RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Needforspeed - Mar. 16, 2021
(Mar. 16, 2021 2:24 AM)Ryuga's Son Wrote: I disagree with what you said about the flaws in Evolution. Evolution was amazing imo. That battles were cool and good, and I really liked it. Evolution in my opinion was the second best season of burst Well I wasn't saying the battle are bad in fact I think God/Evolution has one of the most consistent battles, I saying that some battle rely on previous season encounters which kinda threw me off in my rewatch.
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Admiral W - Mar. 16, 2021
(Mar. 15, 2021 9:50 PM)Zeutron Wrote: (Mar. 15, 2021 9:44 PM)Jake the Blur Wrote: If I may ask, from best to worst what is everyone's favorite burst series? I get some were good and some bad, but I'm curious!
Here's mine!
1 - Evolution
2 - Gachi
3 - Sparking
4 - Turbo
5 - OG
1: Burst
2: Evolution
3 GT
4: Superking
5: Turbo
Great minds think alike I see.
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Zeutron - Mar. 16, 2021
(Mar. 16, 2021 12:47 PM)Admiral W Wrote: (Mar. 15, 2021 9:50 PM)Zeutron Wrote: 1: Burst
2: Evolution
3 GT
4: Superking
5: Turbo
Great minds think alike I see.
Yup seems like it.
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - 6Jupiter5 - Mar. 16, 2021
(Mar. 15, 2021 9:50 PM)Zeutron Wrote: (Mar. 15, 2021 9:44 PM)Jake the Blur Wrote: If I may ask, from best to worst what is everyone's favorite burst series? I get some were good and some bad, but I'm curious!
Here's mine!
1 - Evolution
2 - Gachi
3 - Sparking
4 - Turbo
5 - OG
1: Burst
2: Evolution
3 GT
4: Superking
5: Turbo
Wow. Mine is literally the reverse of this list.
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - TeamRocketDJJ - Mar. 16, 2021
As of March 16, 2021, I will not be starting new threads from me, because many of you guys think I am spamming with them, when I ask questions and or letting you know what good news are from me.
I may just talk and share my thoughts and questions right here.
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - sushiroll1234 - Mar. 17, 2021
Lmao shu when he does counter break: https://youtu.be/txnXGF_307o?t=305
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Zeutron - Mar. 17, 2021
My updated tag league ranking. This is basically the last one since the final battle really won’t change anything.
1: Lane: Do I even need to explain this? His Flare and resonance are beyond anything exhibited in the history of burst. He has taken on and annihilated the strongest most experienced bladers in burst history throughout this tournament as well as Hyuga and Hikaru. Truth be told his record is extremely impressive and he doesn’t even really need Shu to succeed. Lane has even shown the capability to take on multiple bladers on level ground and still stomp them on his very own. Lane is arguably not only the best blader in this tournament but the best in burst as a whole. It even seems like Hyuga and Hikaru will have to 2v1 him to beat him in the final episode (although I could be wrong)
2: Hikaru is more or less the same as Hyuga but he is smarter which I feel is a big factor for this particular duo. The reason for this is because he is a more rational thinker which is what leads him and his brother to victory- for example: at times Hyuga can’t help but attack on his own but Hikaru is the one who primarily encourages Hyuga to work with him which has rocketed their performance in the tournament as it makes them organized and powerful. Like Hyuga he has flare and it seems to have risen to a level closer to Hyuga’s since the tournament started. He also used a limit break and special move combination when fighting Silas which would definitely give him some individual credit but he still needed Hyuga’s help and only managed to draw with Silas so it’s only somewhat impressive. Hikaru always seems to use his limit break in more creative ways than Hyuga, yet another reason to put him above his brother.
3: Hyuga: Hyuga is an absolute beast of an opponent his utilization of flare instantly gives him a boost over the competition. His raw power and resonance are a bit better than Hikaru’s but I feel like he lacks in intelligence which sets him below Hikaru but doesn’t change the fact that he is tough. He and Hikaru may have had the easiest loss to Lane and Shu but everyone loses to those two anyways so the way I see it, it’s not that big of a deal. After they got annihilated by Valt and Rantaro they fortunately seemed to perform far better. They crushed Aiga and Ranjiro with ease and their battle with Lui and Drum ended with the two getting their beys burst in the face of Hyuga and Hikaru. Even Wakiya couldn’t stand up against the move and ended up losing. Their flare combined with their creative usage of limit break power has made them deadly but their usage of the ultimate tag move “twin strike” is what truly sets them apart from the rest. That’s not all either, he improvised in spot and came up with the twin impact break, which allowed them to beat a Valt and Rantaro. Another twin move only lightens my image even further. Despite this, I still feel like he belongs below Hikaru.
4: Valt: Now Valt is in interesting case here. He’s is a fair bit higher than Rantaro simply because he always puts up an intense fight. Even when Rantaro was getting knocked around Valt was there to take on the challenge and Lui and Drum have to really drop in some intense effort to beat him and even the Hyper Tornado/Infinite Buster combination was only enough to knock him out. He also seems to have come up with synchro lightning so there’s that. His record in the tournament is also something I factor in which is why I put him above Lui and Wakiya, even though they (Lui and Drum) win their next match, Valt and Rantaro have still taken on Hyuga and Hikaru and won which gives him an edge over Lui and Drum. Additionally he really seemed to be able to come up with innovative strategy’s such as as storm plate barrage on Dragon and the waste of Hyuga and Hikaru’s limit break abilities (when he sent them flying into one another). He used the Mach tornado + Valkyrie combination with Rantaro (although he didn’t come up with this one) and he also outlasted Hyuga in a tag vs tag battle (Hikaru surviving was the reason why they won). He eliminated Lane and is the only one to have done it so far (albeit with Rantaro’s help), and he also best Shu by a second. This time around I moved Valt above Shu mainly because of the beating Lane feat.
5: Shu: I would put Shu and Valt on equal footing but his record with Lane has influenced this decision alongside his immense intelligence. Although Shu hasn’t done much, his strategies and intellectual decisions have proven to be the greatest of all in this tournament even if they aren’t absolutely necessary, such as his world slash and limit break slam combination with Lane or his limit break activation (which evidently wasn’t necessary but still made things easier), he was additionally the first blader to effectively utilize the storm plate and he seems to have mastered it. He also eliminated Free but seeing as Free has been getting tossed throughout this tournament, it doesn’t seem like that big of a deal. You may think that Shu being above Valt is weird but Shu tanked Synchro lightning and survived with almost no strain this makes him the only person to have successfully tanked a tag move on his own, arguably the best enduring feat in the tournament.
6: Lui: Like Drum, Lui has been absolutely dominating his opponents whether he wins or loses and he really has to be drawn out to be defeated. His raw power has been unrivalled and many beys such as Ragnaruk, Spriggan and Valkyrie have been sent flying back when they tried head on contact at the start of the battle. Apart from this, he seems to be the mastermind and brains behind his duo and he is responsible for all the teams powerful strategies and techniques which has proven him as a formidable opponent. Based on the next episode, he is also going to either create, or mutually invent the powerful friendship boosted Raging Tempest with Drum.
7: Wakiya: Now some people may not like me putting him this high or rather this low but I think it’s perfect. We have to understand that although Wakiya was able to continuously dominate multiple legends as well as Hyuga and Hikaru with his overwhelming defensive capabilities and counter techniques this was also his introduction episode hence, why I am not taking these particular feats with as much regard which is why he is as low as he is (plus one of his opponents was Aiga who is absolutely lacking). Now the one thing that really convinced me that this guy was the real deal was that, when he did lose, he lost by a simple over finish to TWIN STRIKE which is pretty much an insta kill against most tags in this tournament. Wakiya has come a long way and we can see that.
8: Rantaro: Was a tough decision between Rantaro and Aiga but since Rantaro played a major part in both of his wins, I’ll put him above Aiga. Rantaro may have one of the better records in this tournament, I’ll give him that. But one thing we have to take into consideration is the fact that when he loses, he loses badly. Aiga and Ranjiro made him look like a joke and Lui and Drum were dominating him throughout that one sided battle. Still, the record still stands and he has fought nicely even managing to beat Hikaru who is one of the best bladers in this tournament. Him and Valt also managed to tie with Hyuga and Hikaru at full power which is a pretty good feat. He invented Mach Tornado, a move that is easily one of the most powerful in the entire tournament and also synergized with Valkyrie to create a double move as well (and one far more powerful than synchro lightning at that). When he used this move with Valt, they actually both managed to burst after Hyuga (who was also using a limit break tag move) and only lost because Hikaru survived. Him and Valt were able to come up with a strategy that actually helped them defeat Lane, this makes them the first group to do it. Valt is a fair bit higher then Rantaro seeing as he actually puts up better fights. I’m not sure about Rantaro being above Drum but I’ll let y’all tell me what you think.
9: Drum: Now Drum is a very interesting one. He and Lui may have one of the lower ended records but they are going to win their next battle anyways so I’ll count it based on what we know. Throughout the tournament Drum has always put up an intense fight regardless of if he won the battle or not and his performance was insane. He was additionally able to access a powerful rainbow aura which should count for something.
10: Ranjiro: Okay so Ranjiro is where the bladers start to get a bit better. He actually puts a good amount of efforts into his battles and was responsible for beating Silas who himself kept going with Ranjiro till the end. He was responsible for their first win and shared equal responsibility with Aiga during their second. The Hyper Tornado Achilles strategy seemed to be his own which would also give him so more credibility. Lastly, in the fight with Lane he seemed to do more then Aiga and even saved him from limit break the end which is nice. He’s above Rantaro because he can actually take a loss while putting up a good fight. Yes, Lui eliminated him but he was out of Stamina and got forcibly flung into Longinus in a completely unfair situation due to hyper tornado holding out to long so I won’t hold it against him. Btw, Rantaro pulled himself together and because of that I moved Ranjiro below him.
11: Aiga: I think this one is fairly simple. Aiga hasn’t really done much apart from his performance in the latest episode. It doesn’t seem like he puts up as much of a fight as Ranjiro. His performance in the latest episode is what saved him from being at the dead bottom of this list since him and Ranjiro completely destroyed Valt and Rantaro when they used their double attack. He tied with Drum in a battle of double moves but he missed the first attack which caused his team to lose the battle (although I don’t blame Aiga for this, it’s more like competence of Drum and Aiga), so I think that episode doesn’t effect this.
12: Silas: This is a very similar case to Free, the reason why he is higher is because he took on Lucifer the End on his own and only lost by a spin finish AFTER Shu (a blader who is obviously weaker than Lane) eliminated him Free first, which is pretty crazy. He also knocked both Fafnir and Longinus out so I will give him a slight edge for that one. He also managed to Draw with Hikaru even after getting hit by a limit break + special move combination and 2v1 while Free was simply knocked out by Hyuga which is pretty crazy in his part. I feel like the latest episode really solidifies his placement over Free. Another thing I’ve been thinking about, although Silas has one of the worst records in the tournament, I still feel like he puts up better fights than Aiga. Should he be placed above?
13: Free: Him and Silas have one of the worst records in the tournament. Their battles are always short and concise and they’re only notable battle was the one they had with Lui and Drum where I would say they did equal work, maybe Silas a slight bit more since he knocked both beys out. In the lastest episode Hyuga easily eliminated Free simply by using limit break burn which just makes things even worse for him especially since the battle was mostly one sided with the bros constant keeping Free and Silas on their backs. Generally Free has been getting knocked out quite fast and early or too easily throughout his battles in the tournament and it just makes him look like a glass cannon.
Thoughts?
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RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - God Dragruler - Mar. 17, 2021
(Mar. 17, 2021 3:12 AM)Zeutron Wrote: My updated tag league ranking. This is basically the last one since the final battle really won’t change anything.
1: Lane: Do I even need to explain this? His Flare and resonance are beyond anything exhibited in the history of burst. He has taken on and annihilated the strongest most experienced bladers in burst history throughout this tournament as well as Hyuga and Hikaru. Truth be told his record is extremely impressive and he doesn’t even really need Shu to succeed. Lane has even shown the capability to take on multiple bladers on level ground and still stomp them on his very own. Lane is arguably not only the best blader in this tournament but the best in burst as a whole. It even seems like Hyuga and Hikaru will have to 2v1 him to beat him in the final episode (although I could be wrong)
2: Hikaru is more or less the same as Hyuga but he is smarter which I feel is a big factor for this particular duo. The reason for this is because he is a more rational thinker which is what leads him and his brother to victory- for example: at times Hyuga can’t help but attack on his own but Hikaru is the one who primarily encourages Hyuga to work with him which has rocketed their performance in the tournament as it makes them organized and powerful. Like Hyuga he has flare and it seems to have risen to a level closer to Hyuga’s since the tournament started. He also used a limit break and special move combination when fighting Silas which would definitely give him some individual credit but he still needed Hyuga’s help and only managed to draw with Silas so it’s only somewhat impressive. Hikaru always seems to use his limit break in more creative ways than Hyuga, yet another reason to put him above his brother.
3: Hyuga: Hyuga is an absolute beast of an opponent his utilization of flare instantly gives him a boost over the competition. His raw power and resonance are a bit better than Hikaru’s but I feel like he lacks in intelligence which sets him below Hikaru but doesn’t change the fact that he is tough. He and Hikaru may have had the easiest loss to Lane and Shu but everyone loses to those two anyways so the way I see it, it’s not that big of a deal. After they got annihilated by Valt and Rantaro they fortunately seemed to perform far better. They crushed Aiga and Ranjiro with ease and their battle with Lui and Drum ended with the two getting their beys burst in the face of Hyuga and Hikaru. Even Wakiya couldn’t stand up against the move and ended up losing. Their flare combined with their creative usage of limit break power has made them deadly but their usage of the ultimate tag move “twin strike” is what truly sets them apart from the rest. That’s not all either, he improvised in spot and came up with the twin impact break, which allowed them to beat a Valt and Rantaro. Another twin move only lightens my image even further. Despite this, I still feel like he belongs below Hikaru.
4: Valt: Now Valt is in interesting case here. He’s is a fair bit higher than Rantaro simply because he always puts up an intense fight. Even when Rantaro was getting knocked around Valt was there to take on the challenge and Lui and Drum have to really drop in some intense effort to beat him and even the Hyper Tornado/Infinite Buster combination was only enough to knock him out. He also seems to have come up with synchro lightning so there’s that. His record in the tournament is also something I factor in which is why I put him above Lui and Wakiya, even though they (Lui and Drum) win their next match, Valt and Rantaro have still taken on Hyuga and Hikaru and won which gives him an edge over Lui and Drum. Additionally he really seemed to be able to come up with innovative strategy’s such as as storm plate barrage on Dragon and the waste of Hyuga and Hikaru’s limit break abilities (when he sent them flying into one another). He used the Mach tornado + Valkyrie combination with Rantaro (although he didn’t come up with this one) and he also outlasted Hyuga in a tag vs tag battle (Hikaru surviving was the reason why they won). He eliminated Lane and is the only one to have done it so far (albeit with Rantaro’s help), and he also best Shu by a second. This time around I moved Valt above Shu mainly because of the beating Lane feat.
5: Shu: I would put Shu and Valt on equal footing but his record with Lane has influenced this decision alongside his immense intelligence. Although Shu hasn’t done much, his strategies and intellectual decisions have proven to be the greatest of all in this tournament even if they aren’t absolutely necessary, such as his world slash and limit break slam combination with Lane or his limit break activation (which evidently wasn’t necessary but still made things easier), he was additionally the first blader to effectively utilize the storm plate and he seems to have mastered it. He also eliminated Free but seeing as Free has been getting tossed throughout this tournament, it doesn’t seem like that big of a deal. You may think that Shu being above Valt is weird but Shu tanked Synchro lightning and survived with almost no strain this makes him the only person to have successfully tanked a tag move on his own, arguably the best enduring feat in the tournament.
6: Lui: Like Drum, Lui has been absolutely dominating his opponents whether he wins or loses and he really has to be drawn out to be defeated. His raw power has been unrivalled and many beys such as Ragnaruk, Spriggan and Valkyrie have been sent flying back when they tried head on contact at the start of the battle. Apart from this, he seems to be the mastermind and brains behind his duo and he is responsible for all the teams powerful strategies and techniques which has proven him as a formidable opponent. Based on the next episode, he is also going to either create, or mutually invent the powerful friendship boosted Raging Tempest with Drum.
7: Wakiya: Now some people may not like me putting him this high or rather this low but I think it’s perfect. We have to understand that although Wakiya was able to continuously dominate multiple legends as well as Hyuga and Hikaru with his overwhelming defensive capabilities and counter techniques this was also his introduction episode hence, why I am not taking these particular feats with as much regard which is why he is as low as he is (plus one of his opponents was Aiga who is absolutely lacking). Now the one thing that really convinced me that this guy was the real deal was that, when he did lose, he lost by a simple over finish to TWIN STRIKE which is pretty much an insta kill against most tags in this tournament. Wakiya has come a long way and we can see that.
8: Rantaro: Was a tough decision between Rantaro and Aiga but since Rantaro played a major part in both of his wins, I’ll put him above Aiga. Rantaro may have one of the better records in this tournament, I’ll give him that. But one thing we have to take into consideration is the fact that when he loses, he loses badly. Aiga and Ranjiro made him look like a joke and Lui and Drum were dominating him throughout that one sided battle. Still, the record still stands and he has fought nicely even managing to beat Hikaru who is one of the best bladers in this tournament. Him and Valt also managed to tie with Hyuga and Hikaru at full power which is a pretty good feat. He invented Mach Tornado, a move that is easily one of the most powerful in the entire tournament and also synergized with Valkyrie to create a double move as well (and one far more powerful than synchro lightning at that). When he used this move with Valt, they actually both managed to burst after Hyuga (who was also using a limit break tag move) and only lost because Hikaru survived. Him and Valt were able to come up with a strategy that actually helped them defeat Lane, this makes them the first group to do it. Valt is a fair bit higher then Rantaro seeing as he actually puts up better fights. I’m not sure about Rantaro being above Drum but I’ll let y’all tell me what you think.
9: Drum: Now Drum is a very interesting one. He and Lui may have one of the lower ended records but they are going to win their next battle anyways so I’ll count it based on what we know. Throughout the tournament Drum has always put up an intense fight regardless of if he won the battle or not and his performance was insane. He was additionally able to access a powerful rainbow aura which should count for something.
10: Ranjiro: Okay so Ranjiro is where the bladers start to get a bit better. He actually puts a good amount of efforts into his battles and was responsible for beating Silas who himself kept going with Ranjiro till the end. He was responsible for their first win and shared equal responsibility with Aiga during their second. The Hyper Tornado Achilles strategy seemed to be his own which would also give him so more credibility. Lastly, in the fight with Lane he seemed to do more then Aiga and even saved him from limit break the end which is nice. He’s above Rantaro because he can actually take a loss while putting up a good fight. Yes, Lui eliminated him but he was out of Stamina and got forcibly flung into Longinus in a completely unfair situation due to hyper tornado holding out to long so I won’t hold it against him. Btw, Rantaro pulled himself together and because of that I moved Ranjiro below him.
11: Aiga: I think this one is fairly simple. Aiga hasn’t really done much apart from his performance in the latest episode. It doesn’t seem like he puts up as much of a fight as Ranjiro. His performance in the latest episode is what saved him from being at the dead bottom of this list since him and Ranjiro completely destroyed Valt and Rantaro when they used their double attack. He tied with Drum in a battle of double moves but he missed the first attack which caused his team to lose the battle (although I don’t blame Aiga for this, it’s more like competence of Drum and Aiga), so I think that episode doesn’t effect this.
12: Silas: This is a very similar case to Free, the reason why he is higher is because he took on Lucifer the End on his own and only lost by a spin finish AFTER Shu (a blader who is obviously weaker than Lane) eliminated him Free first, which is pretty crazy. He also knocked both Fafnir and Longinus out so I will give him a slight edge for that one. He also managed to Draw with Hikaru even after getting hit by a limit break + special move combination and 2v1 while Free was simply knocked out by Hyuga which is pretty crazy in his part. I feel like the latest episode really solidifies his placement over Free. Another thing I’ve been thinking about, although Silas has one of the worst records in the tournament, I still feel like he puts up better fights than Aiga. Should he be placed above?
13: Free: Him and Silas have one of the worst records in the tournament. Their battles are always short and concise and they’re only notable battle was the one they had with Lui and Drum where I would say they did equal work, maybe Silas a slight bit more since he knocked both beys out. In the lastest episode Hyuga easily eliminated Free simply by using limit break burn which just makes things even worse for him especially since the battle was mostly one sided with the bros constant keeping Free and Silas on their backs. Generally Free has been getting knocked out quite fast and early or too easily throughout his battles in the tournament and it just makes him look like a glass cannon.
Thoughts?
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sounds about right i agree with the ranking with the reason as well
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Vtryuga - Mar. 17, 2021
To be honest as a person who likes free; seeing him go down without a fight in the league really pains me. But from an objective standpoint you are absolutely correct in your ranking of the legend bladers. One thing i would like to point out however is that we have recently seen shu knocking out lucifer; valkryie knocking out lucifer and lean becoming more and more flustered. This leads me to believe that the legends are getting used to the way lean fights and will definitely get stronger and likely surpass him in more time. Zeutron
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - 6Jupiter5 - Mar. 17, 2021
(Mar. 17, 2021 3:12 AM)Zeutron Wrote: My updated tag league ranking. This is basically the last one since the final battle really won’t change anything.
1: Lane: Do I even need to explain this? His Flare and resonance are beyond anything exhibited in the history of burst. He has taken on and annihilated the strongest most experienced bladers in burst history throughout this tournament as well as Hyuga and Hikaru. Truth be told his record is extremely impressive and he doesn’t even really need Shu to succeed. Lane has even shown the capability to take on multiple bladers on level ground and still stomp them on his very own. Lane is arguably not only the best blader in this tournament but the best in burst as a whole. It even seems like Hyuga and Hikaru will have to 2v1 him to beat him in the final episode (although I could be wrong)
2: Hikaru is more or less the same as Hyuga but he is smarter which I feel is a big factor for this particular duo. The reason for this is because he is a more rational thinker which is what leads him and his brother to victory- for example: at times Hyuga can’t help but attack on his own but Hikaru is the one who primarily encourages Hyuga to work with him which has rocketed their performance in the tournament as it makes them organized and powerful. Like Hyuga he has flare and it seems to have risen to a level closer to Hyuga’s since the tournament started. He also used a limit break and special move combination when fighting Silas which would definitely give him some individual credit but he still needed Hyuga’s help and only managed to draw with Silas so it’s only somewhat impressive. Hikaru always seems to use his limit break in more creative ways than Hyuga, yet another reason to put him above his brother.
3: Hyuga: Hyuga is an absolute beast of an opponent his utilization of flare instantly gives him a boost over the competition. His raw power and resonance are a bit better than Hikaru’s but I feel like he lacks in intelligence which sets him below Hikaru but doesn’t change the fact that he is tough. He and Hikaru may have had the easiest loss to Lane and Shu but everyone loses to those two anyways so the way I see it, it’s not that big of a deal. After they got annihilated by Valt and Rantaro they fortunately seemed to perform far better. They crushed Aiga and Ranjiro with ease and their battle with Lui and Drum ended with the two getting their beys burst in the face of Hyuga and Hikaru. Even Wakiya couldn’t stand up against the move and ended up losing. Their flare combined with their creative usage of limit break power has made them deadly but their usage of the ultimate tag move “twin strike” is what truly sets them apart from the rest. That’s not all either, he improvised in spot and came up with the twin impact break, which allowed them to beat a Valt and Rantaro. Another twin move only lightens my image even further. Despite this, I still feel like he belongs below Hikaru.
4: Valt: Now Valt is in interesting case here. He’s is a fair bit higher than Rantaro simply because he always puts up an intense fight. Even when Rantaro was getting knocked around Valt was there to take on the challenge and Lui and Drum have to really drop in some intense effort to beat him and even the Hyper Tornado/Infinite Buster combination was only enough to knock him out. He also seems to have come up with synchro lightning so there’s that. His record in the tournament is also something I factor in which is why I put him above Lui and Wakiya, even though they (Lui and Drum) win their next match, Valt and Rantaro have still taken on Hyuga and Hikaru and won which gives him an edge over Lui and Drum. Additionally he really seemed to be able to come up with innovative strategy’s such as as storm plate barrage on Dragon and the waste of Hyuga and Hikaru’s limit break abilities (when he sent them flying into one another). He used the Mach tornado + Valkyrie combination with Rantaro (although he didn’t come up with this one) and he also outlasted Hyuga in a tag vs tag battle (Hikaru surviving was the reason why they won). He eliminated Lane and is the only one to have done it so far (albeit with Rantaro’s help), and he also best Shu by a second. This time around I moved Valt above Shu mainly because of the beating Lane feat.
5: Shu: I would put Shu and Valt on equal footing but his record with Lane has influenced this decision alongside his immense intelligence. Although Shu hasn’t done much, his strategies and intellectual decisions have proven to be the greatest of all in this tournament even if they aren’t absolutely necessary, such as his world slash and limit break slam combination with Lane or his limit break activation (which evidently wasn’t necessary but still made things easier), he was additionally the first blader to effectively utilize the storm plate and he seems to have mastered it. He also eliminated Free but seeing as Free has been getting tossed throughout this tournament, it doesn’t seem like that big of a deal. You may think that Shu being above Valt is weird but Shu tanked Synchro lightning and survived with almost no strain this makes him the only person to have successfully tanked a tag move on his own, arguably the best enduring feat in the tournament.
6: Lui: Like Drum, Lui has been absolutely dominating his opponents whether he wins or loses and he really has to be drawn out to be defeated. His raw power has been unrivalled and many beys such as Ragnaruk, Spriggan and Valkyrie have been sent flying back when they tried head on contact at the start of the battle. Apart from this, he seems to be the mastermind and brains behind his duo and he is responsible for all the teams powerful strategies and techniques which has proven him as a formidable opponent. Based on the next episode, he is also going to either create, or mutually invent the powerful friendship boosted Raging Tempest with Drum.
7: Wakiya: Now some people may not like me putting him this high or rather this low but I think it’s perfect. We have to understand that although Wakiya was able to continuously dominate multiple legends as well as Hyuga and Hikaru with his overwhelming defensive capabilities and counter techniques this was also his introduction episode hence, why I am not taking these particular feats with as much regard which is why he is as low as he is (plus one of his opponents was Aiga who is absolutely lacking). Now the one thing that really convinced me that this guy was the real deal was that, when he did lose, he lost by a simple over finish to TWIN STRIKE which is pretty much an insta kill against most tags in this tournament. Wakiya has come a long way and we can see that.
8: Rantaro: Was a tough decision between Rantaro and Aiga but since Rantaro played a major part in both of his wins, I’ll put him above Aiga. Rantaro may have one of the better records in this tournament, I’ll give him that. But one thing we have to take into consideration is the fact that when he loses, he loses badly. Aiga and Ranjiro made him look like a joke and Lui and Drum were dominating him throughout that one sided battle. Still, the record still stands and he has fought nicely even managing to beat Hikaru who is one of the best bladers in this tournament. Him and Valt also managed to tie with Hyuga and Hikaru at full power which is a pretty good feat. He invented Mach Tornado, a move that is easily one of the most powerful in the entire tournament and also synergized with Valkyrie to create a double move as well (and one far more powerful than synchro lightning at that). When he used this move with Valt, they actually both managed to burst after Hyuga (who was also using a limit break tag move) and only lost because Hikaru survived. Him and Valt were able to come up with a strategy that actually helped them defeat Lane, this makes them the first group to do it. Valt is a fair bit higher then Rantaro seeing as he actually puts up better fights. I’m not sure about Rantaro being above Drum but I’ll let y’all tell me what you think.
9: Drum: Now Drum is a very interesting one. He and Lui may have one of the lower ended records but they are going to win their next battle anyways so I’ll count it based on what we know. Throughout the tournament Drum has always put up an intense fight regardless of if he won the battle or not and his performance was insane. He was additionally able to access a powerful rainbow aura which should count for something.
10: Ranjiro: Okay so Ranjiro is where the bladers start to get a bit better. He actually puts a good amount of efforts into his battles and was responsible for beating Silas who himself kept going with Ranjiro till the end. He was responsible for their first win and shared equal responsibility with Aiga during their second. The Hyper Tornado Achilles strategy seemed to be his own which would also give him so more credibility. Lastly, in the fight with Lane he seemed to do more then Aiga and even saved him from limit break the end which is nice. He’s above Rantaro because he can actually take a loss while putting up a good fight. Yes, Lui eliminated him but he was out of Stamina and got forcibly flung into Longinus in a completely unfair situation due to hyper tornado holding out to long so I won’t hold it against him. Btw, Rantaro pulled himself together and because of that I moved Ranjiro below him.
11: Aiga: I think this one is fairly simple. Aiga hasn’t really done much apart from his performance in the latest episode. It doesn’t seem like he puts up as much of a fight as Ranjiro. His performance in the latest episode is what saved him from being at the dead bottom of this list since him and Ranjiro completely destroyed Valt and Rantaro when they used their double attack. He tied with Drum in a battle of double moves but he missed the first attack which caused his team to lose the battle (although I don’t blame Aiga for this, it’s more like competence of Drum and Aiga), so I think that episode doesn’t effect this.
12: Silas: This is a very similar case to Free, the reason why he is higher is because he took on Lucifer the End on his own and only lost by a spin finish AFTER Shu (a blader who is obviously weaker than Lane) eliminated him Free first, which is pretty crazy. He also knocked both Fafnir and Longinus out so I will give him a slight edge for that one. He also managed to Draw with Hikaru even after getting hit by a limit break + special move combination and 2v1 while Free was simply knocked out by Hyuga which is pretty crazy in his part. I feel like the latest episode really solidifies his placement over Free. Another thing I’ve been thinking about, although Silas has one of the worst records in the tournament, I still feel like he puts up better fights than Aiga. Should he be placed above?
13: Free: Him and Silas have one of the worst records in the tournament. Their battles are always short and concise and they’re only notable battle was the one they had with Lui and Drum where I would say they did equal work, maybe Silas a slight bit more since he knocked both beys out. In the lastest episode Hyuga easily eliminated Free simply by using limit break burn which just makes things even worse for him especially since the battle was mostly one sided with the bros constant keeping Free and Silas on their backs. Generally Free has been getting knocked out quite fast and early or too easily throughout his battles in the tournament and it just makes him look like a glass cannon.
Thoughts?
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Power wise there’s definitely some inconsistencies, but as of now Lane, H+H definitely top 4. Here’s howI would do it however
1. Lane- nothing to say here
2. Hikaru- just not as strong as Lane yet
3. Shu- I place Shu over Hyuga because Shu has much more strategy than Hyuga and much more versatility. He doesn’t do much, but when he does it’s always bringing in the W
4. Hyuga- just doesn’t think things through, but like Lane he’s an absolute tank
5.Valt/Aiga: Aiga is up here because he’s like Shu, he helps to take in the victory and covers that extra power that Ranjiro lacks and Valt is pretty strong which makes up for his lack of strategy
6. Drum (awakened)- he’s still developing
7. Lui/Ranjiro: Enablers do tend to do more work, but they are lacking in power hence why Lui and Ranjiro are here
8. Free/Sisco: banding these two because they do work pretty well together and have pulled off some good dubs
9. Rantaro: he just doesn’t seem that competitive compared to the rest
10. Drum (unawakened): basically useless.
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Zeutron - Mar. 17, 2021
(Mar. 17, 2021 4:01 AM)Vtryuga Wrote: To be honest as a person who likes free; seeing him go down without a fight in the league really pains me. But from an objective standpoint you are absolutely correct in your ranking of the legend bladers. One thing i would like to point out however is that we have recently seen shu knocking out lucifer; valkryie knocking out lucifer and lean becoming more and more flustered. This leads me to believe that the legends are getting used to the way lean fights and will definitely get stronger and likely surpass him in more time. Zeutron
Ahh yes, that’s a good point. Shu did in fact knock Lucifer out of the stadium. The thing is, it was a very casual practice battle between him and Shu and because of that, I don’t quite hold it in very high regard. The point still stands though, people are definitely catching up.
(Mar. 17, 2021 4:07 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: (Mar. 17, 2021 3:12 AM)Zeutron Wrote: My updated tag league ranking. This is basically the last one since the final battle really won’t change anything.
1: Lane: Do I even need to explain this? His Flare and resonance are beyond anything exhibited in the history of burst. He has taken on and annihilated the strongest most experienced bladers in burst history throughout this tournament as well as Hyuga and Hikaru. Truth be told his record is extremely impressive and he doesn’t even really need Shu to succeed. Lane has even shown the capability to take on multiple bladers on level ground and still stomp them on his very own. Lane is arguably not only the best blader in this tournament but the best in burst as a whole. It even seems like Hyuga and Hikaru will have to 2v1 him to beat him in the final episode (although I could be wrong)
2: Hikaru is more or less the same as Hyuga but he is smarter which I feel is a big factor for this particular duo. The reason for this is because he is a more rational thinker which is what leads him and his brother to victory- for example: at times Hyuga can’t help but attack on his own but Hikaru is the one who primarily encourages Hyuga to work with him which has rocketed their performance in the tournament as it makes them organized and powerful. Like Hyuga he has flare and it seems to have risen to a level closer to Hyuga’s since the tournament started. He also used a limit break and special move combination when fighting Silas which would definitely give him some individual credit but he still needed Hyuga’s help and only managed to draw with Silas so it’s only somewhat impressive. Hikaru always seems to use his limit break in more creative ways than Hyuga, yet another reason to put him above his brother.
3: Hyuga: Hyuga is an absolute beast of an opponent his utilization of flare instantly gives him a boost over the competition. His raw power and resonance are a bit better than Hikaru’s but I feel like he lacks in intelligence which sets him below Hikaru but doesn’t change the fact that he is tough. He and Hikaru may have had the easiest loss to Lane and Shu but everyone loses to those two anyways so the way I see it, it’s not that big of a deal. After they got annihilated by Valt and Rantaro they fortunately seemed to perform far better. They crushed Aiga and Ranjiro with ease and their battle with Lui and Drum ended with the two getting their beys burst in the face of Hyuga and Hikaru. Even Wakiya couldn’t stand up against the move and ended up losing. Their flare combined with their creative usage of limit break power has made them deadly but their usage of the ultimate tag move “twin strike” is what truly sets them apart from the rest. That’s not all either, he improvised in spot and came up with the twin impact break, which allowed them to beat a Valt and Rantaro. Another twin move only lightens my image even further. Despite this, I still feel like he belongs below Hikaru.
4: Valt: Now Valt is in interesting case here. He’s is a fair bit higher than Rantaro simply because he always puts up an intense fight. Even when Rantaro was getting knocked around Valt was there to take on the challenge and Lui and Drum have to really drop in some intense effort to beat him and even the Hyper Tornado/Infinite Buster combination was only enough to knock him out. He also seems to have come up with synchro lightning so there’s that. His record in the tournament is also something I factor in which is why I put him above Lui and Wakiya, even though they (Lui and Drum) win their next match, Valt and Rantaro have still taken on Hyuga and Hikaru and won which gives him an edge over Lui and Drum. Additionally he really seemed to be able to come up with innovative strategy’s such as as storm plate barrage on Dragon and the waste of Hyuga and Hikaru’s limit break abilities (when he sent them flying into one another). He used the Mach tornado + Valkyrie combination with Rantaro (although he didn’t come up with this one) and he also outlasted Hyuga in a tag vs tag battle (Hikaru surviving was the reason why they won). He eliminated Lane and is the only one to have done it so far (albeit with Rantaro’s help), and he also best Shu by a second. This time around I moved Valt above Shu mainly because of the beating Lane feat.
5: Shu: I would put Shu and Valt on equal footing but his record with Lane has influenced this decision alongside his immense intelligence. Although Shu hasn’t done much, his strategies and intellectual decisions have proven to be the greatest of all in this tournament even if they aren’t absolutely necessary, such as his world slash and limit break slam combination with Lane or his limit break activation (which evidently wasn’t necessary but still made things easier), he was additionally the first blader to effectively utilize the storm plate and he seems to have mastered it. He also eliminated Free but seeing as Free has been getting tossed throughout this tournament, it doesn’t seem like that big of a deal. You may think that Shu being above Valt is weird but Shu tanked Synchro lightning and survived with almost no strain this makes him the only person to have successfully tanked a tag move on his own, arguably the best enduring feat in the tournament.
6: Lui: Like Drum, Lui has been absolutely dominating his opponents whether he wins or loses and he really has to be drawn out to be defeated. His raw power has been unrivalled and many beys such as Ragnaruk, Spriggan and Valkyrie have been sent flying back when they tried head on contact at the start of the battle. Apart from this, he seems to be the mastermind and brains behind his duo and he is responsible for all the teams powerful strategies and techniques which has proven him as a formidable opponent. Based on the next episode, he is also going to either create, or mutually invent the powerful friendship boosted Raging Tempest with Drum.
7: Wakiya: Now some people may not like me putting him this high or rather this low but I think it’s perfect. We have to understand that although Wakiya was able to continuously dominate multiple legends as well as Hyuga and Hikaru with his overwhelming defensive capabilities and counter techniques this was also his introduction episode hence, why I am not taking these particular feats with as much regard which is why he is as low as he is (plus one of his opponents was Aiga who is absolutely lacking). Now the one thing that really convinced me that this guy was the real deal was that, when he did lose, he lost by a simple over finish to TWIN STRIKE which is pretty much an insta kill against most tags in this tournament. Wakiya has come a long way and we can see that.
8: Rantaro: Was a tough decision between Rantaro and Aiga but since Rantaro played a major part in both of his wins, I’ll put him above Aiga. Rantaro may have one of the better records in this tournament, I’ll give him that. But one thing we have to take into consideration is the fact that when he loses, he loses badly. Aiga and Ranjiro made him look like a joke and Lui and Drum were dominating him throughout that one sided battle. Still, the record still stands and he has fought nicely even managing to beat Hikaru who is one of the best bladers in this tournament. Him and Valt also managed to tie with Hyuga and Hikaru at full power which is a pretty good feat. He invented Mach Tornado, a move that is easily one of the most powerful in the entire tournament and also synergized with Valkyrie to create a double move as well (and one far more powerful than synchro lightning at that). When he used this move with Valt, they actually both managed to burst after Hyuga (who was also using a limit break tag move) and only lost because Hikaru survived. Him and Valt were able to come up with a strategy that actually helped them defeat Lane, this makes them the first group to do it. Valt is a fair bit higher then Rantaro seeing as he actually puts up better fights. I’m not sure about Rantaro being above Drum but I’ll let y’all tell me what you think.
9: Drum: Now Drum is a very interesting one. He and Lui may have one of the lower ended records but they are going to win their next battle anyways so I’ll count it based on what we know. Throughout the tournament Drum has always put up an intense fight regardless of if he won the battle or not and his performance was insane. He was additionally able to access a powerful rainbow aura which should count for something.
10: Ranjiro: Okay so Ranjiro is where the bladers start to get a bit better. He actually puts a good amount of efforts into his battles and was responsible for beating Silas who himself kept going with Ranjiro till the end. He was responsible for their first win and shared equal responsibility with Aiga during their second. The Hyper Tornado Achilles strategy seemed to be his own which would also give him so more credibility. Lastly, in the fight with Lane he seemed to do more then Aiga and even saved him from limit break the end which is nice. He’s above Rantaro because he can actually take a loss while putting up a good fight. Yes, Lui eliminated him but he was out of Stamina and got forcibly flung into Longinus in a completely unfair situation due to hyper tornado holding out to long so I won’t hold it against him. Btw, Rantaro pulled himself together and because of that I moved Ranjiro below him.
11: Aiga: I think this one is fairly simple. Aiga hasn’t really done much apart from his performance in the latest episode. It doesn’t seem like he puts up as much of a fight as Ranjiro. His performance in the latest episode is what saved him from being at the dead bottom of this list since him and Ranjiro completely destroyed Valt and Rantaro when they used their double attack. He tied with Drum in a battle of double moves but he missed the first attack which caused his team to lose the battle (although I don’t blame Aiga for this, it’s more like competence of Drum and Aiga), so I think that episode doesn’t effect this.
12: Silas: This is a very similar case to Free, the reason why he is higher is because he took on Lucifer the End on his own and only lost by a spin finish AFTER Shu (a blader who is obviously weaker than Lane) eliminated him Free first, which is pretty crazy. He also knocked both Fafnir and Longinus out so I will give him a slight edge for that one. He also managed to Draw with Hikaru even after getting hit by a limit break + special move combination and 2v1 while Free was simply knocked out by Hyuga which is pretty crazy in his part. I feel like the latest episode really solidifies his placement over Free. Another thing I’ve been thinking about, although Silas has one of the worst records in the tournament, I still feel like he puts up better fights than Aiga. Should he be placed above?
13: Free: Him and Silas have one of the worst records in the tournament. Their battles are always short and concise and they’re only notable battle was the one they had with Lui and Drum where I would say they did equal work, maybe Silas a slight bit more since he knocked both beys out. In the lastest episode Hyuga easily eliminated Free simply by using limit break burn which just makes things even worse for him especially since the battle was mostly one sided with the bros constant keeping Free and Silas on their backs. Generally Free has been getting knocked out quite fast and early or too easily throughout his battles in the tournament and it just makes him look like a glass cannon.
Thoughts?
Power wise there’s definitely some inconsistencies, but as of now Lane, H+H definitely top 3. Here’s howI would do it however
1. Lane- nothing to say here
2. Hikaru- just not as strong as Lane yet
3. Shu- I place Shu over Hyuga because Shu has much more strategy than Hyuga and much more versatility. He doesn’t do much, but when he does it’s always bringing in the W
4. Hyuga- just doesn’t think things through, but like Lane he’s an absolute tank
5. Drum (awakened)/Aiga: Aiga is up here because he’s like Shu, he helps to take in the victory and covers that extra power that Ranjiro lacks same with Drum
6. Valt- although he did beat Lane, I’m placing him below Aiga and Drum because he just feels like he’s reached his limit unlike the other 2 who still have potential
7. Lui/Ranjiro: Enablers do tend to do more work, but they are lacking in power hence why Lui and Ranjiro are here
8. Free/Sisco: banding these two because they do work pretty well together and have pulled off some good dubs
9. Rantaro: he just doesn’t seem that competitive compared to the rest
10. Drum (unawakened): basically useless.
Your point of view/list is very interesting too! I like it.
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Needforspeed - Mar. 17, 2021
(Mar. 17, 2021 3:12 AM)Zeutron Wrote: My updated tag league ranking. This is basically the last one since the final battle really won’t change anything.
1: Lane: Do I even need to explain this? His Flare and resonance are beyond anything exhibited in the history of burst. He has taken on and annihilated the strongest most experienced bladers in burst history throughout this tournament as well as Hyuga and Hikaru. Truth be told his record is extremely impressive and he doesn’t even really need Shu to succeed. Lane has even shown the capability to take on multiple bladers on level ground and still stomp them on his very own. Lane is arguably not only the best blader in this tournament but the best in burst as a whole. It even seems like Hyuga and Hikaru will have to 2v1 him to beat him in the final episode (although I could be wrong)
2: Hikaru is more or less the same as Hyuga but he is smarter which I feel is a big factor for this particular duo. The reason for this is because he is a more rational thinker which is what leads him and his brother to victory- for example: at times Hyuga can’t help but attack on his own but Hikaru is the one who primarily encourages Hyuga to work with him which has rocketed their performance in the tournament as it makes them organized and powerful. Like Hyuga he has flare and it seems to have risen to a level closer to Hyuga’s since the tournament started. He also used a limit break and special move combination when fighting Silas which would definitely give him some individual credit but he still needed Hyuga’s help and only managed to draw with Silas so it’s only somewhat impressive. Hikaru always seems to use his limit break in more creative ways than Hyuga, yet another reason to put him above his brother.
3: Hyuga: Hyuga is an absolute beast of an opponent his utilization of flare instantly gives him a boost over the competition. His raw power and resonance are a bit better than Hikaru’s but I feel like he lacks in intelligence which sets him below Hikaru but doesn’t change the fact that he is tough. He and Hikaru may have had the easiest loss to Lane and Shu but everyone loses to those two anyways so the way I see it, it’s not that big of a deal. After they got annihilated by Valt and Rantaro they fortunately seemed to perform far better. They crushed Aiga and Ranjiro with ease and their battle with Lui and Drum ended with the two getting their beys burst in the face of Hyuga and Hikaru. Even Wakiya couldn’t stand up against the move and ended up losing. Their flare combined with their creative usage of limit break power has made them deadly but their usage of the ultimate tag move “twin strike” is what truly sets them apart from the rest. That’s not all either, he improvised in spot and came up with the twin impact break, which allowed them to beat a Valt and Rantaro. Another twin move only lightens my image even further. Despite this, I still feel like he belongs below Hikaru.
4: Valt: Now Valt is in interesting case here. He’s is a fair bit higher than Rantaro simply because he always puts up an intense fight. Even when Rantaro was getting knocked around Valt was there to take on the challenge and Lui and Drum have to really drop in some intense effort to beat him and even the Hyper Tornado/Infinite Buster combination was only enough to knock him out. He also seems to have come up with synchro lightning so there’s that. His record in the tournament is also something I factor in which is why I put him above Lui and Wakiya, even though they (Lui and Drum) win their next match, Valt and Rantaro have still taken on Hyuga and Hikaru and won which gives him an edge over Lui and Drum. Additionally he really seemed to be able to come up with innovative strategy’s such as as storm plate barrage on Dragon and the waste of Hyuga and Hikaru’s limit break abilities (when he sent them flying into one another). He used the Mach tornado + Valkyrie combination with Rantaro (although he didn’t come up with this one) and he also outlasted Hyuga in a tag vs tag battle (Hikaru surviving was the reason why they won). He eliminated Lane and is the only one to have done it so far (albeit with Rantaro’s help), and he also best Shu by a second. This time around I moved Valt above Shu mainly because of the beating Lane feat.
5: Shu: I would put Shu and Valt on equal footing but his record with Lane has influenced this decision alongside his immense intelligence. Although Shu hasn’t done much, his strategies and intellectual decisions have proven to be the greatest of all in this tournament even if they aren’t absolutely necessary, such as his world slash and limit break slam combination with Lane or his limit break activation (which evidently wasn’t necessary but still made things easier), he was additionally the first blader to effectively utilize the storm plate and he seems to have mastered it. He also eliminated Free but seeing as Free has been getting tossed throughout this tournament, it doesn’t seem like that big of a deal. You may think that Shu being above Valt is weird but Shu tanked Synchro lightning and survived with almost no strain this makes him the only person to have successfully tanked a tag move on his own, arguably the best enduring feat in the tournament.
6: Lui: Like Drum, Lui has been absolutely dominating his opponents whether he wins or loses and he really has to be drawn out to be defeated. His raw power has been unrivalled and many beys such as Ragnaruk, Spriggan and Valkyrie have been sent flying back when they tried head on contact at the start of the battle. Apart from this, he seems to be the mastermind and brains behind his duo and he is responsible for all the teams powerful strategies and techniques which has proven him as a formidable opponent. Based on the next episode, he is also going to either create, or mutually invent the powerful friendship boosted Raging Tempest with Drum.
7: Wakiya: Now some people may not like me putting him this high or rather this low but I think it’s perfect. We have to understand that although Wakiya was able to continuously dominate multiple legends as well as Hyuga and Hikaru with his overwhelming defensive capabilities and counter techniques this was also his introduction episode hence, why I am not taking these particular feats with as much regard which is why he is as low as he is (plus one of his opponents was Aiga who is absolutely lacking). Now the one thing that really convinced me that this guy was the real deal was that, when he did lose, he lost by a simple over finish to TWIN STRIKE which is pretty much an insta kill against most tags in this tournament. Wakiya has come a long way and we can see that.
8: Rantaro: Was a tough decision between Rantaro and Aiga but since Rantaro played a major part in both of his wins, I’ll put him above Aiga. Rantaro may have one of the better records in this tournament, I’ll give him that. But one thing we have to take into consideration is the fact that when he loses, he loses badly. Aiga and Ranjiro made him look like a joke and Lui and Drum were dominating him throughout that one sided battle. Still, the record still stands and he has fought nicely even managing to beat Hikaru who is one of the best bladers in this tournament. Him and Valt also managed to tie with Hyuga and Hikaru at full power which is a pretty good feat. He invented Mach Tornado, a move that is easily one of the most powerful in the entire tournament and also synergized with Valkyrie to create a double move as well (and one far more powerful than synchro lightning at that). When he used this move with Valt, they actually both managed to burst after Hyuga (who was also using a limit break tag move) and only lost because Hikaru survived. Him and Valt were able to come up with a strategy that actually helped them defeat Lane, this makes them the first group to do it. Valt is a fair bit higher then Rantaro seeing as he actually puts up better fights. I’m not sure about Rantaro being above Drum but I’ll let y’all tell me what you think.
9: Drum: Now Drum is a very interesting one. He and Lui may have one of the lower ended records but they are going to win their next battle anyways so I’ll count it based on what we know. Throughout the tournament Drum has always put up an intense fight regardless of if he won the battle or not and his performance was insane. He was additionally able to access a powerful rainbow aura which should count for something.
10: Ranjiro: Okay so Ranjiro is where the bladers start to get a bit better. He actually puts a good amount of efforts into his battles and was responsible for beating Silas who himself kept going with Ranjiro till the end. He was responsible for their first win and shared equal responsibility with Aiga during their second. The Hyper Tornado Achilles strategy seemed to be his own which would also give him so more credibility. Lastly, in the fight with Lane he seemed to do more then Aiga and even saved him from limit break the end which is nice. He’s above Rantaro because he can actually take a loss while putting up a good fight. Yes, Lui eliminated him but he was out of Stamina and got forcibly flung into Longinus in a completely unfair situation due to hyper tornado holding out to long so I won’t hold it against him. Btw, Rantaro pulled himself together and because of that I moved Ranjiro below him.
11: Aiga: I think this one is fairly simple. Aiga hasn’t really done much apart from his performance in the latest episode. It doesn’t seem like he puts up as much of a fight as Ranjiro. His performance in the latest episode is what saved him from being at the dead bottom of this list since him and Ranjiro completely destroyed Valt and Rantaro when they used their double attack. He tied with Drum in a battle of double moves but he missed the first attack which caused his team to lose the battle (although I don’t blame Aiga for this, it’s more like competence of Drum and Aiga), so I think that episode doesn’t effect this.
12: Silas: This is a very similar case to Free, the reason why he is higher is because he took on Lucifer the End on his own and only lost by a spin finish AFTER Shu (a blader who is obviously weaker than Lane) eliminated him Free first, which is pretty crazy. He also knocked both Fafnir and Longinus out so I will give him a slight edge for that one. He also managed to Draw with Hikaru even after getting hit by a limit break + special move combination and 2v1 while Free was simply knocked out by Hyuga which is pretty crazy in his part. I feel like the latest episode really solidifies his placement over Free. Another thing I’ve been thinking about, although Silas has one of the worst records in the tournament, I still feel like he puts up better fights than Aiga. Should he be placed above?
13: Free: Him and Silas have one of the worst records in the tournament. Their battles are always short and concise and they’re only notable battle was the one they had with Lui and Drum where I would say they did equal work, maybe Silas a slight bit more since he knocked both beys out. In the lastest episode Hyuga easily eliminated Free simply by using limit break burn which just makes things even worse for him especially since the battle was mostly one sided with the bros constant keeping Free and Silas on their backs. Generally Free has been getting knocked out quite fast and early or too easily throughout his battles in the tournament and it just makes him look like a glass cannon. Im pretty sure XsabmaniacX doesn't watch Sparking.
But anyways I don't think we should rank Wakiya since his contribution to the series was only at ep 44 and that was a promotional episode so it's kinda hard to say which place he would fit.
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Zeutron - Mar. 17, 2021
(Mar. 17, 2021 4:17 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: (Mar. 17, 2021 3:12 AM)Zeutron Wrote: My updated tag league ranking. This is basically the last one since the final battle really won’t change anything.
1: Lane: Do I even need to explain this? His Flare and resonance are beyond anything exhibited in the history of burst. He has taken on and annihilated the strongest most experienced bladers in burst history throughout this tournament as well as Hyuga and Hikaru. Truth be told his record is extremely impressive and he doesn’t even really need Shu to succeed. Lane has even shown the capability to take on multiple bladers on level ground and still stomp them on his very own. Lane is arguably not only the best blader in this tournament but the best in burst as a whole. It even seems like Hyuga and Hikaru will have to 2v1 him to beat him in the final episode (although I could be wrong)
2: Hikaru is more or less the same as Hyuga but he is smarter which I feel is a big factor for this particular duo. The reason for this is because he is a more rational thinker which is what leads him and his brother to victory- for example: at times Hyuga can’t help but attack on his own but Hikaru is the one who primarily encourages Hyuga to work with him which has rocketed their performance in the tournament as it makes them organized and powerful. Like Hyuga he has flare and it seems to have risen to a level closer to Hyuga’s since the tournament started. He also used a limit break and special move combination when fighting Silas which would definitely give him some individual credit but he still needed Hyuga’s help and only managed to draw with Silas so it’s only somewhat impressive. Hikaru always seems to use his limit break in more creative ways than Hyuga, yet another reason to put him above his brother.
3: Hyuga: Hyuga is an absolute beast of an opponent his utilization of flare instantly gives him a boost over the competition. His raw power and resonance are a bit better than Hikaru’s but I feel like he lacks in intelligence which sets him below Hikaru but doesn’t change the fact that he is tough. He and Hikaru may have had the easiest loss to Lane and Shu but everyone loses to those two anyways so the way I see it, it’s not that big of a deal. After they got annihilated by Valt and Rantaro they fortunately seemed to perform far better. They crushed Aiga and Ranjiro with ease and their battle with Lui and Drum ended with the two getting their beys burst in the face of Hyuga and Hikaru. Even Wakiya couldn’t stand up against the move and ended up losing. Their flare combined with their creative usage of limit break power has made them deadly but their usage of the ultimate tag move “twin strike” is what truly sets them apart from the rest. That’s not all either, he improvised in spot and came up with the twin impact break, which allowed them to beat a Valt and Rantaro. Another twin move only lightens my image even further. Despite this, I still feel like he belongs below Hikaru.
4: Valt: Now Valt is in interesting case here. He’s is a fair bit higher than Rantaro simply because he always puts up an intense fight. Even when Rantaro was getting knocked around Valt was there to take on the challenge and Lui and Drum have to really drop in some intense effort to beat him and even the Hyper Tornado/Infinite Buster combination was only enough to knock him out. He also seems to have come up with synchro lightning so there’s that. His record in the tournament is also something I factor in which is why I put him above Lui and Wakiya, even though they (Lui and Drum) win their next match, Valt and Rantaro have still taken on Hyuga and Hikaru and won which gives him an edge over Lui and Drum. Additionally he really seemed to be able to come up with innovative strategy’s such as as storm plate barrage on Dragon and the waste of Hyuga and Hikaru’s limit break abilities (when he sent them flying into one another). He used the Mach tornado + Valkyrie combination with Rantaro (although he didn’t come up with this one) and he also outlasted Hyuga in a tag vs tag battle (Hikaru surviving was the reason why they won). He eliminated Lane and is the only one to have done it so far (albeit with Rantaro’s help), and he also best Shu by a second. This time around I moved Valt above Shu mainly because of the beating Lane feat.
5: Shu: I would put Shu and Valt on equal footing but his record with Lane has influenced this decision alongside his immense intelligence. Although Shu hasn’t done much, his strategies and intellectual decisions have proven to be the greatest of all in this tournament even if they aren’t absolutely necessary, such as his world slash and limit break slam combination with Lane or his limit break activation (which evidently wasn’t necessary but still made things easier), he was additionally the first blader to effectively utilize the storm plate and he seems to have mastered it. He also eliminated Free but seeing as Free has been getting tossed throughout this tournament, it doesn’t seem like that big of a deal. You may think that Shu being above Valt is weird but Shu tanked Synchro lightning and survived with almost no strain this makes him the only person to have successfully tanked a tag move on his own, arguably the best enduring feat in the tournament.
6: Lui: Like Drum, Lui has been absolutely dominating his opponents whether he wins or loses and he really has to be drawn out to be defeated. His raw power has been unrivalled and many beys such as Ragnaruk, Spriggan and Valkyrie have been sent flying back when they tried head on contact at the start of the battle. Apart from this, he seems to be the mastermind and brains behind his duo and he is responsible for all the teams powerful strategies and techniques which has proven him as a formidable opponent. Based on the next episode, he is also going to either create, or mutually invent the powerful friendship boosted Raging Tempest with Drum.
7: Wakiya: Now some people may not like me putting him this high or rather this low but I think it’s perfect. We have to understand that although Wakiya was able to continuously dominate multiple legends as well as Hyuga and Hikaru with his overwhelming defensive capabilities and counter techniques this was also his introduction episode hence, why I am not taking these particular feats with as much regard which is why he is as low as he is (plus one of his opponents was Aiga who is absolutely lacking). Now the one thing that really convinced me that this guy was the real deal was that, when he did lose, he lost by a simple over finish to TWIN STRIKE which is pretty much an insta kill against most tags in this tournament. Wakiya has come a long way and we can see that.
8: Rantaro: Was a tough decision between Rantaro and Aiga but since Rantaro played a major part in both of his wins, I’ll put him above Aiga. Rantaro may have one of the better records in this tournament, I’ll give him that. But one thing we have to take into consideration is the fact that when he loses, he loses badly. Aiga and Ranjiro made him look like a joke and Lui and Drum were dominating him throughout that one sided battle. Still, the record still stands and he has fought nicely even managing to beat Hikaru who is one of the best bladers in this tournament. Him and Valt also managed to tie with Hyuga and Hikaru at full power which is a pretty good feat. He invented Mach Tornado, a move that is easily one of the most powerful in the entire tournament and also synergized with Valkyrie to create a double move as well (and one far more powerful than synchro lightning at that). When he used this move with Valt, they actually both managed to burst after Hyuga (who was also using a limit break tag move) and only lost because Hikaru survived. Him and Valt were able to come up with a strategy that actually helped them defeat Lane, this makes them the first group to do it. Valt is a fair bit higher then Rantaro seeing as he actually puts up better fights. I’m not sure about Rantaro being above Drum but I’ll let y’all tell me what you think.
9: Drum: Now Drum is a very interesting one. He and Lui may have one of the lower ended records but they are going to win their next battle anyways so I’ll count it based on what we know. Throughout the tournament Drum has always put up an intense fight regardless of if he won the battle or not and his performance was insane. He was additionally able to access a powerful rainbow aura which should count for something.
10: Ranjiro: Okay so Ranjiro is where the bladers start to get a bit better. He actually puts a good amount of efforts into his battles and was responsible for beating Silas who himself kept going with Ranjiro till the end. He was responsible for their first win and shared equal responsibility with Aiga during their second. The Hyper Tornado Achilles strategy seemed to be his own which would also give him so more credibility. Lastly, in the fight with Lane he seemed to do more then Aiga and even saved him from limit break the end which is nice. He’s above Rantaro because he can actually take a loss while putting up a good fight. Yes, Lui eliminated him but he was out of Stamina and got forcibly flung into Longinus in a completely unfair situation due to hyper tornado holding out to long so I won’t hold it against him. Btw, Rantaro pulled himself together and because of that I moved Ranjiro below him.
11: Aiga: I think this one is fairly simple. Aiga hasn’t really done much apart from his performance in the latest episode. It doesn’t seem like he puts up as much of a fight as Ranjiro. His performance in the latest episode is what saved him from being at the dead bottom of this list since him and Ranjiro completely destroyed Valt and Rantaro when they used their double attack. He tied with Drum in a battle of double moves but he missed the first attack which caused his team to lose the battle (although I don’t blame Aiga for this, it’s more like competence of Drum and Aiga), so I think that episode doesn’t effect this.
12: Silas: This is a very similar case to Free, the reason why he is higher is because he took on Lucifer the End on his own and only lost by a spin finish AFTER Shu (a blader who is obviously weaker than Lane) eliminated him Free first, which is pretty crazy. He also knocked both Fafnir and Longinus out so I will give him a slight edge for that one. He also managed to Draw with Hikaru even after getting hit by a limit break + special move combination and 2v1 while Free was simply knocked out by Hyuga which is pretty crazy in his part. I feel like the latest episode really solidifies his placement over Free. Another thing I’ve been thinking about, although Silas has one of the worst records in the tournament, I still feel like he puts up better fights than Aiga. Should he be placed above?
13: Free: Him and Silas have one of the worst records in the tournament. Their battles are always short and concise and they’re only notable battle was the one they had with Lui and Drum where I would say they did equal work, maybe Silas a slight bit more since he knocked both beys out. In the lastest episode Hyuga easily eliminated Free simply by using limit break burn which just makes things even worse for him especially since the battle was mostly one sided with the bros constant keeping Free and Silas on their backs. Generally Free has been getting knocked out quite fast and early or too easily throughout his battles in the tournament and it just makes him look like a glass cannon. Im pretty sure XsabmaniacX doesn't watch Sparking.
But anyways I don't think we should rank Wakiya since his contribution to the series was only at ep 44 and that was a promotional episode so it's kinda hard to say which place he would fit.
Ahh alright, will edit the tag out. As for Wakiya, yes you have a very good point, just wanted to add him in there for fun. I do have to say though, in all fairness taking on 3 bladers at once and winning is still a pretty impressive feat even for a first episode.
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Needforspeed - Mar. 17, 2021
(Mar. 17, 2021 4:07 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: 6. Valt-he’s reached his limit unlike the other 2 who still have potential
7. Lui/Ranjiro: Enablers do tend to do more work, but they are lacking in power hence why Lui and Ranjiro are here I don't think lui is lacking in power bc he cancels out World slash with ease and friendly reminder world slash is a special move that is as strong as brave sword. Valt reaching his limit is of course the case but putting him below drum and aiga is kinda weird since he definitely stronger and more strategic ( strategic is kinda debatable here) and why not put aiga/drum over shu?
again this is your opinion i have 0 intentions on putting you down i just i have some problems with your statement
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - God Dragruler - Mar. 17, 2021
(Mar. 17, 2021 4:07 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: (Mar. 17, 2021 3:12 AM)Zeutron Wrote: My updated tag league ranking. This is basically the last one since the final battle really won’t change anything.
1: Lane: Do I even need to explain this? His Flare and resonance are beyond anything exhibited in the history of burst. He has taken on and annihilated the strongest most experienced bladers in burst history throughout this tournament as well as Hyuga and Hikaru. Truth be told his record is extremely impressive and he doesn’t even really need Shu to succeed. Lane has even shown the capability to take on multiple bladers on level ground and still stomp them on his very own. Lane is arguably not only the best blader in this tournament but the best in burst as a whole. It even seems like Hyuga and Hikaru will have to 2v1 him to beat him in the final episode (although I could be wrong)
2: Hikaru is more or less the same as Hyuga but he is smarter which I feel is a big factor for this particular duo. The reason for this is because he is a more rational thinker which is what leads him and his brother to victory- for example: at times Hyuga can’t help but attack on his own but Hikaru is the one who primarily encourages Hyuga to work with him which has rocketed their performance in the tournament as it makes them organized and powerful. Like Hyuga he has flare and it seems to have risen to a level closer to Hyuga’s since the tournament started. He also used a limit break and special move combination when fighting Silas which would definitely give him some individual credit but he still needed Hyuga’s help and only managed to draw with Silas so it’s only somewhat impressive. Hikaru always seems to use his limit break in more creative ways than Hyuga, yet another reason to put him above his brother.
3: Hyuga: Hyuga is an absolute beast of an opponent his utilization of flare instantly gives him a boost over the competition. His raw power and resonance are a bit better than Hikaru’s but I feel like he lacks in intelligence which sets him below Hikaru but doesn’t change the fact that he is tough. He and Hikaru may have had the easiest loss to Lane and Shu but everyone loses to those two anyways so the way I see it, it’s not that big of a deal. After they got annihilated by Valt and Rantaro they fortunately seemed to perform far better. They crushed Aiga and Ranjiro with ease and their battle with Lui and Drum ended with the two getting their beys burst in the face of Hyuga and Hikaru. Even Wakiya couldn’t stand up against the move and ended up losing. Their flare combined with their creative usage of limit break power has made them deadly but their usage of the ultimate tag move “twin strike” is what truly sets them apart from the rest. That’s not all either, he improvised in spot and came up with the twin impact break, which allowed them to beat a Valt and Rantaro. Another twin move only lightens my image even further. Despite this, I still feel like he belongs below Hikaru.
4: Valt: Now Valt is in interesting case here. He’s is a fair bit higher than Rantaro simply because he always puts up an intense fight. Even when Rantaro was getting knocked around Valt was there to take on the challenge and Lui and Drum have to really drop in some intense effort to beat him and even the Hyper Tornado/Infinite Buster combination was only enough to knock him out. He also seems to have come up with synchro lightning so there’s that. His record in the tournament is also something I factor in which is why I put him above Lui and Wakiya, even though they (Lui and Drum) win their next match, Valt and Rantaro have still taken on Hyuga and Hikaru and won which gives him an edge over Lui and Drum. Additionally he really seemed to be able to come up with innovative strategy’s such as as storm plate barrage on Dragon and the waste of Hyuga and Hikaru’s limit break abilities (when he sent them flying into one another). He used the Mach tornado + Valkyrie combination with Rantaro (although he didn’t come up with this one) and he also outlasted Hyuga in a tag vs tag battle (Hikaru surviving was the reason why they won). He eliminated Lane and is the only one to have done it so far (albeit with Rantaro’s help), and he also best Shu by a second. This time around I moved Valt above Shu mainly because of the beating Lane feat.
5: Shu: I would put Shu and Valt on equal footing but his record with Lane has influenced this decision alongside his immense intelligence. Although Shu hasn’t done much, his strategies and intellectual decisions have proven to be the greatest of all in this tournament even if they aren’t absolutely necessary, such as his world slash and limit break slam combination with Lane or his limit break activation (which evidently wasn’t necessary but still made things easier), he was additionally the first blader to effectively utilize the storm plate and he seems to have mastered it. He also eliminated Free but seeing as Free has been getting tossed throughout this tournament, it doesn’t seem like that big of a deal. You may think that Shu being above Valt is weird but Shu tanked Synchro lightning and survived with almost no strain this makes him the only person to have successfully tanked a tag move on his own, arguably the best enduring feat in the tournament.
6: Lui: Like Drum, Lui has been absolutely dominating his opponents whether he wins or loses and he really has to be drawn out to be defeated. His raw power has been unrivalled and many beys such as Ragnaruk, Spriggan and Valkyrie have been sent flying back when they tried head on contact at the start of the battle. Apart from this, he seems to be the mastermind and brains behind his duo and he is responsible for all the teams powerful strategies and techniques which has proven him as a formidable opponent. Based on the next episode, he is also going to either create, or mutually invent the powerful friendship boosted Raging Tempest with Drum.
7: Wakiya: Now some people may not like me putting him this high or rather this low but I think it’s perfect. We have to understand that although Wakiya was able to continuously dominate multiple legends as well as Hyuga and Hikaru with his overwhelming defensive capabilities and counter techniques this was also his introduction episode hence, why I am not taking these particular feats with as much regard which is why he is as low as he is (plus one of his opponents was Aiga who is absolutely lacking). Now the one thing that really convinced me that this guy was the real deal was that, when he did lose, he lost by a simple over finish to TWIN STRIKE which is pretty much an insta kill against most tags in this tournament. Wakiya has come a long way and we can see that.
8: Rantaro: Was a tough decision between Rantaro and Aiga but since Rantaro played a major part in both of his wins, I’ll put him above Aiga. Rantaro may have one of the better records in this tournament, I’ll give him that. But one thing we have to take into consideration is the fact that when he loses, he loses badly. Aiga and Ranjiro made him look like a joke and Lui and Drum were dominating him throughout that one sided battle. Still, the record still stands and he has fought nicely even managing to beat Hikaru who is one of the best bladers in this tournament. Him and Valt also managed to tie with Hyuga and Hikaru at full power which is a pretty good feat. He invented Mach Tornado, a move that is easily one of the most powerful in the entire tournament and also synergized with Valkyrie to create a double move as well (and one far more powerful than synchro lightning at that). When he used this move with Valt, they actually both managed to burst after Hyuga (who was also using a limit break tag move) and only lost because Hikaru survived. Him and Valt were able to come up with a strategy that actually helped them defeat Lane, this makes them the first group to do it. Valt is a fair bit higher then Rantaro seeing as he actually puts up better fights. I’m not sure about Rantaro being above Drum but I’ll let y’all tell me what you think.
9: Drum: Now Drum is a very interesting one. He and Lui may have one of the lower ended records but they are going to win their next battle anyways so I’ll count it based on what we know. Throughout the tournament Drum has always put up an intense fight regardless of if he won the battle or not and his performance was insane. He was additionally able to access a powerful rainbow aura which should count for something.
10: Ranjiro: Okay so Ranjiro is where the bladers start to get a bit better. He actually puts a good amount of efforts into his battles and was responsible for beating Silas who himself kept going with Ranjiro till the end. He was responsible for their first win and shared equal responsibility with Aiga during their second. The Hyper Tornado Achilles strategy seemed to be his own which would also give him so more credibility. Lastly, in the fight with Lane he seemed to do more then Aiga and even saved him from limit break the end which is nice. He’s above Rantaro because he can actually take a loss while putting up a good fight. Yes, Lui eliminated him but he was out of Stamina and got forcibly flung into Longinus in a completely unfair situation due to hyper tornado holding out to long so I won’t hold it against him. Btw, Rantaro pulled himself together and because of that I moved Ranjiro below him.
11: Aiga: I think this one is fairly simple. Aiga hasn’t really done much apart from his performance in the latest episode. It doesn’t seem like he puts up as much of a fight as Ranjiro. His performance in the latest episode is what saved him from being at the dead bottom of this list since him and Ranjiro completely destroyed Valt and Rantaro when they used their double attack. He tied with Drum in a battle of double moves but he missed the first attack which caused his team to lose the battle (although I don’t blame Aiga for this, it’s more like competence of Drum and Aiga), so I think that episode doesn’t effect this.
12: Silas: This is a very similar case to Free, the reason why he is higher is because he took on Lucifer the End on his own and only lost by a spin finish AFTER Shu (a blader who is obviously weaker than Lane) eliminated him Free first, which is pretty crazy. He also knocked both Fafnir and Longinus out so I will give him a slight edge for that one. He also managed to Draw with Hikaru even after getting hit by a limit break + special move combination and 2v1 while Free was simply knocked out by Hyuga which is pretty crazy in his part. I feel like the latest episode really solidifies his placement over Free. Another thing I’ve been thinking about, although Silas has one of the worst records in the tournament, I still feel like he puts up better fights than Aiga. Should he be placed above?
13: Free: Him and Silas have one of the worst records in the tournament. Their battles are always short and concise and they’re only notable battle was the one they had with Lui and Drum where I would say they did equal work, maybe Silas a slight bit more since he knocked both beys out. In the lastest episode Hyuga easily eliminated Free simply by using limit break burn which just makes things even worse for him especially since the battle was mostly one sided with the bros constant keeping Free and Silas on their backs. Generally Free has been getting knocked out quite fast and early or too easily throughout his battles in the tournament and it just makes him look like a glass cannon.
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Power wise there’s definitely some inconsistencies, but as of now Lane, H+H definitely top 4. Here’s howI would do it however
1. Lane- nothing to say here
2. Hikaru- just not as strong as Lane yet
3. Shu- I place Shu over Hyuga because Shu has much more strategy than Hyuga and much more versatility. He doesn’t do much, but when he does it’s always bringing in the W
4. Hyuga- just doesn’t think things through, but like Lane he’s an absolute tank
5. Drum (awakened)/Aiga: Aiga is up here because he’s like Shu, he helps to take in the victory and covers that extra power that Ranjiro lacks same with Drum
6. Valt- although he did beat Lane, I’m placing him below Aiga and Drum because he just feels like he’s reached his limit unlike the other 2 who still have potential
7. Lui/Ranjiro: Enablers do tend to do more work, but they are lacking in power hence why Lui and Ranjiro are here
8. Free/Sisco: banding these two because they do work pretty well together and have pulled off some good dubs
9. Rantaro: he just doesn’t seem that competitive compared to the rest
10. Drum (unawakened): basically useless.
that's an interesting way of ranking like zeutron theirs a good reason to justified the ranking theirs definitely a few way to rank them when the others gets in this debate it should be fun to see haha
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - 6Jupiter5 - Mar. 17, 2021
(Mar. 17, 2021 4:29 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: (Mar. 17, 2021 4:07 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: 6. Valt-he’s reached his limit unlike the other 2 who still have potential
7. Lui/Ranjiro: Enablers do tend to do more work, but they are lacking in power hence why Lui and Ranjiro are here I don't think lui is lacking in power bc he cancels out World slash with ease and friendly reminder world slash is a special move that is as strong as brave sword. Valt reaching his limit is of course the case but putting him below drum and aiga is kinda weird since he definitely stronger and more strategic ( strategic is kinda debatable here) and why not put aiga/drum over shu?
again this is your opinion i have 0 intentions on putting you down i just i have some problems with your statement
So I’ve said that Lui is lacking in power because he just doesn’t seem to be able to pull off the win against the others, it’s one thing to cancel a move and it’s another to actually win. Aiga and Drum aren’t over Shu because Drum simply lacks the strays to touch World Spriggan, and Aiga doesn’t seem to have the feats to match up. I placed Valt below Aiga and Drum because Aiga knows the matchup better due to Valkyrie not having that much modes and Drum should actually be replaced with Valt because Drum’s still evolving and hasn’t reached his full potential (just realized this)
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - SSJBDoku - Mar. 17, 2021
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RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Zeutron - Mar. 17, 2021
(Mar. 17, 2021 4:29 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: (Mar. 17, 2021 4:07 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: 6. Valt-he’s reached his limit unlike the other 2 who still have potential
7. Lui/Ranjiro: Enablers do tend to do more work, but they are lacking in power hence why Lui and Ranjiro are here I don't think lui is lacking in power bc he cancels out World slash with ease and friendly reminder world slash is a special move that is as strong as brave sword. Valt reaching his limit is of course the case but putting him below drum and aiga is kinda weird since he definitely stronger and more strategic ( strategic is kinda debatable here) and why not put aiga/drum over shu?
again this is your opinion i have 0 intentions on putting you down i just i have some problems with your statement
Cancelling out World Slash is pretty crazy but at the same time we gotta understand that raw attack power is Longinus thing. That’s like a pure stamina battle between Free, Hyuga and Rantaro. Rantaro is going to win but only because tank/pure stamina is his thing. There are many other factors we must consider.
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - 6Jupiter5 - Mar. 17, 2021
(Mar. 17, 2021 4:54 AM)Zeutron Wrote: (Mar. 17, 2021 4:29 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: I don't think lui is lacking in power bc he cancels out World slash with ease and friendly reminder world slash is a special move that is as strong as brave sword. Valt reaching his limit is of course the case but putting him below drum and aiga is kinda weird since he definitely stronger and more strategic ( strategic is kinda debatable here) and why not put aiga/drum over shu?
again this is your opinion i have 0 intentions on putting you down i just i have some problems with your statement
Cancelling out World Slash is pretty crazy but at the same time we gotta understand that Raw attack power is Longinus thing. That’s like me comparing a pure stamina battle between Free, Hyuga and Rantaro. Rantaro is going to win but only because tank/pure stamina is his thing. There are many other factors we must consider.
But if it is Rantaro vs Free vs Hyuga Free would probably win (with spin steal and what not)
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Needforspeed - Mar. 17, 2021
(Mar. 17, 2021 4:43 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: So I’ve said that Lui is lacking in power because he just doesn’t seem to be able to pull off the win against the others, it’s one thing to cancel a move and it’s another to actually win. I placed Valt below Aiga and Drum because Aiga knows the matchup better due to Valkyrie not having that much modes Well lui was simply caught off guard by his 2 losses, he definitely didn't expect shu activating L2T ability and sisco last attack. I don't think having much more modes put you to the advantage since you know skill is needed for everything on burst at this point.
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Zeutron - Mar. 17, 2021
(Mar. 17, 2021 4:55 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: (Mar. 17, 2021 4:54 AM)Zeutron Wrote: Cancelling out World Slash is pretty crazy but at the same time we gotta understand that Raw attack power is Longinus thing. That’s like me comparing a pure stamina battle between Free, Hyuga and Rantaro. Rantaro is going to win but only because tank/pure stamina is his thing. There are many other factors we must consider.
But if it is Rantaro vs Free vs Hyuga Free would probably win (with spin steal and what not)
Spin steal doesn’t seem to guarantee a spin finish in the anime because kinda like the real thing, the stela doesn’t work once the velocity decreases. In a pure stamina battle Rantaro would definitely win. Either that or it goes both ways.
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - 6Jupiter5 - Mar. 17, 2021
(Mar. 17, 2021 4:56 AM)Zeutron Wrote: (Mar. 17, 2021 4:55 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: But if it is Rantaro vs Free vs Hyuga Free would probably win (with spin steal and what not)
Spin steak doesn’t seem to guarantee a spin finish in the anime because kinda like the real thing, the stela doesn’t work once the velocity decreases.
Even so, free just has way more raw power and he already beat Rantaro pretty sure.
(Mar. 17, 2021 4:56 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: (Mar. 17, 2021 4:43 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: So I’ve said that Lui is lacking in power because he just doesn’t seem to be able to pull off the win against the others, it’s one thing to cancel a move and it’s another to actually win. I placed Valt below Aiga and Drum because Aiga knows the matchup better due to Valkyrie not having that much modes Well lui was simply caught off guard by his 2 losses, he definitely didn't expect shu activating L2T ability and sisco last attack. I don't think having much more modes put you to the advantage since you know skill is needed for everything on burst at this point.
Having more modes does give you an advantage because you don’t know the matchup, and Aiga definitely has displayed the skill to take Valt on.
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Zeutron - Mar. 17, 2021
(Mar. 17, 2021 5:00 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: (Mar. 17, 2021 4:56 AM)Zeutron Wrote: Spin steak doesn’t seem to guarantee a spin finish in the anime because kinda like the real thing, the stela doesn’t work once the velocity decreases.
Even so, free just has way more raw power and he already beat Rantaro pretty sure.
(Mar. 17, 2021 4:56 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: Well lui was simply caught off guard by his 2 losses, he definitely didn't expect shu activating L2T ability and sisco last attack. I don't think having much more modes put you to the advantage since you know skill is needed for everything on burst at this point.
Having more modes does give you an advantage because you don’t know the matchup, and Aiga definitely has displayed the skill to take Valt on.
Yeah, but he beat Rantaro with a knockout during his introduction battle. When they fought later they were seemingly always evenly matched (and boy did they fight a lot). Speaking of which, would have loved to see a proper 1v1.
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - 6Jupiter5 - Mar. 17, 2021
(Mar. 17, 2021 5:05 AM)Zeutron Wrote: (Mar. 17, 2021 5:00 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: Even so, free just has way more raw power and he already beat Rantaro pretty sure.
Having more modes does give you an advantage because you don’t know the matchup, and Aiga definitely has displayed the skill to take Valt on.
Yeah, but he beat Rantaro with a knockout during his introduction battle. When they fought later they were seemingly always evenly matched (and boy did they fight a lot). Speaking of which, would have loved to see a proper 1v1
Yeah, Sparking definitely didn’t do a good job for fan service, but it’s really fine since they tried to experiment with tag teams. There’s a lot of 1 v 1’s we missed out on.
RE: Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts - Needforspeed - Mar. 17, 2021
(Mar. 17, 2021 5:00 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: Having more modes does give you an advantage because you don’t know the matchup, and Aiga definitely has displayed the skill to take Valt on. Well at that time Valt was caught off guard by Ranjiro hyper tornado it wasn't really his mode doing the work.
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