(Jul. 30, 2020  2:43 PM)snoc Wrote:

(Jul. 30, 2020  2:40 PM)Admiral W Wrote: Unless I see the receipts, I don't subscribe to that. All we saw was him skyrocket in power with no reasonable explanation. Unless you have proof, then everything you've stated is a theory. By the time he left victories he had already surpassed Drum with no explanation as to why. That whole power creep was unreasonable and ridiculous. He was out of nowhere already stronger than a Blader who had a strong resonance and blading experience to back that up. Doesn't make any sense.

I keep proving to you over and over yet you keep denying it like I'm not proving my points. Lets just agree to disagree.

(Jul. 30, 2020  12:51 PM)SunBlader98 Wrote: Random:Cuza should be in S-rank right where Gwyn rank is (8th) cause he proven stronger then Kurtz,Silas,Xander,and Rantaro

(Jul. 30, 2020  2:47 PM)Admiral W Wrote:

(Jul. 30, 2020  2:43 PM)snoc Wrote: I keep proving to you over and over yet you keep denying it like I'm not proving my points. Lets just agree to disagree.

You haven't proven anything. You keep stating things without anything to back it up. You keep saying things are implied. Gwyn didn't really have anything that those other bladers didn't have. He had a powerful bey and a powerful resonance. Both Delta and Drum have those things and it still took them awhile to arrive at their level of power.

(Jul. 30, 2020  3:01 PM)Vtryuga Wrote:

(Jul. 30, 2020  2:47 PM)Admiral W Wrote: You haven't proven anything. You keep stating things without anything to back it up. You keep saying things are implied. Gwyn didn't really have anything that those other bladers didn't have. He had a powerful bey and a powerful resonance. Both Delta and Drum have those things and it still took them awhile to arrive at their level of power.

there are a lot of things which are implied.. gwyn was a natural talent and equations and physics can really improve your bey to another level. Though I agree with you .. if they showed some more scenes with gwyn it would have felt even more justified. But I am ok with them not showing those scenes

(Jul. 30, 2020  2:47 PM)Admiral W Wrote:

(Jul. 30, 2020  2:43 PM)snoc Wrote: I keep proving to you over and over yet you keep denying it like I'm not proving my points. Lets just agree to disagree.

You haven't proven anything. You keep stating things without anything to back it up. You keep saying things are implied. Gwyn didn't really have anything that those other bladers didn't have. He had a powerful bey and a powerful resonance. Both Delta and Drum have those things and it still took them awhile to arrive at their level of power.

(Jul. 30, 2020  2:58 PM)Needforspeed Wrote:

(Jul. 30, 2020  12:51 PM)SunBlader98 Wrote: Random:Cuza should be in S-rank right where Gwyn rank is (8th) cause he proven stronger then Kurtz,Silas,Xander,and Rantaro

Cuza was never defeated krutz in the manga Therefore hiro morita wouldn't put him on the list so theoretically Xhaka rantaro sisco and krutz are better

(Jul. 30, 2020  3:12 PM)snoc Wrote:

(Jul. 30, 2020  2:47 PM)Admiral W Wrote: You haven't proven anything. You keep stating things without anything to back it up. You keep saying things are implied. Gwyn didn't really have anything that those other bladers didn't have. He had a powerful bey and a powerful resonance. Both Delta and Drum have those things and it still took them awhile to arrive at their level of power.

Yes i did. Its heavily implied he made those strategies, and a lot of it is just common sense, but whatever. Since you wont stop, I'll just have to lay everything out again so you can understand what I'm trying to say.

Lets look at Gwyn

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1. Gwyn made research papers on Hyperphysics. 

2. After seeing arthur battle it is heavily implied he researched other beys, but after that he used his research on hyper physics to make the power core theory. This is a jump not in power, but just a good head start. 

3. He completed the power core theory to make Hybrid, then added Mugen Lock to make the Genesis layer from arthur. Using mugen lock is another headstart since he didnt have to develop it on his own.

4. At first Gwyn didn't really know how to launch, but after being taught he just went with his beys abilities and his research to beta people for the time being

5. After some battles Genesis opened up to him. Now Gwyn can talk to Genesis strengthening bonds with helps strength, and also can make more calculations and stuff with Genesis' help. This is a reasonable jump in power.

6.Gwyn crushed a ton of bladers knowing Drum would come battle him. After calculating everything he knew the outcome of the battle, but still lost due to Delta's interference (Delta only did that in the manga, but its the source material so we'll go with that. Dragon would still have broke if it wasn't for Delta, Gwyn wasn't wrong.)

7.Drum is weak so Gwyn goes to join Hell. During this time if you use common sense and its implied, you would know Gwyn was preparing by making more strategies and such. This is a jump in power and a reasonable one since Gwyn has more strategies up his sleeve. He can use these to obviously win.

8.During their final battle Gwyn pushes his limits. In doing so he's able to perfect some strategies. This is also a reasonable big jump, since he perfects and uses his strategies (like the shield) he already made, and used his full power so hes obviously gonna be alot stronger.

As you can see its very obvious that by going through all of this planning ang growing stronger and stronger constantly, Gwyn would end up stronger than Drum and Delta. Now lets look at Drum.

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1.Drum is at BC Sol. He has problems launching and stuff but he's still good. He makes Dragon with Raul and goes to Japan.

2.Drum battles Amane with his new bey. He's a bit shaky at first but beats Amane with his new special move.

3.Drum battles Fumiya and loses. After this drum does serious training and learns how to launch properly and make strategies.

4. Drum knows Wizard has high friction so he smash it into a wall and wins his Fumiya rematch.

5. By going through more and more tough battles and exploiting weaknesses and growing with Dragon, Drum slowly grows and improves over time.

6. At the battle with Aiga Arthur interferes. Arthur breaks Dragon.

7.After seeing the Power Core system Drum completes it and makes Dragon. Its a jump in power. but he cant use it well yet.

8. At HELL Drum perfects his use of Dragon. There is no significant jumps in power level here, Drum just used the stuff he already had to win.

9. Drum prepares for the final battle after losing to Gwyn.  There is a small jump in power after Training.

10. During the final battle Drum has a small jump in power awakening Dragon. With the power of friendship they beat HELL.

11. When evolving to Tempest Drum gets a small jump in power.

As you should now be able to tell, Drum has a very slow, gradually rise in Power. Gwyn had a lot of big jumps for various reasons, so he was quickly able to be stronger than Drum and Delta. Now I am done with this conversation, I don't feel like continuing it since its already been going for like 2 days lol.

(Jul. 30, 2020  3:21 PM)rainy days Wrote:

(Jul. 30, 2020  2:58 PM)Needforspeed Wrote: Cuza was never defeated krutz in the manga Therefore hiro morita wouldn't put him on the list so theoretically Xhaka rantaro sisco and krutz are better

Instead of Xhaka, it should be Xhan. Since he is more relevant the Xhaka and Xhaka passed down Xcalibur. Why would take it back?

(Jul. 30, 2020  3:38 PM)Needforspeed Wrote:

(Jul. 30, 2020  3:21 PM)rainy days Wrote: Instead of Xhaka, it should be Xhan. Since he is more relevant the Xhaka and Xhaka passed down Xcalibur. Why would take it back?

Idk maybe Xhan was being too plain that hiro decided to put Xhaka in but the passing thing wasn't a thing he just says that Xhan "may my bey be the same name as yours sensei"

(Jul. 30, 2020  12:58 PM)SunBlader98 Wrote:

(Jul. 30, 2020  12:56 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: First, Cuza is a he.
Second, he's only beaten Kurtz from that list I believe. Never had a serious 1v1 with the others you named that had a clear winner.
Third, some people got stronger during the time skip and others not so much. Cuza just didn't get strong enough to be a legend. I like Cuza, but they just didn't make him a legend.

So Atleast A-Rank and read the Big-5 Article he is stronger

(Jul. 30, 2020  3:46 PM)rainy days Wrote:

(Jul. 30, 2020  3:38 PM)Needforspeed Wrote: Idk maybe Xhan was being too plain that hiro decided to put Xhaka in but the passing thing wasn't a thing he just says that Xhan "may my bey be the same name as yours sensei"

I feel like Xhan had more going for him, like he owned a castle, servants, and was a prince. Xhaka owned a dojo and won dojo tournaments. In my opinion, Xhan accomplished more than Xhaka.

(Jul. 30, 2020  12:51 PM)SunBlader98 Wrote: Random:Cuza should be in S-rank right where Gwyn rank is (8th) cause he proven stronger then Kurtz,Silas,Xander,and Rantaro

(Jul. 30, 2020  6:59 PM)God Dragruler Wrote:

(Jul. 30, 2020  3:46 PM)rainy days Wrote: I feel like Xhan had more going for him, like he owned a castle, servants, and was a prince. Xhaka owned a dojo and won dojo tournaments. In my opinion, Xhan accomplished more than Xhaka.

having a castle  servant and a prince isn't an accomplishment xhan was born as a prince that doesn't make you a great blader it just means you have a better life .  the only accomplishment xhan has was his part of the z 4 even then phi and hearts overshadow him as the we're the big bois . even then xhaka tops that he was a supreme 4 and member of the big 5 fought stronger bladers than xhan have records wise xhaka is the better blader

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(Jul. 30, 2020  12:51 PM)SunBlader98 Wrote: Random:Cuza should be in S-rank right where Gwyn rank is (8th) cause he proven stronger then Kurtz,Silas,Xander,and Rantaro

Cuza isnt stronger though he pulled a miracle on Kurtz to get that win even then the God bladers cup is a group stage by points the the ones Who wins the most qualified cause the got more wins aka points. Cuza only won 1 match out of his 5 match while Kurtz won 2 out his 5 match. Now going with sisco he won 3 out of 5 keep on mind sisco beat 3 current big 5 at that time.  And xhaka won 2 match out 5 which his wins was also against fellow big 5 as well.  Cuza shouldn’t be even rank 8 cause norma has 2 wins as well. Cuza falls in the same boat as joshua And boa all 3 got 1 win in the group stage. So his supposed to be between 9, 10 or 11. Not 8 thats where the big 5 article made a mistake

(Jul. 30, 2020  8:56 PM)rainy days Wrote:

(Jul. 30, 2020  6:59 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: having a castle  servant and a prince isn't an accomplishment xhan was born as a prince that doesn't make you a great blader it just means you have a better life .  the only accomplishment xhan has was his part of the z 4 even then phi and hearts overshadow him as the we're the big bois . even then xhaka tops that he was a supreme 4 and member of the big 5 fought stronger bladers than xhan have records wise xhaka is the better blader

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Cuza isnt stronger though he pulled a miracle on Kurtz to get that win even then the God bladers cup is a group stage by points the the ones Who wins the most qualified cause the got more wins aka points. Cuza only won 1 match out of his 5 match while Kurtz won 2 out his 5 match. Now going with sisco he won 3 out of 5 keep on mind sisco beat 3 current big 5 at that time.  And xhaka won 2 match out 5 which his wins was also against fellow big 5 as well.  Cuza shouldn’t be even rank 8 cause norma has 2 wins as well. Cuza falls in the same boat as joshua And boa all 3 got 1 win in the group stage. So his supposed to be between 9, 10 or 11. Not 8 thats where the big 5 article made a mistake

I don't mean that he's is the better blader because of those things, I was stating his current conditon versus Xhaka's conditions. He was doing better at life than Xhaka so that could be like a reputation for him. Xhaka was also the 4th of the Big Five at the time. But as we saw in Chouzetsu, Xhan trained with Xhaka, and eventually beat him. So if we are talking about stats, then Xhaka is stronger. But overall, Xhan is the better blader.

(Jul. 30, 2020  9:13 PM)Admiral W Wrote: I'd say that Xander is the stronger Blader. He was a former big five member. In addition he's currently ranked 10th in the world. Xavier isn't even ranked in A rank that we know of. He's definitely isn't in the top 5 of A rank. He beat Xander once which is a point in his favor, but it was only once; also Xander's bey was a generation behind. Honestly, I wish they had did more with Xavier, but all in all Xander is the more powerful blader.

(Jul. 30, 2020  9:56 PM)God Dragruler Wrote:

(Jul. 30, 2020  8:56 PM)rainy days Wrote: I don't mean that he's is the better blader because of those things, I was stating his current conditon versus Xhaka's conditions. He was doing better at life than Xhaka so that could be like a reputation for him. Xhaka was also the 4th of the Big Five at the time. But as we saw in Chouzetsu, Xhan trained with Xhaka, and eventually beat him. So if we are talking about stats, then Xhaka is stronger. But overall, Xhan is the better blader.

Again doing better at life shouldn’t even be use that was never a thing an beyblade burst. Even if you use him being a prince give him reputation that wouldnt be true. Cause again xhaka will be more important in the beyblade World which give him more reputation cause his been doing this longer than xhan have rank high in the World was leading not 1 but 2 team on the national And international level . As you said xhaka was big 5 at the time but that record still stays no matter what thats still a beyblade accomplishment we dont know if his rank 7 is still the same it probably was since both sisco And Kurtz has maintain their rank. Well yea xhan would obviously beat him xhaka was using a downgrade xcalibur no blader in burst has won a match with a downgrade of an upgrade system its an automatic. Plus we only saw one match we dont know how many times the face at all that doesn't make xhan better or stronger than xhaka if he had beaten a xhaka with the Same system as him that would be more impressive that match only makes xhaka more impressive cause he can still go against a bey thats one generation above sieg.  Now lastly xhaka can easely train to be the current rank 10 right now among the legends in fact he never stop training with sieg on top of that now imagine him with an upgrade

(Jul. 30, 2020  10:21 PM)rainy days Wrote:

(Jul. 30, 2020  9:56 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: Again doing better at life shouldn’t even be use that was never a thing an beyblade burst. Even if you use him being a prince give him reputation that wouldnt be true. Cause again xhaka will be more important in the beyblade World which give him more reputation cause his been doing this longer than xhan have rank high in the World was leading not 1 but 2 team on the national And international level . As you said xhaka was big 5 at the time but that record still stays no matter what thats still a beyblade accomplishment we dont know if his rank 7 is still the same it probably was since both sisco And Kurtz has maintain their rank. Well yea xhan would obviously beat him xhaka was using a downgrade xcalibur no blader in burst has won a match with a downgrade of an upgrade system its an automatic. Plus we only saw one match we dont know how many times the face at all that doesn't make xhan better or stronger than xhaka if he had beaten a xhaka with the Same system as him that would be more impressive that match only makes xhaka more impressive cause he can still go against a bey thats one generation above sieg.  Now lastly xhaka can easely train to be the current rank 10 right now among the legends in fact he never stop training with sieg on top of that now imagine him with an upgrade

How is being a prince not give him a reputation? Xhaka didn't really make an impact in the Beyblade world. He made an impact on the characters. Also we all should know, that doing Beyblade longer than someone doesn't mean that they are always the better blader. Aiga, Drum, and Lui never made teams go on International levels and look how strong they are. Even though the Big Five is an accomplishment, wouldn't the Z4 accomplishment be also important because it signifies the top 4 Chouzetsu beys? Just because Sisco and Kurtz kept their rank doesn't mean he did. It doesn't matter if he was using a downgrade Xcalibur, its not the bey its the Bladers connection with their beys that make it so stronger. Ranjiro was using Rising Ragnurak in Chouzetsu before he evolved it into Crash, and he was beating beys. Xhan and Xhaka only battled once, so in that battle Xhan beat him, and the look on Xhaka's face looked genuinely shocked. And Xhaka trained Xhan, wouldn't you think that if Xhaka trained, Xhan would train with him?

(Jul. 30, 2020  2:46 PM)rainy days Wrote: New argument: Beyblade Burst GT has the most plot-holes, and confusing logic.

(Jul. 30, 2020  10:50 PM)God Dragruler Wrote:

(Jul. 30, 2020  10:21 PM)rainy days Wrote: How is being a prince not give him a reputation? Xhaka didn't really make an impact in the Beyblade world. He made an impact on the characters. Also we all should know, that doing Beyblade longer than someone doesn't mean that they are always the better blader. Aiga, Drum, and Lui never made teams go on International levels and look how strong they are. Even though the Big Five is an accomplishment, wouldn't the Z4 accomplishment be also important because it signifies the top 4 Chouzetsu beys? Just because Sisco and Kurtz kept their rank doesn't mean he did. It doesn't matter if he was using a downgrade Xcalibur, its not the bey its the Bladers connection with their beys that make it so stronger. Ranjiro was using Rising Ragnurak in Chouzetsu before he evolved it into Crash, and he was beating beys. Xhan and Xhaka only battled once, so in that battle Xhan beat him, and the look on Xhaka's face looked genuinely shocked. And Xhaka trained Xhan, wouldn't you think that if Xhaka trained, Xhan would train with him?

wait did you seriously said xhaka made no impact on the beyblade world so let's see being a supreme 4, a big 5 leading 2 team looks like doesn't give you reputation in a sport , compare to a kid who's reputation doesn't come from himself but from his family you do know royalty doesn't mean you have more reputation than someone who's been in beyblading for years right? cause royalty has nothing to do with beyblade that status is for royalty affair , going by your logic you xhan reputation in the beyblade world is more than valt,  aiga, shu  free and lui , rantaro.   I wonder we're I said beyblading longer makes you a better beyblade ? I said he got more reputation cause his been beyblading before xhan don't know we're you got that part you just wrote ,  and again I said probably he could still be rank 7 never said he was that's why I said probably not he is rank 7 .  yea as you said z4 is an accomplishment never said it wasn't lol I said xhaka is more accomplishment unlike the z4 it's only a title for the cho z generation to which valt and others not include not like big 5 which literally the best 5 In the world.  theirs a differences . your going to use he had a better bond as an excuse xhaka was literally using sieg xcalibur being am upgrade or downgrade matter their no way their gonna let a downgrade beat an upgrade (cause that's not good marketing wise) being shocked at losing is nothing new almost all the bladers has been shocked of losing nothing new ,ranjiro of course ranjiro was winning with rising he never fought cho z beys before hearing about them at that cho z beys we're rare not everyone got them give me one blader ranjiro wasn't  beatimh cho z beys until crash . I don't know why you even wrote the last part at all, cause I said he could've easily become top 10 cause he never stop training that part wasn't did xhan but xhaka so yea don't know why you even said that.

(Jul. 31, 2020  12:40 AM)rainy days Wrote:

(Jul. 30, 2020  10:50 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: wait did you seriously said xhaka made no impact on the beyblade world so let's see being a supreme 4, a big 5 leading 2 team looks like doesn't give you reputation in a sport , compare to a kid who's reputation doesn't come from himself but from his family you do know royalty doesn't mean you have more reputation than someone who's been in beyblading for years right? cause royalty has nothing to do with beyblade that status is for royalty affair , going by your logic you xhan reputation in the beyblade world is more than valt,  aiga, shu  free and lui , rantaro.   I wonder we're I said beyblading longer makes you a better beyblade ? I said he got more reputation cause his been beyblading before xhan don't know we're you got that part you just wrote ,  and again I said probably he could still be rank 7 never said he was that's why I said probably not he is rank 7 .  yea as you said z4 is an accomplishment never said it wasn't lol I said xhaka is more accomplishment unlike the z4 it's only a title for the cho z generation to which valt and others not include not like big 5 which literally the best 5 In the world.  theirs a differences . your going to use he had a better bond as an excuse xhaka was literally using sieg xcalibur being am upgrade or downgrade matter their no way their gonna let a downgrade beat an upgrade (cause that's not good marketing wise) being shocked at losing is nothing new almost all the bladers has been shocked of losing nothing new ,ranjiro of course ranjiro was winning with rising he never fought cho z beys before hearing about them at that cho z beys we're rare not everyone got them give me one blader ranjiro wasn't  beatimh cho z beys until crash . I don't know why you even wrote the last part at all, cause I said he could've easily become top 10 cause he never stop training that part wasn't did xhan but xhaka so yea don't know why you even said that.

My logic wasn't to interpret that Xhan had more reputation than Valt, Aiga, Shu, Free and Lui, and Rantaro. Xhaka led his dojo into nationals but then that's it, it never went any further. He literally left to join another team. Also, you did say that ill quote you:" cause his been doing this longer than xhan". I was talking about his reputation to be big enough to return to Sparking, not his reputation in the Beyblade world. Xhaka was in the Big Five for the God generation at a time, and Xhan is in the Z4, top Bladers for the Chouzetsu generation. So in a sense, there are equal, not exactly, but you could think of It that way. How is a downgrade beating an upgrade bad for marketing? Everyone knows that Beys differ from anime and real life etc: Heaven Pegasus. And judging by your logic, since Xhaka has accomplished more than Xhan, (Top 5 blader in the world btw, you said that) why wouldn't he be surprised when Xhan showed his extreme power and beat Xhaka? Ranjiro still fought unnamed god beys with Rising, isn't that an generation down? Also what do you mean when you said using his bond is an excuse for him beating Xhaka? The entire power source of Beyblade is resonating with your beys and your connection with them. Thats why people like Gwyn and Lane are strong, because of their connections. I never said Ranjiro was beating Chouzetsu beys with Rising, I said he was beating beys generations above him. And I wrote that last part about the training because it made sense. Xhan has literally been training with Xhaka for years now, probably surpassing him. If Xhaka was training, wouldn't Xhan TRAIN WITH HIM.

(Jul. 31, 2020  1:03 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Jul. 31, 2020  12:40 AM)rainy days Wrote: My logic wasn't to interpret that Xhan had more reputation than Valt, Aiga, Shu, Free and Lui, and Rantaro. Xhaka led his dojo into nationals but then that's it, it never went any further. He literally left to join another team. Also, you did say that ill quote you:" cause his been doing this longer than xhan". I was talking about his reputation to be big enough to return to Sparking, not his reputation in the Beyblade world. Xhaka was in the Big Five for the God generation at a time, and Xhan is in the Z4, top Bladers for the Chouzetsu generation. So in a sense, there are equal, not exactly, but you could think of It that way. How is a downgrade beating an upgrade bad for marketing? Everyone knows that Beys differ from anime and real life etc: Heaven Pegasus. And judging by your logic, since Xhaka has accomplished more than Xhan, (Top 5 blader in the world btw, you said that) why wouldn't he be surprised when Xhan showed his extreme power and beat Xhaka? Ranjiro still fought unnamed god beys with Rising, isn't that an generation down? Also what do you mean when you said using his bond is an excuse for him beating Xhaka? The entire power source of Beyblade is resonating with your beys and your connection with them. Thats why people like Gwyn and Lane are strong, because of their connections. I never said Ranjiro was beating Chouzetsu beys with Rising, I said he was beating beys generations above him. And I wrote that last part about the training because it made sense. Xhan has literally been training with Xhaka for years now, probably surpassing him. If Xhaka was training, wouldn't Xhan TRAIN WITH HIM.

Well you gotta take into consideration that Xhan gave Buster Xcalibur to Xhaka for those battles against Aiga so that Aiga could fight a stronger opponent. It’s safe to say Xhaka would have been better with a cho z beyblade in s3z

(Jul. 30, 2020  9:58 PM)rainy days Wrote:

(Jul. 30, 2020  9:13 PM)Admiral W Wrote: I'd say that Xander is the stronger Blader. He was a former big five member. In addition he's currently ranked 10th in the world. Xavier isn't even ranked in A rank that we know of. He's definitely isn't in the top 5 of A rank. He beat Xander once which is a point in his favor, but it was only once; also Xander's bey was a generation behind. Honestly, I wish they had did more with Xavier, but all in all Xander is the more powerful blader.

He probably is top 5. Since the manga revealed top 3 Bladers, he could be 4th or 5th. I feel like Xhan could make an return in the anime. As an replacement of Xhaka for whatever reason. I want more of Xhan, since he was supposed to be this new owner that we would be focused on. Hopefully he does return, with an Sparking Xcalibur and a new design. That would be nice. And since Xhaka is 10th, him and Xhan could both return in a new arc.

(Jul. 30, 2020  10:21 PM)rainy days Wrote:

(Jul. 30, 2020  9:56 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: Again doing better at life shouldn’t even be use that was never a thing an beyblade burst. Even if you use him being a prince give him reputation that wouldnt be true. Cause again xhaka will be more important in the beyblade World which give him more reputation cause his been doing this longer than xhan have rank high in the World was leading not 1 but 2 team on the national And international level . As you said xhaka was big 5 at the time but that record still stays no matter what thats still a beyblade accomplishment we dont know if his rank 7 is still the same it probably was since both sisco And Kurtz has maintain their rank. Well yea xhan would obviously beat him xhaka was using a downgrade xcalibur no blader in burst has won a match with a downgrade of an upgrade system its an automatic. Plus we only saw one match we dont know how many times the face at all that doesn't make xhan better or stronger than xhaka if he had beaten a xhaka with the Same system as him that would be more impressive that match only makes xhaka more impressive cause he can still go against a bey thats one generation above sieg.  Now lastly xhaka can easely train to be the current rank 10 right now among the legends in fact he never stop training with sieg on top of that now imagine him with an upgrade

How is being a prince not give him a reputation? Xhaka didn't really make an impact in the Beyblade world. He made an impact on the characters. Also we all should know, that doing Beyblade longer than someone doesn't mean that they are always the better blader. Aiga, Drum, and Lui never made teams go on International levels and look how strong they are. Even though the Big Five is an accomplishment, wouldn't the Z4 accomplishment be also important because it signifies the top 4 Chouzetsu beys? Just because Sisco and Kurtz kept their rank doesn't mean he did. It doesn't matter if he was using a downgrade Xcalibur, its not the bey its the Bladers connection with their beys that make it so stronger. Ranjiro was using Rising Ragnurak in Chouzetsu before he evolved it into Crash, and he was beating beys. Xhan and Xhaka only battled once, so in that battle Xhan beat him, and the look on Xhaka's face looked genuinely shocked. And Xhaka trained Xhan, wouldn't you think that if Xhaka trained, Xhan would train with him?

(Jul. 31, 2020  1:25 AM)Needforspeed Wrote:

(Jul. 31, 2020  1:03 AM)Zeutron Wrote: Well you gotta take into consideration that Xhan gave Buster Xcalibur to Xhaka for those battles against Aiga so that Aiga could fight a stronger opponent. It’s safe to say Xhaka would have been better with a cho z beyblade in s3z

Yeah there is no argument here Xhaka deserves Xcalibur better than anyone in the series