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RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - Kai-V - Jun. 13, 2012

You should try weighing them, but that is an official Hasbro product.


RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - *Ginga* - Jun. 13, 2012

(Jun. 12, 2012  1:28 AM)zionson Wrote: Just a note, and I don't know if this has been mentioned in the thread (sorry, it's a fairly long thread) ... but many of the factories that produce authentic Takara-Tomy Beyblades ALSO produce fake (e.g., Rapidity) Beyblades. Take the Shantou Chenghai Grandbo Toys Factory in Guangdong, China, for example. It produces actual Takara Tomy Beyblades (they're a TT supplier) but also produces fake Beyblades.

Example:

Original Takara Tomy Beyblade produced in Guangdong, China - Diablo Nemesis

Fake Beyblade, easy to spot - Sol Blaze

Fake Beyblade, harder to spot - R Orso D125B

Fake Beyblade, very hard to spot - L-Drago Destroy FConfused

All these Beyblades come from the same factory in China.

That is very interesting, zionson. But what does this mean? Does TT know this? But most importantly, why do the factory's do this?



RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - Eastcider - Jun. 13, 2012

Even the plastic seem cheap like some rapidity that ws purchased
for my son... :-\ the metal wheel. juzt doent look right either


RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - *Ginga* - Jun. 13, 2012

Dude, it is real. It is an authentic Hasbro beyblade.


RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - Raigeko13 - Jun. 13, 2012

Whoa there now skipper. It's still entirely possible that it's actually fake, as sellers CAN lie about what they sell, even though they are not allowed to.

Eastcider, if you wouldn't mind, could you take some photos if the beys parts and packaging if possible?


RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - *Ginga* - Jun. 13, 2012

Well, Kai-V said it was real, so chances are, it is real.


RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - Kai-V - Jun. 13, 2012

(Jun. 13, 2012  2:34 AM)Raigeko13 Wrote: Whoa there now skipper. It's still entirely possible that it's actually fake, as sellers CAN lie about what they sell, even though they are not allowed to.

Eastcider, if you wouldn't mind, could you take some photos if the beys parts and packaging if possible?

Of course, I am just basing my opinion on what the seller shows, but they could indeed not be selling exactly the same thing ... However, from what we can see, it is entirely real.


RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - Eastcider - Jun. 13, 2012

see the packaging all looks real that is why i jumped on it for my dark wheel. but also the online battle code claims its already been used. which is odd.
this bey stands out from all othe rmetal masters i own will post pictures tonite ....
thanks guys.


RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - zionson - Jun. 13, 2012

(Jun. 13, 2012  1:45 AM)Ginga Blader#1 Wrote:
(Jun. 12, 2012  1:28 AM)zionson Wrote: Just a note, and I don't know if this has been mentioned in the thread (sorry, it's a fairly long thread) ... but many of the factories that produce authentic Takara-Tomy Beyblades ALSO produce fake (e.g., Rapidity) Beyblades. Take the Shantou Chenghai Grandbo Toys Factory in Guangdong, China, for example. It produces actual Takara Tomy Beyblades (they're a TT supplier) but also produces fake Beyblades.

Example:

Original Takara Tomy Beyblade produced in Guangdong, China - Diablo Nemesis

Fake Beyblade, easy to spot - Sol Blaze

Fake Beyblade, harder to spot - R Orso D125B

Fake Beyblade, very hard to spot - L-Drago Destroy FConfused

All these Beyblades come from the same factory in China.

That is very interesting, zionson. But what does this mean? Does TT know this? But most importantly, why do the factory's do this?

It's almost certain TT knows of it. Why they let it happen is a mystery.

As to why the factories do this ... it's China. That's all I can say.




RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - Raigeko13 - Jun. 13, 2012

I was wondering zionson, where did you come across that information? Are they classified by the letters and symbols on the parts?


RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - Eastcider - Jun. 13, 2012

not sure how this works on this forum but

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn208/eastcider/beyblade003.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn208/eastcider/beyblade004.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn208/eastcider/beyblade005.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn208/eastcider/beyblade002.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn208/eastcider/beyblade001.jpg

in the pictureto the left is the dark libra wheel of my sons ....




RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - Raigeko13 - Jun. 13, 2012

Yes, it's a real Dark Wolf, haha.

It just appears to be a more reinforced "mold" of the Metal Wheel. Some Metal Wheels have mold differences, and something like this is common. Smile


RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - Eastcider - Jun. 13, 2012

thanks. for the input just the wheel looked so ratty an cheap looking like knock offs do.
thank you once again ..




RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - Sniper - Jun. 14, 2012

Real?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Takara-Beyblade-Metal-Fusion-ZERO-G-BBG-09-THIEF-PHOENIC-E230GCF-NEW-C-21-/110894660717?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d1d63c6d
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200774586058


RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - zionson - Jun. 14, 2012

(Jun. 14, 2012  1:51 AM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: Real?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Takara-Beyblade-Metal-Fusion-ZERO-G-BBG-09-THIEF-PHOENIC-E230GCF-NEW-C-21-/110894660717?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d1d63c6d
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200774586058

I've seen those and I'd have been inclined to think they were real if not for the ridiculously low price and the sellers' locations (mainland China). Proceed with caution.

My bet is these are real items coming from the factory that produces the new Zero-G beys but MAY have some factory defect of some sort. That is to say, genuine items from the factory but do not pass QA for one reason or the other. Factory overruns.
(Jun. 13, 2012  2:11 PM)Raigeko13 Wrote: I was wondering zionson, where did you come across that information? Are they classified by the letters and symbols on the parts?

Not sure what you mean by letters and symbols on the parts, but the information can be dug up in Alibaba, a wholesaler website.



RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - BH145WD - Jun. 14, 2012

(Jun. 14, 2012  1:51 AM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: Real?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Takara-Beyblade-Metal-Fusion-ZERO-G-BBG-09-THIEF-PHOENIC-E230GCF-NEW-C-21-/110894660717?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d1d63c6d
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200774586058

Both specify that they are unopened. I don't even know of any way where you can even tell that Thief Phoenic is in a RB


RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - Sniper - Jun. 14, 2012

(Jun. 14, 2012  2:07 AM)zionson Wrote:
(Jun. 14, 2012  1:51 AM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: Real?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Takara-Beyblade-Metal-Fusion-ZERO-G-BBG-09-THIEF-PHOENIC-E230GCF-NEW-C-21-/110894660717?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d1d63c6d
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200774586058

I've seen those and I'd have been inclined to think they were real if not for the ridiculously low price and the sellers' locations (mainland China). Proceed with caution.

My bet is these are real items coming from the factory that produces the new Zero-G beys but MAY have some factory defect of some sort. That is to say, genuine items from the factory but do not pass QA for one reason or the other. Factory overruns.
(Jun. 13, 2012  2:11 PM)Raigeko13 Wrote: I was wondering zionson, where did you come across that information? Are they classified by the letters and symbols on the parts?

Not sure what you mean by letters and symbols on the parts, but the information can be dug up in Alibaba, a wholesaler website.
eh, i bought one anyway ill let you guys know how it turns out. I only bought it cause i had the extra money and the TT box and instructions in the background.



RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - zionson - Jun. 14, 2012

(Jun. 14, 2012  2:17 AM)BH145WD Wrote:
(Jun. 14, 2012  1:51 AM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: Real?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Takara-Beyblade-Metal-Fusion-ZERO-G-BBG-09-THIEF-PHOENIC-E230GCF-NEW-C-21-/110894660717?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d1d63c6d
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200774586058

Both specify that they are unopened. I don't even know of any way where you can even tell that Thief Phoenic is in a RB

It's very easy if you're able to open the box. You take a peek at the sticker.

Like this:

Then you close up the box again and put clear tape on it, restoring it to practically MiB/NiB.



RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - BH145WD - Jun. 14, 2012

(Jun. 14, 2012  3:21 AM)zionson Wrote:
(Jun. 14, 2012  2:17 AM)BH145WD Wrote:
(Jun. 14, 2012  1:51 AM)Sniperâ„¢ Wrote: Real?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Takara-Beyblade-Metal-Fusion-ZERO-G-BBG-09-THIEF-PHOENIC-E230GCF-NEW-C-21-/110894660717?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d1d63c6d
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200774586058

Both specify that they are unopened. I don't even know of any way where you can even tell that Thief Phoenic is in a RB

It's very easy if you're able to open the box. You take a peek at the sticker.

Like this:

Then you close up the box again and put clear tape on it, restoring it to practically MiB/NiB.

I see. Thank you



RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - dariel360 - Jun. 18, 2012

This is weird because it shows the real one but in the tittle it says MR145DS and I'm not sure. Also, in the last picture it has a fake box (Or is it?) and the first box is Takara Tomy. PLEASE HELP! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004774X5U/ref=s9_simh_gw_p21_d0_g21_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0K5EFHP7C7S0P18XWJHC&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846


RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - Kai-V - Jun. 18, 2012

(Jun. 18, 2012  2:37 AM)dariel360 Wrote: This is weird because it shows the real one but in the tittle it says MR145DS and I'm not sure. Also, in the last picture it has a fake box (Or is it?) and the first box is Takara Tomy. PLEASE HELP! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004774X5U/ref=s9_simh_gw_p21_d0_g21_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0K5EFHP7C7S0P18XWJHC&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846

I would definitely avoid buying that.


RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - *Ginga* - Jun. 18, 2012

Not to argue, but my friends have bought that same item, and I saw the box it came in. It is real TT. Also, it says Authentic TAKARA-TOMY, and Amazon is always trust-worthy(bought beys from it before).


RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - Hitsugiya - Jun. 26, 2012

Heads up guys, I got a reply from a message I sent yesterday.
Also, I was messaging him about this product http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261040610415 .

Edit: Here's a side-by-side of the two sellers I messaged.
http://imgur.com/S0MjA


RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - Raigeko13 - Jun. 26, 2012

I can confirm it's legit, I bought the damn thing, and it had the TAKARA-TOMY logo on the box, everything was as it should be, nothing suspicious at all.

Sellers can sell both Rapidity and TAKARA-TOMY at the same time ya know.


RE: theflightyellz's guide to fakes and searching. - Sniper - Jun. 26, 2012

And I as well had purchased one and got it on saturday 100% Takara tomy