(May. 13, 2021  4:47 PM)Instarez Wrote: Alright, here's my opinions.
Season 1:
Valt- small arc
Shu- nothing
Ken- small growth
Daina - small growth
Wakiya - small growth
Lui - small growth

Season 2:
Valt - small growth
Shu- character arc
Silas - small growth
Free - small growth

Season 3
Aiga - garbage arc
Fubuki - small growth
Ranjiro - small growth

Season 4
Delta - small growth
Fumiya- small growth
Blindt - small growth
Gwyn - small arc

Season 5
Lane - small arc

There isn't much character arcs. There's some growth, but it's pretty bare bones stuff. Ken makes friends, Daina and Wakiya aren't jerks, Lui gets less cold, and Valt hast hat one arc in the start where he believes in Valkyrie or whatever. Valt gets some small growth. Shu did get an actual arc though, that was nice. Silas and free just learned to not only care about themselves. Just really small changes. Aiga's arc was trash. Fubuki made some friends, and Ranjiro was less of a jerk. That's about it. Delta and Fumiya stopped being mean. Blindt barely had one, idk what was  going up with this dude. He didn't really change as a person, he just temporarily worked with the bad guys for no reason and then stopped for no reason. Gwyn had a small arc which was just him making friends.

As you can see. Beyblade really isn't the pinnacle of amazing characters. They could still certainty tackle more stuff though, for example: Brooklyn. Brooklyn was really good at everything, and therefore people were jealous, or thought he always thought of others and less than him. He was isolated from everyone and then grew cold. That's a pretty good backstory. What about Phi? Well, Phi didn't get the bey he wanted.... ok, Gwyn? He couldn't make friends. Shu? He just worked hard but couldn't get anywhere. In comparison to Brooklyn, those guys are a lot more stale.

Now let's look at Kenta. Kenta went on a journey of self discovery (literally), and learned to believe in himself. Free and Silas? They just didn't care about anyone else until they realized everyone else was nice and that they should care about them. Fubuki? Honestly he arguably didn't have any growth. He already had friends and wasn't mean or anything. Ranjiro, was just kind of mean until he wasn't.

Now for our heroes! Gingka is pretty unique. He was a blading prodigy, and could do anything on his own, therefore he wasn't  used to working with others. However when forces rose that were better than him, he was kind of shook. He tried to search for an answer, a why. But in reality, all he needed was to work with his friends. In doing so he became a better person. Valt? In Burst he was just mad until he learned to believe in his bey. In God he had to pull the team together that's it. Aiga … we don't talk about Aiga. Drum, he didn't really have any development. He met new people and made friends. Hyuga and Hikaru had 0 development.

So my point is: Burst character are stereotypical, and boring. They need to experiment with more character types like they used too, cause now it's just super small simple stuff like jerk becomes friendly, rather than some interesting and unique stuff, like a Brooklyn.  In comparison, Metal Fight and Bakuten Shoot have characters that just feel more human. They go through stuff, they feel things, you can relate to them. It's a lot more than what Burst does. Even Bell seems to be having a jerk becomes friendly arc, which is just great.

(May. 13, 2021  5:05 PM)Admiral W Wrote:

(May. 13, 2021  4:47 PM)Instarez Wrote: Alright, here's my opinions.
Season 1:
Valt- small arc
Shu- nothing
Ken- small growth
Daina - small growth
Wakiya - small growth
Lui - small growth

Season 2:
Valt - small growth
Shu- character arc
Silas - small growth
Free - small growth

Season 3
Aiga - garbage arc
Fubuki - small growth
Ranjiro - small growth

Season 4
Delta - small growth
Fumiya- small growth
Blindt - small growth
Gwyn - small arc

Season 5
Lane - small arc

There isn't much character arcs. There's some growth, but it's pretty bare bones stuff. Ken makes friends, Daina and Wakiya aren't jerks, Lui gets less cold, and Valt hast hat one arc in the start where he believes in Valkyrie or whatever. Valt gets some small growth. Shu did get an actual arc though, that was nice. Silas and free just learned to not only care about themselves. Just really small changes. Aiga's arc was trash. Fubuki made some friends, and Ranjiro was less of a jerk. That's about it. Delta and Fumiya stopped being mean. Blindt barely had one, idk what was  going up with this dude. He didn't really change as a person, he just temporarily worked with the bad guys for no reason and then stopped for no reason. Gwyn had a small arc which was just him making friends.

As you can see. Beyblade really isn't the pinnacle of amazing characters. They could still certainty tackle more stuff though, for example: Brooklyn. Brooklyn was really good at everything, and therefore people were jealous, or thought he always thought of others and less than him. He was isolated from everyone and then grew cold. That's a pretty good backstory. What about Phi? Well, Phi didn't get the bey he wanted.... ok, Gwyn? He couldn't make friends. Shu? He just worked hard but couldn't get anywhere. In comparison to Brooklyn, those guys are a lot more stale.

Now let's look at Kenta. Kenta went on a journey of self discovery (literally), and learned to believe in himself. Free and Silas? They just didn't care about anyone else until they realized everyone else was nice and that they should care about them. Fubuki? Honestly he arguably didn't have any growth. He already had friends and wasn't mean or anything. Ranjiro, was just kind of mean until he wasn't.

Now for our heroes! Gingka is pretty unique. He was a blading prodigy, and could do anything on his own, therefore he wasn't  used to working with others. However when forces rose that were better than him, he was kind of shook. He tried to search for an answer, a why. But in reality, all he needed was to work with his friends. In doing so he became a better person. Valt? In Burst he was just mad until he learned to believe in his bey. In God he had to pull the team together that's it. Aiga … we don't talk about Aiga. Drum, he didn't really have any development. He met new people and made friends. Hyuga and Hikaru had 0 development.

So my point is: Burst character are stereotypical, and boring. They need to experiment with more character types like they used too, cause now it's just super small simple stuff like jerk becomes friendly, rather than some interesting and unique stuff, like a Brooklyn.  In comparison, Metal Fight and Bakuten Shoot have characters that just feel more human. They go through stuff, they feel things, you can relate to them. It's a lot more than what Burst does. Even Bell seems to be having a jerk becomes friendly arc, which is just great.

I don't agree. Honestly you missed a lot of details with regards to Burst. Those first two seasons really took the characters on relatable arcs. I made a post on the previous page detailing some of the arcs of a few of the Burst characters. So you can look at that for a more indepth dive. Just to give one example here, Daigo's arc is one plenty can relate to. His desire to improve in the face of Valt's growing skill led him to cheat and afterward he struggled with the choice he made. Plenty of people can relate to making a serious mistake and struggling with the regret, the guilt of what you've done, your mind constantly reminding you of the error you made. The show very nicely illustrated his struggle, with the constant flashbacks of that choice. In the end he resolves to never repeat that mistake. To never betray himself that way again. I like how they touched on this later in season when he tell Jin that its not about getting caught, it about being able to look yourself in the mirror. This is just one example. Those first two seasons are full of good character arcs that which we didn't really see much of in Metal Fight. I can't speak to OG since I haven't seen it.

(May. 13, 2021  5:19 PM)Orbit Wrote: Why many people are saying about character growth is true. Almost every major character either has character development or is used to develop others. Gingka is just the main character, though the main plot development he has is when he tries to gain more power by returning to the village and after his dad too away his bey pointer. Kenta also develops as time goes on, but a specific moment where he does more would Ben with Benkei when he’s trying to beat Hikaru. Benkei develops in that moment too, and also when Kyoya leaves. Kyoya just starts out as a mini Villain but turns into a kind of anti hero after Gingka helps him. Tsubasa doesn’t have Much character growth over the show, instead he is a mysterious figure who shows his true personablity and motivations later on. Yu grows as a character when he realizes he’s on the side of things.

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These are all just examples from metal fusion, not even the greater metal fight

(May. 13, 2021  5:20 PM)PinkRose Wrote: Yes, but the way they portrayed his thoughts and his struggle with the guilt is what made it seem so relatable and is honestly very well-done.

(May. 13, 2021  5:18 PM)Instarez Wrote:

(May. 13, 2021  5:05 PM)Admiral W Wrote: I don't agree. Honestly you missed a lot of details with regards to Burst. Those first two seasons really took the characters on relatable arcs. I made a post on the previous page detailing some of the arcs of a few of the Burst characters. So you can look at that for a more indepth dive. Just to give one example here, Daigo's arc is one plenty can relate to. His desire to improve in the face of Valt's growing skill led him to cheat and afterward he struggled with the choice he made. Plenty of people can relate to making a serious mistake and struggling with the regret, the guilt of what you've done, your mind constantly reminding you of the error you made. The show very nicely illustrated his struggle, with the constant flashbacks of that choice. In the end he resolves to never repeat that mistake. To never betray himself that way again. I like how they touched on this later in season when he tell Jin that its not about getting caught, it about being able to look yourself in the mirror. This is just one example. Those first two seasons are full of good character arcs that which we didn't really see much of in Metal Fight. I can't speak to OG since I haven't seen it.

Daigo just was a jerk, then he was nice, then he wanted to get better through cheating, but then he decided to play fair and win. Nothing real insane.

(May. 13, 2021  5:22 PM)Instarez Wrote:

(May. 13, 2021  5:20 PM)PinkRose Wrote: Yes, but the way they portrayed his thoughts and his struggle with the guilt is what made it seem so relatable and is honestly very well-done.

He just looked in the mirror and saw edgy Daina. There's way better portrayals.  Brooklyn's wings themselves are incredible portrayals of his arc, and him as a person.

(May. 13, 2021  5:23 PM)Admiral W Wrote:

(May. 13, 2021  5:18 PM)Instarez Wrote: Daigo just was a jerk, then he was nice, then he wanted to get better through cheating, but then he decided to play fair and win. Nothing real insane.

I think your misrepresenting the arc. I'd recommend taking a look at it again. We see Daigo struggle really badly with the mistake he made. He was plagued by guilt and regret over that decision. I don't know of anyone who doesn't know what's it's like to regret a mistake they've made, to struggle with the guilt over a serious error.

(May. 13, 2021  5:26 PM)Instarez Wrote:

(May. 13, 2021  5:23 PM)Admiral W Wrote: I think your misrepresenting the arc. I'd recommend taking a look at it again. We see Daigo struggle really badly with the mistake he made. He was plagued by guilt and regret over that decision. I don't know of anyone who doesn't know what's it's like to regret a mistake they've made, to struggle with the guilt over a serious error.

Daina's guilt and struggle was just essentially him getting notifications on his phone that he didn't want.

(May. 13, 2021  5:29 PM)Orbit Wrote: Now that I think about it metal fury didn’t have much character development outside Kenta and maybe Yuki as well. They just kinda introduced a lot of characters and their personalities and didnt do much outside of the main story with them. Maybe that’s why everyone thinks kenta is the best part of the season. Or at least I hope everyone does.

(May. 13, 2021  5:31 PM)PinkRose Wrote:

(May. 13, 2021  5:29 PM)Orbit Wrote: Now that I think about it metal fury didn’t have much character development outside Kenta and maybe Yuki as well. They just kinda introduced a lot of characters and their personalities and didnt do much outside of the main story with them. Maybe that’s why everyone thinks kenta is the best part of the season. Or at least I hope everyone does.

From what I've seen of Fury (which isn't much really, I lost interest too quickly), that is the case. Kenta's probably the only character in the series (or in the Metal Saga period) that had actually substantial and profound character development.
Yeah, I need to try and rewatch MFB to catch up with this stuff.

(May. 13, 2021  5:28 PM)Admiral W Wrote:

(May. 13, 2021  5:26 PM)Instarez Wrote: Daina's guilt and struggle was just essentially him getting notifications on his phone that he didn't want.

Again I think you missed major details of the portrayal of his arc. What your describing is not how it happened.

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(May. 13, 2021  5:33 PM)Instarez Wrote:

(May. 13, 2021  5:28 PM)Admiral W Wrote: Again I think you missed major details of the portrayal of his arc. What your describing is not how it happened.

I'm all ears if you have something better than this. You're missing my entire point either way.
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Y'all are forgetting my mans Masamune and Benkei, guess they just didn't happen lol.

(May. 13, 2021  5:35 PM)Admiral W Wrote:

(May. 13, 2021  5:33 PM)Instarez Wrote: I'm all ears if you have something better than this. You're missing my entire point either way.
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Y'all are forgetting my mans Masamune and Benkei, guess they just didn't happen lol.

What are you trying to get across then?

(May. 13, 2021  3:29 PM)Admiral W Wrote:

(May. 13, 2021  3:12 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: Yes they did. Fusion there was decent growth, Masters had expert growth, and Fury had God-Level Growth. A LITTLE?! A LITTLE?! Kenta, being the weakest blader, grows up to be a Legendary Blader! Ryuga, puts down his pride, saves the World. Kyoya, learns, to work together. Chris learns his mistake in siding with Nemesis beforehand. What about Burst? Same old thing. Get defeated, train, defeat the person who defeated you.

What growth was there in Fusion, how were the characters different on a personal level by the end then they were in the beginning? None really. And the only real definite character arcs in Fury, were with Kenta and Ryuga.

Valt, Ken, Daigo, Shu, Wakiya, Silas, Free, they all had definite character arcs where we got to see how on a personal level they changed as individuals. And there's even more when you look at the mini arcs some of the side characters like Naoki and Rixon underwent. 

Valt struggles with self doubt throughout much of season 1 and finally comes to a place where he has confidence in his abilities as a blader and has learned not to let the negative opinions others have of him to stop him from moving forward, we also see him struggle with finding his own path forward instead of imitating how others view what it takes to be a better blader, and this isn't even counting all the ways he grew as a blader.

Ken struggles very much with being isolated, and very closed in, very shy, but after meeting Valt and the others he opens up little by little across the season and by the end, he's come to be very close to all the bey club members, and when he returns at the national tournament, he's has such a new confidence about him, he's no longer the same shy person he was at the beginning.

I made a whole post about Silas' character arc and how he started out as a person concerned only with his own prestige and status and was always looking for a place to belong which is why he bounced around to different bey clubs. By the end of the world league though he's come to acutally care and rely on the members of BC Sol, and he actually wants to win not for his own prestige, but he wants to win for the team, and to live up to the trust they've placed in him. He's no longer the self centered person he was at the beginning. At the international bladers cup he even tells Kris that he wants to make BC Sol a household name, demonstrating again that he isn't thinking just about himself anymore. And after all that wondering he did before he joined the team, he has finally found a place to belong.

I could go on and on about how those characters changed on a personal level, they had definite arcs. I could go even more indepth on the other characters but this post would be even longer than it is. We don't see much of this kind of personal character growth through definite arcs in MFB.

I already mentioned Kenta and Ryuga and that was only in Fury. Kyoya didn't necessarily learn to work together, he was forced to, and even towards the end he was still simply concerned with getting his revenge on Aguma. He worked with the others at the end because he had no choice due to the fate of the world being at stake. Chris had a mini arc that's comparable with some of the mini arcs some burst side characters had.

All in all when it comes to growth through definite character arcs, Burst has done more, and the arcs they've done have been far more meaningful and relatable.

(May. 13, 2021  5:43 PM)Instarez Wrote:

(May. 13, 2021  5:35 PM)Admiral W Wrote: What are you trying to get across then?

I'll just quote myself

So my point is: Burst character are stereotypical, and boring. They need to experiment with more character types like they used too, cause now it's just super small simple stuff like jerk becomes friendly, rather than some interesting and unique stuff, like a Brooklyn.  In comparison, Metal Fight and Bakuten Shoot have characters that just feel more human. They go through stuff, they feel things, you can relate to them. It's a lot more than what Burst does. Even Bell seems to be having a jerk becomes friendly arc, which is just great.

(May. 13, 2021  3:47 PM)PinkRose Wrote:

(May. 13, 2021  3:00 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: ONLY s1 and s2. Let's calculate. 2/5= 40 percent. MFB= 3/3= 100%. MFB had Kenta, Gingka, Masuname, Ryuga, Aguma, Chris, Dynamis, I could name more.  Burst had only handful of characters who developed.

Burst=40%? MFB=100%? What?
The only characters that actually get decent development in all of MFB from what I remember were Kenta (this one's the most memorable probably), Kyoya (he's pretty much the same as Sisco but I'd say the latter is better) and you could say Ryuga and Gingka (these two are kinda debatable tho), and even outside these their character development just doesn't match Burst's.
Admiral W already mentioned a plethora of characters that went through meaningful and relatable character development, and there's even more (Lui, Fubuki, Amane, Hikaru even tho he got rushed...heck even Aiga). Point is, if there's one thing Burst outclasses MFB in, it's character development.

(May. 13, 2021  4:47 PM)Instarez Wrote: Alright, here's my opinions.
Season 1:
Valt- small arc
Shu- nothing
Ken- small growth
Daina - small growth
Wakiya - small growth
Lui - small growth

Season 2:
Valt - small growth
Shu- character arc
Silas - small growth
Free - small growth

Season 3
Aiga - garbage arc
Fubuki - small growth
Ranjiro - small growth

Season 4
Delta - small growth
Fumiya- small growth
Blindt - small growth
Gwyn - small arc

Season 5
Lane - small arc

There isn't much character arcs. There's some growth, but it's pretty bare bones stuff. Ken makes friends, Daina and Wakiya aren't jerks, Lui gets less cold, and Valt hast hat one arc in the start where he believes in Valkyrie or whatever. Valt gets some small growth. Shu did get an actual arc though, that was nice. Silas and free just learned to not only care about themselves. Just really small changes. Aiga's arc was trash. Fubuki made some friends, and Ranjiro was less of a jerk. That's about it. Delta and Fumiya stopped being mean. Blindt barely had one, idk what was  going up with this dude. He didn't really change as a person, he just temporarily worked with the bad guys for no reason and then stopped for no reason. Gwyn had a small arc which was just him making friends.

As you can see. Beyblade really isn't the pinnacle of amazing characters. They could still certainty tackle more stuff though, for example: Brooklyn. Brooklyn was really good at everything, and therefore people were jealous, or thought he always thought of others and less than him. He was isolated from everyone and then grew cold. That's a pretty good backstory. What about Phi? Well, Phi didn't get the bey he wanted.... ok, Gwyn? He couldn't make friends. Shu? He just worked hard but couldn't get anywhere. In comparison to Brooklyn, those guys are a lot more stale.

Now let's look at Kenta. Kenta went on a journey of self discovery (literally), and learned to believe in himself. Free and Silas? They just didn't care about anyone else until they realized everyone else was nice and that they should care about them. Fubuki? Honestly he arguably didn't have any growth. He already had friends and wasn't mean or anything. Ranjiro, was just kind of mean until he wasn't.

Now for our heroes! Gingka is pretty unique. He was a blading prodigy, and could do anything on his own, therefore he wasn't  used to working with others. However when forces rose that were better than him, he was kind of shook. He tried to search for an answer, a why. But in reality, all he needed was to work with his friends. In doing so he became a better person. Valt? In Burst he was just mad until he learned to believe in his bey. In God he had to pull the team together that's it. Aiga … we don't talk about Aiga. Drum, he didn't really have any development. He met new people and made friends. Hyuga and Hikaru had 0 development.

So my point is: Burst character are stereotypical, and boring. They need to experiment with more character types like they used too, cause now it's just super small simple stuff like jerk becomes friendly, rather than some interesting and unique stuff, like a Brooklyn.  In comparison, Metal Fight and Bakuten Shoot have characters that just feel more human. They go through stuff, they feel things, you can relate to them. It's a lot more than what Burst does. Even Bell seems to be having a jerk becomes friendly arc, which is just great.

(May. 13, 2021  5:45 PM)Admiral W Wrote:

(May. 13, 2021  5:43 PM)Instarez Wrote: I'll just quote myself

So my point is: Burst character are stereotypical, and boring. They need to experiment with more character types like they used too, cause now it's just super small simple stuff like jerk becomes friendly, rather than some interesting and unique stuff, like a Brooklyn.  In comparison, Metal Fight and Bakuten Shoot have characters that just feel more human. They go through stuff, they feel things, you can relate to them. It's a lot more than what Burst does. Even Bell seems to be having a jerk becomes friendly arc, which is just great.

I read that, but what I'm trying to point out to is that acutally not the case. Which is why I mentioned that you missed a lot of details with regards to Burst.

(May. 13, 2021  5:05 PM)Admiral W Wrote:

(May. 13, 2021  4:47 PM)Instarez Wrote: Alright, here's my opinions.
Season 1:
Valt- small arc
Shu- nothing
Ken- small growth
Daina - small growth
Wakiya - small growth
Lui - small growth

Season 2:
Valt - small growth
Shu- character arc
Silas - small growth
Free - small growth

Season 3
Aiga - garbage arc
Fubuki - small growth
Ranjiro - small growth

Season 4
Delta - small growth
Fumiya- small growth
Blindt - small growth
Gwyn - small arc

Season 5
Lane - small arc

There isn't much character arcs. There's some growth, but it's pretty bare bones stuff. Ken makes friends, Daina and Wakiya aren't jerks, Lui gets less cold, and Valt hast hat one arc in the start where he believes in Valkyrie or whatever. Valt gets some small growth. Shu did get an actual arc though, that was nice. Silas and free just learned to not only care about themselves. Just really small changes. Aiga's arc was trash. Fubuki made some friends, and Ranjiro was less of a jerk. That's about it. Delta and Fumiya stopped being mean. Blindt barely had one, idk what was  going up with this dude. He didn't really change as a person, he just temporarily worked with the bad guys for no reason and then stopped for no reason. Gwyn had a small arc which was just him making friends.

As you can see. Beyblade really isn't the pinnacle of amazing characters. They could still certainty tackle more stuff though, for example: Brooklyn. Brooklyn was really good at everything, and therefore people were jealous, or thought he always thought of others and less than him. He was isolated from everyone and then grew cold. That's a pretty good backstory. What about Phi? Well, Phi didn't get the bey he wanted.... ok, Gwyn? He couldn't make friends. Shu? He just worked hard but couldn't get anywhere. In comparison to Brooklyn, those guys are a lot more stale.

Now let's look at Kenta. Kenta went on a journey of self discovery (literally), and learned to believe in himself. Free and Silas? They just didn't care about anyone else until they realized everyone else was nice and that they should care about them. Fubuki? Honestly he arguably didn't have any growth. He already had friends and wasn't mean or anything. Ranjiro, was just kind of mean until he wasn't.

Now for our heroes! Gingka is pretty unique. He was a blading prodigy, and could do anything on his own, therefore he wasn't  used to working with others. However when forces rose that were better than him, he was kind of shook. He tried to search for an answer, a why. But in reality, all he needed was to work with his friends. In doing so he became a better person. Valt? In Burst he was just mad until he learned to believe in his bey. In God he had to pull the team together that's it. Aiga … we don't talk about Aiga. Drum, he didn't really have any development. He met new people and made friends. Hyuga and Hikaru had 0 development.

So my point is: Burst character are stereotypical, and boring. They need to experiment with more character types like they used too, cause now it's just super small simple stuff like jerk becomes friendly, rather than some interesting and unique stuff, like a Brooklyn.  In comparison, Metal Fight and Bakuten Shoot have characters that just feel more human. They go through stuff, they feel things, you can relate to them. It's a lot more than what Burst does. Even Bell seems to be having a jerk becomes friendly arc, which is just great.

I don't agree. Honestly you missed a lot of details with regards to Burst. Those first two seasons really took the characters on relatable arcs. I made a post on the previous page detailing some of the arcs of a few of the Burst characters. So you can look at that for a more indepth dive. Just to give one example here, Daigo's arc is one plenty can relate to. His desire to improve in the face of Valt's growing skill led him to cheat and afterward he struggled with the choice he made. Plenty of people can relate to making a serious mistake and struggling with the regret, the guilt of what you've done, your mind constantly reminding you of the error you made. The show very nicely illustrated his struggle, with the constant flashbacks of that choice. In the end he resolves to never repeat that mistake. To never betray himself that way again. I like how they touched on this later in season when he told Jin that its not about getting caught, it about being able to look yourself in the mirror. This is just one example. Those first two seasons are full of great, meanigful, relatable character arcs stuff we didn't we didn't really see much of in Metal Fight. I can't speak to OG since I haven't seen it.

(May. 13, 2021  5:46 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote:

(May. 13, 2021  3:47 PM)PinkRose Wrote: Burst=40%? MFB=100%? What?
The only characters that actually get decent development in all of MFB from what I remember were Kenta (this one's the most memorable probably), Kyoya (he's pretty much the same as Sisco but I'd say the latter is better) and you could say Ryuga and Gingka (these two are kinda debatable tho), and even outside these their character development just doesn't match Burst's.
Admiral W already mentioned a plethora of characters that went through meaningful and relatable character development, and there's even more (Lui, Fubuki, Amane, Hikaru even tho he got rushed...heck even Aiga). Point is, if there's one thing Burst outclasses MFB in, it's character development.

That's cap. I think otherwise. Ryuga, Kenta, Gingka, Kyoya, Aguma, King, Masuname, etc a lot of characters. if you want that, I will literally post a whole five paragraph essay why after school and if I get free.

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(May. 13, 2021  4:47 PM)Instarez Wrote: Alright, here's my opinions.
Season 1:
Valt- small arc
Shu- nothing
Ken- small growth
Daina - small growth
Wakiya - small growth
Lui - small growth

Season 2:
Valt - small growth
Shu- character arc
Silas - small growth
Free - small growth

Season 3
Aiga - garbage arc
Fubuki - small growth
Ranjiro - small growth

Season 4
Delta - small growth
Fumiya- small growth
Blindt - small growth
Gwyn - small arc

Season 5
Lane - small arc

There isn't much character arcs. There's some growth, but it's pretty bare bones stuff. Ken makes friends, Daina and Wakiya aren't jerks, Lui gets less cold, and Valt hast hat one arc in the start where he believes in Valkyrie or whatever. Valt gets some small growth. Shu did get an actual arc though, that was nice. Silas and free just learned to not only care about themselves. Just really small changes. Aiga's arc was trash. Fubuki made some friends, and Ranjiro was less of a jerk. That's about it. Delta and Fumiya stopped being mean. Blindt barely had one, idk what was  going up with this dude. He didn't really change as a person, he just temporarily worked with the bad guys for no reason and then stopped for no reason. Gwyn had a small arc which was just him making friends.

As you can see. Beyblade really isn't the pinnacle of amazing characters. They could still certainty tackle more stuff though, for example: Brooklyn. Brooklyn was really good at everything, and therefore people were jealous, or thought he always thought of others and less than him. He was isolated from everyone and then grew cold. That's a pretty good backstory. What about Phi? Well, Phi didn't get the bey he wanted.... ok, Gwyn? He couldn't make friends. Shu? He just worked hard but couldn't get anywhere. In comparison to Brooklyn, those guys are a lot more stale.

Now let's look at Kenta. Kenta went on a journey of self discovery (literally), and learned to believe in himself. Free and Silas? They just didn't care about anyone else until they realized everyone else was nice and that they should care about them. Fubuki? Honestly he arguably didn't have any growth. He already had friends and wasn't mean or anything. Ranjiro, was just kind of mean until he wasn't.

Now for our heroes! Gingka is pretty unique. He was a blading prodigy, and could do anything on his own, therefore he wasn't  used to working with others. However when forces rose that were better than him, he was kind of shook. He tried to search for an answer, a why. But in reality, all he needed was to work with his friends. In doing so he became a better person. Valt? In Burst he was just mad until he learned to believe in his bey. In God he had to pull the team together that's it. Aiga … we don't talk about Aiga. Drum, he didn't really have any development. He met new people and made friends. Hyuga and Hikaru had 0 development.

So my point is: Burst character are stereotypical, and boring. They need to experiment with more character types like they used too, cause now it's just super small simple stuff like jerk becomes friendly, rather than some interesting and unique stuff, like a Brooklyn.  In comparison, Metal Fight and Bakuten Shoot have characters that just feel more human. They go through stuff, they feel things, you can relate to them. It's a lot more than what Burst does. Even Bell seems to be having a jerk becomes friendly arc, which is just great.

I completely agree with you. here. A better five paragprah essay.