(Nov. 25, 2020  3:21 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  3:20 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: WBO nowadays there was that team war. Basically almost in every thread there was a point in where there was war.

Unfortunately yeah. There always big arguments just every man.

(Nov. 25, 2020  3:22 PM)NamanSpryzen Wrote: An APP!!! An app for WBO! I need it, as I don't like going on the website and refreshing it! An app will be helpful, as we will get notifications about a pm, a quote, and a mention (or a @)!

(Nov. 25, 2020  5:16 AM)Zeutron Wrote: Honestly I can’t help but think that the wbo either has too many incompetent staff members or an insufficient amount of staff members in general. Maybe it’s just me but apart from Jinbee and CitrusNinja3 there are no competent/active staff members. Why not offer cheetoblader and Bladergem staff positions? They are pretty much perfect for it.

(Nov. 25, 2020  4:06 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  5:16 AM)Zeutron Wrote: Honestly I can’t help but think that the wbo either has too many incompetent staff members or an insufficient amount of staff members in general. Maybe it’s just me but apart from Jinbee and CitrusNinja3 there are no competent/active staff members. Why not offer cheetoblader and Bladergem staff positions? They are pretty much perfect for it.

A bit late, but here it goes.

While I would love to be on the WBO staff, I’m still far from being a good mod here. Sometimes I can be too rude on accident, which would shine a bad light on the WBO if they had a rude staff member. If I was to be a staff member, I’d need to be better at making sure I don’t cross the line of firm and rude.

(Nov. 25, 2020  4:40 PM)kai edits Wrote: Still tho you make wbo more better tho

(Nov. 25, 2020  5:45 PM)Shindog Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  4:40 PM)kai edits Wrote: Still tho you make wbo more better tho

This may be true, but

Isn’t it better for each member to make the WBO better by showing collective restraint? To at times to help remind each other to be courteous, post meaningful posts, and to report spam?  Rather than rely on a few mods.  How many mods will be enough if members just don’t help out?  If people like the WBO, why not all pitch in rather than ask for more policing?

Why ask for mod 1st when we can first ask ourselves?

(Nov. 25, 2020  6:14 PM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  5:45 PM)Shindog Wrote: This may be true, but

Isn’t it better for each member to make the WBO better by showing collective restraint? To at times to help remind each other to be courteous, post meaningful posts, and to report spam?  Rather than rely on a few mods.  How many mods will be enough if members just don’t help out?  If people like the WBO, why not all pitch in rather than ask for more policing?

Why ask for mod 1st when we can first ask ourselves?

I understand what you mean, but at the end of the day trying to reason with some people is about as effective as trying to tell an orange to peel itself, the words of a single average member are only so powerful. The thing is, this is a beyblade forum and although beyblade appeals to all ages we realistically have to understand that the majority audience are just kids, that being said I don’t know if relying on the wbo as a whole is a good idea. It’s just inherent in the nature of young children and pre/early teens to show a lack of restraint.

(Nov. 25, 2020  6:14 PM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  5:45 PM)Shindog Wrote: This may be true, but

Isn’t it better for each member to make the WBO better by showing collective restraint? To at times to help remind each other to be courteous, post meaningful posts, and to report spam?  Rather than rely on a few mods.  How many mods will be enough if members just don’t help out?  If people like the WBO, why not all pitch in rather than ask for more policing?

Why ask for mod 1st when we can first ask ourselves?

I understand what you mean, but at the end of the day trying to reason with some people is about as effective as trying to tell an orange to peel itself, the words of a single average member are only so powerful. The thing is, this is a beyblade forum and although beyblade appeals to all ages we realistically have to understand that the majority audience are just kids. That being said, I don’t know if relying on the wbo as a whole is a good idea. It’s just inherent in the nature of young children and pre/early teens to show a lack of restraint.

(Nov. 25, 2020  7:39 PM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  6:14 PM)Zeutron Wrote: I understand what you mean, but at the end of the day trying to reason with some people is about as effective as trying to tell an orange to peel itself, the words of a single average member are only so powerful. The thing is, this is a beyblade forum and although beyblade appeals to all ages we realistically have to understand that the majority audience are just kids. That being said, I don’t know if relying on the wbo as a whole is a good idea. It’s just inherent in the nature of young children and pre/early teens to show a lack of restraint.

While standard Members or Organizers may not be able to close threads, remove posts, or give out warnings, it definitely helps when someone steps in to help deescalate a situation before a Staff Member can arrive. There's also the report button, which can make it easier for a Staff Member to find a situation that needs to be dealt with. The same way that Staff Members aren't forced to give up more time than we can afford, we're not expecting Members to deescalate every issue before we can deal with them either. We appreciate the times that someone helps and understand the times where no one is able or willing to step up to the plate.

(Dec. 03, 2020  3:39 AM)XSabxManiacX Wrote: I know that every site and platform may be different, with some having worse mods compared to other and the like, though Id like to give my two cents. Im a mod on a really active site (a wiki, specifically) and Id like to offer some wisdom, albeit being late to the topic — very sorry:

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Theres a way that users can indeed help out without having to resort to minimodding. The minimodding type of thing is seen as really annoying, since half the time people dont know what theyre saying (just minutes ago, I had to stop someone for harassing another user and feeding them wrong information on rules). However, every site relies on the average good of a user. I know its hard, especially on the WBO where we have a huge age range and the rules page isnt very visible, but its practically common sense. A lot of us are expected to be on our best behavior on the internet, to ensure the best experience for ourselves and others. Otherwise every site would be doomed by the start. If everyone could pitch in 1% to be more respectful, courteous, and kind, then we definitely wont have issues like rule-breaking and having people to resort to minimodding

For people who minimod often on purpose and/or actually want to be mod: It is not fun to be a mod. Maybe Im biased, given that the type of mod I am is a lot more strenuous than other branches, but thats the huge deal. No one treats you like a god if you are a mod. Youre treated the same way you were as a normal user. Theres no worshipping and kissing-up. Youre also expected to work hard, act your best, and youre plagued with all sorts of insecurities. Trust me, I said something stupid to my team and I could feel their stares behind my screen. And I worry about how I might be so sarcastic and blunt, someone might actually take offense and Ill be demoted off the spot. Just because youre mod, doesnt make you exempt from the rules. And youll be punished harder than just a normal user if you break them. Not to mention, all the times I responded to my friends late just because I had to write up warning to a user

It is okay to complain about needing more mods. But in the end, it is the mod team’s decision for if they want to open up spots and take action. Dont scream or complain how no one is active. I know, its frustrating but there are many other options. Hit the report button. Private message. Be a good user and enforce the rules with whatever power and extent you have. And by experience, I know that the people who say mocking stuff like “why arent the mods active lulssss” or demanding things from mods would almost never be promoted. Ditto for asking to be promoted. If you want active mods, be your best self and youll be considered a good candidate

Finally, dont publicly vouche for people to be mods. Believe me, I did that many times and look what happened: Upon joining the mod team, Ive learned a LOT of stuff about past candidates trying to run/apply for modship. Histories of troublemaking, bigotry, offenses, etc. Ive supported bad people without even knowing. Saying it in private to the user is fine, but youll end up looking bad vouching for someone in front of staff if that user ends up to be terrible

Thats it. If any of you want to be WBO staff/mod one day, thats on you. The WBO isnt my main site and hobby place so I cant speak much

(Dec. 03, 2020  3:51 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Dec. 03, 2020  3:39 AM)XSabxManiacX Wrote: I know that every site and platform may be different, with some having worse mods compared to other and the like, though Id like to give my two cents. Im a mod on a really active site (a wiki, specifically) and Id like to offer some wisdom, albeit being late to the topic — very sorry:

Spoiler (Click to View)

Theres a way that users can indeed help out without having to resort to minimodding. The minimodding type of thing is seen as really annoying, since half the time people dont know what theyre saying (just minutes ago, I had to stop someone for harassing another user and feeding them wrong information on rules). However, every site relies on the average good of a user. I know its hard, especially on the WBO where we have a huge age range and the rules page isnt very visible, but its practically common sense. A lot of us are expected to be on our best behavior on the internet, to ensure the best experience for ourselves and others. Otherwise every site would be doomed by the start. If everyone could pitch in 1% to be more respectful, courteous, and kind, then we definitely wont have issues like rule-breaking and having people to resort to minimodding

For people who minimod often on purpose and/or actually want to be mod: It is not fun to be a mod. Maybe Im biased, given that the type of mod I am is a lot more strenuous than other branches, but thats the huge deal. No one treats you like a god if you are a mod. Youre treated the same way you were as a normal user. Theres no worshipping and kissing-up. Youre also expected to work hard, act your best, and youre plagued with all sorts of insecurities. Trust me, I said something stupid to my team and I could feel their stares behind my screen. And I worry about how I might be so sarcastic and blunt, someone might actually take offense and Ill be demoted off the spot. Just because youre mod, doesnt make you exempt from the rules. And youll be punished harder than just a normal user if you break them. Not to mention, all the times I responded to my friends late just because I had to write up warning to a user

It is okay to complain about needing more mods. But in the end, it is the mod team’s decision for if they want to open up spots and take action. Dont scream or complain how no one is active. I know, its frustrating but there are many other options. Hit the report button. Private message. Be a good user and enforce the rules with whatever power and extent you have. And by experience, I know that the people who say mocking stuff like “why arent the mods active lulssss” or demanding things from mods would almost never be promoted. Ditto for asking to be promoted. If you want active mods, be your best self and youll be considered a good candidate

Finally, dont publicly vouche for people to be mods. Believe me, I did that many times and look what happened: Upon joining the mod team, Ive learned a LOT of stuff about past candidates trying to run/apply for modship. Histories of troublemaking, bigotry, offenses, etc. Ive supported bad people without even knowing. Saying it in private to the user is fine, but youll end up looking bad vouching for someone in front of staff if that user ends up to be terrible

Thats it. If any of you want to be WBO staff/mod one day, thats on you. The WBO isnt my main site and hobby place so I cant speak much

I’m not sure if you were referring to me or not but if you were than I am sorry, I’m not trying to sound whiny nor am I trying to sound like I’m complaining. I just feel like what we have is insufficient, you know what I mean? We have Jinbee and CitrusNinja3 and the only active universal moderators (I don’t know who goes with what subforum) and then we have that one guy who helps with the subbing and anime/manga needs. Apart from those three, who have you seen active on the wbo? Not many others I assume. When you take into consideration the fact that Jinbee and CitrusNinja3 realistically can’t be on all the time since they have their own lives then you aren’t left with much. We can’t solely rely on two moderators but we also can’t rely on the members of the wbo either. Let’s face it, as we have seen lately, people don’t take average members seriously and at other times, minimodding only makes things worse. When people are stopped or reprimanded by authoritative figures they actually tend to respond in a different way whether it would be due to fear of punishment or unspoken respect. I do agree that being a moderator isn’t fun and is a responsibility as opposed to privilege but surely someone is a reasonable fit.

(Nov. 25, 2020  6:33 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: I know we can make this place better if we all work together and help each other out. The fights are really not necessary.

(Dec. 03, 2020  4:00 AM)XSabxManiacX Wrote:

(Dec. 03, 2020  3:51 AM)Zeutron Wrote: I’m not sure if you were referring to me or not but if you were than I am sorry, I’m not trying to sound whiny nor am I trying to sound like I’m complaining. I just feel like what we have is insufficient, you know what I mean? We have Jinbee and CitrusNinja3 and the only active universal moderators (I don’t know who goes with what subforum) and then we have that one guy who helps with the subbing and anime/manga needs. Apart from those three, who have you seen active on the wbo? Not many others I assume. When you take into consideration the fact that Jinbee and CitrusNinja3 realistically can’t be on all the time since they have their own lives then you aren’t left with much. We can’t solely rely on two moderators but we also can’t rely on the members of the wbo either. Let’s face it, as we have seen lately, people don’t take average members seriously and at other times, minimodding only makes things worse. When people are stopped or reprimanded by authoritative figures they actually tend to respond in a different way whether it would be due to fear of punishment or unspoken respect. I do agree that being a moderator isn’t fun and is a responsibility as opposed to privilege but surely someone is a reasonable fit.

No, Im definitely not accusing you. Im all for WBO opening up more staff and trying to find someone as soon as possible. Though, given that a lot of Beyblade’s audience are young people and teens (similar to the wiki Im on), I can definitely say that at least someone actually thinks stuff like that. Its definitely not you. Its someone out there I might never get to know, or people or in the past. All I can say for sure if that, if they want to promote someone, it would take time. A lot of the mods here are older people here after all and as you noted, they realistically cant be on all the time. I doubt they would have time for promotions and discussions, but if they can, I think itll be appreciated. We definitely need more staff

Sometimes Im afraid there might never be enough mods to keep a site standing. Where I am, we have 17-ish active mods but never enough to close/delete annoying threads or ban someone in time. Im rather surprised that the this WBO site is running fairly well on just 2-ish active ones. If we could get one or two more, that would be cool, even if it isnt much

All I suggest is that, we really need to pitch in to make ourselves the best we can. We are in charge of our own actions and therefore, we can do our best to do whats right. Like being nice to a user, or not post something that might come off as offensive. And if Im going to be honest — even though Im quite blunt and sarcastic sometimes, Im a really lenient person at heart. Im a lot more chill with minimodding compared to other mods, just as long as people know what theyre doing and not, say, feeding someone wrong info or adding fuel to the fire. Idc what anyone does as long as it doesnt cause trouble or make the mods wanna rip their hair out

(Nov. 25, 2020  3:22 PM)NamanSpryzen Wrote: An APP!!! An app for WBO! I need it, as I don't like going on the website and refreshing it! An app will be helpful, as we will get notifications about a pm, a quote, and a mention (or a @)!

(Dec. 03, 2020  4:05 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Dec. 03, 2020  4:00 AM)XSabxManiacX Wrote: No, Im definitely not accusing you. Im all for WBO opening up more staff and trying to find someone as soon as possible. Though, given that a lot of Beyblade’s audience are young people and teens (similar to the wiki Im on), I can definitely say that at least someone actually thinks stuff like that. Its definitely not you. Its someone out there I might never get to know, or people or in the past. All I can say for sure if that, if they want to promote someone, it would take time. A lot of the mods here are older people here after all and as you noted, they realistically cant be on all the time. I doubt they would have time for promotions and discussions, but if they can, I think itll be appreciated. We definitely need more staff

Sometimes Im afraid there might never be enough mods to keep a site standing. Where I am, we have 17-ish active mods but never enough to close/delete annoying threads or ban someone in time. Im rather surprised that the this WBO site is running fairly well on just 2-ish active ones. If we could get one or two more, that would be cool, even if it isnt much

All I suggest is that, we really need to pitch in to make ourselves the best we can. We are in charge of our own actions and therefore, we can do our best to do whats right. Like being nice to a user, or not post something that might come off as offensive. And if Im going to be honest — even though Im quite blunt and sarcastic sometimes, Im a really lenient person at heart. Im a lot more chill with minimodding compared to other mods, just as long as people know what theyre doing and not, say, feeding someone wrong info or adding fuel to the fire. Idc what anyone does as long as it doesnt cause trouble or make the mods wanna rip their hair out

I gotta say, you are definitely very convincing so maybe it isn’t as urgent as I think it is. I still advocate for more staff members in the future but you have a point in saying that we are responsible for our own actions at the end of the day.

(Dec. 03, 2020  4:07 AM)BeybladeManiac0 Wrote:

(Nov. 25, 2020  3:22 PM)NamanSpryzen Wrote: An APP!!! An app for WBO! I need it, as I don't like going on the website and refreshing it! An app will be helpful, as we will get notifications about a pm, a quote, and a mention (or a @)!

YES!!!

YOU'RE TALKING MY LANGUAGE MAN!!!