(Oct. 29, 2017  7:11 PM)dt1000 Wrote: If its Hasbro, instead buy the Apex Attack Set. It gets you v2, triple, extreme, variable, unite, and impact.

If its takara-tomy, get Sieg Xcalibur.

(Oct. 29, 2017  7:44 PM)aggregor941 Wrote:

(Oct. 29, 2017  7:11 PM)dt1000 Wrote: If its Hasbro, instead buy the Apex Attack Set. It gets you v2, triple, extreme, variable, unite, and impact.

If its takara-tomy, get Sieg Xcalibur.

But does not include X2

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Plus it's Target exclusive, and I live in Catalonia

(Oct. 29, 2017  7:46 PM)DaJetsnake Wrote:

(Oct. 29, 2017  7:44 PM)aggregor941 Wrote: But does not include X2

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Plus it's Target exclusive, and I live in Catalonia

Then get Sieg Xcalibur

(Oct. 29, 2017  7:57 PM)aggregor941 Wrote:

(Oct. 29, 2017  7:46 PM)DaJetsnake Wrote: Then get Sieg Xcalibur

But I don't want TT beys since non-compatibility with has pieces, :( IDK

(Oct. 29, 2017  9:35 PM)aggregor941 Wrote: IDK man, I think I'll wait till Has releases Sieg Xcalius, but thank you anyway, I'll consider

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Also, all Sieg Xcalibur from ebay arrive to my town past December 20th

(Oct. 29, 2017  10:04 PM)DaJetsnake Wrote:

(Oct. 29, 2017  9:35 PM)aggregor941 Wrote: IDK man, I think I'll wait till Has releases Sieg Xcalius, but thank you anyway, I'll consider

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Also, all Sieg Xcalibur from ebay arrive to my town past December 20th

try amazon

(Oct. 29, 2017  11:38 PM)Zeutron Wrote: honestly xeno xcalius is bad in terms of competitive parts despite the good teeth the layer has terrible defense and stamina and its cons outweigh its pros however alot of people favor using x2 in terms of speed aswell but at the same time the layer takes quite a bit of recoil x2 is like k2 in a sense that it has good teeth but a bad layer design. as for magnum its use vary's on the combo but there currently have been no combos found for it so its uses are rather limited but it isn't that bad of a disc. now for impact impact is probably the worst attack driver there is it almost has no benefits. Due to the combination of plastic and rubber the spin velocity is uncontrollable and as a result it has one of the lowest spin times a driver can have and because of this same reason making any kind of competitive launch pattern wont work with impact due to the plastics stubbornness and for these reasons impact is a horrible driver you are quit better off buying the raging rocktavor and xcalius 2 pack lots of competitive parts in there

(Oct. 30, 2017  2:03 AM)dt1000 Wrote: Magnum has good synergy with Valkyrie like triple. People think Hold is great, but Impact is faster and has better grip and more stamina.

(Oct. 30, 2017  2:03 AM)dt1000 Wrote:

(Oct. 29, 2017  11:38 PM)Zeutron Wrote: honestly xeno xcalius is bad in terms of competitive parts despite the good teeth the layer has terrible defense and stamina and its cons outweigh its pros however alot of people favor using x2 in terms of speed aswell but at the same time the layer takes quite a bit of recoil x2 is like k2 in a sense that it has good teeth but a bad layer design. as for magnum its use vary's on the combo but there currently have been no combos found for it so its uses are rather limited but it isn't that bad of a disc. now for impact impact is probably the worst attack driver there is it almost has no benefits. Due to the combination of plastic and rubber the spin velocity is uncontrollable and as a result it has one of the lowest spin times a driver can have and because of this same reason making any kind of competitive launch pattern wont work with impact due to the plastics stubbornness and for these reasons impact is  a horrible driver you are quit better off buying the raging rocktavor and xcalius 2 pack lots of competitive parts in there

Magnum has good synergy with Valkyrie like triple. People think Hold is great, but Impact is faster and has better grip and more stamina.

(Oct. 30, 2017  2:05 AM)MonoDragon Wrote:

(Oct. 30, 2017  2:03 AM)dt1000 Wrote: Magnum has good synergy with Valkyrie like triple. People think Hold is great, but Impact is faster and has better grip and more stamina.

Your Hold must be really loose then. Pretty much everyone else has a Hold that will go mad

Magnum is only good with Valkyrie, because it's mostly plastic it doesn't work well with anything else

(Oct. 30, 2017  2:25 AM)dt1000 Wrote:

(Oct. 30, 2017  2:05 AM)MonoDragon Wrote: Your Hold must be really loose then. Pretty much everyone else has a Hold that will go mad

Magnum is only good with Valkyrie, because it's mostly plastic it doesn't work well with anything else

My hold isn't that loose, it zooms around the stadium very fast and then after 2-3 seconds, it slows down completely. Impact can keep its speed for much longer.

(Oct. 30, 2017  2:25 AM)dt1000 Wrote:

(Oct. 30, 2017  2:05 AM)MonoDragon Wrote: Your Hold must be really loose then. Pretty much everyone else has a Hold that will go mad

Magnum is only good with Valkyrie, because it's mostly plastic it doesn't work well with anything else

My hold isn't that loose, it zooms around the stadium very fast and then after 2-3 seconds, it slows down completely. Impact can keep its speed for much longer.

(Oct. 30, 2017  2:28 AM)Suzaku-X Wrote:

(Oct. 30, 2017  2:25 AM)dt1000 Wrote: My hold isn't that loose, it zooms around the stadium very fast and then after 2-3 seconds, it slows down completely. Impact can keep its speed for much longer.

Hold is usually very loose, and is usually a better choice. Impact is near uncontrollable and has very prominent stamina issues. Magnum is mediocre, and X2 is as well. Xcalius is better in every way.

(Oct. 30, 2017  2:25 AM)dt1000 Wrote:

(Oct. 30, 2017  2:05 AM)MonoDragon Wrote: Your Hold must be really loose then. Pretty much everyone else has a Hold that will go mad

Magnum is only good with Valkyrie, because it's mostly plastic it doesn't work well with anything else

My hold isn't that loose, it zooms around the stadium very fast and then after 2-3 seconds, it slows down completely. Impact can keep its speed for much longer.

(Oct. 30, 2017  2:31 AM)Mage Wrote:

(Oct. 30, 2017  2:25 AM)dt1000 Wrote: My hold isn't that loose, it zooms around the stadium very fast and then after 2-3 seconds, it slows down completely. Impact can keep its speed for much longer.

If you launch hard enough Hold will accelerate around the tornado ridge, go beyond the ridge and hit the wall, speed towards the middle, stall for a sec around the center, accelerate to the ridge again, and if your launch was hard enough it'll be able to bounce off the wall again.
What stadium are you using again?

(Oct. 30, 2017  2:22 AM)Mage Wrote:

(Oct. 30, 2017  2:03 AM)dt1000 Wrote: Magnum has good synergy with Valkyrie like triple. People think Hold is great, but Impact is faster and has better grip and more stamina.

Concurring with Mono, your experience with Hold must be different from what others have experienced. Hold goes at about the same speed as Impact on the tornado ridge but Hold can keep its speed and accelerate further while Impact just kinda dies in terms of stamina. The amount of plastic to rubber is very disproportionate as the rubber doesn't make much contact at all and the constant content between the spaces causes it to waste it's stamina. Magnum, while able to line up with layers with 3 attack points, is completely useless. The plastic has literally no benefits other than making the bey lighter which can be bad for an attack type because it won't deal blows heavy enough.

(Oct. 30, 2017  2:34 AM)dt1000 Wrote:

(Oct. 30, 2017  2:31 AM)Mage Wrote: If you launch hard enough Hold will accelerate around the tornado ridge, go beyond the ridge and hit the wall, speed towards the middle, stall for a sec around the center, accelerate to the ridge again, and if your launch was hard enough it'll be able to bounce off the wall again.
What stadium are you using again?

Oh. I just now realize my stadium's size might have caused that. Or the long ridges extending from the middle. Or the spike in the center.

(Oct. 30, 2017  2:39 AM)Mage Wrote:

(Oct. 30, 2017  2:34 AM)dt1000 Wrote: Oh. I just now realize my stadium's size might have caused that. Or the long ridges extending from the middle. Or the spike in the center.

Wait, spike?