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(Dec. 11, 2023  11:21 PM)45° Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 10, 2023  7:55 AM)Achilles25 Wrote: [ -> ]Satire right? OLM is one of the most consistent studios when it comes to bringing an output in animation. I don't know where you saw or who told you that OLM is bad but it is no where near being that. If you want to worry about an anime studio, I suggest you take a look at MAPPA.

Mappa slaps OLM any day of the year, wat are you talking about?
Aren’t you the guy with the burning hatred for Beyblade X?
(Dec. 11, 2023  11:21 PM)45° Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 10, 2023  7:55 AM)Achilles25 Wrote: [ -> ]Satire right? OLM is one of the most consistent studios when it comes to bringing an output in animation. I don't know where you saw or who told you that OLM is bad but it is no where near being that. If you want to worry about an anime studio, I suggest you take a look at MAPPA.

Mappa slaps OLM any day of the year, wat are you talking about?

Absolutely not. Especially in terms of consistency. If you know how they manage production and how they treat their staff you'll know how terrible it really is.
(Dec. 12, 2023  1:13 AM)Achilles25 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 11, 2023  11:21 PM)45° Wrote: [ -> ]Mappa slaps OLM any day of the year, wat are you talking about?

Absolutely not. Especially in terms of consistency. If you know how they manage production and how they treat their staff you'll know how terrible it really is.

Lmao have you watched zom 100? If not, then you'll come to know that the same has happened in OLM. Also, it's not fair for OLM to be compared with Mappa lol. I know they've worked on Pokemon but that's about it. Mappa is in the big boy club now with Ufotable and others while OLM is going down a sink hole.

(Dec. 11, 2023  11:43 PM)Orichalcum Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 11, 2023  11:21 PM)45° Wrote: [ -> ]Mappa slaps OLM any day of the year, wat are you talking about?
Aren’t you the guy with the burning hatred for Beyblade X?

Just stating the obvious 🤷
Not chapter This mounth…
(Dec. 14, 2023  10:10 AM)45° Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 12, 2023  1:13 AM)Achilles25 Wrote: [ -> ]Absolutely not. Especially in terms of consistency. If you know how they manage production and how they treat their staff you'll know how terrible it really is.

Lmao have you watched zom 100? If not, then you'll come to know that the same has happened in OLM. Also, it's not fair for OLM to be compared with Mappa lol. I know they've worked on Pokemon but that's about it. Mappa is in the big boy club now with Ufotable and others while OLM is going down a sink hole.

(Dec. 11, 2023  11:43 PM)Orichalcum Wrote: [ -> ]Aren’t you the guy with the burning hatred for Beyblade X?

Just stating the obvious 🤷

Zom 100 i've watched and it was made by Bugfilms a new studio. What you don't know is that originally Kojima who was a team leader at OLM wanted to separate not because of horrid conditions like Mappa, but to make a bigger name of himself by working on more projects. And when others in OLM heard they joined with him. OLM has worked on Pokemon, Beyblade Burst, Komi, Berserk, and Summer Time Rendering which are all consistent high quality shows, especially Burst. Saying Mappa is in the "big boy club" is funny since I don't see much of a future for them with how they are running things. It's crazy how on Twitter every first time animator that worked on JJK said that they will never return or wish anybody to work at Mappa ever again. And honestly, Ufotable isn't even that great of a studio. Demon Slayer is their golden child but even then S3 sucked horribly with production with Nozomu Abe carrying the season. OLM is only going to get better with bringing in new aspiring animators and directors that can honestly be huge names in the future.
OLM also has horrible conditions for it's animators, as seen in the video on the official beyblade channel. Also I don't know where all this praise is coming from when X has so many animation and continuity errors for only being 2 months old.
(Dec. 14, 2023  3:48 PM)RalfBalf Wrote: [ -> ]OLM also has horrible conditions for it's animators, as seen in the video on the official beyblade channel. Also I don't know where all this praise is coming from when X has so many animation and continuity errors for only being 2 months old.

Every studio essentially does. What differentiates Mappa with others is that they take away the ambition from animators and directors by not giving them enough time to finish their works and by the law of ghosting and dimming. Animators then get bashed on social media while it isn't even their fault and to top it all off, Mappa gets all the credit when they are the cause of the animators not meeting their ambition. X has a lot of potential and they are honestly doing a lot better than the manga by adding a ton of anime only scenes which not only elevate the story but characters too. OLM can bring fresh animators in and we can see those animators grow through X. The exact same thing happened in Burst.
(Dec. 14, 2023  4:13 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 14, 2023  3:48 PM)RalfBalf Wrote: [ -> ]OLM also has horrible conditions for it's animators, as seen in the video on the official beyblade channel. Also I don't know where all this praise is coming from when X has so many animation and continuity errors for only being 2 months old.

Every studio essentially does. What differentiates Mappa with others is that they take away the ambition from animators and directors by not giving them enough time to finish their works and by the law of ghosting and dimming. Animators then get bashed on social media while it isn't even their fault and to top it all off, Mappa gets all the credit when they are the cause of the animators not meeting their ambition. X has a lot of potential and they are honestly doing a lot better than the manga by adding a ton of anime only scenes which not only elevate the story but characters too. OLM can bring fresh animators in and we can see those animators grow through X. The exact same thing happened in Burst.
Just say ur an OLM fanboy cuz your making zero sense right now
(Dec. 14, 2023  4:23 PM)45° Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 14, 2023  4:13 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: [ -> ]Every studio essentially does. What differentiates Mappa with others is that they take away the ambition from animators and directors by not giving them enough time to finish their works and by the law of ghosting and dimming. Animators then get bashed on social media while it isn't even their fault and to top it all off, Mappa gets all the credit when they are the cause of the animators not meeting their ambition. X has a lot of potential and they are honestly doing a lot better than the manga by adding a ton of anime only scenes which not only elevate the story but characters too. OLM can bring fresh animators in and we can see those animators grow through X. The exact same thing happened in Burst.
Just say ur an OLM fanboy cuz your making zero sense right now

Just say you resort to ad-hominems cause your not knowledgable in the subject and can't put up an argument.
New character names y'all, spelled out in english straight from the manga

The teammates on team yggdrasil are named Yuni Namba (the girl with a unicorn bey) and Zonamos Nekoyama (dude with the hat and a sphinx bey)
Xtreme Scanlation's English translation of chapter 7 is out.
(Dec. 14, 2023  4:13 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 14, 2023  3:48 PM)RalfBalf Wrote: [ -> ]OLM also has horrible conditions for it's animators, as seen in the video on the official beyblade channel. Also I don't know where all this praise is coming from when X has so many animation and continuity errors for only being 2 months old.

Every studio essentially does. What differentiates Mappa with others is that they take away the ambition from animators and directors by not giving them enough time to finish their works and by the law of ghosting and dimming. Animators then get bashed on social media while it isn't even their fault and to top it all off, Mappa gets all the credit when they are the cause of the animators not meeting their ambition. X has a lot of potential and they are honestly doing a lot better than the manga by adding a ton of anime only scenes which not only elevate the story but characters too. OLM can bring fresh animators in and we can see those animators grow through X. The exact same thing happened in Burst.

Meanwhile OLM makes an ED with AI art. Your sorry defense being?
(Dec. 15, 2023  11:30 AM)RalfBalf Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 14, 2023  4:13 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: [ -> ]Every studio essentially does. What differentiates Mappa with others is that they take away the ambition from animators and directors by not giving them enough time to finish their works and by the law of ghosting and dimming. Animators then get bashed on social media while it isn't even their fault and to top it all off, Mappa gets all the credit when they are the cause of the animators not meeting their ambition. X has a lot of potential and they are honestly doing a lot better than the manga by adding a ton of anime only scenes which not only elevate the story but characters too. OLM can bring fresh animators in and we can see those animators grow through X. The exact same thing happened in Burst.

Meanwhile OLM makes an ED with AI art. Your sorry defense being?

The AI discussion is irrelevant to whatever discussion you guys are having, since the music video is from Warner Music and not affiliated with the anime team.
(Dec. 15, 2023  7:56 PM)KIO Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 15, 2023  11:30 AM)RalfBalf Wrote: [ -> ]Meanwhile OLM makes an ED with AI art. Your sorry defense being?

The AI discussion is irrelevant to whatever discussion you guys are having, since the music video is from Warner Music and not affiliated with the anime team.
My mistake.
(Dec. 15, 2023  10:07 PM)RalfBalf Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec. 15, 2023  7:56 PM)KIO Wrote: [ -> ]The AI discussion is irrelevant to whatever discussion you guys are having, since the music video is from Warner Music and not affiliated with the anime team.
My mistake.

At least your admitting faults. Respect. But like Kio said, Warner Bros handles a number of the promotional's. Not OLM.
Yeah, Takumi ain't beating them fraud allegations. His @ss is supposed to be Pro but he losing to everybody especially with his "10 years of training". Like, what he was being doing for 10 years lmao.
Takumi in the manga is supposedly a floor 1 Pro; which means he never beat Kadovar Test either.
What is Burn waffling about (Part 2) (Featuring My First Monthly Tier List)

I think this is the optimal time to do an anime-only tournament
Thoughts on X so far?
(Dec. 25, 2023  1:48 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]Thoughts on X so far?

Overall subpar so far.
At this point, I think it's fair to say the first arc of Beyblade X (the introduction and first climbing of the X Tower) is finished, right? If we were to evaluate it as a whole so far, I'd say it's a solid starting point, but doesn't provide as solid of a foundation compared to other series. Beyblade Burst's District Tournament was quite simple, but because of this, it could prioritize character interaction. Due to this, it ended up having solid character foundations to work on for the future of the entire Generation.

Comparing this to X, there's a lot of initially presented, but we haven't got the chance to dive into a lot of aspects, besides the X Tower lore and a few characters (really just Bird and Burn I guess). The problem with the X Tower is that it is the setting for right now, but we don't know if it'll be used in later seasons, so we can't say for sure whether or not it can be used as a long-lasting foundation. As for characters, as I said, the only ones we've explored in any depth are Bird and Burn so far. Burn has interesting concepts, but his main impacts in the story are more intriguing than impactful in any way. As for Bird, they have explored his character the most, but I just feel like it's not up to snuff compared to what we've seen before.

Every other character in X shows potential, but we haven't dived into them yet, so I won't comment on them. But even in the District Tournament, each character has multiple sides shown, highlighting Valt and Shu specifically. And I feel that Valt and Shu's focused rival dynamic ended up making both of their characters have mind-bogglingly strong starts (with Valt losing in his climactic battle, and Shu fighting through an arm injury to show his determination).

Kinda just more rambling on my part, but yeah. I'm planning to rewatch MFB very soon (inspired by it trending on social media), so expect me to ramble on about that as well. Also, I just want to say that my intention isn't to just compare X to the previous season, I want to see it for what new it brings to the table. But I do feel like it still consists of the wider picture of the whole franchise, so I do reference other seasons when talking about it.
Don't know why, but I have a feeling the writers...

(Jan. 02, 2024  5:04 PM)VillainorHero78 Wrote: [ -> ]Don't know why, but I have a feeling the writers...

I mean they do kinda have a good setup for something like that but I kinda hope they don’t go the possession route
(Jan. 02, 2024  5:04 PM)VillainorHero78 Wrote: [ -> ]Don't know why, but I have a feeling the writers...

I doubt it. Bird is literally the Protagonist for X and I don’t think they’ll do possession in X or something.

I think with the more experience Bird gains as a Blader going up against opponents who are consistently stronger than him, he will be able to use this experience and formulate a strategy
I realized that most mangas get 2 years for their season 1 (covering the "prototype" system and then the first real system, ala Single to Dual Layer) but it seems like X won't get that luxury. This seems to be the case because the anime already started alongside the manga, and I doubt it'll have a 2-year long season. This makes me think of 2 things:

1. I guess the seasons will start in the fall now? I got used to them starting in April, so I would hope X ends this October, and then Season 2 starts next fall. This would put a pretty sizeable break in between these 2 seasons, but it would only happen once, and the anime needs one regardless. Idk about this though, since the Manga would take a hiatus as well, since it would have to wait until next Spring for the next System.

2. It seems like X won't be allowed to cook as long as the previous season 1s. Having 2 years for MFB and Burst let them be more fleshed in as first seasons. When I see that we're halfway through Season 1, it makes me question the series a bit more. I think the 3 main things the series has me expecting after the Burn plotline resolves are: Multi's family, Bird having some major development, and Ekusu's rivalry with Chrome getting some payoff. I'm curious to see how all of these things will be handled.
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