(May. 05, 2018  4:55 AM)XYZ-Jaden Wrote: Standard god chips are largely asthetic, metal god chips add extra weight to a layer, and the strike god chip (which only works with god valkyrie) adds weight and disables gV's gimmick, making it more agressive. Due to small manufacturing differences some god chips can be slightly tighter or looser than others, but this is largely random and I'd suggest mixing/matching your chips with your layers to see which fit chips fit tightest with which layers.

(May. 05, 2018  8:32 AM)ThePheonix Wrote: Precisely, The A mold is the tightest.

(Apr. 04, 2018  7:23 AM)Wombat Wrote: RE: God Chips

This is a few weeks late, but I wanted to make a companion video (though I only showed the first 10 rounds of each test to not bore viewers, it was mainly to show the procedure) to it. Also bigger projects like this take some time between planning them/actually doing them and then typing up this whole big post.

Measurements (Click to View)

• Average min height: 5.6mm (A), 5.64mm (B), 5.66mm ©, 5.65mm(non-A), 5.63mm(all)
  
• Average max height: 7.22mm (A), 7.26mm (B), 7.28mm ©, 7.27mm(non-A), 7.25mm(all)
  
• Average inner diameter: 9.6mm (A), 9.52mm (B), 9.62mm ©, 9.57mm(non-A), 9.58mm(all)
  
• Average outer diameter: 5.6mm (A), 5.64mm (B), 5.66mm ©, 5.65mm(non-A), 5.63mm(all)
  
• Average weight: 0.47g (A), 0.482g (B), 0.488g ©, 0.485g (non-A), 0.48g (all)
  
• *NOTE: these averages exclude the MGCs because they would throw off the weight, and the metal on top seems to make them slightly taller (but not in a way that would affect tightness).
  
  Interestingly enough, on average, the A# chips actually seemed to be smaller than non-A# chips - the only measurement where they were above average was the inner diameter. But that aside, there doesn't seem to be any significant correlation between production code and size. Also interesting to note that the size of the God Chip didn't really seem to have any relationship to how tight it subjectively felt in most God Layers - my bR and aC chips are both relatively small, yet bR consistently feels tight in almost every Layer while aC only feels average. Similarly, my dF and kS chips have almost the exact same dimensions (at least to the precision I could measure), yet dF feels significantly tighter than kS in almost every Layer.
  

As you can see in the video I used Guardian Kerbeus Knuckle Yielding and Victory Valkyrie Heavy Flugel as my control combos - both were balance tuned to the best of my ability (my gK doesn't balance very well with any competitive-ish Stamina setups aside from gK.8.Br, and I tried a whole bunch of V2.H/K/7.R/S/C/G/Fl setups but my only mold 3 V2 didn't balance too well with any of them). Used the Hasbro Dual Threat Launcher and B-09 Stadium, with gK always launched first, both combos were launched at around 85-90% power.

Results:

bR-Guardian Kerbeus Knuckle Yielding (tight-fitting A# chip) vs. Victory Valkyrie Heavy Flugel

Num teeth skipped per round (Click to View)

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3
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1
1
1
2
2
2
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2
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2
1
1

Average teeth skipped: 1.75

sX-Guardian Kerbeus Knuckle Yielding (loose-fitting A# chip) vs. Victory Valkyrie Heavy Flugel

Num teeth skipped per round (Click to View)

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2
2
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1
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1
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2
4

Average teeth skipped: 2.65

dC-Guardian Kerbeus Knuckle Yielding (tight-fitting non-A# chip) vs. Victory Valkyrie Heavy Flugel

Num teeth skipped per round (Click to View)

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0
2
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4
0
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1
0
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1

Average teeth skipped: 2.1

gK-Guardian Kerbeus Knuckle Yielding (loose-fitting non-A# chip) vs. Victory Valkyrie Heavy Flugel

Num teeth skipped per round (Click to View)

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4
2
2
2
1
4
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2
2
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Average teeth skipped: 2.4

So overall, it seems like the fairest conclusion to draw from this testing at least is that having a God Chip that fits tightly in your Layer is more important than having specifically an A# chip, but if you happen to have one that is both a tight fit and an A#, that one might be the best choice. This might be a little skewed however, as the chip that subjectively felt tightest on gK was A#, so I might make a part 2 later using Twin Nemesis, where my C# Ark Bahamut chip feels the tightest, to see if the A# chip would still cause it to burst less.

(May. 05, 2018  9:50 PM)Frostic Fox Wrote:

(May. 05, 2018  8:32 AM)ThePheonix Wrote: Precisely, The A mold is the tightest.

That seems to be up for debate. There was a breakdown that showed that perhaps it's just that certain chips are a certain shape, that having A# in particular wasn't necessarily the best. A# chips can also be loose and looser than other chips.

Very interesting read here:

(Apr. 04, 2018  7:23 AM)Wombat Wrote: RE: God Chips

This is a few weeks late, but I wanted to make a companion video (though I only showed the first 10 rounds of each test to not bore viewers, it was mainly to show the procedure) to it. Also bigger projects like this take some time between planning them/actually doing them and then typing up this whole big post.

Measurements (Click to View)

• Average min height: 5.6mm (A), 5.64mm (B), 5.66mm ©, 5.65mm(non-A), 5.63mm(all)
  
• Average max height: 7.22mm (A), 7.26mm (B), 7.28mm ©, 7.27mm(non-A), 7.25mm(all)
  
• Average inner diameter: 9.6mm (A), 9.52mm (B), 9.62mm ©, 9.57mm(non-A), 9.58mm(all)
  
• Average outer diameter: 5.6mm (A), 5.64mm (B), 5.66mm ©, 5.65mm(non-A), 5.63mm(all)
  
• Average weight: 0.47g (A), 0.482g (B), 0.488g ©, 0.485g (non-A), 0.48g (all)
  
• *NOTE: these averages exclude the MGCs because they would throw off the weight, and the metal on top seems to make them slightly taller (but not in a way that would affect tightness).
  
  Interestingly enough, on average, the A# chips actually seemed to be smaller than non-A# chips - the only measurement where they were above average was the inner diameter. But that aside, there doesn't seem to be any significant correlation between production code and size. Also interesting to note that the size of the God Chip didn't really seem to have any relationship to how tight it subjectively felt in most God Layers - my bR and aC chips are both relatively small, yet bR consistently feels tight in almost every Layer while aC only feels average. Similarly, my dF and kS chips have almost the exact same dimensions (at least to the precision I could measure), yet dF feels significantly tighter than kS in almost every Layer.
  

As you can see in the video I used Guardian Kerbeus Knuckle Yielding and Victory Valkyrie Heavy Flugel as my control combos - both were balance tuned to the best of my ability (my gK doesn't balance very well with any competitive-ish Stamina setups aside from gK.8.Br, and I tried a whole bunch of V2.H/K/7.R/S/C/G/Fl setups but my only mold 3 V2 didn't balance too well with any of them). Used the Hasbro Dual Threat Launcher and B-09 Stadium, with gK always launched first, both combos were launched at around 85-90% power.

Results:

bR-Guardian Kerbeus Knuckle Yielding (tight-fitting A# chip) vs. Victory Valkyrie Heavy Flugel

Num teeth skipped per round (Click to View)

1
2
3
1
1
1
1
2
2
2
1
2
1
4
1
4
2
2
1
1

Average teeth skipped: 1.75

sX-Guardian Kerbeus Knuckle Yielding (loose-fitting A# chip) vs. Victory Valkyrie Heavy Flugel

Num teeth skipped per round (Click to View)

2
2
2
2
1
4
4
1
4
4
4
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3
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1
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4

Average teeth skipped: 2.65

dC-Guardian Kerbeus Knuckle Yielding (tight-fitting non-A# chip) vs. Victory Valkyrie Heavy Flugel

Num teeth skipped per round (Click to View)

2
4
0
2
1
4
4
0
4
1
0
1
4
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1
4
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2
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1

Average teeth skipped: 2.1

gK-Guardian Kerbeus Knuckle Yielding (loose-fitting non-A# chip) vs. Victory Valkyrie Heavy Flugel

Num teeth skipped per round (Click to View)

2
2
4
2
2
2
1
4
2
2
4
2
2
1
2
2
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1
2
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Average teeth skipped: 2.4

So overall, it seems like the fairest conclusion to draw from this testing at least is that having a God Chip that fits tightly in your Layer is more important than having specifically an A# chip, but if you happen to have one that is both a tight fit and an A#, that one might be the best choice. This might be a little skewed however, as the chip that subjectively felt tightest on gK was A#, so I might make a part 2 later using Twin Nemesis, where my C# Ark Bahamut chip feels the tightest, to see if the A# chip would still cause it to burst less.

(May. 06, 2018  6:48 AM)ThePheonix Wrote: This is also because of the spring strength (of the driver) that determines the tightness like for some people, their Orbits have tight springs (in some molds) and testing has shown that if you keep your parts desembled then the springs will conserve their tightness... (I can't find the thread so I didn't quote it but I'll see if I can find it then I'll add that...)

(May. 06, 2018  7:06 AM)Frostic Fox Wrote:

(May. 06, 2018  6:48 AM)ThePheonix Wrote: This is also because of the spring strength (of the driver) that determines the tightness like for some people, their Orbits have tight springs (in some molds) and testing has shown that if you keep your parts desembled then the springs will conserve their tightness... (I can't find the thread so I didn't quote it but I'll see if I can find it then I'll add that...)

Drivers are a separate factor worth considering, yes. Each part plays a role in the tightness.

I am not aware of anyone else testing if assembling parts weakens the springs. I saw claims of it and did testing myself, and my results saw no discernable difference. Signs seem to more strongly point to inconsistencies in releases, from what I saw.

(May. 06, 2018  7:11 AM)ThePheonix Wrote: Well I lost my Trans for a while and the springs stayed strong if not became stronger...

(May. 06, 2018  8:38 AM)Clfjmpr Wrote: Boy, did I open a flood gate or what? Anyways, I got the answer I was looking for but I have a new one. If the god chip is loose, is there a way to keep it secure it without having to modify with an adhesive. I know that's cheating, but it just seems too loose for my liking. Finally, as I have been learning the tournament rules, I noticed that for garuda the god chip ruling. How does the god chip effect it differently from the others?

(May. 06, 2018  8:38 AM)Clfjmpr Wrote: If the god chip is loose, is there a way to keep it secure it without having to modify with an adhesive. I know that's cheating, but it just seems too loose for my liking.