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WoW!!! Great info! thanks for showing me the ratios of win/loss for leo and stagatario. If you have Pegasus or bull can you test then VS leo?

P.S Can I call it Leo or do I have to call it Leone?

I don't care either way, but I'll call it Leone.

The next test will be Bull VS Pegasis. The winner of that test will fight Leone.

OK sweet and have fun! I can't wait to see the results =D

(Aug. 30, 2008  3:32 PM)Nic Wrote: [ -> ]

(Aug. 30, 2008  7:04 AM)Anubis Wrote: [ -> ]

(Aug. 30, 2008  7:02 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: [ -> ]

(Aug. 30, 2008  7:01 AM)Anubis Wrote: [ -> ]

(Aug. 30, 2008  6:58 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: [ -> ]But does the size affect the maximum RPM? Isn't that dependent entirely on the shooter?

It will affect the max RPM when we shoot because we only have a limited time to build the force up. With a larger mass to spin, we cannot accelerate the mass to the same speed as a smaller mass in a short time. The smaller mass will spin faster because there is less resistance.

Thanks for clearing this up for me.

No problem <3~

I don't know if a very large mass can reach the same RPM as a very small mass with the same power source with as much time as it needed to spin up. For example, a test run with a large motor. This is a question of physics that needs to be investigated. The key to that question was the short time we had to actually accelerate the mass!

Don't forget to consider the resistance of the shooter as well, and the efficiency of the user's muscles. These are very variable variables.

Hmm you're saying if time isn't an issue, but both are using the same power source, can both reach the same maximum rpm? I would think a lighter one would reach a higher rpm, if assuming the air resistance is similar, if you deliver the same power to it, because of the smaller mass, it'll be easier to speed up and overcome resistance. But this is really unrealistic... except maybe in the MFB arcade game thing.

I'm feeling like there's something missing from this, but I'm half asleep now and don't feel like thinking too much into it.

Anubis you mena to say Moment of Intertia.

if you don't mind can you please count the teeth on the MFB winder for me? or anyone who has one? thank you, from there I will make a calculation.

Beyblade Battle Test #002
Saturday, August 30th, 2008
10:16 PM

B1- Bull Starter
VS
B2- Pegasis Starter Clear
Bull Shot First

MFB Attack Stadium
Standard Right Shooter
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01: B2WKO
02: B2WOS
03: B1WKO
04: B2WOS
05: B1WKO
06: B2WKO
07: TKO
08: B2WKO
09: B2WKO
10: TKO
11: B2WKO
12: B2WKO
13: B2WOS
14: B1WKO
15: B1WKO
16: B2WKO
17: TKO
18: B2WKO
19: B2WKO
20: B2WKO
21: B2WKO
22: TKO
23: B2WKO
24: B1WKO
25: B2WKO
26: B2WKO
27: TKO
28: TKO
29: B1WKO
30: B1WOS

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Result:
B1 Bull Starter-
Win Ratio: 7/30 23.33%
Knockout Win Ratio: 6/7 85.71%
Outspin Win Ratio: 1/7 14.29%
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B2 Pegasis Starter-
Win Ratio: 17/30 56.66%
Knockout Win Ratio: 14/17 82.35%
Outspin Win Ratio: 3/17 17.65%
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Tie Ratio: 6/30 20.00%
Tie Knockout Ratio: 6/6 100.00%
Tie Outspin Ratio: 0/6 00.00%
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B1 Bull Starter True Win Ratio: 7/24 29.17%
B2 Pegasis Starter True Win Ratio: 17/24 70.83%


Blue, the number of teeth on the MFB winder is 68. The Dragon Winder has 69 teeth.

Next battle is Pegasis VS Leone.

perfect.
I'll write up a hypothesis(lol overkill)

hey Anubis do you think launching Bull first has a bearing on the outcome?
perhaps it be worth swaping the launch order halfway to null any descrepancies?

(Aug. 31, 2008  4:30 AM)Blue Wrote: [ -> ]perfect.
I'll write up a hypothesis(lol overkill)

hey Anubis do you think launching Bull first has a bearing on the outcome?
perhaps it be worth swaping the launch order halfway to null any descrepancies?

I shot Bull first because it loses the least endurance in the three seconds or so that it takes me to shoot the other one. I think Bull is still inferior, but I'll do a few rounds to see if it can outspin Pegasis.

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Beyblade Battle Test #003
Date- Saturday, August 30th, 2008
Time- 11:24 PM

B1- Leone Starter (Shot First)
VS
B2- Pegasis Starter Clear


Stadium- MFB Attack Stadium
Shooter- Standard Right Shooter
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01: B1WOS
02: B1WOS
03: B1WKO
04: B2WKO
05: B1WOS
06: B2WOS
07: B2WOS
08: B1WOS
09: B1WKO
10: TKO
11: B1WOS
12: B1WKO
13: B1WOS
14: B1WOS
15: B2WOS
16: B1WKO
17: B2WKO
18: B2WOS
19: B2WKO
20: B1WOS
21: B1WOS
22: B2WKO
23: TOS
24: B1WKO
25: B2WKO
26: TKO
27: B2WKO
28: TOS
29: B1WOS
30: B1WKO

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Result:
B1- Leone Starter
Win Ratio: 16/30 53.33%
Knockout Win Ratio: 6/16 37.5%
Outspin Win Ratio: 10/16 62.5%
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B2- Pegasis Starter Clear
Win Ratio: 10/30 33.33%
Knockout Win Ratio: 5/10 50.00%
Outspin Win Ratio: 5/10 50.00%
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Tie Ratio: 4/30 13.33%
Tie Knockout Ratio: 2/4 50.00%
Tie Outspin Ratio: 2/4 50.00%
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B1 Leone Starter True Win Ratio: 16/26 61.54%
B2 Pegasis Starter Clear True Win Ratio: 10/26 38.46%

Notes: Pegasis has endurance almost equal to that of Leone. When they had to fight it out with endurance, the battles were always very close. As you can see, Leone sometimes lost the endurance battle. I think Pegasis145D will be stronger than Leone for defense and endurance due to my findings in this test.

EDIT: Fixed some mistakes.

Here are the pictures you requested yesterday Brad:

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Hope this is what you wanted!
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NEW VIDEO!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAbQ0iBOk_0

I am working on getting all of your requests done guys. I've already recorded your requests Blue. Expect a compilation video of all of them to be uploaded on Monday.

Great pictures Kei

Yeah it really does look like the MFB Blades will be the least superior in my opinion, seriously the Track and Tip's barely weigh anything and just using the Attack ring for its source of weight is pretty stupid in my opinion and ontop of the bad shooter its not really looking too good in my opinion, Im hoping they can add more layers to the blades throughout its run.

hi does anyone know why on the leo article page on the photos it says the bottom is semiflat but i thought it was called the defence bottom and bulls bottom is semiflat and it doesnt look like the same as leos

^ This was an error that has been corrected.

hi everyone i just realized at the moment with the four mfbs there are 48 different combinations not including the faces, i didnt count them because they have nothing to do with performance

(Aug. 31, 2008  10:11 AM)mightyboosh9 Wrote: [ -> ]hi everyone i just realized at the moment with the four mfbs there are 48 different combinations not including the faces, i didnt count them because they have nothing to do with performance

this ... can't be right

haha carp no i'm an idiot it is 48

(Aug. 31, 2008  12:15 PM)Bey Brad Wrote: [ -> ]haha carp no i'm an idiot it is 48

Hehe, like brad I also didn't believe you till I did it out on paper =P And ya it is 48 thanks for giving us a little math to do =D

Just remember that the number grows exponetialy so when a 5th one comes out they'll be 125 combo's

So the mfb beyblades are called the horoscope series, am i right?

If so than how do you think the capricorn will look like?

(Aug. 31, 2008  3:26 PM)Rögnvaldur Wrote: [ -> ]So the mfb beyblades are called the horoscope series, am i right?

If so than how do you think the capricorn will look like?

The first few Metal Fight beyblades are from a Horoscope Series. I do not think all following beyblades will be associated with constellations.

TAKARA-TOMY will not necessarily make a capricorn beyblade. However, I think the blade from the Bey Reshuffle Set Attack & Balance Type could resemble a capricorn.

Let's not start speculating now though.

I just realized somthing... Since many people wont know about MFB untill the anime comes out does that mean that we will be automaticly be like 6 months ahead of the pack?

Also that will mean that we will already have some of the best combo's ever devised thought out!!!

hi everyone this is how i found out there were 48 combinations

1. pegasis 105 flat
2. pegasis 145 flat
3. pegasis 125 flat
4. pegasis 105 defence
5. pegasis 145 defence
6. pegasis 125 defence
7. pegasis 105 sharp
8. pegasis 145 sharp
9. pegasis 125 sharp
10. pegasis 105 semi-flat
11. pegasis 145 semi-flat
12. pegasis 125 semi-flat
13. leo 105 flat
14. leo 145 flat
15. leo 125 flat
16. leo 105 defence
17. leo 145 defence
18. leo 125 defence
19. leo 105 sharp
20. leo 145 sharp
21. leo 125 sharp
22. leo 105 semi-flat
23. leo 145 semi-flat
24. leo 125 semi-flat
25. bull 105 flat
26. bull 145 flat
27. bull 125 flat
28. bull 105 defence
29. bull 145 defence
30. bull 125 defence
31. bull 105 sharp
32. bull 145 sharp
33. bull 125 sharp
34. bull 105 semi-flat
35. bull 145 semi-flat
36. bull 125 semi-flat
37. sagittario 105 flat
38. sagittario 145 flat
39. sagittario 125 flat
40. sagittario 105 defence
41. sagittario 145 defence
42. sagittario 125 defence
43. sagittario 105 sharp
44. sagittario 145 sharp
45. sagittario 125 sharp
46. sagittario 105 semi-flat
47. sagittario 145 semi-flat
48. sagittario 125 semi-flat

i wonder how many of these combinations have actually been used yet.

(Aug. 31, 2008  5:44 PM)James Wrote: [ -> ]I just realized somthing... Since many people wont know about MFB untill the anime comes out does that mean that we will be automaticly be like 6 months ahead of the pack?

Also that will mean that we will already have some of the best combo's ever devised thought out!!!

We'll be more like 2 years ahead. =/

(Aug. 31, 2008  6:05 AM)Sega Wrote: [ -> ]Great pictures Kei

Yeah it really does look like the MFB Blades will be the least superior in my opinion, seriously the Track and Tip's barely weigh anything and just using the Attack ring for its source of weight is pretty stupid in my opinion and ontop of the bad shooter its not really looking too good in my opinion, Im hoping they can add more layers to the blades throughout its run.

In my opinion, the only real downside to this design in the shooter. Take a good hard look at your blades. Absolutely NO previous series has been built tighter or more solidly than these. There is absolutely no rattle whatsoever, which means no momentum lost to internal friction. Yes, the tracks and bottoms are fairly unimpressive at the moment, but does anyone remember the original four HMS Running Cores? Aside from Grip Flat, does anyone use the others at all? I strongly suspect there will be a great deal of variation on the bottoms in the near future, and I can't really say either way for the tracks, but I could see the potential for certain gimmicks to be added at a later date. The only other complaint I have is the inability to change spin direction right now. However, practically speaking, this can make for more solid, fast paced tournament play. If both players already know the spin direction of their opponent, there's none of the intense "which direction is he going to go for" psych out period that, to an extent, bogged down HMS play. What MFB is, as it stands, is an updated, back-to-basics approach to high-performance, competitive spinning tops. I, for one, look forward to the progression of this reboot.

(Aug. 31, 2008  9:24 PM)Spinster Wrote: [ -> ]

(Aug. 31, 2008  6:05 AM)Sega Wrote: [ -> ]Great pictures Kei

Yeah it really does look like the MFB Blades will be the least superior in my opinion, seriously the Track and Tip's barely weigh anything and just using the Attack ring for its source of weight is pretty stupid in my opinion and ontop of the bad shooter its not really looking too good in my opinion, Im hoping they can add more layers to the blades throughout its run.

In my opinion, the only real downside to this design in the shooter. Take a good hard look at your blades. Absolutely NO previous series has been built tighter or more solidly than these. There is absolutely no rattle whatsoever, which means no momentum lost to internal friction. Yes, the tracks and bottoms are fairly unimpressive at the moment, but does anyone remember the original four HMS Running Cores? Aside from Grip Flat, does anyone use the others at all? I strongly suspect there will be a great deal of variation on the bottoms in the near future, and I can't really say either way for the tracks, but I could see the potential for certain gimmicks to be added at a later date. The only other complaint I have is the inability to change spin direction right now. However, practically speaking, this can make for more solid, fast paced tournament play. If both players already know the spin direction of their opponent, there's none of the intense "which direction is he going to go for" psych out period that, to an extent, bogged down HMS play. What MFB is, as it stands, is an updated, back-to-basics approach to high-performance, competitive spinning tops. I, for one, look forward to the progression of this reboot.

I'm actually considering Thanking this post. Well said, Spinster. Very well said.

EDIT: Don't know if this was already said, but japblader has a new video up.
From 3 days ago, but still.

can someone please make a vid where bull has a low track, because that could be a killer combo and i dont have mfb so i cant try it

thanks

(Sep. 01, 2008  1:58 AM)-WOLF- Wrote: [ -> ]can someone please make a vid where bull has a low track, because that could be a killer combo and i dont have mfb so i cant try it

thanks

When I finish with the stock MFB tests, this will be one of the first combos I will test.

awesome thanks anubis