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How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - Jman jman - Nov. 05, 2018
How dose the 5 forge disk help burst resistance please?
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - brandbrick - Nov. 05, 2018
The shape, since parts of it go upwards, it creates Burst resistance.
Also, next time please put this in the Random Thoughts thread, this doesn’t require its own thread
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - HyperBey123 - Nov. 05, 2018
No, put it in the “I don’t understand how X part does Y” thread.
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - Jman jman - Nov. 05, 2018
(Nov. 05, 2018 3:28 AM)brandbrick Wrote: The shape, since parts of it go upwards, it creates Burst resistance.
Also, next time please put this in the Random Thoughts thread, this doesn’t require its own thread
(Nov. 05, 2018 3:29 AM)HyperBey123 Wrote: No, put it in the “I don’t understand how X part does Y” thread.
Okay Thanks.
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - MonoDragon - Nov. 05, 2018
Because compared to 7 and 10, 5 is light. Heavier Disks increase Burst resistance
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - Armor - Nov. 05, 2018
What's better: 4 or 5?
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - Dt20000 - Nov. 05, 2018
(Nov. 05, 2018 3:33 AM)MonoDragon Wrote: Because compared to 7 and 10, 5 is light. Heavier Disks increase Burst resistance
Do you mean the other way around?
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - Armor - Nov. 05, 2018
(Nov. 05, 2018 3:53 AM)Dt20000 Wrote:(Nov. 05, 2018 3:33 AM)MonoDragon Wrote: Because compared to 7 and 10, 5 is light. Heavier Disks increase Burst resistance
Do you mean the other way around?
This depends on the weight of the layer. If the layer is much lighter than the disc, then definitely use a lighter disc. If the weights are pretty similar, because Super Z can be heavier than most discs in certain cases, use a heavier disc. For example, Archer Hercules, Hell Salamander, and Revive Phoenix work better with 0 and 10, as opposed to using a single layer or dual layer with any number disc.
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - Jman jman - Nov. 05, 2018
(Nov. 05, 2018 4:23 AM)Armor Wrote:(Nov. 05, 2018 3:53 AM)Dt20000 Wrote: Do you mean the other way around?
This depends on the weight of the layer. If the layer is much lighter than the disc, then definitely use a lighter disc. If the weights are pretty similar, because Super Z can be heavier than most discs in certain cases, use a heavier disc. For example, Archer Hercules, Hell Salamander, and Revive Phoenix work better with 0 and 10, as opposed to using a single layer or dual layer with any number disc.
Okay Thanks my most favorite beyblade is Spryzen requiem s3 so is 0 or 5 better for it.
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - Dt20000 - Nov. 05, 2018
(Nov. 05, 2018 4:23 AM)Armor Wrote:(Nov. 05, 2018 3:53 AM)Dt20000 Wrote: Do you mean the other way around?
This depends on the weight of the layer. If the layer is much lighter than the disc, then definitely use a lighter disc. If the weights are pretty similar, because Super Z can be heavier than most discs in certain cases, use a heavier disc. For example, Archer Hercules, Hell Salamander, and Revive Phoenix work better with 0 and 10, as opposed to using a single layer or dual layer with any number disc.
So you want the layer to be heavier or closer to the disc’s weight?
For example, Wyvern on 12 would be better than Wyvern on 0?
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - Armor - Nov. 05, 2018
Wyvern would probably be better on 12, to be honest. The heavy weight of 0 would cause the disc and driver to keep moving while the layer is kept in place, causing it to burst faster.
(Nov. 05, 2018 4:26 AM)Jman jman Wrote:(Nov. 05, 2018 4:23 AM)Armor Wrote: This depends on the weight of the layer. If the layer is much lighter than the disc, then definitely use a lighter disc. If the weights are pretty similar, because Super Z can be heavier than most discs in certain cases, use a heavier disc. For example, Archer Hercules, Hell Salamander, and Revive Phoenix work better with 0 and 10, as opposed to using a single layer or dual layer with any number disc.
Okay Thanks my most favorite beyblade is Spryzen requiem s3 so is 0 or 5 better for it.
Definitely prefer 0. Or 7, if you have that.
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - Jman jman - Nov. 05, 2018
(Nov. 05, 2018 4:29 AM)Armor Wrote: Wyvern would probably be better on 12, to be honest. The heavy weight of 0 would cause the disc and driver to keep moving while the layer is kept in place, causing it to burst faster.Thanks for the help.
(Nov. 05, 2018 4:26 AM)Jman jman Wrote: Okay Thanks my most favorite beyblade is Spryzen requiem s3 so is 0 or 5 better for it.
Definitely prefer 0. Or 7, if you have that.
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - CitrusNinja3 - Nov. 05, 2018
(Nov. 05, 2018 4:29 AM)Armor Wrote: Wyvern would probably be better on 12, to be honest. The heavy weight of 0 would cause the disc and driver to keep moving while the layer is kept in place, causing it to burst faster.Why make Wyvron's stamina even worse? Even with 0 paired up with Bearing and Atomic, tW has horrible solo spin time. imagine how bad it is with 12!
(Nov. 05, 2018 4:26 AM)Jman jman Wrote: Okay Thanks my most favorite beyblade is Spryzen requiem s3 so is 0 or 5 better for it.
Definitely prefer 0. Or 7, if you have that.
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - Dt20000 - Nov. 05, 2018
(Nov. 05, 2018 4:36 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote:(Nov. 05, 2018 4:29 AM)Armor Wrote: Wyvern would probably be better on 12, to be honest. The heavy weight of 0 would cause the disc and driver to keep moving while the layer is kept in place, causing it to burst faster.Why make Wyvron's stamina even worse? Even with 0 paired up with Bearing and Atomic, tW has horrible solo spin time. imagine how bad it is with 12!
Definitely prefer 0. Or 7, if you have that.
I was referring to the original Wyvern, and it was a hypothetical
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - CitrusNinja3 - Nov. 05, 2018
(Nov. 05, 2018 4:39 AM)Dt20000 Wrote:(Nov. 05, 2018 4:36 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: Why make Wyvron's stamina even worse? Even with 0 paired up with Bearing and Atomic, tW has horrible solo spin time. imagine how bad it is with 12!
I was referring to the original Wyvern, and it was a hypothetical
Well, something more useful in that case would be Knuckle, Gravity, or Heavy since they were made for Single/Dual Layer Beys.
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - Dt20000 - Nov. 05, 2018
(Nov. 05, 2018 4:41 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote:(Nov. 05, 2018 4:39 AM)Dt20000 Wrote: I was referring to the original Wyvern, and it was a hypothetical
Well, something more useful in that case would be Knuckle, Gravity, or Heavy since they were made for Single/Dual Layer Beys.
Again, it was a hypothetical
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - Jman jman - Nov. 05, 2018
Thanks everyone for helping me out.
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - bblader/90 - Nov. 05, 2018
(Nov. 05, 2018 4:23 AM)Armor Wrote:(Nov. 05, 2018 3:53 AM)Dt20000 Wrote: Do you mean the other way around?
This depends on the weight of the layer. If the layer is much lighter than the disc, then definitely use a lighter disc. If the weights are pretty similar, because Super Z can be heavier than most discs in certain cases, use a heavier disc. For example, Archer Hercules, Hell Salamander, and Revive Phoenix work better with 0 and 10, as opposed to using a single layer or dual layer with any number disc.
Hi, i definitely have to say aH (no level chip) works much better on 7 than 0 cause the latest makes it burst everytime. Literally. I can't understand why, since 0 has more inward weight than 7. Btw, my 0 is the purple one who came with Shadow Amaterios while 7 is from a Hasbro's lS3. 24,09 grams against 22,78. Level chip helps in burst resistance? It adds 0,7 grams to the layer, so maybe...
PS don't know anything about 10 disc, except it's more similar to 7 than 0 with same weight of the latest.
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - MonoDragon - Nov. 05, 2018
(Nov. 05, 2018 3:53 AM)Dt20000 Wrote:(Nov. 05, 2018 3:33 AM)MonoDragon Wrote: Because compared to 7 and 10, 5 is light. Heavier Disks increase Burst resistance
Do you mean the other way around?
Whoops, you're right
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - Armor - Nov. 06, 2018
(Nov. 05, 2018 11:24 AM)bblader/90 Wrote:(Nov. 05, 2018 4:23 AM)Armor Wrote: This depends on the weight of the layer. If the layer is much lighter than the disc, then definitely use a lighter disc. If the weights are pretty similar, because Super Z can be heavier than most discs in certain cases, use a heavier disc. For example, Archer Hercules, Hell Salamander, and Revive Phoenix work better with 0 and 10, as opposed to using a single layer or dual layer with any number disc.
Hi, i definitely have to say aH (no level chip) works much better on 7 than 0 cause the latest makes it burst everytime. Literally. I can't understand why, since 0 has more inward weight than 7. Btw, my 0 is the purple one who came with Shadow Amaterios while 7 is from a Hasbro's lS3. 24,09 grams against 22,78. Level chip helps in burst resistance? It adds 0,7 grams to the layer, so maybe...
PS don't know anything about 10 disc, except it's more similar to 7 than 0 with same weight of the latest.
I disagree with the ps. 10's weight has basically been proven to be around the same weight as 0.
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - bblader/90 - Nov. 06, 2018
(Nov. 06, 2018 4:26 AM)Armor Wrote:(Nov. 05, 2018 11:24 AM)bblader/90 Wrote: Hi, i definitely have to say aH (no level chip) works much better on 7 than 0 cause the latest makes it burst everytime. Literally. I can't understand why, since 0 has more inward weight than 7. Btw, my 0 is the purple one who came with Shadow Amaterios while 7 is from a Hasbro's lS3. 24,09 grams against 22,78. Level chip helps in burst resistance? It adds 0,7 grams to the layer, so maybe...
PS don't know anything about 10 disc, except it's more similar to 7 than 0 with same weight of the latest.
I disagree with the ps. 10's weight has basically been proven to be around the same weight as 0.
Hi! Yes, 0 and 10 are both close or slightly go over to 24 grams but the latest has more outward weight distribution. That's why i said 10 is closer to 7 than 0 in this, except for about 1 gram difference.
Update: i weighed two other 7s, 23,09 and 23,29 grams respectively in addition to another 0 who came with Emperor Forneus (23,94 grams). Both 7s came with Legend Spriggan (not Spryzen).
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - Armor - Nov. 07, 2018
So you were emphasizing more on OWD rather than weight? Interesting. Also, does this mean 10 is better than 0?
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - bblader/90 - Nov. 07, 2018
(Nov. 07, 2018 8:40 PM)Armor Wrote: So you were emphasizing more on OWD rather than weight? Interesting. Also, does this mean 10 is better than 0?
Hmm, nice question. Yes and no, i mean i can't explain to myself why 0 makes my combos burst much more than 7. 0 should help with burst resistance cause its weight is focused inside the disc so it should increase defense skills overall, while 7 relies on its outward weight to increase stamina. 1 gram does make such a big difference? I only find use for 0 in combos with a defense shaped layer (Shadow Amaterios, mainly). It skips one tooth sometimes, doesn't skip at all most of the times. My stationary attack combo wV/0/Et is a disaster, sA/0/Et is very good nonetheless. So i replace 0 with 7, everytime i test wV and things improve a lot. I don't know if a level chip could help by adding its 0,7 grams. I only have one, and i don't feel like i want to risk it in a battle. wV reaches 20,25 grams with a LC, though.
I can't answer at all about 10 disc, i still have to grab a rP. I'd really love to test it, so i'll buy it soon!
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - Infinite.Zero - Nov. 07, 2018
(Nov. 07, 2018 8:40 PM)Armor Wrote: So you were emphasizing more on OWD rather than weight? Interesting. Also, does this mean 10 is better than 0?10 has better Owd then 0...but less procession.
RE: How does the 5 forge disk help burst resistance. - IronFace879 - Nov. 07, 2018
I have the feeling you're etching away from 5.