[LTD] Meteo L-Drago S130EWD - [)ragon - Jul. 31, 2015
Hey guys! Thought I should probably post at least one combination thread before summer comes to and end. Hope you like it! 
The real purpose behind this thread is to take the first step toward establishing S130 as a competitive Track for Spin-Equalization. I've always used S130 on Dragooon and Meteo customs, but I realize I'm in the minority. I've mentioned S130's utility on left-spin Stamina combinations a couple times before, but this is the first time I've sat down and tested it extensively.
The two primary Tracks used for Spin-Equalization in Limited Format are CH120 and TR145. CH120 is used for its high Precession, and TR145 for its LAD. CH120 is virtually impossible to out-precess in a Stamina match; only LTSCs below 105 can really pull it off, and even then you're cutting things close. TR145's rollers provide applicable LAD that can carry a custom half a rotation to victory in the final moments of an opposite-spin matchup. S130, on the other hand, combines both of these qualities. Being just above CH120 in height, S130 still gives you the advantage of a low center of gravity and extremely high Precession when paired with EWD, while giving you a more convenient height that helps against taller Stamina customs. The "Sheild" on S130 performs in much the same way as TR145's rollers do (probably better in my personal experience), providing impressive LAD (and some advantageous weight distribution as well).
These attributes give Meteo L-Drago S130EWD the ability to deal with basically any right-spin Stamina/Defense custom at any height (well, LTSCs are still an issue, but that's a given for pretty much any Spin-Equalizer). Hopefully this testing will demonstrate that.
Meteo: The only really viable Metal Wheel in Limited Format for Spin-Equalization. Lightning's recoil is far too high, and Destructor and Guardian have horrible weight distribution. Meteo is the only Wheel for this job.
S130: I pretty much already explained this above. Great height and shape that can maximize Precession and LAD on a Spin-Equalizer.
EWD: Hands-down the most effective Bottom for Spin-Equalization in Limited Format (arguably in all MFB formats). No other Bottom can perform nearly as well on this custom.
Weak launch against Attack customs, as usual. Against Stamina combinations, you can really do anything you want (banking would make no sense, but it probably wouldn't hurt anything). Against Defense, I would actually advise a strong launch. I discovered, during testing against MF-H Libra 85RB, that this custom is far less prone to KO when it's spinning around the same speed as its opponent. Since Meteo is a pretty flimsy Metal Wheel, this can be useful against semi-Aggressive Defense customs that would otherwise pose a threat (like Libra).
NOTE: When looking through these tests, you're going to see a lot of 100% win rates. A big chunk of this is comparing different Spin-Equalization setups, and they're all extremely competitive, so results aren't usually going to clearly favor one setup or the other. After all the testing, we're going to compare the performances of each setup based on the results, and that requires attention to detail. Pay special attention to the number of ties that occur in each match; the fewer ties that occur, the more efficient the Spin-Equalizer is at winning consistently.
Also be sure to read the commentary for each set of results if there is any. Describing the behavior of each combination during the match is key when making comparisons like this.
Meteo L-Drago CH120EWD vs. Earth Cancer W145WD
Hasbro Meteo. Earth launched first on all launches. Both customs weak launched.
Meteo: wins, 10/10 (All OS)
Earth: wins, 0/10
Meteo L-Drago CH120EWD win rate: 100%
Ties redone: 3
The ties were mostly a result of CH120's low height from what I saw. In the final moments of the match, Meteo would lean down underneath the Earth and its rubber would get caught, bringing it to an abrupt stop. Now, I was using a Hasbro Meteo, which has very soft rubber that grips surfaces much tighter. I'm not sure if a Takara Meteo with harder rubber would have as much of a problem with this.
Meteo L-Drago TR145EWD vs. Earth Cancer W145WD
Hasbro Meteo. Earth launched first on all launches. Both customs weak launched.
Meteo: wins, 17/20 (All OS)
Earth: wins, 3/20 (All OS)
Meteo L-Drago TR145EWD win rate: 85%
Ties redone: 11
TR145 had a little bit of trouble with this. There was one instance where 6 rounds in a row ended in ties. This was just a lack of Precession (well, relative to CH120; TR145's Precession is excellent compared to most of the meta, but again, we've gotta get nitpicky when comparing Spin-Equalization setups).
Meteo L-Drago CH120EWD vs. Scythe Cancer B : D
Hasbro Meteo. Scythe launched first on all launches. Both customs weak launched.
Meteo: wins, 10/10 (All OS)
Scythe: wins, 0/10
Meteo L-Drago CH120EWD win rate: 100%
Ties redone: 2
Same deal as the match against Earth pretty much.
Meteo L-Drago TR145EWD vs. Scythe Cancer B : D
Hasbro Meteo. Scythe launched first on all launches. Both customs weak launched.
Meteo: wins, 10/20 (All OS)
Scythe: wins, 10/20 (All OS)
Meteo L-Drago TR145EWD win rate: 50%
Ties redone: 10
Again, much lower Precession than CH120. Still, I was actually kind of impressed that this thing went toe-to-toe with Scythe B : D. I find it funny that the end score was 10 wins, 10 losses, and 10 ties.
Meteo L-Drago CH120EWD vs. MF-H Libra SR200CS
Hasbro Meteo. Libra launched first on all launches. Both customs weak launched.
Meteo: wins, 10/10 (All OS)
Libra: wins, 0/10
Meteo L-Drago CH120EWD win rate: 100%
Ties redone: 0
I tried launching Libra at full power and going for the KO before I started this set to make sure weak launching wouldn't negate any potential wins for Libra, and Meteo wasn't moving, so I went ahead and used a weak launch. This was basically a flawless match for Meteo.
Meteo L-Drago TR145EWD vs. MF-H Libra SR200CS
Hasbro Meteo. Libra launched first on all launches. Both customs weak launched.
Meteo: wins, 10/10 (All OS)
Libra: wins, 0/10
Meteo L-Drago TR145EWD win rate: 100%
Ties redone: 0
Meteo L-Drago CH145EWD vs. Earth Cancer 230D
Hasbro Meteo. Earth launched first on all launches. Both customs weak launched.
Meteo: wins, 10/10 (All OS)
Earth: wins, 0/10
Meteo L-Drago CH120EWD win rate: 100%
Ties redone: 1
The one tie happened when Earth knocked Meteo over late-game. I'm inclined to think it wouldn't have happened had Meteo been using a different Track, just because I've had horrible experiences with CH145's stability.
Meteo L-Drago TR145EWD vs. Earth Cancer 230D
Hasbro Meteo. Earth launched first on all launches. Both customs weak launched.
Meteo: wins, 10/10 (All OS)
Earth: wins, 0/10
Meteo L-Drago TR145EWD win rate: 100%
Ties redone: 0
This is the one match where TR145 performed on level with CH120 (probably slightly better).
Meteo L-Drago S130EWD vs. Earth Cancer W145WD
Hasbro Meteo. Earth launched first on all launches. Both customs weak launched.
Meteo: wins, 10/10 (All OS)
Earth: wins, 0/10
Meteo L-Drago S130EWD win rate: 100%
Ties redone: 1
Worked more smoothly than CH120. S130 kept it high enough off the ground that it didn't stoop underneath Earth. Better performance than I was expecting, actually.
Meteo L-Drago S130EWD vs. Scythe Cancer B : D
Hasbro Meteo. Scythe launched first on all launches. Both customs weak launched.
Meteo: wins, 10/10 (All OS)
Scythe: wins, 0/10
Meteo L-Drago S130EWD win rate: 100%
Ties redone: 5
This was almost all metal-to-metal contact, rather than rubber-to-metal as in the CH120 testing. That was most likely the reason for the higher number of ties; stealing spin was more difficult near the end of the match when the rubber couldn't make contact. Still, 100% against Scythe B : D is pretty incredible for a left-spin Stamina custom.
Meteo L-Drago S130EWD vs. MF-H Libra SR200CS
Hasbro Meteo. Libra launched first on all launches. Both customs weak launched.
Meteo: wins, 10/10 (All OS)
Libra: wins, 0/10
Meteo L-Drago S130EWD win rate: 100%
Ties redone: 0
Pretty much identical to CH120.
Meteo L-Drago S130EWD vs. Earth Cancer 230D
Hasbro Meteo. Earth launched first on all launches. Both customs weak launched.
Meteo: wins, 10/10 (All OS)
Earth: wins, 0/10
Meteo L-Drago S130EWD win rate: 100%
Ties redone: 0
Well, 100% against all four customs! Pretty sweet.
Meteo L-Drago S130EWD vs. MF-H Libra 85RB
Hasbro Meteo. New RB. Meteo launched first on all launches. Libra launched aggressively.
Meteo: wins, 9/10 (All OS)
Earth: wins, 1/10 (All KO)
Meteo L-Drago S130EWD win rate: 90%
The KO happened the first match. Again, I found that if I launched Meteo at maximum power, it was actually much more difficult for Libra to land a KO. This probably would've been 100% if I'd known that sooner.
Meteo L-Drago S130EWD vs. MF-H Omega Horuseus 100RF
Hasbro Meteo. Prime RF. Meteo launched first on all launches.
Meteo: wins, 3/20 (2 KO, 1 OS)
Earth: wins, 17/20 (All KO)
Meteo L-Drago S130EWD win rate: 15%
Those 3 wins were the product of some pitiful launches and a ridiculous number of wall saves. Just thought I'd throw a few rounds in against an Attacker for good measure.
Percentage of Rounds Won via OS (Stamina Matches Only):
CH120: 86.9%
TR145: 58.0%
S130: 86.9%
As far as efficiency in Spin-Equalizing goes, S130 is definitely superior to TR145 and on-level with CH120. Overall extremely effective. I'll be honest, I wasn't expecting the results to be this good, haha.
Overall, this custom is working really well for me! Hopefully this demonstrates S130's utility on Spin-Equalizers. Thanks for reading guys! Post thoughts and test results!
RE: [LTD] Meteo L-Drago S130EWD - LMAO - Jul. 31, 2015
Wow, lots of testing done here, nice job ()ragon!
If you have another Meteo could you test against Meteo TR145EWD?
RE: [LTD] Meteo L-Drago S130EWD - [)ragon - Jul. 31, 2015
Thanks!
I thought of that, but my only two Meteos are different brands and the rubber is a totally different consistency (which makes a bigger difference than you might think, probably enough to overshadow the difference between the Tracks). The free-spinning function in my other EWD also seems to be acting strange, so I really couldn't derive any reliable results.
RE: [LTD] Meteo L-Drago S130EWD - Stormscorpio1 - Jul. 31, 2015
I don't see what the advantage is of using S130 over say CH120. Considering that both of the tracks received right around the same results, not to mention the fact that CH1210 is a more versatile part.
RE: [LTD] Meteo L-Drago S130EWD - [)ragon - Jul. 31, 2015
Well, I could flip that around and ask what the point is in using CH120 if S130 gets the same results. The fact that S130's results are identical to CH120's suggests that it's a competitive part.
CH120 isn't necessarily more versatile; the height change function is used to handle diverse heights, but S130 can handle the same customs without a height change, so there's not much of a difference.
RE: [LTD] Meteo L-Drago S130EWD - loyd87 - Jul. 31, 2015
its a good part if we dont have CH120 to keep the combo competitive.
RE: [LTD] Meteo L-Drago S130EWD - Wombat - Jul. 31, 2015
Ahh, I was so close (I guessed Meteo S130GCF).
Out of curiosity, why did you Weak Launch the tall Earth/tall Libra? It's believable that an opponent would Weak Launch W145WD/B:D against a Meteo custom, but taller things would be almost immediately off balance nd give Meteo a huge advantage. Was your Weak Launch not as weak as I'm imagining/the Weak Launch I usually use?
I can do ED145 tests tomorrow, since you left that one out. I'm guessing it will be about the same as TR145 though.
@SS1: It's not that S130 is supposed to be better than CH120, he's just telling us that it can be used instead. It's like the B:D/SA165EWD argument. They're substitutes.
EDIT: Here's ED145. For all of these tests besides the Libra ones I Weak Launched both combos, in the Libra tests I launched them both normally.
Meteo L-Drago ED145EWD vs. Earth Cancer W145WD
L-Drago: 20 wins (all OS)
Cancer: 0 wins
2 ties redone
L-Drago win rate: 100%
Meteo L-Drago ED145EWD vs. Earth Cancer 230D
L-Drago: 19 wins (all OS)
Cancer: 1 win (OS)
3 ties redone
L-Drago win rate: 95%
About halfway through the tests I wondered if I would be able to stall out Meteo by making Earth precess in a circle like HTSC do. It only worked once, but caused 2 of the 3 ties.
Meteo L-Drago ED145EWD vs. MF-H Libra 85RB
L-Drago: 13 wins (all OS)
Cancer: 7 wins (all KO)
L-Drago win rate: 65%
I found it easier to KO even when both Beyblades were launched normally, but maybe that's because ED145 is taller and exposes Meteo's underside more.
RE: [LTD] Meteo L-Drago S130EWD - [)ragon - Jul. 31, 2015
I weak launched more to save time than anything else. It doesn't really give any advantage to Meteo; they're in the same position they would be in if they had reached that spin velocity naturally.
I don't like ED145 that much; it's decent-ish, but TR145 works slightly better for me.
RE: [LTD] Meteo L-Drago S130EWD - Thunder Dome - Jul. 31, 2015
Very interesting combo, it's cool to actually see a combo thread not many around. Although I will have to agree this combo seems very bland considering how similar it is to other Meteo spin equalization combos. Through out the testings did you feel like S130 was better compared to the more standard options such as CH120 or TR145?
Although thanks for doing the testings. Left spin for right spin stamina is always a pain so thanks for doing it man.
RE: [LTD] Meteo L-Drago S130EWD - [)ragon - Jul. 31, 2015
Bland? I think it's cool. The testing itself was a little bit grueling, but we got some valuable information out of it.
I wouldn't say this is more effective than CH120, but from what I've seen it's definitely better than TR145.
RE: [LTD] Meteo L-Drago S130EWD - Izhkoort - Aug. 12, 2015
I think the idea [)ragon has is to have more parts of choice, for people who have CH120 it's easy to think "it's the same" but, for example, I don't have CH120 but I have access to S130 because at some point I bought jupiter
Also, when you buy jupiter with RB for defense, you have S130 for Meteo, making both parts more affordable
I think, even if its not necessarily better than CH120, it's pretty neat to have that option!
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