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MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 CF (Zero G) - *Ginga* - Oct. 14, 2012

OK, I noticed how well this has done, and so I though it needed to be tested. Here I go.

Oh yeah, I chose MF-M because the threading in the metal core of my metal face is bad, and refuses to screw into Diablo.

Standard Procedure
Zero G Attack Type Stadium
BeyLauncher LR
Hasbro Launcher Grip
Launcher Rubber


MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Upper Mode) CF vs. MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 230 CS
Note: Sway KOs were not redone, as the point of this combo is to sway

Diablo: 10 wins, all KO
Revizer: 10 wins, 9 OS, 1 KO
Win Rate: 50% 
Details (Click to View)
I really think that it had a 50% win rate because of E230's mode. 

MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Lower Mode) CF vs. MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 230 CS

Diablo: 14 wins, 13 KO, 1 OS
Revizer: 6 wins, 3 KO, 3 OS
Win Rate: 70%
Details (Click to View)
I was not surprised about these results. In the other test, I found that E230 was getting in the way of the metal.

MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Lower Mode) CF vs. MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 230 RDF

Diablo: 17 wins, all KO
Revizer: 3 wins, 1 OS, 2 KO
Win Rate: 85%
Details (Click to View)
Basically what happened here is that once Diablo started swaying, RDF went crazy.

MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Lower Mode) CF vs. MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 230 SB Note SB. Check out my thread for it coming soon. Wink

Revizer: 14 wins, 12 OS, 2 KO
Diablo: 6 wins, 2 KO, 4 OS
Win Rate: 30%
Details (Click to View)
MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Lower Mode) CF vs. MF-L Gravity Perseus (Right Spin) AD145 XF
First Ten Rounds Gravity Launched first, second ten Diablo launched first.

Diablo: 11 wins, 1 KO, 10 OS
Gravity: 9 wins, all OS
Win Rate: 55%
Details (Click to View)
As you can see, it really depended on who was launched first. Let's see how it does in Upper Mode ...


MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Upper Mode) CF vs. MF-L Gravity Perseus (Right Spin) AD145 XF
First Ten Rounds Gravity Launched first, second ten Diablo launched first.

Diablo: 16 wins, all OS
Gravity: 4 wins, 3 OS, 1 KO

Details (Click to View)
As you can see, E230 destabilized like CRAZY. Literally, the battles that were Diablo OS were amazing examples of what destabilization is, haha.

MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Upper Mode) CF vs. MF-L Gravity Perseus (Left Spin) AD145 XF
First Ten Rounds Gravity Launched first, second ten Diablo launched first.

Diablo: 10 wins, 5 KO, 3 OS, 2 SKO
Gravity: 10 wins, 9 OS, 1 KO
Diablo Win Rate: 50%

Details (Click to View)
Each battle could have really gone either way.


MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Upper Mode) CF vs. MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 230RS

Diablo: 10 wins, all OS
Revizer: 10 wins, 8 OS, 2 KO
Win Rate: 50%

Details (Click to View)
Hmmm... Kinda disappointed.

MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Upper Mode) CF vs. MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 160SB

Diablo: 6 wins, all OS
Revizer: 14 wins, 9 OS, 5 KO
Win Rate: 30%

Details (Click to View)
Lets see how it does in Lower Mode ...

MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Lower Mode) CF vs. MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 160SB

Diablo: 12 wins, 10 OS, 2 KO
Revizer: 8 wins, all OS
Win Rate: 60%

Details (Click to View)
Interesting ... actually, most of the wins Diablo had were big wins.

Synchrome Comparison (Click to View)
A note on E230's mode in this combo: It should be used in Upper Mode if destabilizing s needed against left spin or Gravity. Lower Mode should be used if destabilizing is not needed/ is not against left spin or Gravity.

So, how is it? Any requests?

RE: MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 CF (Zero G) - One Direction - Oct. 14, 2012

Isn't this a regular Zero-G KO combo? Wouldn't a heavier metal wheel like Reviser Reviser be better than this? Or is this some kind of Zero-G+ Regular Attack hybrid.

Besides that, I don't think what you tested against is top tier at all. 230CS is definitely not a defense track+bottom combo. If i'm not wrong 160SB is for defense and AD145B is Stamina and if you can I think you should test against BD because that seems to be dominating right now. So I think that's what your supposed to be testing against.
Other than that, could you please specify whether it was a Sway KO or a Regular KO in your test results please. It helps everyone understand how your combo is suppesd to work better.

For the tests requests, could you please test against MF L-Drago Destroy GB145XF as I don't have Diablo.
Thanks for the Zero-G testing anyways!



RE: MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 CF (Zero G) - *Ginga* - Oct. 14, 2012

Most of it was SKO, though every once in a while it would hit the opposing bey for a KO.
As for BD, I do not have it, but I battled it and I won most of the time. Basically, if it hits the beyblade with BD, it is a "crushing blow".

I can test against Revizer Saramanda 160SB.
I do not have L Drago Destroy, sadly, but I do have AD145 XF, if that helps.

RE: MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 CF (Zero G) - One Direction - Oct. 14, 2012

(Oct. 14, 2012  1:49 PM)Ginga Blader Wrote: Most of it was SKO, though every once in a while it would hit the opposing bey for a KO.
As for BD, I do not have it, but I battled it and I won most of the time. Basically, if it hits the beyblade with BD, it is a "crushing blow".

I can test against Revizer Saramanda 160SB.
I do not have L Drago Destroy, sadly, but I do have AD145 XF, if that helps.
Maybe L-Drago Guardian? Maybe Gravity? Anyways, have you tried this with GCF? I think it should be better for SKO.



RE: MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 CF (Zero G) - *Ginga* - Oct. 14, 2012

I do have Gravity. No GCF, though.

RE: MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 CF (Zero G) - *Ginga* - Oct. 14, 2012

Edited with tests.

RE: MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 CF (Zero G) - Raigeko13 - Oct. 14, 2012

Got anything you can do some Synchrome comparative tests with? Things such as (2 Chrome Wheels) E230CF against the combos you tested against.

RE: MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 CF (Zero G) - Ultra - Oct. 14, 2012

Is there a reason practically all the combos you tested against are 230CS ones? Never even heard of that being used in the Zero G attack stadium.

RE: MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 CF (Zero G) - BillyBlast - Oct. 14, 2012

It might be just the best Defense Set Up Ginga has, since he is already using E230.

RE: MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 CF (Zero G) - *Ginga* - Oct. 15, 2012

(Oct. 14, 2012  8:09 PM)Raigeko13 Wrote: Got anything you can do some Synchrome comparative tests with? Things such as (2 Chrome Wheels) E230CF against the combos you tested against.
Tommorow I can do Ifraid Ifraid, Ifraid Saramanda, Revizer Ifraid, Revizer Saramanda, and vice versa.

Ultra: Pretty much what Billy said, bit some were against RDF and SB.



RE: MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 CF (Zero G) - *Ginga* - Oct. 15, 2012

Sorry for DP, but ...

New tests for Rai!

Synchrome Comparison (Click to View)


RE: MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 CF (Zero G) - One Direction - Oct. 16, 2012

Nice results. Could you try Gravity on left spin? I'm convinced this will have a positive effect


RE: MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 CF (Zero G) - *Ginga* - Oct. 16, 2012

I will, but I do not have more than one BeyLauncher. I will have to use a Hasbro RipCord Launcher, which will probably skew results.

MAJOR EDIT: If I take the Launcher out I my grip, I can switch the spin direction fast enough, with 100% power.

RE: MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 CF (Zero G) - *Ginga* - Oct. 18, 2012

New tests!

MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Upper Mode) CF vs. MF-L Gravity Perseus (Left Spin) AD145 XF
First Ten Rounds Gravity Launched first, second ten Diablo launched first.

Diablo: 10 wins, 5 KO, 3 OS, 2 SKO
Gravity: 10 wins, 9 OS, 1 KO
Diablo Win Rate: 50%

Details (Click to View)
Each battle could have really gone either way.


MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Upper Mode) CF vs. MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 230RS

Diablo: 10 wins, all OS
Revizer: 10 wins, 8 OS, 2 KO
Win Rate: 50%

Details (Click to View)
Hmmm... Kinda disappointed.










RE: MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 CF (Zero G) - *Ginga* - Oct. 18, 2012

Updated with new tests!


MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Upper Mode) CF vs. MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 160SB

Diablo: 6 wins, all OS
Revizer: 14 wins, 9 OS, 5 KO
Win Rate: 30%

Details (Click to View)
Lets see how it does in Lower Mode ...

MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 (Lower Mode) CF vs. MSF-H Revizer Saramanda 160SB

Diablo: 12 wins, 10 OS, 2 KO
Revizer: 8 wins, all OS
Win Rate: 60%

Details (Click to View)
Interesting ... actually, most of the wins Diablo had were big wins.




Couple Notes:
1. 160SB is good against sway, but it has no defense against smash. Those KOs in the first test were Diablo's recoil.

2. A note on E230's mode in this combo: It should be used in Upper Mode if destabilizing s needed against left spin or Gravity. Lower Mode should be used if destabilizing is not needed/ is not against left spin or Gravity.


RE: MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 CF (Zero G) - UltimateFantasy - Oct. 23, 2012

Would you like for me to do a CF vs GCF for this combo? I can do either MF or a regular face for Diablo and for the Defense type, I can do Revizer, Saramanda, or Orojya (I only have one of each) with a MSF and 160SB.
Should I?

RE: MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 CF (Zero G) - *Ginga* - Oct. 25, 2012

Sorry I didn't see your post.
Yes, that would be nice, though my guess is that CF would do better, as it would not be grinded away.

RE: MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 CF (Zero G) - UltimateFantasy - Oct. 25, 2012

Perfect! I just finished the testing and will post it (although not in here because I will also do more testing with different combos).

RE: MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 CF (Zero G) - *Ginga* - Oct. 25, 2012

I would prefer it if you did post it here, to be easier to understand. I hope you understand. Smile

RE: MF-M Diablo Kerbecs E230 CF (Zero G) - UltimateFantasy - Oct. 25, 2012

I will provide a link to my testing as it will take up A LOT of space.