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Should we ban: Cho-z Valkyrie,Cho-z Achilles,Cho-z Spriggan - CheetoBlader - Dec. 05, 2018
With the “Unburstable” gimmick BEYBLADEs will be overpowered and hard to beat
RE: Should we ban: Cho-z Valkyrie,Cho-z Achilles,Cho-z Spriggan - CitrusNinja3 - Dec. 05, 2018
(Dec. 05, 2018 11:08 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote: With the “Unburstable” gimmick BEYBLADEs will be overpowered and hard to beat
They also have a lot of recoil and not as much weight as other Cho-Z Beys, so they could be knocked out a decent amount. Also, it's hard to activate the Burst Stoppers, so it sort of cancels out the fact that they may not burst in battle.
RE: Should we ban: Cho-z Valkyrie,Cho-z Achilles,Cho-z Spriggan - CheetoBlader - Dec. 05, 2018
(Dec. 05, 2018 11:12 PM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote:(Dec. 05, 2018 11:08 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote: With the “Unburstable” gimmick BEYBLADEs will be overpowered and hard to beat
They also have a lot of recoil and not as much weight as other Cho-Z Beys, so they could be knocked out a decent amount. Also, it's hard to activate the Burst Stoppers, so it sort of cancels out the fact that they may not burst in battle.
But when the burst stoppers come out they are hard to beat
RE: Should we ban: Cho-z Valkyrie,Cho-z Achilles,Cho-z Spriggan - CitrusNinja3 - Dec. 05, 2018
(Dec. 05, 2018 11:14 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote:(Dec. 05, 2018 11:12 PM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: They also have a lot of recoil and not as much weight as other Cho-Z Beys, so they could be knocked out a decent amount. Also, it's hard to activate the Burst Stoppers, so it sort of cancels out the fact that they may not burst in battle.
But when the burst stoppers come out they are hard to beat
But with all the Defense and Stamina Types running rampant, there isn't much recoil to burst them with.
RE: Should we ban: Cho-z Valkyrie,Cho-z Achilles,Cho-z Spriggan - Valkyriology - Dec. 06, 2018
Yea that's a no for me chief
RE: Should we ban: Cho-z Valkyrie,Cho-z Achilles,Cho-z Spriggan - Ice909 - Dec. 06, 2018
Don't ban them. They'd help To balance out the currently Stamina-dominated meta we've got going on.
RE: Should we ban: Cho-z Valkyrie,Cho-z Achilles,Cho-z Spriggan - MonoDragon - Dec. 06, 2018
No. Unless you like nothing but Stamina type battles
RE: Should we ban: Cho-z Valkyrie,Cho-z Achilles,Cho-z Spriggan - AirKingNeo - Dec. 06, 2018
If we ban Cho-Z Valk, Cho-Z Spriggan, and Cho-Z Achillies, we might as well ban Hell Salamander, Archer Hercules, and Revive Phoenix.
Now, do we really want to ban 6 layers? No. I would have been fine with banning the later 3, but now that we have the Cho-Z beys being able to actually beat them, we don't really need the bans.
RE: Should we ban: Cho-z Valkyrie,Cho-z Achilles,Cho-z Spriggan - CheetoBlader - Dec. 06, 2018
(Dec. 06, 2018 1:46 AM)AirKingNeo Wrote: If we ban Cho-Z Valk, Cho-Z Spriggan, and Cho-Z Achillies, we might as well ban Hell Salamander, Archer Hercules, and Revive Phoenix.
Now, do we really want to ban 6 layers? No. I would have been fine with banning the later 3, but now that we have the Cho-Z beys being able to actually beat them, we don't really need the bans.
I didn’t think about that thank you
RE: Should we ban: Cho-z Valkyrie,Cho-z Achilles,Cho-z Spriggan - God Dragruler - Dec. 06, 2018
At first at thought both cho z valkyrie and cho z spriggan should be ban, but after while I think the shouldn't yes the burst stopper gimmick makes them hard to burst, but the can get ko plus they break the Stamina meta who's been dominating for awhile. So the don't need to be ban
RE: Should we ban: Cho-z Valkyrie,Cho-z Achilles,Cho-z Spriggan - CheetoBlader - Dec. 06, 2018
(Dec. 06, 2018 1:48 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: At first at thought both cho z valkyrie and cho z spriggan should be ban, but after while I think the shouldn't yes the burst stopper gimmick makes them hard to burst, but the can get ko plus they break the Stamina meta who's been dominating for awhile. So the don't need to be ban
I think so too
RE: Should we ban: Cho-z Valkyrie,Cho-z Achilles,Cho-z Spriggan - CitrusNinja3 - Dec. 06, 2018
(Dec. 06, 2018 1:48 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: At first at thought both cho z valkyrie and cho z spriggan should be ban, but after while I think the shouldn't yes the burst stopper gimmick makes them hard to burst, but the can get ko plus they break the Stamina meta who's been dominating for awhile. So the don't need to be ban
Except for the fact that they're OP with Bearing and that choS is replacing hS almost entirely for best 0B.Br Bey.
RE: Should we ban: Cho-z Valkyrie,Cho-z Achilles,Cho-z Spriggan - Dt20000 - Dec. 06, 2018
(Dec. 06, 2018 1:53 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote:(Dec. 06, 2018 1:48 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: At first at thought both cho z valkyrie and cho z spriggan should be ban, but after while I think the shouldn't yes the burst stopper gimmick makes them hard to burst, but the can get ko plus they break the Stamina meta who's been dominating for awhile. So the don't need to be ban
Except for the fact that they're OP with Bearing and that choS is replacing hS almost entirely for best 0B.Br Bey.
So?
RE: Should we ban: Cho-z Valkyrie,Cho-z Achilles,Cho-z Spriggan - CitrusNinja3 - Dec. 06, 2018
(Dec. 06, 2018 1:55 AM)Dt20000 Wrote:(Dec. 06, 2018 1:53 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: Except for the fact that they're OP with Bearing and that choS is replacing hS almost entirely for best 0B.Br Bey.
So?
Maybe a combo ban would be necessary, since choV will be the unburstable Stationary Attacker that can still tae on Left-Spin Beys easily and choS can be launched super hard, outspinning most Beys without Bursting. So, if anything, The Cho-Z Awakening Beys should not be allowed to use Bearing to make them revolve around more diverse combos.
RE: Should we ban: Cho-z Valkyrie,Cho-z Achilles,Cho-z Spriggan - Adam Walker - Dec. 06, 2018
If these are banned...we all might return to hS,aH,mG,Sr meta
RE: Should we ban: Cho-z Valkyrie,Cho-z Achilles,Cho-z Spriggan - GOD CHIPS - Dec. 06, 2018
I don't think these Cho Z awakening system beys should be BANNED , But , they should have their own BURST LIMITED FORMAT Tournament !!!!
RE: Should we ban: Cho-z Valkyrie,Cho-z Achilles,Cho-z Spriggan - Adam Walker - Dec. 06, 2018
(Dec. 06, 2018 10:47 AM)GOD CHIPS Wrote: I don't think these Cho Z awakening system beys should be BANNED , But , they should have their own BURST LIMITED FORMAT Tournament !!!!
Yep u have a point...but there are only 3 beys for now
It might be possible if more beys like these release in the future
RE: Should we ban: Cho-z Valkyrie,Cho-z Achilles,Cho-z Spriggan - CitrusNinja3 - Dec. 06, 2018
So, I got a Cho-Z Valkyrie last night, and it's a monster. The thing it that it's not THAT hard to activate the Burst Stoppers on the L/R Beylauncher, but it does have a decent amount of recoil. It has gotten knocked out by Dead Hades several times, both Beys in stock from. Basically, Dead Hades 0 Bump Destroy' can be a counter to these Beys. Here's an off topic recommendation I have for choV:
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RE: Should we ban: Cho-z Valkyrie,Cho-z Achilles,Cho-z Spriggan - Crumok - Dec. 06, 2018
Also, it's risky to launch super hard every match to activate the gimmick, you're bound to make a mistake or not get it to activate at all. I enjoy the risk/reward these beys offer and hope for more gimmicks like this in the future, it's a nice change and I don't think they should be banned for it.
RE: Should we ban: Cho-z Valkyrie,Cho-z Achilles,Cho-z Spriggan - Kei - Dec. 06, 2018
No. We're not going to ban every new release. I don't think we need a thread like this for parts that were released so recently, so I'm going to close this discussion.
If down the line these parts become an unhealthy presence in the metagame and there is an actual case to be made, then a topic like this would be justified. For now, feel free to post about these parts in their respective product threads or post test results in the Burst Customizations forum.