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RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - Leone19 - Jun. 08, 2014 (Jun. 08, 2014 9:15 PM)Kai-V Wrote:(Jun. 08, 2014 9:11 PM)RagerBlade Wrote: [quote='Kai-V' pid='1214928' dateline='1402258227']So that just proves the point. SA165 does good in Stamina, but nothing else. It should be unbanned. Things like Big Bang remain banned as it exceeds in one type (Attack); same situation with SA165, if you say it's "only good in stamina". I still really like the idea of keeping all "Big Disk" Tracks banned; it simply gives the Meta more diversity and fairness- which was the point of it, in the first place. RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - RagerBlade - Jun. 08, 2014 (Jun. 08, 2014 9:16 PM)Leone19 Wrote:Ok now that just disproved a lot of the stuff I've been saying all day, lol.(Jun. 08, 2014 8:30 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:Well if we take a look into the Winning combos we can see ourself that attack isn't used as much as Stamina, and SA165 is very much Stamina.(Jun. 08, 2014 8:29 PM)TheWhiteTiger Wrote: [quote='RagerBlade' pid='1214869' dateline='1402254064'] RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - Sıon - Jun. 08, 2014 I said this earlier, but maybe you can allow some 4d beyblades with only if put in certain modes, like duo, but only in attack mode. RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - Leone19 - Jun. 08, 2014 (Jun. 08, 2014 9:20 PM)tac1017 Wrote: I said this earlier, but maybe you can allow some 4d beyblades with only if put in certain modes, like duo, but only in attack mode. That is not the best idea; it's weight alone would be over powered and will only make the format confusing to young or new players. RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - Mitsu - Jun. 08, 2014 (Jun. 08, 2014 9:20 PM)tac1017 Wrote: I said this earlier, but maybe you can allow some 4d beyblades with only if put in certain modes, like duo, but only in attack mode. That would be a pretty huge mistake in Limited. Even if Duo were in attack mode, it would sure enough ruin Limited's meta. Edit: Nevermind, Leone19 replied before me. RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - RagerBlade - Jun. 08, 2014 (Jun. 08, 2014 9:22 PM)Leone19 Wrote:Plus it would make Tournament complicated having to check each bey to see if it's in the right mode...(Jun. 08, 2014 9:20 PM)tac1017 Wrote: I said this earlier, but maybe you can allow some 4d beyblades with only if put in certain modes, like duo, but only in attack mode. RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - Neo - Jun. 08, 2014 (Jun. 08, 2014 9:23 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:(Jun. 08, 2014 9:22 PM)Leone19 Wrote:Plus it would make Tournament complicated having to check each bey to see if it's in the right mode...(Jun. 08, 2014 9:20 PM)tac1017 Wrote: I said this earlier, but maybe you can allow some 4d beyblades with only if put in certain modes, like duo, but only in attack mode. They should examine the beys right? What if someone places a ball bearing inside the track? RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - RagerBlade - Jun. 08, 2014 (Jun. 08, 2014 9:40 PM)Neo~ Wrote:Yeah they examine the beys for things like that. It would make it difficult for organizers if specific modes were allowed.(Jun. 08, 2014 9:23 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:(Jun. 08, 2014 9:22 PM)Leone19 Wrote: That is not a good idea; it's weight alone would be over powered.Plus it would make Tournament complicated having to check each bey to see if it's in the right mode... RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - Leone19 - Jun. 08, 2014 (Jun. 08, 2014 9:40 PM)Neo~ Wrote:(Jun. 08, 2014 9:23 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:(Jun. 08, 2014 9:22 PM)Leone19 Wrote: That is not a good idea; it's weight alone would be over powered.Plus it would make Tournament complicated having to check each bey to see if it's in the right mode... That can be said for any format. If judges spot something performing funny or anything illegal they'll look at it- I've had to do that at one of the events I've hosted, when a player was going to use a Rapidity MB. RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - Neo - Jun. 08, 2014 (Jun. 08, 2014 9:41 PM)Leone19 Wrote:(Jun. 08, 2014 9:40 PM)Neo~ Wrote:(Jun. 08, 2014 9:23 PM)RagerBlade Wrote: Plus it would make Tournament complicated having to check each bey to see if it's in the right mode... I think all beys should be examined before ANY battle. Someone might put an illegal part in before the next battle starts. RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - 6 God - Jun. 08, 2014 It would probably extend the tournament a good 30 minutes to stop and examine each Beyblade before they were used. RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - Neo - Jun. 08, 2014 (Jun. 08, 2014 9:46 PM)TheWhiteTiger Wrote: It would probably extend the tournament a good 30 minutes to stop and examine each Beyblade before they were used. A quick check by taking off the tip would extend the tourney 30 minutes?? RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - Leone19 - Jun. 08, 2014 Guys, this isn't even about the Ban List anymore. Take it to PM's, please. RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - Neo - Jun. 08, 2014 (Jun. 08, 2014 9:50 PM)Leone19 Wrote: Guys, this isn't even about the Ban List anymore. Take it to PM's, please. Well, checking for illegal mods and checking for modes falls in the same category. It just makes sense that all combinations should be checked. RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - 6 God - Jun. 08, 2014 Yeah most likely. You'd have to check just about everything really, a skilled person could melt lead into the back of the Beyblade. You have to check the tip and see if it's worn or not. You can take out a piece of the launcher and extend the time of your Beyblade's spins. You can melt the stoppers in a Clear wheel and make it soin 2 directions(I think). And obviously you'd need both players to do a test launch if you wanna be specific. There's a lot of ways to cheat, better to just wait and see how it preforms first. Edit: Leone's right, if you have any disagreements just PM me. RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - Leone19 - Jun. 08, 2014 (Jun. 08, 2014 9:50 PM)Leone19 Wrote: Guys, this isn't even about the Ban List anymore. Take it to PM's, please. Quote:Well, checking for illegal mods and checking for modes falls in the same category. It just makes sense that all combinations should be checked. No, it does not. This topic is about specific parts being banned to make the format 100% fair. Again, this is not about the Ban List, please stop posting about it here. RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - Sıon - Jun. 08, 2014 that is also what I am talking about! they should have an approval stadium of where performance can be tested, as where if lets say duo was un-banned only in attack mode, but one person managed to smuggle it in with stamina mode. they would then be forced to launch it in a stadium, and they will see spin time and performance. the performance can identify real and fake beyblades and parts. So, such a close examination would be step two if you added an approval stadium, maybe the ultimate Beta Beystadium to track small magnetic parts??? RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - RagerBlade - Jun. 08, 2014 (Jun. 08, 2014 10:58 PM)tac1017 Wrote: that is also what I am talking about! they should have an approval stadium of where performance an be tested, as where if lets say duo was un-banned only in attack mode, but one person managed to smuggle it in with stamina mode. they would then be forced to launch it in a stadium, and they will see spin time and performance. the performance can identify real and fake beyblades and parts.It would still be a pain to check everything before battles... RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - Sıon - Jun. 08, 2014 (Jun. 08, 2014 10:59 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:(Jun. 08, 2014 10:58 PM)tac1017 Wrote: that is also what I am talking about! they should have an approval stadium of where performance an be tested, as where if lets say duo was un-banned only in attack mode, but one person managed to smuggle it in with stamina mode. they would then be forced to launch it in a stadium, and they will see spin time and performance. the performance can identify real and fake beyblades and parts.It would still be a pain to check everything before battles... Maybe you can hold the beyblades then give it to the person when it is their turn so they have no time to rig it??? RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - RagerBlade - Jun. 08, 2014 (Jun. 08, 2014 11:04 PM)tac1017 Wrote:It would take way too long is the point I'm trying to get through. It would be nice, but way too much time-consuming in tournaments...(Jun. 08, 2014 10:59 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:(Jun. 08, 2014 10:58 PM)tac1017 Wrote: that is also what I am talking about! they should have an approval stadium of where performance an be tested, as where if lets say duo was un-banned only in attack mode, but one person managed to smuggle it in with stamina mode. they would then be forced to launch it in a stadium, and they will see spin time and performance. the performance can identify real and fake beyblades and parts.It would still be a pain to check everything before battles... RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - Pokemo - Jun. 08, 2014 true, and you can tell fake by how shiny it is, and by it's looks RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - RagerBlade - Jun. 08, 2014 (Jun. 08, 2014 11:08 PM)Pokemo Wrote: true, and you can tell fake by how shiny it is, and by it's looksWell I don't know how that was in the conversation. We were talking about if the WBO could ban certain modes. RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - Sıon - Jun. 08, 2014 (Jun. 08, 2014 11:06 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:(Jun. 08, 2014 11:04 PM)tac1017 Wrote:It would take way too long is the point I'm trying to get through. It would be nice, but way too much time-consuming in tournaments...(Jun. 08, 2014 10:59 PM)RagerBlade Wrote: It would still be a pain to check everything before battles... I understand, but I do not see how launching a bey into a stadium is time consuming... Maybe you can also try to make some parts legal, only if you have another art on it, like duo is allowed, but only if you add 85 gf. RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - RagerBlade - Jun. 08, 2014 (Jun. 08, 2014 11:09 PM)tac1017 Wrote:That would be very complicated. Imagine trying to explain to younger Bladers that you can't use W145 with WD (Just an example!) and SA165 with EWD and all the different combinations of tracks and tips that are banned. It wouldn't be easy, plus hard to memorize even for a 18 year old Blader.(Jun. 08, 2014 11:06 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:(Jun. 08, 2014 11:04 PM)tac1017 Wrote: Maybe you can hold the beyblades then give it to the person when it is their turn so they have n time to rig it???It would take way too long is the point I'm trying to get through. It would be nice, but way too much time-consuming in tournaments... RE: MFB: Limited :: Ban List Discussion - Dark_Mousy - Jun. 09, 2014 Whatnif we had it wjere sa165 had to be in zero g attack mode? Ill try amd get some tests up today |