(Sep. 01, 2019  6:57 AM)Rouzuke Wrote:

(Sep. 01, 2019  2:42 AM)Dash Driver Wrote: Although Ul has more weight, you’d be better off without activating the Cho-Z awakening system on Cho-Z Valkyrie so Xtreme’ would compensate for that. Also Rouzuke probably activates the Cho-Z wings.

I got no choice lol it's still good for Spin Finishes

(Sep. 01, 2019  6:57 AM)Rouzuke Wrote:

(Sep. 01, 2019  2:42 AM)Dash Driver Wrote: Although Ul has more weight, you’d be better off without activating the Cho-Z awakening system on Cho-Z Valkyrie so Xtreme’ would compensate for that. Also Rouzuke probably activates the Cho-Z wings.

I got no choice lol it's still good for Spin Finishes

(Sep. 01, 2019  4:02 PM)DreadAqua Wrote: Now I need to figure out, how I can get my hands on the Xtreme’, please help me out.

(Sep. 01, 2019  4:13 PM)Dash Driver Wrote:

(Sep. 01, 2019  4:02 PM)DreadAqua Wrote: Now I need to figure out, how I can get my hands on the Xtreme’, please help me out.

It comes with Shadow Amaterios 0 Xtreme’. I don’t know where to find that, but it’s probably on eBay. Just so you know, it costs a lot usually.

(Sep. 01, 2019  7:37 AM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote:

(Sep. 01, 2019  6:57 AM)Rouzuke Wrote: I got no choice lol it's still good for Spin Finishes

Is choz valkyrie good on blitz octa?

(Sep. 01, 2019  3:01 PM)Dash Driver Wrote:

(Sep. 01, 2019  6:57 AM)Rouzuke Wrote: I got no choice lol it's still good for Spin Finishes

Does it have high stamina or LAD?

(Sep. 01, 2019  4:20 PM)g2_ Wrote:

(Sep. 01, 2019  4:13 PM)Dash Driver Wrote: It comes with Shadow Amaterios 0 Xtreme’. I don’t know where to find that, but it’s probably on eBay. Just so you know, it costs a lot usually.

It also comes with the yellow Dead Hades from the random booster.

(Sep. 02, 2019  4:12 AM)Armor Wrote:

(Sep. 01, 2019  4:20 PM)g2_ Wrote: It also comes with the yellow Dead Hades from the random booster.

Do you mean the green and purple one from RB15? I think the combo is dH 8'E X'

(Sep. 02, 2019  12:24 PM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote: Can cho z valkyrie be used a combo which is like a combo which is stationary, but when it hits hard or gets hit, it moves back and comes back for a small counter attack? The combo I'm having in mind is cho z valkyrie blitz weight or orbit metal (but, does this allow the 'counter attack' that I talked about?). Also, talking about it with awakened wings.

(Sep. 02, 2019  11:14 PM)DreadAqua Wrote: So now I should be using a Sting and Xtreme’ combo now?

(Sep. 02, 2019  12:24 PM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote: Can cho z valkyrie be used a combo which is like a combo which is stationary, but when it hits hard or gets hit, it moves back and comes back for a small counter attack? The combo I'm having in mind is cho z valkyrie blitz weight or orbit metal (but, does this allow the 'counter attack' that I talked about?). Also, talking about it with awakened wings.

(Sep. 02, 2019  6:39 PM)Armor Wrote:

(Sep. 02, 2019  12:24 PM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote: Can cho z valkyrie be used a combo which is like a combo which is stationary, but when it hits hard or gets hit, it moves back and comes back for a small counter attack? The combo I'm having in mind is cho z valkyrie blitz weight or orbit metal (but, does this allow the 'counter attack' that I talked about?). Also, talking about it with awakened wings.

Your combo seems to match the idea you have. I’d switch Sting in since its the same weight but better LAD. Just Blitz but upgraded here.

(Sep. 03, 2019  1:42 AM)Rouzuke Wrote:

(Sep. 02, 2019  12:24 PM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote: Can cho z valkyrie be used a combo which is like a combo which is stationary, but when it hits hard or gets hit, it moves back and comes back for a small counter attack? The combo I'm having in mind is cho z valkyrie blitz weight or orbit metal (but, does this allow the 'counter attack' that I talked about?). Also, talking about it with awakened wings.

Try Blitz and Xt+ on Defense mode then hard flat launch with a stationary launching position. If you do it right, the Wings will activate and land on its sharp tip in the middle of the stadium until another bits it and goes with a counter (think Unite without the rubber and more LAD potential)

(Sep. 03, 2019  1:29 PM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote:

(Sep. 02, 2019  6:39 PM)Armor Wrote: Your combo seems to match the idea you have. I’d switch Sting in since its the same weight but better LAD. Just Blitz but upgraded here.

But I thought blitz might provide more attack and potentially more stamina (Blitz has good OWD, but, it may be it will scrape in this combo?). I didn't care about LAD, because this would lose quite a lot of left spin combos even with sting.

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(Sep. 03, 2019  1:42 AM)Rouzuke Wrote: Try Blitz and Xt+ on Defense mode then hard flat launch with a stationary launching position. If you do it right, the Wings will activate and land on its sharp tip in the middle of the stadium until another bits it and goes with a counter (think Unite without the rubber and more LAD potential)

Isn't the defense mode too aggressive for what I'm asking? I heard it is only slightly less faster than attack mode (when the defense mode tip tilts). But, yeah, blitz xt+ does have pretty good LAD from what I have seen.
Edit: To clarify, I wasn't talking about some counter break- like move. I was just talking about a driver that allows combo to be pushed back and then let the combo come back to center for some counter attack.

(Sep. 03, 2019  2:13 PM)Armor Wrote:

(Sep. 03, 2019  1:29 PM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote: But I thought blitz might provide more attack and potentially more stamina (Blitz has good OWD, but, it may be it will scrape in this combo?). I didn't care about LAD, because this would lose quite a lot of left spin combos even with sting.

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Isn't the defense mode too aggressive for what I'm asking? I heard it is only slightly less faster than attack mode (when the defense mode tip tilts). But, yeah, blitz xt+ does have pretty good LAD from what I have seen.
Edit: To clarify, I wasn't talking about some counter break- like move. I was just talking about a driver that allows combo to be pushed back and then let the combo come back to center for some counter attack.

Does Blitz have more stamina? I have no idea.

(Sep. 03, 2019  1:29 PM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote:

(Sep. 02, 2019  6:39 PM)Armor Wrote: Your combo seems to match the idea you have. I’d switch Sting in since its the same weight but better LAD. Just Blitz but upgraded here.

But I thought blitz might provide more attack and potentially more stamina (Blitz has good OWD, but, it may be it will scrape in this combo?). I didn't care about LAD, because this would lose quite a lot of left spin combos even with sting.

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(Sep. 03, 2019  1:42 AM)Rouzuke Wrote: Try Blitz and Xt+ on Defense mode then hard flat launch with a stationary launching position. If you do it right, the Wings will activate and land on its sharp tip in the middle of the stadium until another bits it and goes with a counter (think Unite without the rubber and more LAD potential)

Isn't the defense mode too aggressive for what I'm asking? I heard it is only slightly less faster than attack mode (when the defense mode tip tilts). But, yeah, blitz xt+ does have pretty good LAD from what I have seen.
Edit: To clarify, I wasn't talking about some counter break- like move. I was just talking about a driver that allows combo to be pushed back and then let the combo come back to center for some counter attack.

(Sep. 04, 2019  1:14 AM)Rouzuke Wrote:

(Sep. 03, 2019  1:29 PM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote: But I thought blitz might provide more attack and potentially more stamina (Blitz has good OWD, but, it may be it will scrape in this combo?). I didn't care about LAD, because this would lose quite a lot of left spin combos even with sting.

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Isn't the defense mode too aggressive for what I'm asking? I heard it is only slightly less faster than attack mode (when the defense mode tip tilts). But, yeah, blitz xt+ does have pretty good LAD from what I have seen.
Edit: To clarify, I wasn't talking about some counter break- like move. I was just talking about a driver that allows combo to be pushed back and then let the combo come back to center for some counter attack.

tbh, I think a fresh Xt should be able to have the sharp tip protrude enough to make it have stamina still even on Defense mode. At least that's what I have been using.

(Sep. 05, 2019  3:18 AM)Armor Wrote:

(Sep. 04, 2019  1:14 AM)Rouzuke Wrote: tbh, I think a fresh Xt should be able to have the sharp tip protrude enough to make it have stamina still even on Defense mode. At least that's what I have been using.

My Xt+ seems to be fine in defense mode. Don't see why there would be an issue unless you had massive wear.