(Nov. 28, 2010 5:50 PM)Perseus1757 Wrote: [ -> ]i don't own a stadium yet but i don't want one that destroys beys.
That'd be the only Justified reason to get a Pegasus Thunder Whip.
But if you see The Lightning Force or Max Stampede Stadium, get those instead.
(Nov. 28, 2010 6:10 PM)Blaze Wheeler Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 28, 2010 5:50 PM)Perseus1757 Wrote: [ -> ]i don't own a stadium yet but i don't want one that destroys beys.
That'd be the only Justified reason to get a Pegasus Thunder Whip.
But if you see The Lightning Force or Max Stampede Stadium, get those instead.
sorry to go off topic here but whats a stampede stadium? the only stadiums they have in toronto are mobile,PTW,LF and vortex.
(Nov. 28, 2010 6:17 PM)PegesusRF Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 28, 2010 6:10 PM)Blaze Wheeler Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 28, 2010 5:50 PM)Perseus1757 Wrote: [ -> ]i don't own a stadium yet but i don't want one that destroys beys.
That'd be the only Justified reason to get a Pegasus Thunder Whip.
But if you see The Lightning Force or Max Stampede Stadium, get those instead.
sorry to go off topic here but whats a stampede stadium? the only stadiums they have in toronto are mobile,PTW,LF and vortex.
It's the newest one, and it has been reported to be very similar to LF.
(Nov. 25, 2010 2:44 PM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 25, 2010 7:24 AM)mesorangerxx Wrote: [ -> ]did anyone try to make a video comparing TT stadiums and HABROS stadium and send it to them
Do not worry.
does that mean u are to actually send them a vid
It means that someone else is handling it. Dont worry about it.
Hasbro should stick to just making the beys because they SUCK at making stadiums if the paint they put on the stadiums stick 2 the tip...too bad i dont live near Hasbro factory. but i do support ur kind and chivarlous cause 2 keep away the desturction of other blader's beys. (sniffle),(sniffle)
well at least they make stadiums keeping us from playing on the ground...
The people who work at Hasbro designing this stuff are typically engineers, so it may be worthwhile putting our suggestions into their language.
I took some measurements earlier to compare the Tornado Balance stadium to Lightning Force:
All measures are approximate and the lack of more specialised equipment means they're not perfect. I only had a ruler and a tape measure, which made some of the depth measurements hard to eyeball, but they're not going to be far off if at all.
Tornado Balance:
Depth:
Overall Depth: 37mm (measured from the apex to the lip/rim)
Tornado Ridge height: 2mm
Tornado Ridge to apex: 19 mm
Diameter:
Overall: 322mm (measured across the bowl from rim to rim)
Inner diameter: 265mm (measured from Tornado Ridge to Tornado Ridge)
Survival Area diameter: 90mm
Lightning Force:
Depth:
Overall Depth: 35mm
Tornado Ridge height: ~2mm (hard to be accurate as it's not a very sharply defined feature like on TB)
Tornado Ridge to apex: 13 mm
Diameter:
Overall: 330mm (measured from pocket to pocket)
Inner diameter: ~250mm (measured from Tornado Ridge to Tornado Ridge, again ridge is indistinct so hard to be completely accurate)
Survival Area diameter: ~120mm (hard to be completely accurate as it curves into the slope very gently, measured across the underside of the stadium, as a flexible tape measure made the beginning and end of the SA more obvious)
I think Hasbro may use weaker vacuum forming equipment than Takara-Tomy as the features on their stadiums seem less well defined.
So, LF has a larger area overall, a smaller area inside the Tornado Ridge, and a larger Survival Area. It's shallower and produces a shallower slope.
What I would change:
Diameter: A narrower stadium would provide a steeper slope.
Depth: A deeper stadium would provide a steeper slope. (better for attack types)
Tornado ridge: It's good that the area inside the TR is small, but the TR itself is ineffective, it should either be better defined in shape, or increased in height by 1mm or so.
Survival Area: Hard to say, but I think shrinking it down to under 90mm would be an improvement and provide more ramp for attack beys roll down before they hit the flat area which should improve their performance.
I also think there should be an approximation of the walls from TT's stadiums, as these sometimes are "rode" by a bey which is then pushed out of the stadium. (which again benefits attack types) Currently anything impacting the walls of the stadium(s) is just deflected back inside. (which harms attack types disproportionately)
Anyone have the BB-41 measurements? Somewhere between TB and that should give us a nice balanced stadium.
While all of that is understandable You over looked the big issue with lightning force as you can see it's not that much different. The walls to pockets/gaps ratio is abysmal. That desperately needs changing as it virtually nullifies a stadium out.
I also made a similar point regarding the designs of beyblades back when CoroCoro had their contest extended to outside of Japan that time. Where in I had the design laid out orthographically.
EDIT: By Survival area you mean the flat area at the middle of the stadium? I think a shallower version of that helps attack types, but still leaves it mostly unbalanced for all involved There's also a matter of addressing the rather odd parts near the non-pocket corners. Basically I think it looks nice, but functions rather poorly in comparison to the Japanese variety.
Also Hasbro cant make exact replicas of the stadiums. They need permission from Takara to do that.
(Dec. 03, 2010 4:16 AM)Gilgamesh Wrote: [ -> ]Also Hasbro cant make exact replicas of the stadiums. They need permission from Takara to do that.
Well, they got permission to make almost every Beyblade that TT made.
(Dec. 03, 2010 4:38 AM)Ray Joker Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 03, 2010 4:16 AM)Gilgamesh Wrote: [ -> ]Also Hasbro cant make exact replicas of the stadiums. They need permission from Takara to do that.
Well, they got permission to make almost every Beyblade that TT made.
Yeah at a price :V
I want no stadium lost! They shouldn't make copies of stadiums, cuz' that will SUCK at a price! Also if you get Cyber tell me!
those that didnt want to save our stadiums are total losers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with koyoya6543. They shouldnt make copies but they should simply make better stadiums than they are now. Hasbro makes many stadiums but they make them far looks. It is like they just have a graphic designer make it, while they should have engineers studying how to make them better. It would be swell if Hasbro came out with a well thought stadium.
(Dec. 07, 2010 1:56 AM)Gilgamesh Wrote: [ -> ]They shouldnt make copies
They make copies of the Beyblades ...
(Dec. 07, 2010 1:58 AM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 07, 2010 1:56 AM)Gilgamesh Wrote: [ -> ]They shouldnt make copies
They make copies of the Beyblades ...
Make copies of stadiums.
(Dec. 07, 2010 2:02 AM)Gilgamesh Wrote: [ -> ]Make copies of stadiums.
Yes, that is what I mean. If they are OK with copying Beyblades, why not try to copy the Beystadiums as well ?
(Dec. 07, 2010 2:18 AM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 07, 2010 2:02 AM)Gilgamesh Wrote: [ -> ]Make copies of stadiums.
Yes, that is what I mean. If they are OK with copying Beyblades, why not try to copy the Beystadiums as well ?
I would be happy if they did copy the stadiums. I just dont want Hasbro to always copy Takara. They need to mix it up a bit.
they could make a TT stadium and put paint on it or make it a color instead of see through <- offtopic
Hi I sended a message to hasbro with a video and this is what they told me:
Hi dragoongalaxy20,
Thank you for contacting us. We appreciate your taking the time to share your feedback with us regarding the Beyblades.
Consumer satisfaction is very important to us. Please be assured we have forwarded your comments to our management team so that they are also aware of your views.
We want to assure you that we are dedicated to maintaining quality products and service. We hope you and your family will continue to enjoy our products for many years to come.
Again, thank you for contacting us, and for your comments.
That is what they reply to everyone ... It is just an automatic response.
what the hell
Im so stupid
(Dec. 08, 2010 2:16 AM)dragoongalaxy20 Wrote: [ -> ]what the hell
Im so stupid
Add more content, also, some people don't take that word very well.
I'm in, Hasbro is making awful stadiums, it makes me want to buy older Hasbro stadiums.
EDIT: Also could I have an edited UK version of this?