(Mar. 02, 2014  2:40 PM)Maximum Dranzer Wrote: just asking generally if the new ban list be followed for the qualifiers and all?

(Mar. 02, 2014  7:35 PM)Leone7 Wrote: Can I use pre hybrid libra

(Mar. 03, 2014  3:05 AM)TheWhiteTiger Wrote: Only 4D metal wheels, so yes. Either someone capable of hosting has A) not found enough people or B) hasn't attempted strongly enough to do so.

(Mar. 06, 2014  8:00 AM)HadesPisces2210 Wrote: How about this:Thermal Aquario S130 D.
It isn't exactly a stamina combo(more of a balance), but it spins for 181 seconds.
It's almost a match for my Hades Kerbecs BD145 MB.
ALMOST...

(Mar. 03, 2014  3:05 AM)TheWhiteTiger Wrote: Only 4D metal wheels, so yes. Either someone capable of hosting has A) not found enough people or B) hasn't attempted strongly enough to do so.

(Mar. 10, 2014  1:04 PM)Raiden Kurogane Wrote:

(Mar. 03, 2014  3:05 AM)TheWhiteTiger Wrote: Only 4D metal wheels, so yes. Either someone capable of hosting has A) not found enough people or B) hasn't attempted strongly enough to do so.

So basically, it's implied here that Bearing Drive is uncompetitive? Someone needs to do their homework.

(Mar. 11, 2014  9:36 PM)Xaos Ninja Wrote: Why is Gravity banned? I understand that it can supply extremely powerful hits/attacks, but so can any other attack wheel. It is also only 33.8 grams, being 2 grams heavier from the 2nd heaviest legal metal wheel of limited, and Jade being about 5 grams more than Gravity.

Also, I am seeing many people win tournaments with Duo. Is Duo now legal, or is are they using a Metal Fury version?

Also, I know that many of you will get mad at me, but I believe that Jade should become banned because of it's extreme weight. It is way over-powered and can supply extreme hits if in the right mode.

(Mar. 11, 2014  9:44 PM)th!nk Wrote:

(Mar. 11, 2014  9:36 PM)Xaos Ninja Wrote: Why is Gravity banned? I understand that it can supply extremely powerful hits/attacks, but so can any other attack wheel. It is also only 33.8 grams, being 2 grams heavier from the 2nd heaviest legal metal wheel of limited, and Jade being about 5 grams more than Gravity.

Also, I am seeing many people win tournaments with Duo. Is Duo now legal, or is are they using a Metal Fury version?

Also, I know that many of you will get mad at me, but I believe that Jade should become banned because of it's extreme weight. It is way over-powered and can supply extreme hits if in the right mode.

It's also extroadinarily capable as a spin stealer (so Gravity Perseus F230GCF was rampant) and a lot more reliable than most other Attack wheels, to the point it dominated usage in a lot of places. I was neutral on it, but I can understand the decision. There was extensive discussion before the ban that you can look into if interested, further back in this thread.

What did I say in the winning combos thread?

I'm not mad, but I believe very strongly that you're wrong. It's no more powerful offensively than Metal System Pegasis, thanks to the atrocious recoil and lack of upward aggression. It was originally banned, but was recently unbanned because it really isn't threatening. Attack types don't fare nearly as well in tournaments as they do in testing etc anyway. I own one and I'm still using Pegasis instead.

(Mar. 10, 2014  2:29 PM)th!nk Wrote:

(Mar. 10, 2014  1:04 PM)Raiden Kurogane Wrote:

(Mar. 03, 2014  3:05 AM)TheWhiteTiger Wrote: Only 4D metal wheels, so yes. Either someone capable of hosting has A) not found enough people or B) hasn't attempted strongly enough to do so.

So basically, it's implied here that Bearing Drive is uncompetitive? Someone needs to do their homework.

Yes, someone does need to do their homework, especially before saying others need to do so based on incorrect assumptions.

We don't ban things for being competitive, otherwise we wouldn't have a format at all, because if you remove enough parts anything can become competitive. The format is based around the weight range of the earlier MFB releases and around those releases in general, as prior to the maximum series, bar one or two parts here and there, the game was well balanced and the weight range is overall pretty similar, providing a strong enough foundation to build a format around.
There's more about it in the starting posts of the various stickied threads in this subforum, which I'd suggest you should read.

You also don't seem to understand the process involved in determining that sort of thing anyway - it is a thorough one, and as such sometimes it does take time - but with the size of the userbase in this forum, we generally do quite a good job of finding parts that are too powerful (and finding competitive parts in general).

(Mar. 16, 2014  3:06 PM)Raiden Kurogane Wrote: Is anyone going to actually use the lightweight metal wheels from the Metal Fury line? I think competition involving those would be interesting, as I'm sure at least someone will be using them.
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Judging by the response you had to my earlier comment, I'm guessing you've never heard a joke before. Yes, I did read the original post, thank you very much.

(Mar. 16, 2014  5:33 PM)RDF3 Wrote: I know I already mentioned Fusion already- but is there even a slight chance it might get unbanned?

Personally, I never use it much but on defense mode (rubber up) especially on RB/RSF it's broken like bringing a gun to a wrestling match-overkill.

(Mar. 16, 2014  3:27 PM)TheLibraKing Wrote: Metal fury Duo, scythe, cosmic etc. are very competitive....


It didn't sound like a joke :\. It sounded like you were serious, so th!nk corrected you.