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RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Pixi - May. 13, 2021

(May. 13, 2021  6:32 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  6:09 PM)Pixi Wrote: man you seriously need to respect other people's opinions.

I am. But outclasses is a overstatement. I'm not insulting your opinions. I'm stating my own and saying that outclasses is just way too much exaggeration.
no? if someone thinks that burst outclasses mfb in character development then that's on them. take a chill pill my guy


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - UnseenBurst - May. 13, 2021

(May. 13, 2021  6:29 PM)Ryuga's Son Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  6:27 PM)Pixi Wrote: look man i really dont want to argue but yes you do. literally in every mfb vs burst argument yall always bring up the same points about how mfb is this and that.

Proof? I can quote 10+ posts about "realistic". Can you? We don't use one thing like 1000 bajillion times. We use different things to clarify our opinions.

(May. 13, 2021  6:28 PM)Admiral W Wrote: So it's carp because you don't agree with it even though that exactly what happened in the show?

Ken did struggle with isolation, it was directly stated that because he moved around so much he was never able to make friends with others. He was isolated. He hadn't formed any connections. I think your misunderstanding what a character arc is. A character arc is when a character undergoes a change on personal level so that by the end they are different than who they were at the start. This is executed through their experiences through the events of the story whereby they learn certain lessons or certain experiences shape them. That's exactly what happened to each of those characters. By the end Ken is no longer the shy, closed off person he was in the beginning and had formed really realtionships with people and has come out of his shell. Wakiya has come to respect Valt and the others as bladers and freely acknowledges their strength. Something he never would have done in the beginning. Everything I've presented, you can verify.

Ken was one of the most trashiest characters, isolation isn't a good character development point. I have to disagree because I have different opinion about this.

Ken has major character growth he started off not wanting to make many friends and he was shy and didn't really care about anything other than his puppets and his bey but Valt showed him a new perspective he cared about his friends and came out of his shell starting to talk way more towards the end of the series he also learned that friends will always be with him no matter where you go. Ken is one of my favorite characters PinkRose is right you need to respect other people's opinions and if you feel like what you're going to say might offend people then don't post or say In my opinion.


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - PinkRose - May. 13, 2021

Uh, what? Character arcs are arcs focused on a certain character growing as a person and developing. How is that not character development? Overcoming his isolation from people is development on Ken's part. Not the usual thing you see, but he still grows and gets better and that's the defenition of development.


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Admiral W - May. 13, 2021

(May. 13, 2021  6:34 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  6:33 PM)Admiral W Wrote: That's your opinion of the character which your entitled to even if I disagree, but I'm talking about the execution of the character arc which was well done. You not liking the character doesn't negate the arc and how well it was handled.

Yes I gotta give you that again. But, overall the isolation thing wasn't well. Not character development. Again, character arcs don't always have character development.

The isolation was handled just fine. He started out isolated and by the end he's fully opened up. Again your not getting it. Character arcs are the cornerstone of character growth. Any experienced writer will tell you this. Character development is when the motivations, personality, and goal of a character are revealed, character growth is included in that. Character growth is done via character arcs, and that's the backbone of any good character.

And when it comes to character growth through character arcs, Burst has MFB beat.


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Instarez - May. 13, 2021

The fact of the matter is that Burst characters are shallow. I will go through every single character.


This mostly made me realize how much wasted potential there is, they have lots of characters that just appear to appear then leave.


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Ryuga's Son - May. 13, 2021

(May. 13, 2021  6:37 PM)Admiral W Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  6:34 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: Yes I gotta give you that again. But, overall the isolation thing wasn't well. Not character development. Again, character arcs don't always have character development.

The isolation was handled just fine. He started out isolated and by the end he's fully opened up. Again your not getting it. Character arcs are the cornerstone of character growth. Any experienced writer will tell you this. Character development is when the motivations, personality, and goal of a character are revealed, character growth is included in that. Character growth is done via character arcs, and that's the backbone of any good character.

And when it comes to character growth through character arcs, Burst has MFB beat.

I don't agree. yes they are, but not all. 90 percent is not 100 percent. That's your opinion. In my opinion, MFB is better at that regard.

Burst is better at villians, gimmicks, and some other stuff.


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Instarez - May. 13, 2021

I'll say it thousands of times. Burst characters tend to feel like cardboard cut outs, because they aren't unique. Explain away how amazing Daina is, it's all been done before. They just use old tropes, making it less than impressive.


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Ryuga's Son - May. 13, 2021

(May. 13, 2021  6:35 PM)Strikegamerv6 Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  6:29 PM)Ryuga's Son Wrote: Proof? I can quote 10+ posts about "realistic". Can you? We don't use one thing like 1000 bajillion times. We use different things to clarify our opinions.


Ken was one of the most trashiest characters, isolation isn't a good character development point. I have to disagree because I have different opinion about this.

Ken has major character growth he started off not wanting to make many friends and he was shy and didn't really care about anything other than his puppets and his bey but Valt showed him a new perspective he cared about his friends and came out of his shell starting to talk way more towards the end of the series he also learned that friends will always be with him no matter where you go. Ken is one of my favorite characters PinkRose is right you need to respect other people's opinions and if you feel like what you're going to say might offend people then don't post or say In my opinion.

I'm not trying to offend someone. Just because I have a different opinion and I'm trying to voice it doesn't mean I disrespect yours.

I don't agree. Ken has some good character development. But his own arc was decent, not legendary.

(May. 13, 2021  6:35 PM)Pixi Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  6:32 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: I am. But outclasses is a overstatement. I'm not insulting your opinions. I'm stating my own and saying that outclasses is just way too much exaggeration.
no? if someone thinks that burst outclasses mfb in character development then that's on them. take a chill pill my guy

I'm chill. If I wasn't I'd be raging and yellling at you.


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Pixi - May. 13, 2021

(May. 13, 2021  7:10 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  6:35 PM)Strikegamerv6 Wrote: Ken has major character growth he started off not wanting to make many friends and he was shy and didn't really care about anything other than his puppets and his bey but Valt showed him a new perspective he cared about his friends and came out of his shell starting to talk way more towards the end of the series he also learned that friends will always be with him no matter where you go. Ken is one of my favorite characters PinkRose is right you need to respect other people's opinions and if you feel like what you're going to say might offend people then don't post or say In my opinion.

I'm not trying to offend someone. Just because I have a different opinion and I'm trying to voice it doesn't mean I disrespect yours.

I don't agree. Ken has some good character development. But his own arc was decent, not legendary.

(May. 13, 2021  6:35 PM)Pixi Wrote: no? if someone thinks that burst outclasses mfb in character development then that's on them. take a chill pill my guy

I'm chill. If I wasn't I'd be raging and yellling at you.

yet you said that you were pissed because someone said that burst outclasses mfb in development


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Ryuga's Son - May. 13, 2021

(May. 13, 2021  7:14 PM)Pixi Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  7:10 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: I'm not trying to offend someone. Just because I have a different opinion and I'm trying to voice it doesn't mean I disrespect yours.

I don't agree. Ken has some good character development. But his own arc was decent, not legendary.


I'm chill. If I wasn't I'd be raging and yellling at you.

yet you said that you were pissed because someone said that burst outclasses mfb in development

Yes I did. Pissed means irritated. I wasn't raging.


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Admiral W - May. 13, 2021

(May. 13, 2021  7:08 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  6:37 PM)Admiral W Wrote: The isolation was handled just fine. He started out isolated and by the end he's fully opened up. Again your not getting it. Character arcs are the cornerstone of character growth. Any experienced writer will tell you this. Character development is when the motivations, personality, and goal of a character are revealed, character growth is included in that. Character growth is done via character arcs, and that's the backbone of any good character.

And when it comes to character growth through character arcs, Burst has MFB beat.

I don't agree. yes they are, but not all. 90 percent is not 100 percent. That's your opinion. In my opinion, MFB is better at that regard.

Burst is better at villians, gimmicks, and some other stuff.
When you look at the actual aspects of the writing what we find is that Burst takes the time to really grow their characters through definite character arcs in those first two seasons and some in season 4 as well. A great many characters in MFB don't change. Some do but most don't. I'm not trying to take away from your enjoyment of MFB, I'm just pointing out when you look at the technical aspects of the writing, we don't see much growth through character arcs in MFB. Burst takes the time to grow their characters in those first two seasons and some in Season 4. In the end I don't think we're going to convince each other of our respective positions so let's simply agree to disagree.


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - PinkRose - May. 13, 2021

(May. 13, 2021  7:10 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  6:35 PM)Strikegamerv6 Wrote: Ken has major character growth he started off not wanting to make many friends and he was shy and didn't really care about anything other than his puppets and his bey but Valt showed him a new perspective he cared about his friends and came out of his shell starting to talk way more towards the end of the series he also learned that friends will always be with him no matter where you go. Ken is one of my favorite characters PinkRose is right you need to respect other people's opinions and if you feel like what you're going to say might offend people then don't post or say In my opinion.

I'm not trying to offend someone. Just because I have a different opinion and I'm trying to voice it doesn't mean I disrespect yours.

I don't agree. Ken has some good character development. But his own arc was decent, not legendary.
Istg dude, you're contradicting yourself so hard. You called Kensuke trash and now you say his arc was decent? No one ever said it was legendary, all we said was that it was a nice example of character development.


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Ryuga's Son - May. 13, 2021

(May. 13, 2021  7:21 PM)PinkRose Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  7:10 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: I'm not trying to offend someone. Just because I have a different opinion and I'm trying to voice it doesn't mean I disrespect yours.

I don't agree. Ken has some good character development. But his own arc was decent, not legendary.
Istg dude, you're contradicting yourself so hard. You called Kensuke trash and now you say his arc was decent? No one ever said it was legendary, all we said was that it was a nice example of character development.

you were all fussing over it, that's cap. The character's trash, but the arc itself was decent.


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Instarez - May. 13, 2021

I’m not gonna argue with someone that said Gingka didn’t have a character arc. That’s genuinely false info.


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Pixi - May. 13, 2021

or lets just not argue at all lmao


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Instarez - May. 13, 2021

(May. 13, 2021  7:41 PM)Pixi Wrote: or lets just not argue at all lmao

Maybe don’t ignore the point of what I’m saying.

Toot your horn all you want, I’m not gonna debate with someone who spreads lies.


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Pixi - May. 13, 2021

(May. 13, 2021  7:42 PM)Instarez Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  7:41 PM)Pixi Wrote: or lets just not argue at all lmao

Maybe don’t ignore the point of what I’m saying.
i never did? i was just saying in general that we shouldn't argue.


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Instarez - May. 13, 2021

(May. 13, 2021  7:43 PM)Pixi Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  7:42 PM)Instarez Wrote: Maybe don’t ignore the point of what I’m saying.
i never did? i was just saying in general that we shouldn't argue.

You completely changed the subject.


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Pixi - May. 13, 2021

(May. 13, 2021  7:45 PM)Instarez Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  7:43 PM)Pixi Wrote: i never did? i was just saying in general that we shouldn't argue.

You completely changed the subject.

i was just saying. if you want to continue whatever you were doing right now then be my guest.


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Ryuga's Son - May. 13, 2021

(May. 13, 2021  7:17 PM)Admiral W Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  7:08 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: I don't agree. yes they are, but not all. 90 percent is not 100 percent. That's your opinion. In my opinion, MFB is better at that regard.

Burst is better at villians, gimmicks, and some other stuff.
When you look at the actual aspects of the writing what we find is that Burst takes the time to really grow their characters through definite character arcs in those first two seasons and some in season 4 as well. A great many characters in MFB don't change. Some do but most don't. I'm not trying to take away from your enjoyment of MFB, I'm just pointing out when you look at the technical aspects of the writing, we don't see much growth through character arcs in MFB. Burst takes the time to grow their characters in those first two seasons and some in Season 4. In the end I don't think we're going to convince each other of our respective positions so let's simply agree to disagree.

1. MFB actually spent equal time in each season. better than only doing it in two seasons.
2. That's false. Most MFB characters did change. those who didn't wheren't important to MFB's plot that much.
3. I disagree. MFB has on par or better character development than Burst.

Yes. Let's agree to disagree.

PinkRose, you, Pixi, I apologize if I was rude or offensive in this debate/argument. Forgive me please.


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Instarez - May. 13, 2021

(May. 13, 2021  7:46 PM)Pixi Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  7:45 PM)Instarez Wrote: You completely changed the subject.

i was just saying. if you want to continue whatever you were doing right now then be my guest.

I just said that I wasn’t going to continue debating since Admiral W was lying.


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Ryuga's Son - May. 13, 2021

(May. 13, 2021  7:41 PM)Pixi Wrote: or lets just not argue at all lmao

Yes. Let's cease this argument. Apologies.

(May. 13, 2021  7:47 PM)Instarez Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  7:46 PM)Pixi Wrote: i was just saying. if you want to continue whatever you were doing right now then be my guest.

I just said that I wasn’t going to continue debating since Admiral W was lying.

Admiral W's most points were valid, some were lies. the Most true points were exaggerated tho.


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Instarez - May. 13, 2021

The real problem here is the lack of people that have watched Bakuten Shoot Beyblade. Go ahead and expand your horizons it’s all on YouTube on the official channel for free.


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Admiral W - May. 13, 2021

(May. 13, 2021  7:47 PM)Instarez Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  7:46 PM)Pixi Wrote: i was just saying. if you want to continue whatever you were doing right now then be my guest.

I just said that I wasn’t going to continue debating since Admiral W was lying.
I certainly was not lying.


RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Instarez - May. 13, 2021

(May. 13, 2021  7:49 PM)Admiral W Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  7:47 PM)Instarez Wrote: I just said that I wasn’t going to continue debating since Admiral W was lying.
I certainly was not lying.

“Gingka doesn’t have a character arc”