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RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - Admiral W - Dec. 22, 2020
(Dec. 22, 2020 12:17 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:(Dec. 22, 2020 12:15 AM)Admiral W Wrote: That would have been the better way to go. The loss wasn't really Valt's fault honestly. It was basically Valt vs Lui and Dante.
Seems kind of like his fault for not accounting that that may happen. They were bound to lose because the thing about tag teams is that power isn’t everything and you’ve got to have strategy to which is something Lui and Drum had giving them a +1 over Valt and Rantaro.
They did have a strategy. Unfortunately Rantaro wasn't strong enough to fulfill his part of it.
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - Eclipse Force - Dec. 22, 2020
Thats not bad writing to make it unfair for Valt, it was just smart thinking from Dante that helped Lui, you know, his teammate which he's supposed to be working with. Valt and Rantaro went their separate ways and suffered. They need to be working together if they wanna stand any chance.
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - 6Jupiter5 - Dec. 22, 2020
(Dec. 22, 2020 12:24 AM)Admiral W Wrote:(Dec. 22, 2020 12:17 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: Seems kind of like his fault for not accounting that that may happen. They were bound to lose because the thing about tag teams is that power isn’t everything and you’ve got to have strategy to which is something Lui and Drum had giving them a +1 over Valt and Rantaro.
They did have a strategy. Unfortunately Rantaro wasn't strong enough to fulfill his part of it.
Well maybe he should’ve factored that in. Also you can’t place all the blame on Rantaro, it was also Valt’s fault for his lose.
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - Eclipse Force - Dec. 22, 2020
(Dec. 22, 2020 12:24 AM)Admiral W Wrote:(Dec. 22, 2020 12:17 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: Seems kind of like his fault for not accounting that that may happen. They were bound to lose because the thing about tag teams is that power isn’t everything and you’ve got to have strategy to which is something Lui and Drum had giving them a +1 over Valt and Rantaro.
They did have a strategy. Unfortunately Rantaro wasn't strong enough to fulfill his part of it.
They should've accounted for Roktavor's strength. Dante and Lui are pretty much equals so it isn't as hard for them, but you can't just assign Roktavor to take on someone, you have to realize Roktavor is weak, and he can't face anybody 1 on 1 and win, even for a brief moment.
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - EarthHelios - Dec. 22, 2020
A burst finish? Uh huh the only bey that would have burst is Ragnaruk. But luckily that didn't happen
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - 6Jupiter5 - Dec. 22, 2020
(Dec. 22, 2020 12:24 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Thats not bad writing to make it unfair for Valt, it was just smart thinking from Dante that helped Lui, you know, his teammate which he's supposed to be working with. Valt and Rantaro went their separate ways and suffered. They need to be working together if they wanna stand any chance.
Not to mention Longinus and Dragon are literally unintentionally made for each other.
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - Eclipse Force - Dec. 22, 2020
(Dec. 22, 2020 12:26 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:(Dec. 22, 2020 12:24 AM)Admiral W Wrote: They did have a strategy. Unfortunately Rantaro wasn't strong enough to fulfill his part of it.
Well maybe he should’ve factored that in. Also you can’t place all the blame on Rantaro, it was also Valt’s fault for his lose.
Valt could've angled Valtryek lower to shield from potential attacks or sped up Valtryek to hit before any interference, but he just didn't take into consideration that Dragon could do something. Thats a mistake on his part.
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - Admiral W - Dec. 22, 2020
(Dec. 22, 2020 12:28 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote:Honestly I don't see how he could have gotten around Roktavor's strength aside from doing a joint attack which they did in the beginning.(Dec. 22, 2020 12:26 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: Well maybe he should’ve factored that in. Also you can’t place all the blame on Rantaro, it was also Valt’s fault for his lose.
Valt could've angled Valtryek lower to shield from potential attacks or sped up Valtryek to hit before any interference, but he just didn't take into consideration that Dragon could do something. Thats a mistake on his part.
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - Legend27 - Dec. 22, 2020
(Dec. 22, 2020 12:34 AM)Admiral W Wrote:(Dec. 22, 2020 12:28 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Valt could've angled Valtryek lower to shield from potential attacks or sped up Valtryek to hit before any interference, but he just didn't take into consideration that Dragon could do something. Thats a mistake on his part.Honestly I don't see how he could have gotten around Roktavor's strength aside from doing a joint attack which they did in the beginning.
Neither do i
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - EarthHelios - Dec. 22, 2020
Rantaro knew he couldn't hold down Longinus for so long
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - Valtryek Aoi - Dec. 22, 2020
(Dec. 22, 2020 12:28 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote:(Dec. 22, 2020 12:26 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: Well maybe he should’ve factored that in. Also you can’t place all the blame on Rantaro, it was also Valt’s fault for his lose.
Valt could've angled Valtryek lower to shield from potential attacks or sped up Valtryek to hit before any interference, but he just didn't take into consideration that Dragon could do something. Thats a mistake on his part.
The anime isn't that detailed on things such as that. Dragon caught Valkyrie off guard setting up for Longinus. Nothing he could have done about that no matter how you swing it.
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - g2_ - Dec. 22, 2020
(Dec. 22, 2020 12:37 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:6 bladed mode, would've stole spin from Longinus.(Dec. 22, 2020 12:28 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Valt could've angled Valtryek lower to shield from potential attacks or sped up Valtryek to hit before any interference, but he just didn't take into consideration that Dragon could do something. Thats a mistake on his part.
The anime isn't that detailed on things such as that. Dragon caught Valkyrie off guard setting up for Longinus. Nothing he could have done about that no matter how you swing it.
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - Admiral W - Dec. 22, 2020
(Dec. 22, 2020 12:37 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:(Dec. 22, 2020 12:28 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Valt could've angled Valtryek lower to shield from potential attacks or sped up Valtryek to hit before any interference, but he just didn't take into consideration that Dragon could do something. Thats a mistake on his part.
The anime isn't that detailed on things such as that. Dragon caught Valkyrie off guard setting up for Longinus. Nothing he could have done about that no matter how you swing it.
Bingo.
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - EarthHelios - Dec. 22, 2020
Power isn't the only thing you need in battle but rather a devoted strategy as well
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - Eclipse Force - Dec. 22, 2020
(Dec. 22, 2020 12:34 AM)Admiral W Wrote:(Dec. 22, 2020 12:28 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Valt could've angled Valtryek lower to shield from potential attacks or sped up Valtryek to hit before any interference, but he just didn't take into consideration that Dragon could do something. Thats a mistake on his part.Honestly I don't see how he could have gotten around Roktavor's strength aside from doing a joint attack which they did in the beginning.
They could set him up where He's in the center and Valtryek is circling around. Valtryek takes Luinor and Dragon goes down, taking the bait. Then Valtryek bounds Luinor at Dragon, Glide Tornado keeps the 2 in place, and Valtryek and Roktavor go for a scissor attack.
This is just one example. Its not that hard to account for one person not being attack centered, you just have to use their abilities accordingly.
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - Valtryek Aoi - Dec. 22, 2020
(Dec. 22, 2020 12:38 AM)g2_ Wrote:(Dec. 22, 2020 12:37 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: The anime isn't that detailed on things such as that. Dragon caught Valkyrie off guard setting up for Longinus. Nothing he could have done about that no matter how you swing it.6 bladed mode, would've stole spin from Longinus.
Valkyrie doesn't have a proper driver for stealing spin, as its rubber is hard, so it's more of spin equalization. Still wouldn't have helped in this situation either, as the friction created from the rubber would just make it even more of a target in that situation.
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - g2_ - Dec. 22, 2020
(Dec. 22, 2020 12:41 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:So did Meteo L-Drago, but it's still worked well. Valkyrie's chassis rubber is very soft.(Dec. 22, 2020 12:38 AM)g2_ Wrote: 6 bladed mode, would've stole spin from Longinus.
Valkyrie doesn't have a proper driver for stealing spin, as its rubber is hard, so it's more of spin equalization. Still wouldn't have helped in this situation either, as the friction created from the rubber would just make it even more of a target in that situation.
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - BeybladeX100 - Dec. 22, 2020
(Dec. 22, 2020 12:41 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote:(Dec. 22, 2020 12:34 AM)Admiral W Wrote: Honestly I don't see how he could have gotten around Roktavor's strength aside from doing a joint attack which they did in the beginning.
They could set him up where He's in the center and Valtryek is circling around. Valtryek takes Luinor and Dragon goes down, taking the bait. Then Valtryek bounds Luinor at Dragon, Glide Tornado keeps the 2 in place, and Valtryek and Roktavor go for a scissor attack.
This is just one example. Its not that hard to account for one person not being attack centered, you just have to use their abilities accordingly.
I don’t think the anime will even try to do this I love the strategy but I don’t see the anime doing it because it doesn’t put that much thought into it
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - Valtryek Aoi - Dec. 22, 2020
(Dec. 22, 2020 12:43 AM)g2_ Wrote:(Dec. 22, 2020 12:41 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: Valkyrie doesn't have a proper driver for stealing spin, as its rubber is hard, so it's more of spin equalization. Still wouldn't have helped in this situation either, as the friction created from the rubber would just make it even more of a target in that situation.So did Meteo L-Drago, but it's still worked well. Valkyrie's chassis rubber is very soft.
The anime uses that power for attacking, not for spin stealing, so that argument is invalid.
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - Eclipse Force - Dec. 22, 2020
(Dec. 22, 2020 12:37 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:(Dec. 22, 2020 12:28 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Valt could've angled Valtryek lower to shield from potential attacks or sped up Valtryek to hit before any interference, but he just didn't take into consideration that Dragon could do something. Thats a mistake on his part.
The anime isn't that detailed on things such as that. Dragon caught Valkyrie off guard setting up for Longinus. Nothing he could have done about that no matter how you swing it.
The anime DOES take things like that into account. Dragon caught Valtryek off guard, yes. Valt could have taken into consideration "Hey, Dragon's over ther. He's doing nothing, kind of suspicious. He might come over here for a sneak attack. I should do his then." It's not like Planning for a possible attack isn't a thing that can happen. When Roktavor was being attacked Hikaru took that into consideration already and smashed into Roktavor, bounding them both away and making Dragon and Valtryek smash into eachother. Valt is 3 years older than Hikaru at the very least, he should know better.
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - EarthHelios - Dec. 22, 2020
Valt wouldn't have bursted Longinus
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - Valtryek Aoi - Dec. 22, 2020
(Dec. 22, 2020 12:43 AM)BeybladeX100 Wrote:(Dec. 22, 2020 12:41 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: They could set him up where He's in the center and Valtryek is circling around. Valtryek takes Luinor and Dragon goes down, taking the bait. Then Valtryek bounds Luinor at Dragon, Glide Tornado keeps the 2 in place, and Valtryek and Roktavor go for a scissor attack.
This is just one example. Its not that hard to account for one person not being attack centered, you just have to use their abilities accordingly.
I don’t think the anime will even try to do this I love the strategy but I don’t see the anime doing it because it doesn’t put that much thought into it
Exactly, not that much thought is put into the battles anymore tbh.
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - Eclipse Force - Dec. 22, 2020
You guys have to realize that Valt isn't an immortal being that can do no wrong. He messed up. Big deal.
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - EarthHelios - Dec. 22, 2020
Can't people just let things go
RE: Beyblade Burst Sparking Episode #39 (December 18, 2020) - Eclipse Force - Dec. 22, 2020
Didn't consider that Dragon might do something and just went in. Even when Valt initially decided to go in for the attack Dragon was off to the side, waiting. Valt had so much time to take Dragon coming in into consideration and he did nothing.