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Japanese bladers approach to blading compared to everyone else - Towndrunk - May. 29, 2020
Wasn't sure exactly how to title this thread because I'd like a lot of views and opinions on the subject.
My family has now gotten into beyblades pretty hard and within under a month since our first purchase of a hasbro bey, we now have over 40 beys total(14 hasbro and 26 TT).
I've done a lot of research and bought items to get parts needed to be competitive. These forums are amazing, as well as watching combo tournament videos and everything else YouTube has to offer. My research now has even taken me into watching many japanese and Malaysian tournaments.(they are hard to find but you have to use japanese keyboard and have at least a little knowledge of the language).
Kei from wbo also has amazing articles documenting his time in japan which are incredible reads.
So onto the point, it seems there is a philosophical difference between how the asian scene approaches battles and ourselves. There are the obvious 5g vs deck format to consider. But it seems like some combos these forums put on such a high pedestal, aren't even used over there.
A Malaysian G1 tournament from the end of 2019 had a finals match where the lord layer and xtend plus drivers weren't even used...
In their 5g format they are only allowed 1 multi spin bey and it seems master wins that debate most times. But then you see a lot of the big differences in the depth of the entire roster of beys used. Judgement combos with ds' are pretty common between both communities but beyond that it seems a lot of american decks opt for safe stamina beys like archer Hercules, lord spriggan, naked layer and even saw an air knight used. Meanwhile it looks like imperial, zwei, knockout and even union are used a lot in their 5g decks.
Do you think its simply a philosophical difference of playing the luck and odds factor of landing quick ring outs or bursts? Have any of you guys who frequent American tournaments ever seen heavy attack decks that go far or is it just out spin battles all day with everyone playing conservatively?
Really just curious about people's thoughts, is this just a cultural approach of playing it safe vs luck and action. There was even a small tournament in a game shop where one of the bladers strategically staggered his launch toward one side of the stadium so that he and his opponents beys would immediately hit. Every battle was literally an instant ring out for one or the other. Sometimes he lost because of his own knockback but he didn't even care. He just basically kept leaving the fate of each match to the initial hit........ and did very well overall.
RE: Japanese bladers vs everyone else - Biggster - May. 29, 2020
(May. 29, 2020 4:16 AM)Towndrunk Wrote: There was even a small tournament in a game shop where one of the bladers strategically staggered his launch toward one side of the stadium so that he and his opponents beys would immediately hit. Every battle was literally an instant ring out for one or the other. Sometimes he lost because of his own knockback but he didn't even care. He just basically kept leaving the fate of each match to the initial hit........ and did very well overall.
Do you have a link of this said video?
RE: Japanese bladers vs everyone else - Towndrunk - May. 29, 2020
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(May. 29, 2020 5:04 AM)Biggster Wrote:(May. 29, 2020 4:16 AM)Towndrunk Wrote: There was even a small tournament in a game shop where one of the bladers strategically staggered his launch toward one side of the stadium so that he and his opponents beys would immediately hit. Every battle was literally an instant ring out for one or the other. Sometimes he lost because of his own knockback but he didn't even care. He just basically kept leaving the fate of each match to the initial hit........ and did very well overall.
Do you have a link of this said video?
I could attempt to find it again. YouTube searches don't really prioritize people with few views or followers . How I find some of these videos are by finding popular japanese youtubers like skyline, coffee and spin top, then from there I'll scroll down and see who they are subscribed to and you'll often find videos from other smaller channels. I usually watch on the smart tv interface so I'd have to try and retrace my steps of what lead to it then find it on the phone to get a link.
RE: Japanese bladers vs everyone else - eigerblade - May. 29, 2020
You need to compare the rulesets between WBO and WBBA, since there is a big difference in how they run deck battles. In WBBA the lineup of your beys are determined before the match so its 1st bey vs 1st bey, 2nd bey vs 2nd bey, and so on. In WBO the rules are different and counterpicking is an option. This will result in slight differences regarding the combos people usually pick. In 5G matches KOes are also worth 2 points so attack combos get more spotlight.
In most countries, the official organizer of the tournaments are usually delegated to an affiliated toy import company (example: Ban Kee in Philippines, Emway in Indonesia). They usually have an additional rule that says you may only use parts from beys that are already released through their retail shops, usually in mall toy stores. So, if the retail toy stores don't have a particular product released, they are not allowed to be used in the tournament.
Even with the same rules, you will find that each and every region has slight differences in their metagame. For example: in my group, left spin Atomic combos are still being used very often and regarded as pretty top tier, despite other groups saying its a huge self-KO risk and its LAD is so-so.
RE: Japanese bladers vs everyone else - Kenzotuber KZ - May. 29, 2020
In a lot of games (like video games), the meta/how we play the game changes from Asia and the rest of the world, but why? Maybe it's because they have products that we don’t have (because every beyblade is released in Japan before NA and EU). It's also because of the different mentalities/cultures, because of the language barrier, they might have thought of things (like combos) or we have thought of things that the other side didn’t even consider.