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[split] Going Away/Coming Back Topic - ClaraM - Feb. 18, 2016
It is with sadness and regret that I must announce I will be leaving the WBO. Recent events have made it clear to me that, whatever the original intention of the site to be, a fun place for Bladers to connect and share ideas and opinions is no longer what the WBO is. I have witnessed, for many months now, bullying and harassment of members with many of those members (whom I shall list by name should the committee allow it, though I doubt that) being able to break rules and act completely according to their own whims resulting in many new or unexperienced members feeling bullied and many of them deciding to leave because of it. This community is toxic, and it is toxic because of not only the members who choose to bully others but because of the committee who allow it to happen some of which have even taken part in the bullying themselves.
Many times, the committee say to us that this place is a forum for all who enjoy beyblade and we should be happy to post our thoughts and opinions but I have found the opposite to be true. Members being scared to post because they are being singled out by other "bully members" that will do anything to rip them to shreds, moderators admitting that they'd like to ban certain members purely for being friends with a member they don't agree with and a committee that doesn't care and will do anything to make excuses for said members. We have all seen instances of a certain member bullying and degrading others and that one member always gets away with it. I have also witnessed this one member looking up personal information on a member they didn’t like and encouraging a hate mob to do the same. Simply because they didn’t like them. That member got away with this behaviour and will probably continue to do so unfortunately, the committee was all too happy to make excuses for them.
There are moderators of this forum who will knowingly bend and break rules for certain people because they are their friends IRL. These people are the same people who will come down hard on anyone else who is to make the same mistake or break the same rule, should you not be their friend.
It’s not just me. Many other other members and I have noticed it for months now and discussed it at length before I decided to leave. Their quotes to me are as follows;
「This community was great before elitists got opportunities to become moderators and turned the greatness of this website to a secluded wasteland of advanced bullies who think they know every single caveat the beyblade world has to offer. It's also heartbreaking of how some of our best members became propaganda tyrants because of one persons decisions and words.」
「It's rather bizarre how we choose who is right and who is wrong. I'm aware that the
committee is the spot of protection and of course maintainece on the site. The illusion
that the committee is remotely concerned with any user is nothing more than a vision
of false hope. Seeing how they all act and how they will give a blind mans eye on any
if not every thing that goes on. They obviously play favoritism on a scale where if you
are less than 99% of their liking. Consider yourself an immediate target, not only that
but any post you make, any topic you're a part of consider it insignificant and not worth
their time.
You can post tests here as well, don't expect to hear any kind of possitive feed back
since those reading won't do tests themselves and will completely 'justify' why your
combinations aren't of value at all. With opinion instead of footage of them performing
their own tests as well.Since footage can be more accurate then statisitcs, you have to see
it to believe it. Here are constant cases of where there isn't actual positive feedback on
tests, unless you're of the positive few... Otherwise expect nothing but negativity.
The committee has been known for actually plotting and or convincing users to leave the
site completely and or having a 'justified' reason to get rid of them, upon reflection on
a number of these users. They all seem to source from off-forum. Where anyone who has
been part of a more managable forum community, are more than aware that off-forum
planning leaks into the community, these leaks not only makes certain members look black
and white. Not only questioning there morals and motives. That's terrible, however when
the committee is exposed to actually be part of these events and or are aware of these
events and act as if it doesn't matter. That's an exposure of a weak committee, since
not only are they to immature to take on a situation that they themselves are aware of
but they are also allowing those apart of these schemes get away with it completely.
Which means if you're off forum and plot against anyone, it's perfectly fine. Sometimes
even with the support of the committe. Which again, is perfectly fine. None of them
are willing to be a face of assistance. They may seem helpful but don't count your
luck, members have asked for reform as well as assistance but it is discovered that it
doesn't exist.
Why feel protected when those who are in the seat don't care? You want to know how the forum
is doing? We'll tell you but you're all expendable, you're all insignifcant. As painful
as that sounds it's true. If you have a talent and or money, consider yourself a 'temporary'
member. Either you donate your money or provide a certain language. Unless you're benefitting
the personal needs of the site. Then you're safe...
Spam and vague is bad yes... Though how do you put that on the same scale as hurassment,
cyber bullying,plotting, as well invasion of personal information? I would like to know
in which world where spam is the death penelty and those are the requirements of a hero?
This an example of a former and the currents, another is a positive speaker, though
exhausting against nearly the entire community...Why is the positive speaker the one
who felt the hand of isolation and comforted by another 'negative' while the other
is still again, free from condemning?
Some people can do slightly worse then others or in most cases do the same EXACT thing,
only difference is. One of them seen the belly of the committee and completely stood
against them which made them unliked by many, while the other was an appeaser and he
is again heavily unliked but the line is drawn but one thing, an agenda.
This is a beyblade forum, why is there censorships of usernames? Why is there a corrupt
source of power? Why is there isn't there a face of protection in the committee? All of these
questions aren't theoretical. These won't be answered and they will be heavily evaded.
Prepare to be used if there is something of 'value' on you, other wise. Prepare for the
ban hammer, we're all expendable for the wrong reasons here.
W.B.O stands for World Beyblade organization...W.o.r.l.d
The lack of that is astonishing,shouldn't it be about assisting and building up an active
communitity towards other places besides Canada and currently Japan...When U.S,U.K and
oh boy even india get's brought into the discussion, it seems to become critically
xenophobic, it isn't right and it heavily goes against the sites name in general.
The duty of the site is to bring the world in, we all seem to find a way to divide it into
sub-cultures and when the chance of an ACTUAL world event comes, the xenophobic syndome
is astonishing and it comes from the canadian atmoshphere. Upon research as well as a
unified member base has uncovered that the committee has done what ever they could to
prevent an actual world event purposely keeping the U.S and U.K WBO members at a distance.
Not only enforcing the bigger perspective of the level of activity on both areas but it
also builds up that the committee has the final say, they feed you empty words before they
give you concern.
While on the topic of world, some users...Sometimes in a green name or not, have gotten away
with racial slurs and or offensive discussions. While not only this but the illusion of
cultural differences has been rather touchy, touchy since this is a big community with
people of different cultures, there is a grand level of disrespect and 9/10 it's the
pro-committee members who actually get away with this, there is no attempt at subtly or
even apologies made. Why is that? Guess it's fine since it's been going on for a while
guess international sensitivity is fine.」
Please note that these claims are not mine, they are quotes from people I have discussed this issue in length with and have used their opinions as a reference .
Whilst some (well, most) will attack the legitimacy of these claims I can 100% say with certainty that I have seen this up close and personal. We not only have evidence of said bullying but we have evidence too of the moderators indifference to it all and one of the mods wanting to get involved in it themselves. An organisation run primarily by its fans and supporters as the WBO mainly is will only ever be as good as it’s members. With the most active and highest socially ranked members being nothing but bullies and elitists there is nowhere for the organisation to go but downwards. I know full well that this post will be deleted in haste and / or get me into a huge amount of trouble but the only reason for that is because it speaks the truth no one is allowed to acknowledge. I will still be around to answer PMs and to keep an eye on the Japanese forum because that is a project I think could go somewhere good. But with the WBO as it stands I won’t be associated with it and know I’m not the last person that will end up doing this.
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - Kai-V - Feb. 18, 2016
Mind telling people that you also banned two Members out of the blue for posts that were really not bullying ? You made claims about Meta madness being the subject of a conspiracy and showed me screenshots but I honestly could not see any such conspiracy, otherwise of course I would have acted upon it. And now, with the two Members you banned and that we had to unban, you claim that their posts in one topic were them acting as bullies ? Even if they had conspired to reply in that customization thread, there was no harsh attitude at all in their messages and the content was completely correct anyway. I cannot imagine that the Member who started the topic was completely destroyed by their replies.
Everything you and the people you are quoting are seeing is such fantasy, this is extremely ridiculous. There are no conspiracies at all in the Committee or in the staff and everything the organisation stands for is totally preserved. I think you have no idea ?
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - Mitsu - Feb. 18, 2016
Quote:W.B.O stands for World Beyblade organization...W.o.r.l.d
The lack of that is astonishing,shouldn't it be about assisting and building up an active
communitity towards other places besides Canada and currently Japan...When U.S,U.K and
oh boy even india get's brought into the discussion, it seems to become critically
xenophobic, it isn't right and it heavily goes against the sites name in general.
The duty of the site is to bring the world in, we all seem to find a way to divide it into
sub-cultures and when the chance of an ACTUAL world event comes, the xenophobic syndome
is astonishing and it comes from the canadian atmoshphere. Upon research as well as a
unified member base has uncovered that the committee has done what ever they could to
prevent an actual world event purposely keeping the U.S and U.K WBO members at a distance.
Not only enforcing the bigger perspective of the level of activity on both areas but it
also builds up that the committee has the final say, they feed you empty words before they
give you concern.
To chime in; tournaments are entirely fan-run, and this has always been the case. A lot of our active members do seem to come from where tournaments are run most consistently and we cannot, by any means, force hosting on a member.
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - Kai-V - Feb. 18, 2016
Oh and about that US x UK event, yo, you still believe Meta madness has millions of dollars in his accounts hah ? Of course we blocked that event from happening because there was no way these numbers were true. Trusting someone to pay and bring Members from one country to the other across the ocean is something huge, we need solid evidence and Meta madness did not provide anything reliable at all.
[split] Going Away/Coming Back Topic - RagerBlade - Feb. 18, 2016
If you're talking about Meta's "idea", than I'm pretty sure you missed the point that he never had the money to actually hold that event. You seem like your trying to start an internal conflict between the organization because we've never had huge problems where the members absolutely hate the committee.
Yeah and I'm back
. Still pretty sick but I really wanted to check my favorite websites out. I'm not well yet, but hopefully I'll be better in the next couple of weeks.
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - Kai-V - Feb. 18, 2016
(Feb. 18, 2016 12:59 AM)RagerBlade Wrote: Yeah and I'm back
Yo it has been eleven days, are you sure that is normal hah ?
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - RagerBlade - Feb. 18, 2016
(Feb. 18, 2016 1:04 AM)Kai-V Wrote:It's not a minor sickness haha. Family told me it's not best to go around telling everyone about it for privacy concerns lol. Hopefully I can stay active now.(Feb. 18, 2016 12:59 AM)RagerBlade Wrote: Yeah and I'm back
Yo it has been eleven days, are you sure that is normal hah ?
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - Kai-V - Feb. 18, 2016
Ahahah OK, I thought it was a simple cold. Good if you are getting better though.
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - Cookie Bouquets - Feb. 18, 2016
(Feb. 18, 2016 12:56 AM)Kai-V Wrote: Oh and about that US x UK event, yo, you still believe Meta madness has millions of dollars in his accounts hah ? Of course we blocked that event from happening because there was no way these numbers were true. Trusting someone to pay and bring Members from one country to the other across the ocean is something huge, we need solid evidence and Meta madness did not provide anything reliable at all.
In my shoes, I would've blocked the event regardless, due to the nature of his rather useless and awful posts that contributed to no one - he was just doing it to spite the committee, which he has expressed himself in a 3rd party source.
On top of that,
Quote:"You can post tests here as well, don't expect to hear any kind of possitive feed back since those reading won't do tests themselves and will completely 'justify' why your
combinations aren't of value at all. "
If your combo does bad against top tier combos, why would you want to hear anything good and supportive of it? I hate to admit, but this isn't the internet's global hug box, so you can't expect everyone to be 100 percent supportive of your contributions, whether good, or bad.
Quote:"The committee has been known for actually plotting and or convincing users to leave the
site completely and or having a 'justified' reason to get rid of them, upon reflection on
a number of these users. They all seem to source from off-forum."
Once again, if you're referring to Meta Madness, we GAVE him plenty of attempts to fix his ways, expressing his love for posting literal garbage, and wanted to waste not only the committee, but everyone else's time.
Quote:"Spam and vague is bad yes... Though how do you put that on the same scale as hurassment,
cyber bullying,plotting, as well invasion of personal information? I would like to know
in which world where spam is the death penelty and those are the requirements of a hero?"
It hurts forum culture when all you see is "get shrekt m8" in every page of every thread on every subforum. Sure, it's not on the same level as invading privacy or imposing death threats, but we, and every other forum has NO TIME for trolling, and I learned that the hard way within my first couple of posts.
Quote:"This is a beyblade forum, why is there censorships of usernames? Why is there a corrupt
source of power? Why is there isn't there a face of protection in the committee? All of these
questions aren't theoretical. These won't be answered and they will be heavily evaded."
"Corrupt source of power" when you go ahead and leak things in a locked forum to members, if anything you're bringing the corrupt source of power. "Why isn't there a face of protection in the committee?" Well look, I have no problem with taking a warning, but when you outright ban 2 members without even leaving a mod notice? Sure, you can sidestep and say you're inexperienced, but that only shows that you are unqualified for taking a position in moderation.
Your quotes make it seem like the committee is some big bad source of evil, which I thought we were clear of since 2012, because no one is complaining about the committee being too "strict" anymore. It more or less seems like members are pushing them around, because they seem pretty lax with everyone, and when they come in with good, beneficial idea or tournament, they get absolutely attacked for, as seen in the beywiki/Beyblade Wiki merge, and as seen in some parts of the Montreal Community. It's like you don't give them enough credit, sheesh.
Quote:W.B.O stands for World Beyblade organization...W.o.r.l.d
The lack of that is astonishing,shouldn't it be about assisting and building up an active
communitity towards other places besides Canada and currently Japan...When U.S,U.K and
oh boy even india get's brought into the discussion, it seems to become critically
xenophobic, it isn't right and it heavily goes against the sites name in general.
The duty of the site is to bring the world in, we all seem to find a way to divide it into
sub-cultures and when the chance of an ACTUAL world event comes, the xenophobic syndome
is astonishing and it comes from the canadian atmoshphere. Upon research as well as a
unified member base has uncovered that the committee has done what ever they could to
prevent an actual world event purposely keeping the U.S and U.K WBO members at a distance.
Not only enforcing the bigger perspective of the level of activity on both areas but it
also builds up that the committee has the final say, they feed you empty words before they
give you concern.
As to say that the WBO is xenophobic is silly and idiotic in its own right. We had a tournament in Germany not too long ago. Tournaments in India are a thing. Tournaments in the U.K. are a thing. WBO x Waribey is going to be a thing. Not only that, if you look in the event archives, you'll find tournaments spread EVERYWHERE. As Mitsu said, the tournaments are fan run, you can't FORCE someone to host a tournament were there is low interest. You said yourself that you wanted a discussion on these issues, so here it is.
But hey, my opinions are to be discarded as I'm friends with committee members and other moderators on this forum.
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - LOL-y Rancher - Feb. 18, 2016
(Feb. 18, 2016 1:59 AM)Shirayuki Wrote:Quote:"This is a beyblade forum, why is there censorships of usernames? Why is there a corrupt
source of power? Why is there isn't there a face of protection in the committee? All of these
questions aren't theoretical. These won't be answered and they will be heavily evaded."
"Corrupt source of power" when you go ahead and leak things in a locked forum to members, if anything you're bringing the corrupt source of power. "Why isn't there a face of protection in the committee?" Well look, I have no problem with taking a warning, but when you outright ban 2 members without even leaving a mod notice? Sure, you can sidestep and say you're inexperienced, but that only shows that you are unqualified for taking a position in moderation.
Your quotes make it seem like the committee is some big bad source of evil, which I thought we were clear of since 2012, because no one is complaining about the committee being too "strict" anymore. It more or less seems like members are pushing them around, because they seem pretty lax with everyone, and when they come in with good, beneficial idea or tournament, they get absolutely attacked for, as seen in the beywiki/Beyblade Wiki merge, and as seen in some parts of the Montreal Community. It's like you don't give them enough credit, sheesh.
No offense dude but she never really said or remotely mentioned the line I just bolded.
Also, I just want to point out why people are still bringing up Meta madness? I mean she never really remotely mentioned him once and I think it's best to drop the Meta madness subject because he is gone.
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - Kai-V - Feb. 18, 2016
We are bringing up Meta madness because ClaraM supports him and brought up the subject of his USxUK event proposal again ...
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - MiddayOBWL - Feb. 18, 2016
(Feb. 18, 2016 2:46 AM)Momohimi Wrote:(Feb. 18, 2016 1:59 AM)Shirayuki Wrote:Quote:"This is a beyblade forum, why is there censorships of usernames? Why is there a corrupt
source of power? Why is there isn't there a face of protection in the committee? All of these
questions aren't theoretical. These won't be answered and they will be heavily evaded."
"Corrupt source of power" when you go ahead and leak things in a locked forum to members, if anything you're bringing the corrupt source of power. "Why isn't there a face of protection in the committee?" Well look, I have no problem with taking a warning, but when you outright ban 2 members without even leaving a mod notice? Sure, you can sidestep and say you're inexperienced, but that only shows that you are unqualified for taking a position in moderation.
Your quotes make it seem like the committee is some big bad source of evil, which I thought we were clear of since 2012, because no one is complaining about the committee being too "strict" anymore. It more or less seems like members are pushing them around, because they seem pretty lax with everyone, and when they come in with good, beneficial idea or tournament, they get absolutely attacked for, as seen in the beywiki/Beyblade Wiki merge, and as seen in some parts of the Montreal Community. It's like you don't give them enough credit, sheesh.
No offense dude but she never really said or remotely mentioned the line I just bolded.
Also, I just want to point out why people are still bringing up Meta madness? I mean she never really remotely mentioned him once and I think it's best to drop the Meta madness subject because he is gone.
"The lack of that is astonishing,shouldn't it be about assisting and building up an active
communitity towards other places besides Canada and currently Japan...When U.S,U.K and
oh boy even india get's brought into the discussion, it seems to become critically
xenophobic, it isn't right and it heavily goes against the sites name in general.
The duty of the site is to bring the world in, we all seem to find a way to divide it into
sub-cultures and when the chance of an ACTUAL world event comes, the xenophobic syndome
is astonishing and it comes from the canadian atmoshphere. Upon research as well as a
unified member base has uncovered that the committee has done what ever they could to
prevent an actual world event purposely keeping the U.S and U.K WBO members at a distance.
Not only enforcing the bigger perspective of the level of activity on both areas but it
also builds up that the committee has the final say, they feed you empty words before they
give you concern."
That's obviously referring to meta madness's unrealistic US x UK event. But I agree, I think we should drop the meta madness subject now.
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - Bey Brad - Feb. 18, 2016
^ As if the written feedback wasn't so obviously written in his style, there's also the fact that he's the one who proposed the US x UK event that was explicitly referenced.
Wow, this is all really shocking and unfortunate to read. Especially since I was really happy to see you were working on the Japanese forum project (actually, I'm the one who recommended you, since you had expressed interest in translation to me before) and your activity in the London community, so I was hoping we could do more work together. Obviously you don't feel the same.
It was plainly obvious that Meta's event was a sham. He doesn't have the money, and he submitted an event proposal with no details whatsoever. We held him to the same standard that we would hold anyone proposing such a gigantic event to. We invited him to submit an updated proposal with more information. He declined to. Probably he knew we would reject the obviously unserious proposal so he could use it against us later ... like now.
There's no conspiracy against our London community. We love the London community and I'm so grateful to the efforts of everyone within it. If any of you feels like you're not getting something from us that you should, please let us know.
And, I think, if you can't trust an individual on the Committee — me, for instance — you can look to the rest of the team members and see that it's a list of really great, kind people. If we were doing something so awful, I would hope one of them would call us out on it. But we're not. We don't get anything out of doing this. We do it because we think Beyblade is sick and many of us have felt that way for like half our lives. And so many of us have met so many amazing friends and had great experiences and we want to give that experience to others, too.
None of us are perfect and none of us get everything right 100% of the time. But if you think something doesn't seem right, please, write to one of us about it. If you don't feel like that's going anywhere, then post about it here, like Clara did. But at least be reasonable with us and don't assume the worst intentions, because we have literally nothing to gain from it.
As for bullying, I don't really think that there are any bullies here right now. I think sometimes people don't always write in the best tone, and I hope that's something people keep in mind! But if you think there's a consistent pattern of bullying, report their posts and/or write to one of us.
All I see here is a member who's constantly wanted to stir up trouble with the WBO still managing to do it after being banned. Unfortunately, he's pulled in a lot of innocent people through his lies.
What does anyone here think is more likely: that there is a vast conspiracy among a bunch of nerdy adults that run a fansite for one of their lifelong passions, or that there is a troll on an internet message board who thinks it'd be fun to mess with them?
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - Sıon - Feb. 18, 2016
(Feb. 18, 2016 2:53 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: As for bullying, I don't really think that there are any bullies here right now. I think sometimes people don't always write in the best tone, and I hope that's something people keep in mind! But if you think there's a consistent pattern of bullying, report their posts and/or write to one of us.
All I see here is a member who's constantly wanted to stir up trouble with the WBO still managing to do it after being banned. Unfortunately, he's pulled in a lot of innocent people through his lies.
I would politely disagree with your statement of minimal harassment. I admit my reply to odin's ban was a little impolite, but this is what grabbed my eye:
http://xxsionthehedgehogxx.deviantart.com/art/Photo-20160207-111008-591502679
I want to know what this was for, and why you would still chase after the tail of a wolf that went to another pack. I did say I was going to quit, but trying to get the last laugh when I just wanted to leave things be after sharing my opinion was heresy.
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - Bey Brad - Feb. 18, 2016
I wasn't trying to get the last laugh. I posted that reply after I moved it to the Deleted Posts forum, and all it means is that I didn't understand what you said at all (and you later said yourself that the comparison you made was odd).
It's a shame that Clara would share stuff from a moderator-only forum with no context, but if you were really hurt by that, I'm very sorry. I didn't mean anything more by it than exactly what the comic itself implies: complete confusion.
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - Sıon - Feb. 18, 2016
(Feb. 18, 2016 4:05 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: I wasn't trying to get the last laugh. I posted that reply after I moved it to the Deleted Posts forum, and all it means is that I didn't understand what you said at all (and you later said yourself that the comparison you made was odd).
It's a shame that Clara would share stuff from a moderator-only forum with no context, but if you were really hurt by that, I'm very sorry. I didn't mean anything more by it than exactly what the comic itself implies: complete confusion.
Hmm
.. okay.
First off, don't you dare touch clara, she us a good soul with good intent.
Second, explain why on that page, almost EVERY ban was delivered by you (yes, with rather hilarious reasons. Maybe you should me come a comedian for a future career?). Brad, as for bullying, I can't remember namez, but clara was down correct in saying my combos weren't given a chance. Still think Duo D
is useless after not testing it, huh?) Brad, st first you were a great guy, but come on... Don't do this to us...
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - Bey Brad - Feb. 18, 2016
What bans are you talking about? I suspect Clara also leaked a list of banned users with ban reasons, judging by what you said. Is that correct? If so, yes. Sometimes I've written snarky comments in that field. Guilty. If there are a lot of bans by me it's because I created the site and am one of the most active admins in its history.
Also, the only user I've banned since returning to the WBO has been Meta madness, as far as I know. (Other than spambots.)
Nobody said they were going to do anything to Clara. At the same time, it's obviously pretty shocking betrayal of faith for us that one of our moderators that we entrusted with a new project leaked moderator-only content.
Quote:Brad, as for bullying, I can't remember namez, but clara was down correct in saying my combos weren't given a chance. Still think Duo D:D is useless after not testing it, huh?)
I honestly don't know precisely what Duo D:D is (I didn't play most of MFB), but I don't think people saying your combos aren't great counts as bullying. Like any other member, it's up to you to provide explanations and evidence when you post a combo here. I think you're as capable as any other member here to do it, too!
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - Kai-V - Feb. 18, 2016
Please remove your tainted glasses any time starting now. The amount of lies and desecrated realities is quite simply overwhelming even to me ...
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - LOL-y Rancher - Feb. 18, 2016
Guys, instead of only looking at the negative side, we should also acknowledge that she made a huge contribution to the community.
And only posted what she did out of concern for other members.
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - Bey Brad - Feb. 18, 2016
(Feb. 18, 2016 4:33 AM)Momohimi Wrote: Guys, instead of only looking at the negative side, we should also acknowledge that she made a huge contribution to the community.
And only posted what she did out of concern for other members.
With all due respect, many of us have been doing this for huge portions of our lives. Collectively, the WBO Committee is solely responsible for the fact that there is any active community around Beyblade in the world — let alone real world tournaments, which was an anime pipe-dream when I first started Off the Chain as a 14 year old.
It seems like the value of our contributions are totally up for debate, though.
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - Jinbee - Feb. 18, 2016
Even I'm starting to see that. I hope it stays in that mentality.
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - Kei - Feb. 18, 2016
(Feb. 18, 2016 2:53 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: All I see here is a member who's constantly wanted to stir up trouble with the WBO still managing to do it after being banned. Unfortunately, he's pulled in a lot of innocent people through his lies.
Cannot agree more with this. I'm not even going to respond to most of it because it's so far beyond the reality of things.
With regards to bullying however, I think it is potentially an issue on some levels right now. But so much of it–if it happens–happens off the forum. We simply cannot keep track of everything and cannot concern ourselves with what happens off the forum unless there is a direct consequence here on the WBO itself. We're not the police. In any case, we're always happy to look into and take seriously any issues any member may perceive (in your case Clara, I will respond to your PM soon). And I think we have a strong history of squashing any levels of elitism that may form among the community, like we did years ago when everybody started trying to "own" combinations and naming them. Someone telling you your combo is not good is not "bullying", but there is a line you cannot cross, and I think most of our members know that. If they do cross it, there is, and always has been consequences. If you think we've missed something, let us know what specifically we've missed!
We absolutely strive for the WBO to be "a fun place for Bladers to connect and share ideas and opinions"; over the past seven or eight years, looking at our vast membership and history of tournaments (well over 500!) across the globe, I'd say we have been quite successful at creating the type of place you describe us as not being any longer. With the new series launch, there has been a measurable spike in activity on the site and in communities around the world. To me, this alone–not to mention the other projects we are working on that will improve the community even further–indicates that we are thriving and poised for many strong years ahead.
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - Wizard - Feb. 18, 2016
ClaraM Wrote:W.B.O stands for World Beyblade organization...W.o.r.l.d
The lack of that is astonishing,shouldn't it be about assisting and building up an active
communitity towards other places besides Canada and currently Japan...
We have had plenty of members here in the past from the US, UK and even Australia. The problem with those territories is that a lot of the active members grew up and became bored with the hobby (Ellz, Reikon) or did some things and got banned (Deikailo). A lot has happened over the years, and we have seen many faces change throughout the community for every territory including Canada.
Now that we understand this, it is easiest right now to support the building of the community in Canada because its tournament scene has remained the healthiest of any territory for many years. And now for Japan, because the hobby just relaunched in that territory this past year. We saw a huge increase in members from the US, UK and Australia when Metal Fight Beyblade launched in those territories and we will likely see the same thing happen again later this year when Beyblade Burst launches in those areas. It is really pointless to put a focus on those areas until this happens as that will be what causes the greatest increase in interest for the hobby.
We know where we currently have the most active members (Canada), and we know where the hobby is most active (Japan) so it is only logical to place a focus on those territories at this point in time. Yes, we would like to spread this community as far as we can on the globe, but we can't control where users come from and our event scene is completely driven by the community. We can have a tournament anywhere so long as there are enough members there.
Now as for having a world tournament of sorts, we did that already and to the best of our ability. We had smaller tournaments in active areas and the WBO was willing to pay travel fair to get winning members up to Canada for the final event. Why Canada? Because that is where most of our members are along with our biggest yearly event.
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - Bey Brad - Feb. 18, 2016
To be fair, we're not actually doing much in Japan, just one tournament with WARI-BEY for now. But to be honest, tournament frequency and attendance aren't up to us. Beyblade's always had a strong presence in Canada due to its heavy presence on YTV (owned by Nelvana, who also owned the rights to Beyblade), and many of us on the Committee got into Beyblade around that time.
We don't really do anything special for Canadian events either, other than go to them, because we can. Because we live in Canada.
RE: Going Away/Coming Back Topic - Wizard - Feb. 18, 2016
(Feb. 18, 2016 5:33 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: To be fair, we're not actually doing much in Japan, just one tournament with WARI-BEY for now.
We have really only had a few members from Japan, OkiBlader, OkinawamTS, Gankoba, any others? Maybe Blader DJ if that was actually him...? (I'm still not sure if that account was real) Getting a stable amount of members from Japan is a good focus, and as you said we're not even doing much. It's a start, if anything.
(Feb. 18, 2016 5:33 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: But to be honest, tournament frequency and attendance aren't up to us. Beyblade's always had a strong presence in Canada due to its heavy presence on YTV (owned by Nelvana, who also owned the rights to Beyblade), and many of us on the Committee got into Beyblade around that time.
Which is why our UK and Australian scenes have seemingly died out. Everyone got bored when Metal Fight Beyblade ended, and there's nothing we can really do about that. Which is also why the US scene has gotten so much smaller as well.
(Feb. 18, 2016 5:33 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: We don't really do anything special for Canadian events either, other than go to them
That's pretty special though