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RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline - [)ragon - May. 29, 2013
Stole the words right out of my mouth again!
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline - *Ginga* - Jun. 02, 2013
OK, updated tier list:
Quote:Smash Attack
MSF/MSF-H Wyvang Wyvang W145/160 R2F/RF/XF
MSF/MSF-H Bahamdia Ifraid SA165 R2F/RF/XF
Zero-G Attack (Sway)
MSF/MSF-H Wyvang Wyvang E230/SA165/SP230 GCF/GF/CF
MSF/MSF-H Revizer Dragooon SA165 CF/GF/GCF
Defense
MSF-H Revizer Revizer E230 RS/RB
Sway Defense (Zero-G Defense anyone?)
MSF-H Revizer Revizer E230 BSF/MB/TB/RSF/RS
Stamina
Duo Cancer/Cygnus/Aquario SA165 BWD/EWD
Duo Cancer/Cygnus/Aquario W145 EWD/BWD
Duo Cancer/Cygnus/Aquario SR200 TB
Duo Cancer/Cygnus/Aquario B:D
Spin Stealers
MSF-H Killerken/Revizer Dragooon B:D
MSF-H Killerken/Revizer Dragooon SA165 BWD
Balance
MF-H Duo Cancer/Aquario/Cygnus F230 CF
MSF/MSF-H Genbull Genbull F230 CF
MSF/MSF-H Girago/Wyvang Dragooon F230 CF/GCF
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline - ShinobuXD - Jun. 02, 2013
I agree with it all, except for one thing- you put Duo B
up twice. I'd just lump it in with pure stamina.
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline - *Ginga* - Jun. 02, 2013
Ah, OK, I am fixing it now.
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline - Yuko Ray14 - Jun. 02, 2013
Yay my Girago Dragooon combo is top tier! But getting 2 Wayvangs is kinda hard, couldn't other wheels with great smash be added to IE: Begriados Begriados, Gryph Gyph, Balro Balro?
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline - *Ginga* - Jun. 02, 2013
But are any of them really up to the level that Wyvang is on?
EDIT: Sorry guys, just realized I hadn't put Bahamdia up for smash. Doing that now.
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline - Dark_Mousy - Jun. 02, 2013
Gryph Dragooon SP230 GCF is top tier. Its been tested already.
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline - yt152430 - Jun. 02, 2013
I think wyvang dragoon should be in attack and defense because ive seen tests that have great results in both
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline - ShinobuXD - Jun. 02, 2013
Dark_Mousy- Isn't it just a weaker version of the two Dragooon sway attackers already on there? What improvement does it offer offer those two?
yt152430- Not likely. It does amazing in the BB-10 stadium, but not so great in Zero-G.
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline - yt152430 - Jun. 02, 2013
Well that depends on what track and tip you use but i think i sawit tested in a zero g but i dont remember what type of zero g stadium
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline - [)ragon - Jun. 03, 2013
Where's genbull for stamina? And duo B
is really the best zero-G anti spin-stealer out there, IMO. I think it should be put in both categories. 
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline - Kei - Jun. 03, 2013
(Jun. 02, 2013 2:32 PM)*Ginga* Wrote: Zero-G Attack (Sway)
MSF/MSF-H Revizer Dragooon SA165 CF/GF/GCF
MSF/MSF-H Girago/Wyvang Dragooon F230 CF/GCF
Why no Wyvang on the first custom? It's heavier, which is important to consider for Sway Attack. Also, I would specify that SA165 should be used in Attack Mode. But that's just my preference. What does everyone else think?
And is MSF/MSF-H Girago/Wyvang Dragooon F230 CF/GCF really Sway Attack? If that is true, why are MF-H Duo Cancer/Aquario/Cygnus F230 CF and MSF/MSF-H Genbull Genbull F230 CF not listed here as well? I'd call them all Stamina combos, personally.
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline - ShinobuXD - Jun. 03, 2013
In my opinion, I would call them balance. They can OS certain things, but still sway KO others.
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline - Yami - Jun. 03, 2013
Honestly I think MSF/MSF-H Girago/Wyvang Dragooon F230 CF/GCF should 'be categorized as balance than sway attack.
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline - *Ginga* - Jun. 03, 2013
(Jun. 03, 2013 6:45 PM)Kei Wrote:(Jun. 02, 2013 2:32 PM)*Ginga* Wrote: Zero-G Attack (Sway)
MSF/MSF-H Revizer Dragooon SA165 CF/GF/GCF
MSF/MSF-H Girago/Wyvang Dragooon F230 CF/GCF
Why no Wyvang on the first custom? It's heavier, which is important to consider for Sway Attack. Also, I would specify that SA165 should be used in Attack Mode. But that's just my preference. What does everyone else think?
And is MSF/MSF-H Girago/Wyvang Dragooon F230 CF/GCF really Sway Attack? If that is true, why are MF-H Duo Cancer/Aquario/Cygnus F230 CF and MSF/MSF-H Genbull Genbull F230 CF not listed here as well? I'd call them all Stamina combos, personally.
I think both modes are fine, I have no personal preference.
You would call them stamina? I would call them something more along the lines of a staller/balance. Hmm, about putting all of those in one category would need discussion IMO.
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline - NEET no Kami - Jun. 05, 2013
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RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline - *Ginga* - Jun. 05, 2013
Yep, no problem.
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline - ShinobuXD - Jun. 11, 2013
Can we get this list up now? I only have two things I'll point out, and I'm assuming everyone else agrees since nobody's posted here in almost a week.
The only things I disagree with are: I think EWD is overrated for spin stealing. IMO, it should be taken off Dragooon.
I also think the Dragooon F230 thing should go under balance, not sway attack or stamina.
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline - diblee123 - Jun. 11, 2013
Anti spin steal
Duo B
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline - *Ginga* - Jun. 11, 2013
(Jun. 11, 2013 7:26 PM)ShinobuXD Wrote: Can we get this list up now? I only have two things I'll point out, and I'm assuming everyone else agrees since nobody's posted here in almost a week.
The only things I disagree with are: I think EWD is overrated for spin stealing. IMO, it should be taken off Dragooon.
I also think the Dragooon F230 thing should go under balance, not sway attack or stamina.
Hmm, OK about EWD. edited.
I think I am going to place all F230CF combos under balance now, with no Anti Spin Steal Section.
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline (updated 6-11!) - ShinobuXD - Jun. 11, 2013
I fully agree with the OP then.
Think we should send it off to an Advanced Member or just post it? Or does anyone object?
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline (updated 6-11!) - *Ginga* - Jun. 11, 2013
I think if I send it off to Kei it will be fine.
Just curious, do you think we should add Wyvang Dragooon SA165 r2F?
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline (updated 6-11!) - ShinobuXD - Jun. 11, 2013
No, I don't. I haven't actually launched it in a Zero-G stadium(too scared to wear my R2F lol)but I have had little to no success with smash in Zero-G, outside of a few select matchups.
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline (updated 6-11!) - diblee123 - Jun. 11, 2013
I disagree on one thing. Anti Spinsteal needs a section.
RE: Zero G DEVELOPMENTAL Top Tier Outline (updated 6-11!) - Yuko Ray14 - Jun. 11, 2013
(Jun. 11, 2013 11:18 PM)diblee123 Wrote: I disagree on one thing. Anti Spinsteal needs a section.
Anti-Spin Steal does not Need a section, you cant name not one "Anti Spin Stealer" that isnt a stamina or balance combo.