(Dec. 14, 2013  2:19 AM)DRAGON KING Wrote: Sounds cool, but I would definitely like to see more stamina testing .

(Dec. 14, 2013  2:24 AM)DRAGON KING Wrote: Duo Cygnus sa165ewd please and if u have a chance mf-l phantom Cygnus 90mf

(Dec. 14, 2013  2:28 AM)MidnightLWBO Wrote: This Combo Seems Ok, And Possibly Top Tier Worthy. Please Do Some Testings Against MF-L Phantom Cygnus 85MF.

(Dec. 14, 2013  2:31 AM)OrionBlade Wrote: I'll do testing for him with this combo against Duo Cygnus SA165 EWD and MF-L Phantom Cygnus 85 MF this weekend.

(Dec. 14, 2013  2:34 AM)Tri Wrote: GF is a very risky part to use. Not only that, but it's pretty difficult to use. GCF, CF, and MF would all be better choices for stalling from my testing just because you don't have to worry about self KOs. I don't see much use for this, besides in Zero G.

(Dec. 14, 2013  2:38 AM)Tri Wrote: That's not true, unfortuantely. Yes weak launching can help prevent self KOs sometimes, but either way its extremely difficult to control.

(Dec. 14, 2013  3:50 AM)TheBlackDragon Wrote: This is actually a really cool idea... one I've tested before, in fact!

The only problem is, GF is very risky to use, like Tri said. You need something bulky and heavy for it to work well, like MF-H Killerken Dragooon BD145GF.

That said, this is super close to absolutely amazing, but you'd want to use something besides SA165, like BD145 or CH120.

Come to think of it, Dragooon BD145GF balance customs haven't been considered much for potential addition to the tier list. They're amazing spin-equalizers, and they do have decent resistance to Attack. The only thing you really need to worry about when using a BD145GF spin stealer is 1) not actually being able to steal spin effectively near the end of the match, due to all the friction GF is creating (had this happen to me on more than one occasion, especially against aggressive opponents ), and 2) Self-KO. Even weak-launching (which will oftentimes lead to the first defect I mentioned) with such an incredibly aggressive Bottom is still quite risky.

If you can get past those two things, they're really quite effective.

(Dec. 14, 2013  4:39 PM)OrionBlade Wrote: I am able to do CH120 as well as BD145 testing, also I will be testing this combo in the BB-10 attack type stadium, results will be up tomorrow as soon as I am able to since there's a tournament tomorrow and ill be busy today.

(Dec. 16, 2013  4:20 PM)TheBlackDragon Wrote: Well, making a thread to compare Killerken Dragooon BD145GF and Girago Dragooon BD145GF would be kinda pointless. XD

What would be a good thing to do, though, would be to post some Dragooon BD145GF testing in the Competitive combos discussion thread. We could look into it going on the list (IMO it's good enough if you can launch it right).