there, why do we need FS for?
What about burn it has destabilizing capabilties.
Very nice results, I have one Question don't you think that using a attack stadium might have effected the battles that took place ( The three walls it has ) Becuase one was basicly an attack Type (Flame Cancer 100SF) So might effect results.
(Apr. 13, 2011 4:32 AM)Shadow_Black Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 13, 2011 4:26 AM)SSJfisherman Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 13, 2011 2:29 AM)Dan Wrote: [ -> ]WF and XF are too erratic to provide proper circumstances for a destabilizer to thrive. (They move too much.)
WB4lyfe.
Don't forget MF L drago 100 WF.
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No, it really isn't. Even a pretty heavily (before becoming illegal) fs doesn't move like a destabilizer bottom needs to.
I have no idea why people started recommending fs for destabilizing.
Why on Earth does everyone forget about MF L Drago 100WF?
And which person stated that FS can be used for destabilization? SF is already there, why do we need FS for?
FS, more stamina, but slower then SF
i think i did originally, but i might be wrong, but i do remember saying the one problem is that it doesn't move much making it more like a low hight stamina then a destablizer
edit: just checked and it wasn't me, but i did say that FS stays in stamina mode to much making more like stamina combo
(Apr. 13, 2011 4:34 AM)lord Wolfblade Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 13, 2011 4:32 AM)Shadow_Black Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 13, 2011 4:26 AM)SSJfisherman Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 13, 2011 2:29 AM)Dan Wrote: [ -> ]WF and XF are too erratic to provide proper circumstances for a destabilizer to thrive. (They move too much.)
WB4lyfe.
Don't forget MF L drago 100 WF.
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No, it really isn't. Even a pretty heavily (before becoming illegal) fs doesn't move like a destabilizer bottom needs to.
I have no idea why people started recommending fs for destabilizing.
Why on Earth does everyone forget about MF L Drago 100WF?
And which person stated that FS can be used for destabilization? SF is already there, why do we need FS for?
FS, more stamina, but slower then SF
i think i did originally, but i might be wrong, but i do remember saying the one problem is that it doesn't move much making it more like a low hight stamina then a destablizer
In my opinion, FS creates a balance type instead of a destabiliser. So SF should be better choice at destabilizing, right?
(Apr. 13, 2011 4:39 AM)Shadow_Black Wrote: [ -> ]In my opinion, FS creates a balance type instead of a destabiliser. So SF should be better choice at destabilizing, right?
well destabilizers are sometimes called "balance" types, so i disagree.
Well, I think it's how people have been defining it in their heads, that makes people confused a bit.
No defined meaning makes people guess.
The best definition I've seen is the one in the advanced forum.
It needs to have good attack.
Sf and Fs can't even KO consistently.
But it also needs to have good stamina
That's why plastic bottoms are used
(Apr. 13, 2011 4:43 AM)SSJfisherman Wrote: [ -> ]Well, I think it's how people have been defining it in their heads, that makes people confused a bit.
No defined meaning makes people guess.
The best definition I've seen is the one in the advanced forum.
It needs to have good attack.
Sf and Fs can't even KO consistently.
But it also needs to have good stamina
That's why plastic bottoms are used
by attack i think it meant attack
pattern or
movement
here is a quote from the advance forum
Quote:Destabilisers work well at low heights with flat Bottoms that provide both an attack pattern along with decent stamina
(notice, it says attack pattern, not plain old attack)
Sf doesn't even reach the tornado ridge though...
That ain't even attack movement.
And that's the bottom that everyone advises.
Ha! Who says flat bottoms can't be used in destabilizing combos? With the exception of HF, of course... All I know is that FS is extremely terrible in destabilizing.
(Apr. 13, 2011 4:59 AM)SSJfisherman Wrote: [ -> ]Sf doesn't even reach the tornado ridge though...
That ain't even attack movement.
And that's the bottom that everyone advises.
well by attack movement mcfrown most likely meant none stamina movement (sitting in the middle of the stadium with very, very little movement, unless you are bluezee with WD)
(Apr. 13, 2011 5:01 AM)Shadow_Black Wrote: [ -> ]Ha! Who says flat bottoms can't be used in destabilizing combos? With the exception of HF, of course... All I know is that FS is extremely terrible in destabilizing.
meh, i get better results with FS then with SF and WB, but of then again FS has to much of a low height stamina combo movement...
Quote:meh, i get better results with FS then with SF and WB, but of then again FS has to much of a low height stamina combo movement...
Has anyone tried WF/XF, in this case?
It has been said many times that WF and XF move too fast.
(Apr. 13, 2011 5:17 AM)GaleForce Wrote: [ -> ]It has been said many times that WF and XF move too fast.
If that's so ,why is MF L Drago 100WF/XF listed as a destabilizer? I'm not trying to flame or anything, but I think we should get back on topic now.
(Apr. 13, 2011 5:17 AM)GaleForce Wrote: [ -> ]It has been said many times that WF and XF move too fast.
no, MF ldrago 100WF is a destabilizer and it isn't to fast
WF is good for destabilizing, not sure about XF though
XF is about as fast as RF so it won't destabilise.
Someone please post the SOLO spin time for WF. I only have XF at the moment, so please wait as I'm leaving for school soon. The results should be out, most probably tomorrow.
Out of all the info learned what is the BEST destablizer combo that is up to date because I am kinda worried because I just bought a Midnight Bull just to get the SF to add to my Flame Gasher 100 FS.
Flame Cancer 100SF is one of the very best. But I use Meteo L Drago 100 JB...
Quote:just bumping this as yous seemed to skip it and i was hoping someine would help...
I'm so sorry about missing your post, hows your arm?
Quote:But I use Meteo L Drago 100 JB...
Shouldn't it be L Drago 100 JB? Cause L Drago is way better for destabilization rather than Meteo.
Quote:Out of all the info learned what is the BEST destablizer combo that is up to date because I am kinda worried because I just bought a Midnight Bull just to get the SF to add to my Flame Gasher 100 FS.
You need not worry as Flame Cancer 100SF is currently one of the best destabilizer combos in the metagame. Once again, someone test my current combo,MF Burn Bull 100 XF against some top tiers please, as I lack a TT Attack Stadium and some good parts for top tier combos.
(Apr. 13, 2011 4:55 PM)Shadow_Black Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:But I use Meteo L Drago 100 JB...
Shouldn't it be L Drago 100 JB? Cause L Drago is way better for destabilization rather than Meteo.
no not really, from the tests i have seen meteo is a amazing destablizer
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